McD's press conference 11:00 am today

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Links will be provided on:

http://www.9news.com/
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html
http://www.fm1043thefan.com/

[getlynched47]

Can wait to hear what McDipShit has to say :rolleyes:

"I was just kidding when I said that Jay Cutler was our Quarterback 100 times"

[Den21vsBal19]

That about an hour or so?

Thanks for the links

[lex]

More lies. I cant wait.

[Northman]

I wonder if he's going to talk about the Jay trade.





































lol

[getlynched47]

I wonder if he's going to talk about the Jay trade.

lol

What Jay trade? I thought McDaniels said that Cutler was his Quarterback and that he would be the starter at the beginning of the NFL season? :coffee:

[slim]

What Jay trade? I thought McDaniels said that Cutler was his Quarterback and that he would be the starter at the beginning of the NFL season? :coffee:

We get it. You are unhappy about the trade.

Move along.

[Northman]

What Jay trade? I thought McDaniels said that Cutler was his Quarterback and that he would be the starter at the beginning of the NFL season? :coffee:


Would have been except his Qb decided he didnt want to be here and forced the trade. :coffee::D

[getlynched47]

Would have been except his Qb decided he didnt want to be here and forced the trade. :coffee::D

I wonder why his Quarterback got mad in the first place? :coffee: :D

[getlynched47]

We get it. You are unhappy about the trade.

Move along.

I'm going to have fun with this as long as I possibly can slim :salute:

[lex]

We get it. You are unhappy about the trade.

Move along.

You really need to accept the fact that people arent going to forget about what happened anytime soon.

[weazel]

Can wait to hear what McDipShit has to say :rolleyes:

"I was just kidding when I said that Jay Cutler was our Quarterback 100 times"

or maybe, "I thought Jay was our quarterback, but apparently he didnt think enough of his team or teammates to answer our phone calls."

[getlynched47]

or maybe, "I thought Jay was our quarterback, but apparently he didnt think enough of his team or teammates to answer our phone calls."

How about, "I think I should've tried out for the movie Liar-Liar because I'm one of the best at it. I even got my boss to fall for it! What a stupid old fool..."

[weazel]

How about, "I think I should've tried out for the movie Liar-Liar because I'm one of the best at it. I even got my boss to fall for it! What a stupid old fool..."

your boy didnt want to play here and didnt even reply to his own teammates when they tried to call him, let alone his boss. Your boy proved he was a child and you cant get over it.

[Northman]

I wonder why his Quarterback got mad in the first place? :coffee: :D

Doesnt matter, in the end it was the QB who wanted to be traded. Two wrongs dont make a right.

[getlynched47]

your boy didnt want to play here and didnt even reply to his own etammates when they tried to call him, let alone his boss. Your boy proved he was a child and you cant get over it.

Your boy started this entire soap opera when he tried to get his girlfriend, Matt Cassel, here in Denver. We had Cutler, wanted Cassel, ended up with Orton. Talk about a downgrade :coffee:

[getlynched47]

Doesnt matter, in the end it was the QB who wanted to be traded. Two wrongs dont make a right.

I never said what Jay Cutler did was right, but McDaniels isnt innocent either. Of course it matters who started it......

[weazel]

Your boy started this entire soap opera when he tried to get his girlfriend, Matt Cassel, here in Denver. We had Cutler, wanted Cassel, ended up with Orton. Talk about a downgrade :coffee:

my boy? I never agreed with McDaniiels. I never said either was in the right, I just think Cutler took it too far and acted childish. Please understand my point before you try to argue with me.

[getlynched47]

my boy? I never agreed with McDaniiels. I never said either was in the right, I just think Cutler took it too far and acted childish. Please understand my point before you try to argue with me.

I do understand your point, but you are clearly a McDaniels supporter. Nothing wrong with that, but don't make it sound like McDaniels never did anything wrong. Was it in the best interest of the team to get rid of Cutler? No it wasnt, but it was in McDaniels best interest to get rid of Cutler...

[MOtorboat]

I do understand your point, but you are clearly a McDaniels supporter. Nothing wrong with that, but don't make it sound like McDaniels never did anything wrong. Was it in the best interest of the team to get rid of Cutler? No it wasnt, but it was in McDaniels best interest to get rid of Cutler...

We just don't know that yet...that's the point.

[weazel]

I do understand your point, but you are clearly a McDaniels supporter. Nothing wrong with that, but don't make it sound like McDaniels never did anything wrong. Was it in the best interest of the team to get rid of Cutler? No it wasnt, but it was in McDaniels best interest to get rid of Cutler...

no you obviously dont see my point. I'm not saying McDaniels didnt do anythign wrong. I am saying Cutler took it too far, and he has to grow up. Kid's a punk.

[getlynched47]

We just don't know that yet...that's the point.

How can you believe that our team is better without a pro bowl Quarterback under center with all the physical tools any QB could only hope for? We downgraded at the position.....expect an drop off in offensive production. It's really that simple...

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I am so proud of cousin Josh! YOU TELL 'EM THE WORD JOSH!

[slim]

How can you believe that our team is better without a pro bowl Quarterback under center with all the physical tools any QB could only hope for? We downgraded at the position.....expect an drop off in offensive production. It's really that simple...

The bears scored more points last year than the Broncos. They did that with Orton at QB and limited offensive weapons. Just so you know.

[Northman]

I never said what Jay Cutler did was right, but McDaniels isnt innocent either. Of course it matters who started it......

