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MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Discuss amongst yourselves.

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 06:38 PM
**** the patriots

that is all

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Patriots defense stepped up and stopped the Giants first drive with 2 sacks on Eli.

Now let's see if the Giants can do the same to Brady.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:41 PM
I'm torn. There's a player I'd like to see get a ring on the Patriots. But I HATE the Patriots.

Props to Audi for the vampire commercial.

SAFETY!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:41 PM
DAMN!:lol:

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:42 PM
That Pepsi commercial was gay!

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 06:43 PM
first pads by brady?

safety

love it

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:43 PM
Hyundai with the Ryan Goseling "Drive" cameo...

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:44 PM
first pads by brady?

safety

love it

Brady got jacked up!

Denver Native (Carol)
02-05-2012, 06:45 PM
Throwing in my 2 cents, Denver's own Alan Roach., once again, has the PA announcer gig

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:46 PM
That Pepsi commercial was gay!

I thoroughly laughed at Flavor Flav though.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Man...I guess Belichick forgot to coach tackling this week

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:52 PM
ELI = WOW!:shocked:

Nomad
02-05-2012, 06:52 PM
I thoroughly laughed at Flavor Flav though.

Was that the black guy at the end? I didn't hear what he said.

Dzone
02-05-2012, 06:56 PM
That safety was a bullshit call.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Was that the black guy at the end? I didn't hear what he said.

I don't even remember now, he just said it in a totally Flava Flav way and I laughed.

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Typical Cheatriots trying to sneak an extra defender on the field. LOL

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 06:59 PM
This could be a shootout.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 07:01 PM
Quick quarter.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 07:02 PM
I like watching Wes Welker.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 07:09 PM
I'm so jealous of the way the Giants play football. I realize the Pats are great and they could win this thing but the team I want the Broncos to be like is the Giants.

They're tough, smart, bruising, and clutch. I love the way they play.

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 07:10 PM
I like watching Wes Welker.

Not if he's on your opponents.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 07:11 PM
TaxACT is now leading in the commercial war, lol...

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 07:12 PM
I like being able to run it down another team's throats. Good ol' fashion smash-mouth.

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Looks like animals and end times are dominating the commercials so far.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Well, that commercial was right about one thing. The dog was not funnier than the Vader kid.

The Vader kid is an all time classic.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 07:23 PM
Did anyone else notice the "Down with J.P.P" outro for NBC a while ago? Was that something NBC commissioned, or was that something done in New York this season?

Davii
02-05-2012, 07:25 PM
Good game so far. Sucks for Beckham, torn ACL. I like seeing Beady under pressure...

Nomad
02-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Damn...I like the defensive game so far but I thought there would be more offense. My high scores in my pool may not happen unless second half becomes an offensive shootout.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 07:29 PM
Hynoski having a very good game so far. I love seeing FBs have big games. Remember Howard Griffith in both of our SB wins? Loved it.

Dzone
02-05-2012, 07:39 PM
teleflora was highly sexual...the message was clear:Buy flowers-get tail on valentines night

Nomad
02-05-2012, 07:49 PM
I guess never count out the Patriots. A fun team to watch.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 07:50 PM
Woodhead.

;)

Nomad
02-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Woodhead.

;)

That was a cool story!

Welker and Woodhead are called the Smurfs!:lol:

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 07:51 PM
This game will be close. Good, entertain us!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 07:56 PM
WARNING...I made the mistake of letting the wife watch the game with me and I'm gonna be stuck watching Madonna because she wants to see her. I'd rather watch someone weld.:lol:

wayninja
02-05-2012, 07:56 PM
The pats o-line looks very impressive when they are allowed to hold with impunity.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:03 PM
Is Madonna wearing a med-alert bracelet?

FanInAZ
02-05-2012, 08:04 PM
The Giants trailed us by this same score @ half time of SB XXI, I wouldn't mind seeing Manning pull a Simms on Patriots in the 2nd half of this SB.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:05 PM
Well, this is terrible...

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:06 PM
so that's the 'product' that LMFAO puts in their hair...

FanInAZ
02-05-2012, 08:07 PM
Well, this is terrible...

Better then the Stone did in SB XL.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:08 PM
LMFAO isn't even a real band, they're a goof that somehow stuck. They're like Weird Al Yankovich without the talent.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:08 PM
so that's the 'product' that LMFAO puts in their hair...

So THAT is LMFAO?

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:10 PM
Better then the Stone did in SB XL.

Setting the bar high, I see...

Why is Keith Urban not the halftime show? Serious.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-05-2012, 08:10 PM
I think most SB halftimes are stupid. Not sure why anyone would watch just for them.

CrazyHorse
02-05-2012, 08:11 PM
I think most SB halftimes are stupid. Not sure why anyone would watch just for them.

Me too. I feel the same way about the commercials.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:12 PM
Here's to Flogging Molly and Dropkick Murpheys being next years half time show. Let's get some people who will actually rock this b1tch.

FanInAZ
02-05-2012, 08:13 PM
Setting the bar high, I see...

Why is Keith Urban not the halftime show? Serious.

:D It takes a lot of talent to outperform someone who destroyed his voice with drugs :D

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:14 PM
My favorite part was when she stopped screeching to music.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:15 PM
Hey Madonna, shut up and show us your tits. Mmkay?

Denver Native (Carol)
02-05-2012, 08:15 PM
Me too. I feel the same way about the commercials.

I totally agree. I don't even pay attention to them.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:16 PM
Hey Madonna, shut up and show us your tits. Mmkay?

