View Full Version : New MLB Wild Card Play-In game.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 01:59 PM
You for it or against it?
I hate it. Team A with 88 wins and the best pitcher in the game could beat Team B with 95 wins in a 1 game playoff and then Team A gets beat in the Divisional round 4-1.
Both teams would waste their best pitchers in the play-in game (most likely) and then basically be screwed in the next series.
Not very well thought out, IMO.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 02:08 PM
I hate it. Team A with 88 wins and the best pitcher in the game could beat Team B with 95 wins in a 1 game playoff and then Team A gets beat in the Divisional round 4-1.
You also hate fun.
You also hate fun.
I also think it's a farce. Ideally MLB would like to add another playoff series; not just one game. However, they don't have a TV contract for that yet. They don't need to negotiate a TV contract for just one playoff game so they can start this plan ASAP.
Obviously a one game playoff in Primetime TV would be a ratings bonanza. MLB would show those ratings to Fox, NBC, ESPN and TBS to generate as much revenue as possible in order to create an additional playoff series.
If you think an additional one game is MLB's end game then you're fooling yourself.
weazel
03-02-2012, 02:19 PM
I think it sucks that its one game... if you want to add another team to the playoffs do it, but do it right.
I still said I liked it because I like the fact of more teams in.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 02:21 PM
I also think it's a farce. Ideally MLB would like to add another playoff series; not just one game. However, they don't have a TV contract for that yet. They don't need to negotiate a TV contract for just one playoff game so they can start this plan ASAP.
Obviously a one game playoff in Primetime TV would be a ratings bonanza. MLB would show those ratings to Fox, NBC, ESPN and TBS to generate as much revenue as possible in order to create an additional playoff series.
If you think an additional one game is MLB's end game then you're fooling yourself.
No. Frankly I'd prefer that the season get 10 games removed from it, and then a playoff similar to the NFL format where the Wild Card rounds are a best of 3 series, and the top 4 seeds get a first round bye.
FanInAZ
03-02-2012, 02:27 PM
No. Frankly I'd prefer that the season get 10 games removed from it, and then a playoff similar to the NFL format where the Wild Card rounds are a best of 3 series, and the top 4 seeds get a first round bye.
:2thumbs: Best idea so far :2thumbs:
No. Frankly I'd prefer that the season get 10 games removed from it, and then a playoff similar to the NFL format where the Wild Card rounds are a best of 3 series, and the top 4 seeds get a first round bye.
Less games means less revenue so owners and the Union will never agree to that. However, I can envision expanding this one game playoff to best 2 out of 3 and eventually 3 out of 5. They don't need to reduce games they just need to schedule a few doubleheaders. I don't see why that's not possible.
They should already schedule more doubleheaders anyway and give players a couple more days off. It's very common for teams to play 21 straight games in a row and that's a bit much.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 02:30 PM
Less games means less revenue so owners and the Union will never agree to that. However, I can envision expanding this one game playoff to best 2 out of 3 and eventually 3 out of 5. They don't need to reduce games they just need to schedule a few doubleheaders. I don't see why that's not possible.
They should already schedule more doubleheaders anyway and give players a couple more days off. It's very common for teams to play 21 straight games in a row and that's a bit much.
I'd be happy with scheduling double headers, or the owners and the league come up with a better revenue sharing deal to close the competitive gap a bit (I know, pipe dream).
MOtorboat
03-02-2012, 02:41 PM
I voted no, because it's just one game. Love the idea, hate the execution.
What happens if two teams tie for the second wild card spot. Then, we essentially have two elimination games to begin the playoffs.
Now, for excitement purposes, it will be really cool to have a winner take all game to begin the playoffs. However, WTE is right, it probably does limit the effectiveness of the wildcard team in the following round, which is the downside.
The big budget teams win again..."how can we effectively eliminate a wild card team's proficiency at getting to the world series? Make them play one extra game."
How about a true play-in game like NCAA BB? Add two additional teams per league and the winner advances to the tourney.
I just think a team that finishes w/ 95 wins should be able to prove they're the better team in a true 7 game series rather than a one game playoff where anything can happen.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 02:42 PM
I voted no, because it's just one game. Love the idea, hate the execution.
What happens if two teams tie for the second wild card spot. Then, we essentially have two elimination games to begin the playoffs.
Now, for excitement purposes, it will be really cool to have a winner take all game to begin the playoffs. However, WTE is right, it probably does limit the effectiveness of the wildcard team in the following round, which is the downside.
The big budget teams win again..."how can we effectively eliminate a wild card team's proficiency at getting to the world series? Make them play one extra game."
Worked well in '07
MOtorboat
03-02-2012, 03:01 PM
Worked well in '07
True. But I believe that was a once in a lifetime type of occurrence.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 03:10 PM
True. But I believe that was a once in a lifetime type of occurrence.
Well now there is a greater possibility of it happening again.
CoachChaz
03-02-2012, 03:29 PM
Think about this. The last day of the 2011 season was one of the gretaest days of baseball...maybe even the greatest overall day that at least I have ever witnessed. With this format...that never happens because regardless of the outcome fo the games everyone was in.
But here's what is going to happen. The final WC spot is going to have 3 teams tie for it. Then you have to play 2 elimination games before getting to the 1 game WC game. The winner of the elimination games will then be using their #3 starter. Then if they happen to win, they move on with what is likely a .500 record.
Anyone can win 1 game in MLB. I hate the 1 game playoff. Either shorten the season and add another series, or keep it the way it is. it's not like the current system is failing.
Think about this. The last day of the 2011 season was one of the greatest days of baseball....
I hated it. One of the most miserable days of 2011.
CoachChaz
03-02-2012, 04:22 PM
I hated it. One of the most miserable days of 2011.
For you...yes. but my beloved Orioles helped make it a VERY good day.
But fear not...your Sawx will be there this year. They would have to add 15 wild card spots for my O's to get in. At least I have the hometown Phillies and the current location Rangers to watch and cheer for.
Thnikkaman
03-02-2012, 10:39 PM
Think about this. The last day of the 2011 season was one of the gretaest days of baseball...maybe even the greatest overall day that at least I have ever witnessed. With this format...that never happens because regardless of the outcome fo the games everyone was in.
But here's what is going to happen. The final WC spot is going to have 3 teams tie for it. Then you have to play 2 elimination games before getting to the 1 game WC game. The winner of the elimination games will then be using their #3 starter. Then if they happen to win, they move on with what is likely a .500 record.
Anyone can win 1 game in MLB. I hate the 1 game playoff. Either shorten the season and add another series, or keep it the way it is. it's not like the current system is failing.
And I cant wait for this to happen.
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