No it doesnt. Thats childish man, seriously. McD screwed the pooch early but was trying to rectify the situation. But instead of trying to work with McD Jay decided he wanted out of town and decided he wasnt going to answer phone calls. The reason why Jay Culter isnt here now is because of Jay Cutler. He's a big boy but acted like a 12 year old and took his toys and went elsewhere. Holding that much of grudge over something so trivial is extremely weak. I may end up missing his talent but i dont miss his childish antics anymore.

[weazel]

The bears scored more points last year than the Broncos. They did that with Orton at QB and limited offensive weapons. Just so you know.

oh no you di'nt!

you just blew lynched's mind

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Links will be provided on:

http://www.9news.com/
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html
http://www.fm1043thefan.com/

Also will be carried on Mania.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=7557

[ambiguous]

The bears scored more points last year than the Broncos. They did that with Orton at QB and limited offensive weapons. Just so you know.

They had a competent defense that created turnovers, allowed the offense to control the clock, and could actually get off the field. Let alone not constantly force the offense in to 'catch up' mode.

If you think the Bears offense was autonomously better than the Broncos you must be high.

[roomemp]

How can you believe that our team is better without a pro bowl Quarterback under center with all the physical tools any QB could only hope for? We downgraded at the position.....expect an drop off in offensive production. It's really that simple...

Cutler was 17-20 as a starter. Anyway you skew that, he had a losing record as a starter.

[weazel]

They had a competent defense that created turnovers, allowed the offense to control the clock, and could actually get off the field. Let alone not constantly force the offense in to 'catch up' mode.

If you think the Bears offense was autonomously better than the Broncos you must be high.

I dont think their offense was great, but then again, neither was their defense

[roomemp]

How can you believe that our team is better without a pro bowl Quarterback under center with all the physical tools any QB could only hope for? We downgraded at the position.....expect an drop off in offensive production. It's really that simple...


Yeah our Offense racked up yards but we were still a middle of the road team when it came to scoring

[Watchthemiddle]

I wonder why his Quarterback got mad in the first place? :coffee: :D

Because he is a baby and can't handle this business.

[roomemp]

Because he is a baby and can't handle this business.

Yeah Shanny must have accidentally packed up Jay's baby blanket when he cleared out his office

[Watchthemiddle]

How can you believe that our team is better without a pro bowl Quarterback under center with all the physical tools any QB could only hope for? We downgraded at the position.....expect an drop off in offensive production. It's really that simple...

If we become on overall well rounded better team because of it...which is what is going to happen, then who wouldn't be happy about his trade?

Cutler can now go put up huge numbers between the 20's and we can now put up actual points instead of stats.

[roomemp]

If we become on overall well rounded better team because of it...which is what is going to happen, then who wouldn't be happy about his trade?

Cutler can now go put up huge numbers between the 20's and we can now put up actual points instead of stats.

That says it all right there

[TXBRONC]

If we become on overall well rounded better team because of it...which is what is going to happen, then who wouldn't be happy about his trade?

Cutler can now go put up huge numbers between the 20's and we can now put up actual points instead of stats.


That remains to be see.

[Nomad]

Also will be carried on Mania.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=7557

Thanks a bunch! This link will actually work for me!

[shank]

why do they always start late?

[sneakers]

So is it on right now?

[sneakers]

So is it on right now?

nevermind....i guess it is

[Requiem / The Dagda]

It sure is, Josh McDaniels is taking after Mr. Bill and wearing a hoodie.

[sneakers]

I like his sweatshirt....hopefully the sleaves are not cut off.

[slim]

They had a competent defense that created turnovers, allowed the offense to control the clock, and could actually get off the field. Let alone not constantly force the offense in to 'catch up' mode.

If you think the Bears offense was autonomously better than the Broncos you must be high.

I didn't say the bears offense was better. The point is Orton is a capable QB.

[underrated29]

If we become on overall well rounded better team because of it...which is what is going to happen, then who wouldn't be happy about his trade?

Cutler can now go put up huge numbers between the 20's and we can now put up actual points instead of stats.



That is not a given....We would have had no problem putting up points had we had a run game. Someone to pound the rock in the endzone inside the 10 yardline. Every person we had to do that-pittman,torain and hillis all got hurt. No other RB on our roster was capable of it.

This year it might change, but only because we are going to have stud RB. If we still had jay i think our offense would be even better, but i think orton will do fine as long as we get a RB!

[BigAL56]

I'm listening right now. I still find it annoying he is calling Jay the "player"

[DenverBronkHoes]

What a scumbag........

mcDaniels you **EDIT *****... u cant coach a good QB... u go with this ******* hack bullshit system quarterback !!!

im loving watching him get eaten up...

******* scumbagg

[slim]

I'm listening right now. I still find it annoying he is calling Jay the "player"

I agree. I think he should call him the "bitch"

[weazel]

I'm listening right now. I still find it annoying he is calling Jay the "player"

I disagree with the poster

[weazel]

What a scumbag........

mcDaniels you ****** *****... u cant coach a good QB... u go with this ******* hack bullshit system quarterback !!!

im loving watching him get eaten up...

******** scumbagg

eaten up? he is handling it great. Doing it diplomatically as well, has done nothing but say good things about "the player".