You are better off looking at dried prunes through a magnifying glass.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:17 PM
:D It takes a lot of talent to outperform someone who destroyed his voice with drugs :D

I'm convinced that Keith Richards died in the 80s, but for a dead guy, he can still play guitar fairly well.

At least I like their music.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:19 PM
I wonder if Clint directed that chrysler comercial.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Setting the bar high, I see...

Why is Keith Urban not the halftime show? Serious.

I'm guessing Madonna more better represents the NFL's demographic of middle-aged women and gay men.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:21 PM
I wonder if Clint directed that chrysler comercial.

Trying to piggy back on last year's with Eminem. Not as good.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:23 PM
I can't believe Eastwood is 84 yrs old:shocked:

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:24 PM
I'm guessing Madonna more better represents the NFL's demographic of middle-aged women and gay men.

Are you trying to tell me middle-aged women and gay men are more attracted to Madonna than Keith Urban?

Shit, I'm attracted to Keith Urban...

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:25 PM
I have a bad feeling for the Giants this half...hope I'm wrong...I picked them to win.

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 08:26 PM
I am a bad person because I would like to se Brady's career end tonight

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:27 PM
I am a bad person because I would like to se Brady's career end tonight

Why? I believe he's a damn good QB....very arrogant....he backs it up though.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:29 PM
WTE is flipping us all off right now and probably drunk!:lol:

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:30 PM
What is Hernandez's celebration?

Does he open up a safe, grab the cash and make it rain? Did I see that right?

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:31 PM
The Giants are on the knife's edge of getting their asses kicked. They absolutely have to show up on offense on this drive.

madmanbryan
02-05-2012, 08:31 PM
Makin it rain,man
Hernadez is a beast...but f**k the pats

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:31 PM
What is Hernandez's celebration?

Does he open up a safe, grab the cash and make it rain? Did I see that right?

Not sure I understood it, your interpretation is better than mine. I thought he was poking someones eyes out and then steering a ship.

Some of these guys really need to study their Marcel Marceau in the offseason.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:31 PM
What is Hernandez's celebration?

Does he open up a safe, grab the cash and make it rain? Did I see that right?

I guessed Von Miller's dance wrong so I won't attempt to guess Hernandez's.:D

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:33 PM
BTW, where the Hell are all the movie trailers? The only commercials I give a shit about during the SB are the movie trailers and I haven't seen shit for them tonight.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:34 PM
BTW, where the Hell are all the movie trailers? The only commercials I give a shit about during the SB are the movie trailers and I haven't seen shit for them tonight.

Avengers and Battleship are two that come to mind.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:34 PM
BTW, where the Hell are all the movie trailers? The only commercials I give a shit about during the SB are the movie trailers and I haven't seen shit for them tonight.

There was an Avengers preview and that Scorpion King-esque Disney movie too, earlier.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:35 PM
BTW, where the Hell are all the movie trailers? The only commercials I give a shit about during the SB are the movie trailers and I haven't seen shit for them tonight.

They seemed to have brought Star Wars back (MS is thrilled) and another Transformer movie called "Battleship". Lots of end of the world type movies this year.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Avengers and Battleship are two that come to mind.

Agengers I've seen a dozen times and Battleship looks like the biggest piece of shit in history.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:36 PM
I didn't see the Scorpion kingesque disney thing.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Agengers I've seen a dozen times and Battleship looks like the biggest piece of shit in history.

Hey, I didn't say they were good... just mentioning that they did have some trailers... 4 that folks have named, although not sure Phantom Menace 3d counts.

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Agengers I've seen a dozen times and Battleship looks like the biggest piece of shit in history.

The Disney movie actually looks pretty good.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:37 PM
I didn't see the Scorpion kingesque disney thing.

John Carter

Davii
02-05-2012, 08:37 PM
There was an Avengers preview and that Scorpion King-esque Disney movie too, earlier.

New GI Joe with The Rock and Bruce Willis too.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:38 PM
The Disney movie actually looks pretty good.

I like Dwayne Johnson.

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 08:44 PM
I am a bad person because I would like to se Brady's career end tonight

Why? I believe he's a damn good QB....very arrogant....he backs it up though.

I think his system is good, and that he is an average QB. See cassell for reference. he also has an exceptional O line

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:46 PM
I think his system is good, and that he ia an average QB. See cassell for reference

I completely agree. I know there are tons that would go epileptic at the mention of it, but Brady in Jacksonville isn't a HOFer. Just my 2 cents.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:47 PM
I think his system is good, and that he ia an average QB. See cassell for reference

You could be right. I wonder if he'll eventually be Montanaed and Manninged

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:47 PM
Woah, Brady looked like Tebow on that play.

Davii
02-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Holy crap the holding going on Is ridiculous!

Down goes Brady!

At some point the refs must start throwing flags for holding

topscribe
02-05-2012, 08:50 PM
I think his system is good, and that he is an average QB. See cassell for reference. he also has an exceptional O line

Can't agree, old man. Brady is precision accurate, has a greased lightning-quick
release, and he is the last word in smart. Don't get me wrong: I don't like him a
whole lot, but the guy is good.

He does rattle a bit under pressure, though . . .

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MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 08:50 PM
Woah, Brady looked like Tebow on that play.

The one where he got sacked or the one where he threw it five yards from the tight end?

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Textbook fumble recovery

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:52 PM
The one where he got sacked or the one where he threw it five yards from the tight end?

I was thinking of the one where he ran backwards into a sack.