[DenverBronkHoes]

eaten up? he is handling it great. Doing it diplomatically as well, has done nothing but say good things about "the player".

i disagree with the poster

[Denver Native (Carol)]

One of the key points is when McD was ask as to why he and Jay did not sit down together, and McD's response was that we could not do that without Bus Cook

[Rex]

What a scumbag........

mcDaniels you ***** *****... u cant coach a good QB... u go with this ******* hack bullshit system quarterback !!!

im loving watching him get eaten up...

******* scumbagg

Awesome post you freakin dirtbag.

[weazel]

What do you care what I think anyway? I don't even count... Right? I could disappear forever and it wouldn't make any difference. I might as well not even exist on this board, remember?

I agree

[DenverBronkHoes]

Awesome post you freakin dirtbag.

yea... i guess im not happy about losing Cutty.... i think we raped the bears tho....

[DenverBronkHoes]

I agree

agreed

[DenverBronkHoes]

One of the key points is when McD was ask as to why he and Jay did not sit down together, and McD's response was that we could not do that without Bus Cook

lets let McNipples convince us it was all Bus and Jay's faults...


he'll be fired in 2 years....

[TXBRONC]

eaten up? he is handling it great. Doing it diplomatically as well, has done nothing but say good things about "the player".

I thought McDaniels handled himself very well.

[DenverBronkHoes]

I thought McDaniels handled himself very well.

he did.... i still hate him right now.... til he shows me something i will continue to... I dont think he goes 2 years, but thats my opinion

[CoachChaz]

He complimented Jay...he reiterated the story that there was never a trade in place to start this whole mess...and stated he could never talk to Jay one on one because Cook would always be there.

I guess I find it harder and harder to see where he screwed up so badly.

[Broncolingus]

McD's press conference was fine...

...other than the lip-licking/smacking and excessive use of "pro" words (production, produce, prepare, etc.)

[Rex]

He complimented Jay...he reiterated the story that there was never a trade in place to start this whole mess...and stated he could never talk to Jay one on one because Cook would always be there.

I guess I find it harder and harder to see where he screwed up so badly.

Coach, I said it in another thread:

I wonder if Jake Peavy did this when the Padres tried to trade him 100 times in the off season?

Oh, yeah....he didnt.

BTW, he is still on the block but will be showing up for work on Monday.

[weazel]

Cutler is weak minded...

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Just heard that Jay will be holding a live press conference at 2:00 MDT - and for sure, it will be carried on the following:

http://www.2thedeuce.com/

Sorry - I am not sure if they said 2 or 4. Will try to update later if I hear something again.

[slim]

McD's press conference was fine...

...other than the lip-licking/smacking and excessive use of "pro" words (production, produce, prepare, etc.)

I think you mean propare :welcome:

[TXBRONC]

he did.... i still hate him right now.... til he shows me something i will continue to... I dont think he goes 2 years, but thats my opinion

I do hope he'll be able to last longer than, but as I've said before I think he will about three years.

[weazel]

Just heard that Jay will be holding a live press conference at 2:00 MDT - and for sure, it will be carried on the following:

http://www.2thedeuce.com/

will he be live at a monster truck race?

[Broncolingus]

I think you mean propare :welcome:

Pro - Pre...

220 - 221...

...whatever it takes.

[slim]

Just heard that Jay will be holding a live press conference at 2:00 MDT - and for sure, it will be carried on the following:

http://www.2thedeuce.com/

Sorry - I am not sure if they said 2 or 4. Will try to update later if I hear something again.

LMAO...his presser is being streamed on 2theduece?

WTF is that, a gay porn site?

[turftoad]

He complimented Jay...he reiterated the story that there was never a trade in place to start this whole mess...and stated he could never talk to Jay one on one because Cook would always be there.

I guess I find it harder and harder to see where he screwed up so badly.

It'll be intersting to hear what Jay has to say.

[D1g1tal j1m]

McD need some coaching on his speech giving, but I'm sure that will come with more experience. He did fine otherwise.

Nothing earth shattering and no real mud flinging. So all in all, it was a successful conference from the Broncos perspective. McD didn't add anymore fuel to the fire.

[D1g1tal j1m]

It'll be intersting to hear what Jay has to say.

You will probably hear from Bus Cook before you hear from Jay.

[Zweems56]

LMAO...his presser is being streamed on 2theduece?

WTF is that, a gay porn site?

gay porn site....? or GAYEST porn site!?

[Broncolingus]

LMAO...his presser is being streamed on 2theduece?

WTF is that, a gay porn site?

Best post ever...

[claymore]

I could care less what jay has to say.

[Nomad]

It'll be intersting to hear what Jay has to say.

He's excited to be a BEAR and something he's always dreamed of, thanks Mr. Bowlen! And he's looking forward to staring down Devon Hester. just kidding!


I'm sure he'll say all the right things.

[weazel]

I could care less what jay has to say.

now your coming around

[Broncolingus]

It'll be intersting to hear what Jay has to say.

...yawn...

[Nomad]

I could care less what jay has to say.

Why is that, you were one of his main advocates!!

[CoachChaz]

It'll be intersting to hear what Jay has to say.

No doubt. It'll end up being more he said/she said crap, but if he reiterates that he "never wanted a trade" again...his credibility is gone

[claymore]

Why is that, you were one of his main advocates!!

I wanted him here over McDaniels, but thats not what happened. I hope he does well, but he is a bear now, and I could care less.

Overall Im sick of the drama, and Im just looking forward to the draft.