But I guess both.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 08:53 PM
Way to go old pollack FB.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 08:53 PM
Has there been a pass of more than 15 yards all night?

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:54 PM
Way to go old pollack FB.

I wanted that dude a BRONCO.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Oh well, I ain't winning $500 this year regardless if the Giants win unless alot more points are scored on both sides.

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Can't agree, old man. Brady is precision accurate, has a greased lightning-quick
release, and he is the last word in smart. Don't get me wrong: I don't like him a
whole lot, but the guy is good.

He does rattle a bit under pressure, though . . .

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Exhibit A. Tell me that Brady gets the Broncos to the Superbowl the three times Elway did without TD.

Exhibit B. Show me how many plays Brady is successful when the pocket breaks down.

Exhibit C. His Injury Year.

I will agree that he is fast and fairly accurate, but he also works in that system. New England has great receivers an excellent O-Line, and a good enough Defense. If you pulled Brady out, and put Orton in, he would have gotten the Patriots to the playoffs this year. Christian Ponder could have lead the Patriots to the Superbowl this year.

Brady gets more credit than he deserves, and I believe that there will be one more Superbowl after Brady is done for the Patriots because Billichick knows how to evaluate talent for his system.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:02 PM
Interesting....local commercials....never realized they had them during the SB

topscribe
02-05-2012, 09:03 PM
Exhibit A. Tell me that Brady gets the Broncos to the Superbowl the three times Elway did without TD.

Exhibit B. Show me how many plays Brady is successful when the pocket breaks down.

Exhibit C. His Injury Year.

I will agree that he is fast and fairly accurate, but he also works in that system. New England has great receivers an excellent O-Line, and a good enough Defense. If you pulled Brady out, and put Orton in, he would have gotten the Patriots to the playoffs this year. Christian Ponder could have lead the Patriots to the Superbowl this year.

Brady gets more credit than he deserves, and I believe that there will be one more Superbowl after Brady is done for the Patriots because Billichick knows how to evaluate talent for his system.

Well, that's a sign of a good QB: He can work the system. But I didn't say he
was as good as Elway. You can be good and still not as good as Elway, can't
you?

But I won't say anything about Orton. Seems to draw the trolls down on me. :lol:

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wayninja
02-05-2012, 09:04 PM
Exhibit B. Show me how many plays Brady is successful when the pocket breaks down.

Speak of the devil. Brady started to prove you wrong and then handed you the case.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:04 PM
Eli did an Orton

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 09:05 PM
The Giants have gotten lucky on fumbles three times. One penalty and two FR by the offense...

wayninja
02-05-2012, 09:07 PM
The Giants have gotten lucky on fumbles three times. One penalty and two FR by the offense...

The patriots have gotten pretty good favoritism against the Giants D-line...

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 09:13 PM
Wego.

Davii
02-05-2012, 09:19 PM
Wego.

Here Wego! Bring me a beer you little sumbish

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:20 PM
Motley Crue:werd:

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Woodhead for MVP.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:24 PM
System or not, Brady is kicking the Giants D's ass!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:24 PM
Woodhead for MVP.

Woodhead is doing a hell of a job!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:28 PM
Giants running out of time and luck......McDaniels gets a SB ring.:lol:......sorry:couch::D

Davii
02-05-2012, 09:34 PM
Looks clean. Great catch

gnomeflinger
02-05-2012, 09:35 PM
Come ON Giants!

topscribe
02-05-2012, 09:37 PM
Giants running out of time and luck......McDaniels gets a SB ring.:lol:......sorry:couch::D

Just didn't think the Patriots could overcome the Giants' pass rush and their own mediocre defense.

Shows you never know . . .

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pnbronco
02-05-2012, 09:37 PM
This is a great game....

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:38 PM
Just didn't think the Patriots could overcome the Giants' pass rush and their own mediocre defense.

Shows you never know . . .

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Shhhh......I'm trying the voodoo, reverse pyschology thingy.:D

MOtorboat
02-05-2012, 09:39 PM
As bad as I want Danny to get a ring, I want Eli(-te) to beat Brady again...

DenBronx
02-05-2012, 09:39 PM
This game is like Lady Gagas gender....too close to call.

BroncoNut
02-05-2012, 09:41 PM
that time out taken is going to come back to haunt the Giants

Davii
02-05-2012, 09:44 PM
He should've taken a knee

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 09:45 PM
Eli is a stud. As clutch as it gets.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:45 PM
Giants will lose....thanks Bradshaw!:tsk:;)

pnbronco
02-05-2012, 09:48 PM
I just keep going WOW!!!!

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 09:49 PM
No. Giants will win. Don't worry. That was the right play. I'd rather have a four point lead and :57 than a 2 point lead and :20. Just me.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:50 PM
Giants are screwed here. All American brady to the rescue

DenBronx
02-05-2012, 09:50 PM
And that's why there's a premuim on pass rushers on the NFL.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 09:51 PM
Tom Brady must hate the Giants. :laugh::laugh:

Thnikkaman
02-05-2012, 09:51 PM
Eli is a stud. As clutch as it gets.

Eli > Tom

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:51 PM
Tom Brady must hate the Giants. :laugh::laugh:

Brady is the man...game is his to win with :19 seconds!

pnbronco
02-05-2012, 09:52 PM
This is it

Denver Native (Carol)
02-05-2012, 09:53 PM
Reminds me in a way how the Broncos vs GB SB ended :salute:

pnbronco
02-05-2012, 09:53 PM
That was so crazy....a Giants win.....what a game....man I enjoyed that!

Davii
02-05-2012, 09:54 PM
I never mind watching the Pats lose.

MasterShake
02-05-2012, 09:54 PM
I hope this puts an end to the Patriots for a while, but damn those were two good teams out there tonight. Good game!

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:54 PM
Did I do good jinxing the Patriots...I owe it all to MO! He is the king of jinxing.:D

DenBronx
02-05-2012, 09:55 PM
Tom Brady, you have now entered The Twilight Zone.

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 09:56 PM
Woohoo. Eli is elite. What a game. Go cry Bellichick and Brady. The Giants are like kryptonite for the Pats. :laugh::laugh:



Just goes to show that defense and ball control football is still the way to win.

Nomad
02-05-2012, 09:57 PM
Mastershake.....you must be pumped for Star Wars 3-D!

Kapaibro
02-05-2012, 10:02 PM
Yeeeha!

tomjonesrocks
02-05-2012, 10:03 PM
As I hoped it would turn out. Very nice.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 10:05 PM
Watching all those black dudes grab that old guys plated ball is disturbing.

BroncoNut
02-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Watching all those black dudes grab that old guys plated ball is disturbing.

that is terrible

DenBronx
02-05-2012, 10:09 PM
Tim Tebow just told Gisele, "The big guy only listens to my prayers."

Nomad
02-05-2012, 10:12 PM
I'd trade it for a truck!!

chazoe60
02-05-2012, 10:15 PM
That car was badass. I'd park it next to my Tahoe and make the old lady park in the street. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 10:24 PM
At some point the refs must start throwing flags for holding

I think the NFL told the refs this postseason to swallow their whistles and let the players play unless it's absolutely blatant. The non-PI call confirmed that to me. I actually think that makes for better football. Nobody wants to see the refs deciding who wins the game like you sometimes see in the regular season.

wayninja
02-05-2012, 10:26 PM
I think the NFL told the refs this postseason to swallow their whistles and let the players play unless it's absolutely blatant. The non-PI call confirmed that to me. I actually think that makes for better football. Nobody wants to see the refs deciding who wins the game like you sometimes see in the regular season.

I understand your point, but not calling fouls can be just as game affecting as calling them. Non calls are the lesser of the two evils though.

OrangeHoof
02-05-2012, 10:43 PM
I enjoyed the game. Just before the winning touchdown, I told the folks around me, "watch the Patriots let him score" and that happened. I couldn't listen to the commentary and i wonder if Michaels/Collinsworth mentioned it on the air.

topscribe
02-05-2012, 10:44 PM
I enjoyed the game. Just before the winning touchdown, I told the folks around me, "watch the Patriots let him score" and that happened. I couldn't listen to the commentary and i wonder if Michaels/Collinsworth mentioned it on the air.

It was humorous to see Bradshaw do his "uh-oh" stop then tumble into the end zone. :laugh:

But yes, Collinsworth called it out immediately after the play, and they discussed it.

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skins_fan82
02-05-2012, 11:01 PM
Suck it Brady, you overrated mother ******.

Northman
02-05-2012, 11:19 PM
Suck it Brady, you overrated mother ******.

Lol

He isnt overrated. He was hardly the problem for the Pats tonight. If Welker doesnt pull a Lee Evans they may go on too score and kill more clock. Difference was Manningham made a play and Wes did not. But both QB's played some of their best foozeball tonight.

Dzone
02-05-2012, 11:34 PM
Great game. I love that Caughlin is 65 and looks like he is fit enough to coach another 10 years

Madonna was ok, but that last song fell flat. She has better songs than that lame number.

Army Bronco
02-05-2012, 11:41 PM
I think Brady is good cause he has such a good team around him. He is a good player but his team makes him better. Plus they get away with holding a lot...lol

Northman
02-05-2012, 11:45 PM
I think Brady is good cause he has such a good team around him. He is a good player but his team makes him better. Plus they get away with holding a lot...lol

Yes, because Eli has a bunch of scrubs around him. :lol:

Dzone
02-05-2012, 11:50 PM
Both Qbs played amazing games. Eli just secured a bust in Canton.

Anyway, If you dont like this super bowl commercial, then youre probably ghey...lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWrJgFjxlS0

Ziggy
02-06-2012, 12:06 AM
More proof that a great defense + a decent running game + a QB that can make all the throws = Championship.

Bronco4ever
02-06-2012, 12:32 AM
As bad as I want Danny to get a ring, I want Eli(-te) to beat Brady again...

Those were might thoughts as well. Love me some Woodhead as I've had many family members go to Chadron State and he's basically a hometown guy for most people in western South Dakota (the front Page of the Rapid City Journal was dedicated to Woodhead). I'm just happy he scored a touchdown!

OrangeHoof
02-06-2012, 12:53 AM
If I had a vote for MVP tonight it would be Manningham. His catches on the game-winning drive were the difference between winning and losing. Yes, Eli had some nice stats but the Giants put up only 19 points on a less-than-stellar defense.

Ziggy
02-06-2012, 05:01 AM
If I had a vote for MVP tonight it would be Manningham. His catches on the game-winning drive were the difference between winning and losing. Yes, Eli had some nice stats but the Giants put up only 19 points on a less-than-stellar defense.

I was OK with Eli, but Justin Tuck made a case for MVP himself.

Traveler
02-06-2012, 06:05 AM
Most boring SB ever!

Skinny
02-06-2012, 06:38 AM
Most boring SB ever!

Agreed. Atleast the Giants won.