[Nomad]

I wanted him here over McDaniels, but thats not what happened. I hope he does well, but he is a bear now, and I could care less.

Overall Im sick of the drama, and Im just looking forward to the draft.

QFT! Now, it will a good weekend to have a few beers!:beer:

[honz]

Anybody know where one could find a transcript of the presser? TIA

[Nick]

4/3/09

Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



Pat Bowlen

[Shazam!]

Anybody know where one could find a transcript of the presser? TIA

Right, please post it here!

[TXBRONC]

Right, please post it here!

Eventhough it might seem like a waste of bandwidth I hope it gets it's thread at least for a little while.

[getlynched47]

If we become on overall well rounded better team because of it...which is what is going to happen, then who wouldn't be happy about his trade?

Cutler can now go put up huge numbers between the 20's and we can now put up actual points instead of stats.

We have no idea how McDaniels and Xanders will draft. For all we know, they'll use those picks to move up and get Sanchez (which would only lead me to believe even more how stupid McDaniels is). We have no way of knowing how good or poor of talent evaluators that Xanders and McDipShit are.......so don't be to sure about that

[getlynched47]

Cutler is weak minded...

McDaniels is a bitch. If we had a competent front office (including the head coach), this issue would've been resolved a long time ago.

[getlynched47]

I like his sweatshirt....hopefully the sleaves are not cut off.

McDaniels can grab that hoodie and shove it up his ***

[Tempus Fugit]

McDaniels can grab that hoodie and shove it up his ***

You really should try taking a rational approach to this.

[getlynched47]

You really should try taking a rational approach to this.

I'm hoping for the best, but we have NO CLUE how McDaniels and Xanders are when it comes to talent evaluation. For all we know, they can screw up with those three draft picks we got :eek: that would be a massive, epic fail.

I hope we do well this year, but I'm not holding my breath on it.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Just heard that Jay will be holding a live press conference at 2:00 MDT - and for sure, it will be carried on the following:

http://www.2thedeuce.com/

Sorry - I am not sure if they said 2 or 4. Will try to update later if I hear something again.

According to the Chicago Bears website, it will be at 5:00 CST.

http://www.chicagobears.com/index.html

[weazel]

McDaniels is a bitch. If we had a competent front office (including the head coach), this issue would've been resolved a long time ago.

:Cry:

[weazel]

McDaniels can grab that hoodie and shove it up his ***

:Cry:

[MOtorboat]

According to the Chicago Bears website, it will be at 5:00 CST.

http://www.chicagobears.com/index.html

Well, damn...I'll be having a cocktail with my coworkers right around that time, and I'm just gonna have to miss that. Aw shucks.


:Cry:

Unless GL is whining about something else, he must have missed the trade yesterday. I believe it did take care of the situation.

[BroncoWave]

Diggin the hoodie! McHoodieJr. I like it! :D

[bcbronc]

McDaniels is a bitch. If we had a competent front office (including the head coach), this issue would've been resolved a long time ago.

the situation is resolved.

which reminds me, why are you rocking a sig with the Bears' QB in it? I thought you claimed you were a Broncos fan?

:coffee:

[getlynched47]

the situation is resolved.

which reminds me, why are you rocking a sig with the Bears' QB in it? I thought you claimed you were a Broncos fan?

:coffee:

I'm not going to get into this again. I'm a Denver Broncos fan and a Jay Cutler fan (NOT a Bears fan), I would love to see Cutler have success as long as it isnt against us.

[Hawgdriver]

One of the key points is when McD was ask as to why he and Jay did not sit down together, and McD's response was that we could not do that without Bus Cook

That's all I needed to hear to confirm a certain theory. Go Broncos!

[CoachChaz]

Personally, I hope Cutler falls on his face. Mostly because I want the Bears to have a high draft pick in 2010, but also because he's an idiot that lied to the FANS

[tomjonesrocks]

I'm hoping for the best, but we have NO CLUE how McDaniels and Xanders are when it comes to talent evaluation. For all we know, they can screw up with those three draft picks we got :eek: that would be a massive, epic fail.

I hope we do well this year, but I'm not holding my breath on it.

The problem is those firsts are late. These will not be impact players. So we'll probably be hearing for a decade about what poor value we got for Cutler, just as the Colts had to listen to what poor value they got for Elway for his entire career. The team will be extremely fortunate to even get one pro-bowler out of this.

Twice in recent years we've traded away the best and most dynamic player on the team. That's no way to run a franchise--but at least last time we got a Hall of Famer in return. This time? Good luck.

[CoachChaz]

The problem is those firsts are late. These will not be impact players. So we'll probably be hearing for a decade about what poor value we got for Cutler, just as the Colts had to listen to what poor value they got for Elway for his entire career. The team will be extremely fortunate to even get one pro-bowler out of this.

Twice in recent years we've traded away the best and most dynamic player on the team. That's no way to run a franchise--but at least last time we got a Hall of Famer in return. This time? Good luck.

#12 and #18 out of 32 is late?

[Watchthemiddle]

The problem is those firsts are late. These will not be impact players. So we'll probably be hearing for a decade about what poor value we got for Cutler, just as the Colts had to listen to what poor value they got for Elway for his entire career. The team will be extremely fortunate to even get one pro-bowler out of this.

Twice in recent years we've traded away the best and most dynamic player on the team. That's no way to run a franchise--but at least last time we got a Hall of Famer in return. This time? Good luck.