Army Bronco
02-06-2012, 07:27 AM
Yes, Eli does have scrubs around him!!

skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 10:01 AM
OWNED. :beer:



http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2012/02/brady.jpg

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 10:24 AM
Most boring SB ever!

sarcasm?

slim
02-06-2012, 11:15 AM
I liked how every time one of the QB's made a poor throw, Collinsworth blamed it on the WRs.

It was funny.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 11:23 AM
I liked how every time one of the QB's made a poor throw, Collinsworth blamed it on the WRs.

It was funny.

Collinsworth is kinda a dick I noticed last night. he was somewhat unfairly tough on receivers.

OrangeHoof
02-06-2012, 11:23 AM
On the contrary, for a SB where I had no dog in the hunt, it was one of the best. It did lack for big moments though. I love the chess match and the late-game strategy so perhaps I enjoyed it more than some. Give me a close game in the final minutes with must-produce situations and I'm usually interested. The Giants executed when they needed to in the final minutes and the Patriots didn't. Simple as that.

weazel
02-06-2012, 11:29 AM
I cant wait for the game!

wayninja
02-06-2012, 12:52 PM
I liked how every time one of the QB's made a poor throw, Collinsworth blamed it on the WRs.

It was funny.

I was thinking the same thing. That shit don't fly around here.

MOtorboat
02-06-2012, 12:57 PM
I liked how every time one of the QB's made a poor throw, Collinsworth blamed it on the WRs.

It was funny.

That sounds familiar...

wayninja
02-06-2012, 01:00 PM
That sounds familiar...

Maybe on the Green Bay board. Polar opposite here. Receiver drops a ball and it's the QB who can't throw a tight enough spiral.

You have to have a SB ring to get the kind of blinders-credibility that Collinsworth was dishing out last night.

slim
02-06-2012, 01:01 PM
That sounds familiar...

Funny, I don't recall NFL analysts ever blaming the Bronco WRs. :welcome:

wayninja
02-06-2012, 01:22 PM
Funny, I don't recall NFL analysts ever blaming the Bronco WRs. :welcome:

I have, but not nearly as bad as last night. The graphic they put up showing how Manningham needed to stay just inside the numbers was particularly funny considering the subsequent replay showed him running exactly where the graphic pointed and the only way he could make the catch was to break to the sideline for a catch that was basically impossible to make in-bounds.

Eli throws the ball 3 feet OOB, but it's Mario's fault. That's a new level there.

slim
02-06-2012, 01:23 PM
I have, but not nearly as bad as last night. The graphic they put up showing how Manningham needed to stay just inside the numbers was particularly funny considering the subsequent replay showed him running exactly where the graphic pointed and the only way he could make the catch was to break to the sideline for a catch that was basically impossible to make in-bounds.

That is the one that got me too. I thought maybe when Chris had a chance to watch the reply that maybe he would change his stance. But he kept on saying it, even as it was replayed about 5 times. What an idiot.

fvkw
02-06-2012, 01:37 PM
You can't spell "ELITE QB" Without ELI ! :-) You heard it hear first !

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CrazyHorse
02-06-2012, 01:43 PM
More proof that a great defense + a decent running game + a QB that can make all the throws = Championship.

What great defense and running game? Have you seen where the Giants were ranked?

wayninja
02-06-2012, 01:49 PM
What great defense and running game? Have you seen where the Giants were ranked?

Not to mention that neither QB 'made all the throws'. Oh, sure they both had good completion percentages, but I don't think either QB threw a pass longer than 10 yards in the first 3 quarters of the game.

They both made some fairly poor throws longer than 10 yards. Eli was definitely clutch and put the ball were it needed to be when it needed to be there, but neither QB looked sensational using the eye test. Both were good. Nothing more.

You don't need an offense that can put up 40 points every game and you don't need a QB that dinks and dunks for a 70% completion rate. You need a good, clutch QB, a solid defense with a decent pass rush, and good depth.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-06-2012, 01:58 PM
New England Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker was so upset over dropping a crucial pass late in the fourth quarter of Sunday's 21-17 loss to the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI, he nearly started crying at the podium.

Welker isn't going to get any pity from quarterback Tom Brady's wife, Gisele Bundchen, though.

After her prayers for a Patriots' championship went unanswered, Bunchen lashed out at the team's receiving corps for failing to haul in her husband's passes. While waiting for an elevator at Lucas Oil Stadium, Bundchen was being heckled by Giants fans when she spoke to people in her group.

rest - http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7546795/tom-brady-wife-gisele-bundchen-blasts-new-england-patriots-receivers

wayninja
02-06-2012, 02:01 PM
rest - http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7546795/tom-brady-wife-gisele-bundchen-blasts-new-england-patriots-receivers

That's funny as hell. I wonder if Brady is attracted to her because they both have similar chin-holes.

Northman
02-06-2012, 02:02 PM
Welker should cry. Maybe Lee Evans can console him.

topscribe
02-06-2012, 02:15 PM
rest - http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7546795/tom-brady-wife-gisele-bundchen-blasts-new-england-patriots-receivers

Sounds like a classy lady. :rolleyes:

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topscribe
02-06-2012, 02:19 PM
Funny, I don't recall NFL analysts ever blaming the Bronco WRs. :welcome:

Maybe sometimes they have a hard time telling whether the WR should have
been 10 yards downfield where the pass fell?

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Thnikkaman
02-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Maybe sometimes they have a hard time telling whether the WR should have
been 10 yards downfield where the pass fell?

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Game ends differently if Brady can scramble. I wonder if that was the first safety in SuperBowl history.

wayninja
02-06-2012, 02:34 PM
Game ends differently if Brady can scramble. I wonder if that was the first safety in SuperBowl history.

It was not. It's been a while, but they mentioned it when it happened.

GEM
02-06-2012, 02:37 PM
Hynoski having a very good game so far. I love seeing FBs have big games. Remember Howard Griffith in both of our SB wins? Loved it.

My dad and I were talking about the lost art of the fullback after watching the Giants' FB truck over that defensive player.

GEM
02-06-2012, 02:39 PM
Great game. I love that Caughlin is 65 and looks like he is fit enough to coach another 10 years

Madonna was ok, but that last song fell flat. She has better songs than that lame number.

She came out singing Vogue which is absolutely her worst song ever made. Dumb ******* song. How much work has that lady had done....she looks like she's about 40. :shocked:

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 02:51 PM
Game ends differently if Brady can scramble. I wonder if that was the first safety in SuperBowl history.

I believe that they mentioned that it was. either that or the first 1st quarter safety

OrangeHoof
02-06-2012, 02:54 PM
To me, the best commercial was the NFL.com ad where the kick returner starts in the 1920s in the rain and morphs several times over the decades into different NFL stars before he becomes Devin Hester crossing the goal line. That was cool.

Other than that, I think the best ad was the dweeb and the hot chick on the curb who, near the end, morphs into some car with a scorpion symbol. The car was ugly but the chick was fantastic.

Northman
02-06-2012, 02:55 PM
Betty White for the win.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 02:56 PM
I thought the coca cola polar bear commercials were cute

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 02:59 PM
To me, the best commercial was the NFL.com ad where the kick returner starts in the 1920s in the rain and morphs several times over the decades into different NFL stars before he becomes Devin Hester crossing the goal line. That was cool.

Other than that, I think the best ad was the dweeb and the hot chick on the curb who, near the end, morphs into some car with a scorpion symbol. The car was ugly but the chick was fantastic.

I bet most of the guys that played football back in the 20's are now dead

wayninja
02-06-2012, 03:06 PM
I believe that they mentioned that it was. either that or the first 1st quarter safety

The first safety was super bowl 9, Pitt vs Minn. Dunno about 1st quarter though.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:13 PM
The first safety was super bowl 9, Pitt vs Minn. Dunno about 1st quarter though.

come to think of it, I think the announcer said it was the first superbowl safety since ... a certain year

WTE
02-06-2012, 03:19 PM
come to think of it, I think the announcer said it was the first superbowl safety since ... a certain year

I didn't agree w/ the call.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:22 PM
I didn't agree w/ the call.

I kinda didn't either. It was sketchy, too vague. I think you need to plant the qb in the endzone while he has possession

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:22 PM
I didn't agree w/ the call.

Either he threw it away or the early-season Tim Tebow was secretly in the Patriots uniform at QB.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-06-2012, 03:23 PM
I didn't agree w/ the call.

Why?

Canmore
02-06-2012, 03:23 PM
I didn't agree w/ the call.

In the pocket, under pressure he threw it away. I was saying that's grounding in the end zone for a safety the moment the ball hit the ground. There was not a very long delay by the refs in throwing the flag. It was pretty clear to me.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:24 PM
I kinda didn't either. It was sketchy, too vague. I think you need to plant the qb in the endzone while he has possession

He threw it away in the end zone, in the pocket, and with a defender on him. You can argue he overthrew a guy by 20 yards but it was a good call.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:25 PM
something tells me that WTE didn't agree with the call because it was against new england.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:27 PM
He threw it away in the end zone, in the pocket, and with a defender on him. You can argue he overthrew a guy by 20 yards but it was a good call.

it should've been called intentional grounding with half the distance to the goal

WTE
02-06-2012, 03:29 PM
something tells me that WTE didn't agree with the call because it was against new england.

No Nut, he wasn't under as much pressure as people think. He started to throw the ball when the defender was still several feet away. Normally when you're trying to get rid of the ball you quickly throw it away for 10 or 15 yards. Oh, and the defender was pushed into Brady by his O-lineman. brady didn't know that would happen when he released the ball
.

Don't believe me? Then see for yourself my little Bronco Buddy.


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Canmore
02-06-2012, 03:29 PM
it should've been called intentional grounding with half the distance to the goal

??? It happened in the end zone. Same as holding that's a safety.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:31 PM
??? It happened in the end zone. Same as holding that's a safety.

well, considerig the circumstances and that it was early in the game, I think some leeway and a bit of common courtesty could have been afforded.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
it should've been called intentional grounding with half the distance to the goal

Guys, please watch the play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7ige38TUU

He was in the end zone, between the tackles, absolutely no WR around. You don't need to like the rule (I would tend to agree that is what the rule should be) but the refs got it right.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-06-2012, 03:33 PM
Examples of Safety:



(a) Blocked punt goes out of kicking team’s end zone. Impetus was provided by punting team. The block only changes direction of ball, not impetus.

(b) Ball carrier retreats from field of play into his own end zone and is downed. Ball carrier provides impetus.

(c) Offensive team commits a foul and spot of enforcement is behind its own goal line.

(d) Player on receiving team muffs punt and, trying to get ball, forces or illegally kicks (creating new impetus) it into end zone where it goes out of the end zone or is recovered by a member of the receiving team in the end zone.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/safety2

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:34 PM
Most objective people would call him under pressure, as the ref apparently did after the d-lineman killed him.

WTE
02-06-2012, 03:38 PM
Most objective people would call him under pressure, as the ref apparently did after the d-lineman killed him.