So I guess we drafted Cutler "late" in the first. :rolleyes:

[Tempus Fugit]

The problem is those firsts are late. These will not be impact players. So we'll probably be hearing for a decade about what poor value we got for Cutler, just as the Colts had to listen to what poor value they got for Elway for his entire career. The team will be extremely fortunate to even get one pro-bowler out of this.

Twice in recent years we've traded away the best and most dynamic player on the team. That's no way to run a franchise--but at least last time we got a Hall of Famer in return. This time? Good luck.

#12 and #18 since 2004:

J. Vilma/W. Smith
S. Merriman/E. James
H. Ngata/B. Carpenter
M. Lynch/L. Hall
R. Clady/J. Flacco

[MOtorboat]

#12 and #18 since 2004:

J. Vilma/W. Smith
S. Merriman/E. James
H. Ngata/B. Carpenter
M. Lynch/L. Hall
R. Clady/J. Flacco

Those guys are worthless :rolleyes:

[weazel]

#12 and #18 since 2004:

J. Vilma/W. Smith
S. Merriman/E. James
H. Ngata/B. Carpenter
M. Lynch/L. Hall
R. Clady/J. Flacco


nice, I'll take them all!

[weazel]

#12 and #18 since 2004:

J. Vilma/W. Smith
S. Merriman/E. James
H. Ngata/B. Carpenter
M. Lynch/L. Hall
R. Clady/J. Flacco

that almost deserves its own thread, buddy

[Watchthemiddle]

I haven't been this excited for the draft in a long time.

[Broncolingus]

I haven't been this excited for the draft in a long time.

Great avvy, WTM...

LMAO...

[Tempus Fugit]

Those guys are worthless :rolleyes:

It's been absolutely fascinating to watch as the Cutler supporters have moved the goalposts of their arguments time and again rather than just conceding that they were probably wrong in their initial takes on things. I know it's part of the human condition, but it's always interesting to me.


Cutler formally requested a trade and then claimed he didn't want to get traded?

McDaniels' fault because he's a liar!


Cutler didn't return the call his own agent admits he made to him, nevermind the other attempts that aren't admitted?

McDaniels won't communicate!


Cutler won't sit down with McDaniels unless Short Bus Cook is there?

McDaniels was incompetent and could have put a stop to all this!


The Broncos got 2 first round picks, a starting QB and a third round pick for Cutler and a fifth rounder when another thread pointed out that Kirwan thought Cutler was worth 2 picks and a player?

The front office is incompetent because it didn't get enough!


You can't normally buy this kind of quality entertainment.

[weazel]

its like watchign a bad stand up comic crash and burn

[LawDog]

Pat wrote his letter, Josh had his presser.

I don't want to hear another word out of either of them unless it is the following:

Bowlen: "This one's for you Josh."

McDaniels: "Thank you Mr. Bowlen, I appreciate your trust, confidence and checkbook."

Until then, just shaddup for a while. I don't like my team getting this much attention in the offseason.

[MOtorboat]

Pat wrote his letter, Josh had his presser.

I don't want to hear another word out of either of them unless it is the following:

Bowlen: "This one's for you Josh."

McDaniels: "Thank you Mr. Bowlen, I appreciate your trust, confidence and checkbook."

Until then, just shaddup for a while. I don't like my team getting this much attention in the offseason.

Too bad its just a few more weeks until the draft then, huh...

[LawDog]

Too bad its just a few more weeks until the draft then, huh...

Oh, the draft will just be another bunch of blah, blah, blah. Either we trade up and take Sanchez and then a bunch of lower round, probably average defensive players, or we play our current hand and take a bunch of higher round defensive players. Both sides will be pointing fingers saying we can't win without a QB or we can't win without a defense. Unfortunately, both will probably be right. Like I said, I'm happiest when the Broncos largely fly under the radar in the offseason.

[ktrain]

You really need to accept the fact that people arent going to forget about what happened anytime soon.

If by people, you mean "you" then who the **** cares.....why don't you just move along mr negative

[FanInAZ]

There is no question that Bus Cook is the circus conducter in Jay's camp. Remember, he is an agent and is therefore no differant then a lawer. It is his job to tell Jay when he is to speak and to put the words into his mouth when the time comes. Expect Jay to be reading from a preprepared statement with Bus standing next to him. Bus will then step in front of Jay to field all questions. If Jay actually does say something after this point, it will be preceeded by Bus wispering something into his hear. Other then that, Jay will do nothing more then nod his head in agreement with anything and everything that Bus says. It will be like watching a rerun of TO's press conferance "appologizing" to the Eagles.

[honz]

Here's the transcript: http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8934


Opening statement:
"I appreciate everybody being here today. I want to first say that I thank you all for your patience in dealing with this situation. I know it hasn't been easy for all of you trying to get information from us and it hasn't been easy for us to deal with it either. We wanted to try to do it privately, obviously, and try to keep much of this stuff to ourselves as we tried to resolve the situation. Again, I thank you for your patience throughout the whole process.

"As (President & CEO) Pat Bowlen alluded to in his statement Tuesday night, we just felt as an organization that we got to a point where it was made very clear to us that we were not going to be able to get to a resolution where Jay Cutler could be on our football team. At that point we opened it up and let the league know that we would have an interest in trading the player. Yesterday with the Chicago Bears, [we] kind of culminated the process with a deal we felt was best for our football team going forward.

"We are very excited about the opportunity that we have now and [we] are looking forward to moving on, improving and working towards the 2009 season."

On whether there were any regrets:
"No. I think it could have worked out as I mentioned a week ago. It was going to require a two-way commitment and as Pat said, I think that it was clear to us that there wasn't going to be a two-way commitment. We have talked about doing everything we can do to help our football team improve. That's how this started and we are going to continue to do that."

On how the communication broke down:
"Like I said, it became obvious that it wasn't going to be resolved the way that we were trying to resolve it. We were committed to trying to do that and I think at the point where it became apparent and clear that it was not going to work out the mindset was kind of: What are we waiting for? Pat released the statement on Tuesday night and we made a decision to move on."

On where he would put the blame:
"I don't know where the blame lies or if there is blame. Obviously it was a situation where communication became an issue and at that point it started to get progressively worse. But I understand the player's mindset. I understand that he wasn't happy with what had happened or transpired, but we dealt with the situation straightforward [and] we were upfront with him. There are many things, obviously, that have come out about this whole process and the way that it worked out. Like I said, no regrets of the whole situation other than we could have communicated the thing that we were attempting to fix the way we were attempting to fix it."

On how he would describe his first 90-plus days on the job:
"It's been kind of a whirlwind. It's exciting and it's challenging. This is the National Football League and I understand that. It's a production business [and] it's all about winning. In a word, we are trying to make every decision we can that's in the best interest of our team and that we feel is going to help us do that. There are tough decisions to make and there are some easy ones. There are a lot more difficult decisions you have to make on a daily basis. If you are afraid to make those decisions then you shouldn't do this-you should be in this line of work. We are looking forward to moving on with our team and like I said, we're excited about what the team has done so far. The players are all here working extremely hard. We love what we see from them in their attitude, their approach and the way they are trying to improve. We are looking forward to getting on to football."

On whether QB Kyle Orton fits his "mold":
"There is no mold, I wouldn't say that. That's not what this is about. Kyle Orton is a player that I've watched and that I've seen and had an opportunity to study some obviously through this process and before. Kyle Orton has won in this league. He's tough, he's smart, he makes good decisions, he's accurate with the football and we're excited about having him on this team. I don't have a mold. There is not a precise 'here is what the guy has to look like.' Tom Brady didn't look anything like Matt Cassel and Matt Cassel doesn't look anything like Kyle Orton. It's a guy that can do what we want him to do, understand and process our offense, help our team win, make smart decisions and get the ball to the people that we want to do things with it. There is no special person or special guy that has to fit into it. There are a lot of players that can fit into it."

On whether there will be a quarterback competition:
"Everybody is going to compete, yes. Everybody is going to compete. Every position is going to be like that. Kyle is going to come in here and we had a good conversation yesterday. He is excited to get to work and help our team compete and help our team win. That's what he wants to do and we are looking forward to having a player like that."

On whether he has addressed the team:
"We had a team meeting yesterday, not after the fact but before it. We addressed that and told them all at a team meeting that we were moving forward, we were going to make a decision soon and once we made that decision we weren't going to look back."

On the amount of flexibility Denver has in the draft with the acquired picks, whether it will be a defensive draft and whether Denver will consider drafting a quarterback:
"It gives us a lot of flexibility. It's something that as a football coach going into the draft, the more you have, the better off you are because you can maneuver to get some players that you really feel good about and [we] have the ammunition to do some of those things. As far as it being a defensive or offensive draft, it's going to be the best players at a position that we need players at that can help our team win. I wouldn't say that it's going to be one way or the other. As far as a quarterback is concerned, we are evaluating all of those players just the same. If one of those players-whoever they may be, whenever it may be-is somebody that we would like to have on this team then we would consider drafting a quarterback."

On whether QB Kyle Orton's inclusion in the trade put Chicago over the top:
"I think the fact that you are giving up a quarterback and you get a quarterback that has been productive and has won in this league, it's never a bad thing. When you are considering what to do and what is the right decision to make, he certainly weighed into that. That was somewhat of a factor in this deal."

On what he likes about QB Chris Simms:
"Chris is in many ways similar to what I just described about the kind of guy we are looking for. He is tough [and] he's smart. He's already knee deep in the offense right now and learning more every day. He met with us this morning. Chris is bright, he can get the ball to the people we want him to get it to and he will have an opportunity to compete for that spot."

On if there was anything he would have done differently:
"That's frustrating to me because the situation as it played out, there was communication that morning and I think there has been this speculation that everybody is withholding information. There was a conversation earlier that morning and then no communication for quite a long time. In terms of being forthcoming, I don' t know what else we would do. We called the player, we spoke to him and his agent before anything had ever happened and that's kind of where it stood from our point. We couldn't go forward from it because there was no communication from that point forward. I would never use that word that we would do anything over because we tried to do that and we never could get to the point where there was effective communication.

"Like I said, we were doing something at that point in time-35 days ago or whatever it is-to try to take a look at something that may or may not improve the team. There was no decision made, so we didn't get to a point where we were doing anything. We didn't get to a point where we were going to take anything to Pat Bowlen and say 'here is what we think we should do.' At that point everything obviously went forward with Kansas City and it's done, so like I said, that's the end of all of it."

On if Jay Cutler was not "his guy":
"No. He could have played in this offense and done very well."

On clarifications of the communication gaps:
"There were multiple periods where there was very little communication."

On whether he considered flying out to see Cutler:
"No. I think, like I said, it's a two-way commitment. If you're going to do something then it has to be done where both people are trying to get to the same resolution. For the majority of this process that is not the way it was."