Again, the d-lineman was pushed into Brady by his own offensive lineman thus making the pressure appear worse than it really was.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:39 PM
but what is pressure to some people may not be what is pressure to Tom Brady. This is just an example of one of the things that should be considered before making the call

GEM
02-06-2012, 03:40 PM
I thought the coca cola polar bear commercials were cute

Apparently Coke did an online campaign that went with the commercials. If you tuned in during the Super Bowl, the bears reacted to plays during the Super Bowl. One bear was a Pats fan, one was a Giants fan. When one team would do something good, the bears would react, same for something bad. Supposed to be pretty cool, but I didn't hear anything about it until 9 o'clock last night so whoever did the campaign, didn't do very well because not many knew to go online for the additional part.

Nomad
02-06-2012, 03:42 PM
I thought the coca cola polar bear commercials were cute

I'm thinking of going to the north slope and hug a polar bear. they seem really innocent and just want to have a good time....I'll bring some coke

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:43 PM
Apparently Coke did an online campaign that went with the commercials. If you tuned in during the Super Bowl, the bears reacted to plays during the Super Bowl. One bear was a Pats fan, one was a Giants fan. When one team would do something good, the bears would react, same for something bad. Supposed to be pretty cool, but I didn't hear anything about it until 9 o'clock last night so whoever did the campaign, didn't do very well because not many knew to go online for the additional part.

I didn't know about it. I thought the two main bears were husband and wife with the first one i saw. the 2nd I saw, it was not so much like that. but no, I ddin't hear about that, this is the first I heard about it actually. must've been quite a few of thiem. I was in the kitchen during a good portion of the game.

BigDaddyBronco
02-06-2012, 03:43 PM
I'm thinking of going to the north slope and hug a polar bear. they seem really innocent

Hell, I'm just going to climb the fence at the zoo...

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:44 PM
I'm thinking of going to the north slope and hug a polar bear. they seem really innocent and just want to have a good time....I'll bring some coke

I agree. they look so gentle. i bet the one's in the wild would really appreciate a nice hug

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:44 PM
Hell, I'm just going to climb the fence at the zoo...

do it BDB. I'll give you 5 bucks

GEM
02-06-2012, 03:44 PM
Again, the d-lineman was pushed into Brady by his own offensive lineman thus making the pressure appear worse than it really was.

Either way it's still pressure. That and the fact that there was no one within distance to where it landed.....they got the call right.

Watchthemiddle
02-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Anyone claiming "common courtesy" needs to realize that that does not nor should nor come into play in the SB. This is not the NBA where there is Star Treatment for fouls or NON fouls. This is BIG BOY football.

Despite that call, NE still could have won...and probably should have won but they didn't have tape to look at during that final NYG drive to look at and cheat at to win.

Northman
02-06-2012, 03:46 PM
I dont have a problem with the call on the safety. No one was near the ball for the patriots But, i have to wonder if a receiver ran the wrong route because Tom certainly threw it like he expected someone to be in the area.

The only real mistake i saw by Tom and even then it could be just as good as a punt was the INT he forced down the field to Gronk. When you watch that play Tom had a lot of real estate in front of him to get a first down. I know he doesnt consider himself a scrambler but when everything else is not working and if nothing is there either throw it out of bounds or run. You dont have to be fast but you have to make the defense account for a Qb who is willing to scramble.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:47 PM
I'm thinking of going to the north slope and hug a polar bear. they seem really innocent and just want to have a good time....I'll bring some coke

wait a minute. the north slope is in America isn't it? Are you saying that there are polar bears in America? I just thought antarctica and alaska

GEM
02-06-2012, 03:47 PM
Brady just plays with a lot more fear than he used to. He seems to get rattled much easier since the KC guy took the dirty hit to his knee.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:47 PM
Anyone claiming "common courtesy" needs to realize that that does not nor should nor come into play in the SB. This is not the NBA where there is Star Treatment for fouls or NON fouls. This is BIG BOY football.

Despite that call, NE still could have won...and probably should have won but they didn't have tape to look at during that final NYG drive to look at and cheat at to win.

the day where common courtesty isn't allowed in any event will be a sad day indeed.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:50 PM
Brady just plays with a lot more fear than he used to. He seems to get rattled much easier since the KC guy took the dirty hit to his knee.

Brady lives on screen passes and short patterns. He is good at executing it and the coaches have done a good job making him comfortable (note that Tebow needs to learn these throws), but we all know he is a pretty boy male super model that can be made very uncomfortable quick if he gets pressured. The Pats also gave him a very good o-line too.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 03:52 PM
Justin Tuck had pressure on Brady right before he was pushed, but it doesn't matter anyway...pressure is pressure. Unfortunately the NFL rulebook is not entirely clear on what that means, as they make reference to "facing an imminent loss of yardage
because of pressure from the defense" but I think that clearly was the case. It doesn't matter if he was pushed or not, if he didn't throw that ball, he was sacked in the end zone anyway.

BroncoNut
02-06-2012, 03:53 PM
Brady lives on screen passes and short patterns. He is good at executing it and the coaches have done a good job making him comfortable (note that Tebow needs to learn these throws), but we all know he is a pretty boy male super model that can be made very uncomfortable quick if he gets pressured. The Pats also gave him a very good o-line too.

him being a pretty boy male model has nothing to do with him being prone to becoming uncomfortable. I really take offense to these types of comments

OrangeHoof
02-06-2012, 03:54 PM
It used to not be illegal for overthrows to be just incompletes instead of considered intentional grounding but they changed the rule a few years ago. By today's rules, that's a good call but go back a decade and that isn't just not called, the commentators might tell you the QB made a smart play by throwing it away.