On whether he had an opportunity to meet one-on-one with Cutler:
"Impossible. Bus Cook (Cutler's agent) was going to be there. We would have loved to do it."

On whether Bus Cook was the problem:
"No idea. This wasn't about a contract, so I have no idea if Bus Cook was the problem or not."

On his relationship with Cutler up until the point where it went wrong:
"We had multiple meetings. The player is very smart, very bright. I could see that right away. There was never any reason to think otherwise. We met on a number of occasions and he was coming in here and working with [Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks] Coach [Matt] McCoy. Again, he is going to be a good player. He is going to be a good player in Chicago now. There were no reservations about anything that I had noticed or I had witnessed in our conversations. We had good conversations and good meetings."

On whether he was surprised that the situation grew to the point where Cutler needed to be traded:
"No. Like I said, It was going to require two people to want the same resolution and to me that's kind of where it fell through."

On when he realized that the situation was not going to be resolved with Cutler staying in Denver:
"I think for Pat and I, and [General Manager] Brian [Xanders], in the last four or five days obviously it was becoming more clear and it culminated with Pat's statement on Tuesday night."

[honz]

continued...

On his evaluation of Jay Cutler:
"He is very talented and he can do a lot of things. He is very smart. I didn't get an opportunity to coach the player on the field, so just in terms of watching him on film he obviously can do a lot of things and he does a lot of things well. The way I feel about quarterbacks is that his job is to score touchdowns and win games. Jay Cutler is capable of doing that and there are a lot of quarterbacks who are capable of doing that. He is very talented, he obviously he has a strong arm, he is very accurate and he has done a lot of things so far in this league. So yes, he is a good player.

"He is a very talented player, but I will also say this: you are distinguished by getting to the playoffs and winning a lot of games. I think that's how you set yourself apart from other players in this league at any position. Is it a step down athletically? I don't know. You can say what you want to say about that. Is his arm stronger than Kyle's or Chris'? Yes it is. But can you win with anyone else. Sure you can. Like I said, what matters to me is that you have players at every position that we can win with, compete with and be successful with. That is what we are working hard to do every day."

On his challenge in finding impact players in the NFL Draft:
"I think you feel that way every year no matter how many first rounders you have. You would love to hit on every pick. We are hoping to hit on the fourth rounders and the sixth rounders. I think there is pressure on you always to select the right players for your team and that's what we're hoping to do. We have a very specific system that we are going to implement offensively and the same thing on defense. We are looking at trying to add players at whatever position that may be that can fit in and help us win right away. We are not going to draft anybody that we hope four years from now is going to make a contribution. Everybody that we draft is going to have a specific grade on them that we feel like fits our team perfectly and gives us an opportunity to improve at every selection."

On whether there is a chance to come out of the draft as a more balanced football team:
"That's going to be the goal all the time-to try to be as good defensively as you are offensively and vice versa. I would say from the first moment I landed in Denver though that our goal is to improve the team. We have significant improvement to do on both sides of the ball and the kicking game. We can sit here and talk about statistics a lot. But we have improvement to do on offense, we have improvement to do on defense and we can certainly improve ourselves in the kicking game. There are a lot of areas that we are going to try to address and-in the next two years, with the extra selection we have in the first round [in 2010]-I think that helps give us some ammunition to do that."

On the status of WR Brandon Marshall:
"Brandon is doing fine. We are not going to discuss details of anything with Brandon, but he is doing fine. That will be handled with the league if there is anything to be done with it. The charges were dropped and we are just kind of waiting to see if there is anything that the league feels is necessary.

"He is going to do everything he can every day to improve and when he's ready he will be out there."

On why he concentrated on the secondary in free agency:
"You are always looking for a player at any position that can give you the right value. We evaluated every player in free agency. We went through that process and just felt like that was going to give us the best opportunity to add players that could help us quickly. You always kind of look at free agency and the draft kind of hand in hand. If you feel like you have a chance to do something in the secondary or at receiver in free agency and maybe focus on another area in the draft then that's something that you take into consideration. We just felt good about [CB] Andre' Goodman, [S] Renaldo Hill and [S] Brian Dawkins obviously and felt like they were going to come in and help impact our team right away.

"You would like to have some experience there at those positions but at the same time stay young. It's an oxymoron, but they all can play, they have years left in all of them and we are looking forward to having that group get together here and start working together at this first minicamp in April. We expect them to play well."

On the last time he spoke to Jay Cutler:
"The face-to-face meeting."

On whether he should have waiting longer to resolve the communication issues:
"We were trying to do that, but like I said, it was made very clear that that wasn't going to happen."

On whether it was important to resolve the situation before the draft to prevent a distraction:
"It wasn't about avoiding a distraction. It was just about it getting to the point where it became very clear to us that it wasn't going to be resolved the way that we were trying to resolve it. At that point I think you are going to try to move on and make the best decision you can to improve your team and then focus on the rest of the spring and having a great offseason. It wasn't about needing more time or giving enough time."

On whether it was a situation where one player was bigger than the team:
"Like I said, it just became clear that that wasn't what they wanted. At that point we are focusing on the team. We are focusing on the team every day. We are going to win as a team every day. It's not going to be one player and it's not going to be two players. It's going to be a team and we are going to win. Whichever way we are trying to win, that's the way we are going to try to win. If it's kicking six field goals, it's kicking six field goals; if it's shutting somebody, out it's shutting somebody out; or if it's scoring 45 points it's scoring 45 points. Whatever combination of those things we need to try to win with that's what we're going to try to use. It wasn't just about something like that."

On how he reassures the fans that the team is moving forward:
"We are going to make every decision that we can to try to improve the team. This wasn't the end result we were looking for from the onset, but it is where we are at now and we are moving forward in a direction where we feel like we can compete and be competitive. We have added quite a few players to our roster. Our team is doing great things out here in the offseason, working hard. We are looking forward to taking every opportunity that we get as a new regime here to try and improve our team at these minicamps that we are going to have and the OTAs, passing camps and so on and so forth. We are going to be competitive and we are going to find a way to win. That's our job. It's a production business. We hired a good staff and we are going to continue try to add good players that can help out team win in the draft and if there is anybody left in free agency we will do the same thing. There is no one formula to win. We have a lot of improving to do on offense and defense and in the kicking game and we are going to do that every day from this point forward and see where it falls in September.

"We are hoping not to be patient as a franchise. The [fans] are not going to put the season on hold for us. We are going to show up, get ready to go and have a productive offseason. We are going to go into training camp with the same mindset and we are going to try to win. That's what we are going to do: we are going to try to win. And I know this, there is not just one way to do it. I know that."

[Hawgdriver]

paraphrased:

team...win...team...win...team...win

excellent

[getlynched47]

paraphrased:

team...win...team...win...team...win

excellent

let's hope so.

[getlynched47]

Brandon Marshall is on NFL Network right now

[topscribe]

There is no question that Bus Cook is the circus conducter in Jay's camp. Remember, he is an agent and is therefore no differant then a lawer. It is his job to tell Jay when he is to speak and to put the words into his mouth when the time comes. Expect Jay to be reading from a preprepared statement with Bus standing next to him. Bus will then step in front of Jay to field all questions. If Jay actually does say something after this point, it will be preceeded by Bus wispering something into his hear. Other then that, Jay will do nothing more then nod his head in agreement with anything and everything that Bus says. It will be like watching a rerun of TO's press conferance "appologizing" to the Eagles.

Well, with all the lying coming out of that corner, it makes sense that the
agent would be just like a lawyer. (Except you, Cugel and MUG :D )

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[Hawgdriver]

There is no question that Bus Cook is the circus conducter in Jay's camp. Remember, he is an agent and is therefore no differant then a lawer. It is his job to tell Jay when he is to speak and to put the words into his mouth when the time comes. Expect Jay to be reading from a preprepared statement with Bus standing next to him. Bus will then step in front of Jay to field all questions. If Jay actually does say something after this point, it will be preceeded by Bus wispering something into his hear. Other then that, Jay will do nothing more then nod his head in agreement with anything and everything that Bus says. It will be like watching a rerun of TO's press conferance "appologizing" to the Eagles.

Bus Cook isn't like a lawyer, Bus Cook is a lawyer. Of the possible scenarios I had discounted the likelihood of the redrafted contract as pain-point for Cutler scenario, but that might have been the case all along. If that was the case, I feel like a sucker. I mean, I actually thought what I heard in the media reports from Jay's side were true. You want to hear a story?

What? No? I can't hear you.

A 'cosmonaut factory' I work with was recently sued for causing 'undue hardship' and 'improper termination' or for some similar reasons when they fired a guy. Basically they had a dude that wanted to go start his own cosmonautic factory, steal the cosmonautic secret sauce as he left, and make life as painful as possible for his old firm. Before and during the lawsuit, a major New York newspaper ran scathing articles about the cosmonaut factory.

The newspaper ran articles that painted a one-sided picture of the situation. They said that the cosmonaut people fired his client after his client was merely late for work after helping little old ladies across the street and spending too much time in soup kitchens and jumping it front of cars to save kids lives, something along those lines. The real story was that this guy that got fired was sour grapes because of a 'non-compete' clause and found a lawyer that knew a newspaper reporter who would help him win a hefty settlement. In fact it settled, just so the news would go away. There was little merit to the case, but there was a lot of merit to the slander tactics used in the major NY newspaper. A good lawyer is good because he helps his clients win money, using whatever means necessary. The good ones rise to the top using tactics like these. Bus Cook is a good lawyer. McD's quote about Bus always needing to be present says a lot.

Why would he say that? What does he gain by saying that? What does he reveal? What's his incentive for saying such a thing? My inference from these things is that the contract/$$ as Cutler pain point theory is significantly more likely than I thought before.

[Shazam!]

"Kyle is going to come in here and we had a good conversation yesterday. He is excited to get to work and help our team compete and help our team win. That's what he wants to do and we are looking forward to having a player like that."

That's the kind of QB we need.


"He (Cutler) is a very talented player, but I will also say this: you are distinguished by getting to the playoffs and winning a lot of games. I think that's how you set yourself apart from other players in this league at any position. Is it a step down athletically? I don't know. You can say what you want to say about that. Is his arm stronger than Kyle's or Chris'? Yes it is. But can you win with anyone else. Sure you can. Like I said, what matters to me is that you have players at every position that we can win with, compete with and be successful with. That is what we are working hard to do every day."

This was a shot at him IMO.


paraphrased:

team...win...team...win...team...win

excellent

This is what I love about Coach McDaniels. Everything he says is positive, team and all about winning and the way he carries himself is excellent.