Just like when a really good hit was considered a really good hit instead of a personal foul for hitting somebody high, low, to the helmet, with the crown or before they could turn around and see who nailed them. Players used to get praised for playing like that, now they get a flag.

Watchthemiddle
02-06-2012, 03:56 PM
the day where common courtesty isn't allowed in any event will be a sad day indeed.

I am talking common courtesy like...the stars get the calls and the rookies or 2-3 year guys don't get the calls....or NON calls.

This is the Super Bowl...and for that matter....it's football and sports. You can't allow some to "get away" with things because the play for a "dynasty" or are a "all pro, or Pro Bowler".


Nothing ticks me off more when that happens. They all play the game. Call it as it happens and as you should call it. In this case, he is in the endzone and throws it to no-one. Maybe the wr ran the wrong route, or maybe Tom was hoping to get away with something because his name is associated with a super model.

That didn't happen and the correct call was called. And that is called BY THE BOOK. I am not sure why it is appropriate to call plays by the book when history is on the line and not consistently in general, but in this case it was correct.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 04:02 PM
him being a pretty boy male model has nothing to do with him being prone to becoming uncomfortable. I really take offense to these types of comments

Whatever. I think he is whiney, complains to the refs, doesn't do physical, and I have bias in that I don't like the character of the team he plays for. He's a good QB, largely because of the conditions the Pats have set up for him (which I wish Denver would do). My comments might seem insulting but I think they're true, of course you're welcome to disagree.

WTE
02-06-2012, 04:03 PM
him being a pretty boy male model has nothing to do with him being prone to becoming uncomfortable. I really take offense to these types of comments

I agree. Some of these so-called "fans" just don't get it.

cmc0605
02-06-2012, 04:09 PM
I agree. Some of these so-called "fans" just don't get it.

It's an opinion. I understand the game, and that most QBs are "uncomfortable" under pressure, I am simply commenting on Brady's style. You can have the guy with slick hair and who comes to work with a suit and tie and pretty much acts fake whenever he is talking. It's just as annoying as Tim Tebow talking except Tebow is actually sincere. I'd take Eli Manning over him most days of the weak. I think he wants it more, and wants to be a QB more without all the supermodel frenzy around him. Again, there's plenty of room for disagreement, but there's nothing to "get."

GEM
02-06-2012, 04:11 PM
Brady lives on screen passes and short patterns. He is good at executing it and the coaches have done a good job making him comfortable (note that Tebow needs to learn these throws), but we all know he is a pretty boy male super model that can be made very uncomfortable quick if he gets pressured. The Pats also gave him a very good o-line too.

He may be all that....but he wasn't this scared until after the knee injury. They timed his release prior to the knee and after the knee and the difference is night and day.

skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 04:15 PM
I think Brady was given waaaay too much credit for one or two of his early career superbowl rings. Back then, before he was "Tom ******* Brady," he was nothing more than a game manager. The patriots had really good defenses for those early Brady superbowls, and Tom was asked to just manage the game and not make mistakes.

Take the 2004 SB against the Eagles. The Patriots defense (that had 3 pro bowlers btw) forced FOUR turnovers. 3 interceptions of McNaab, and one forced fumble and recovery. on 2 of those 4 turnovers the Patriots forced, Brady took over already in Eagles' territory. So it's not like Brady was leading epic, 80-yard drives or antyhing. Even when given 4 free possessions off turnovers, it wasn't like Brady put up big numbers. 236 yards, 2 touchdowns. Nothing special. Yet he was given MVP.

But in his last two superbowls in 07 and this year, when Tom Brady has since emerged as a super star, he's 0-2. This new look Patriots of the last 5 years is all built around Tom. 0-2. :)

I think last game did two things: make eli a first ballot hall of famer, and pretty much kill the "Tom Brady is the greatest QB that ever lived" talk :)

FanInAZ
02-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Apparently Coke did an online campaign that went with the commercials. If you tuned in during the Super Bowl, the bears reacted to plays during the Super Bowl. One bear was a Pats fan, one was a Giants fan. When one team would do something good, the bears would react, same for something bad. Supposed to be pretty cool, but I didn't hear anything about it until 9 o'clock last night so whoever did the campaign, didn't do very well because not many knew to go online for the additional part.

I was told about it by another customer of the pizzeria that I watched the game at. I went to the Coke site, found the link; but the link didn't work. That might have had more to do with why no one watched it.

Northman
02-06-2012, 04:22 PM
I think Brady was given waaaay too much credit for one or two of his early career superbowl rings. Back then, before he was "Tom ******* Brady," he was nothing more than a game manager. The patriots had really good defenses for those early Brady superbowls, and Tom was asked to just manage the game and not make mistakes.

Take the 2004 SB against the Eagles. The Patriots defense (that had 3 pro bowlers btw) forced FOUR turnovers. 3 interceptions of McNaab, and one forced fumble and recovery. on 2 of those 4 turnovers the Patriots forced, Brady took over already in Eagles' territory. So it's not like Brady was leading epic, 80-yard drives or antyhing. Even when given 4 free possessions off turnovers, it wasn't like Brady put up big numbers. 236 yards, 2 touchdowns. Nothing special. Yet he was given MVP.

But in his last two superbowls in 07 and this year, when Tom Brady has since emerged as a super star, he's 0-2. This new look Patriots of the last 5 years is all built around Tom. 0-2. :)

I think last game did two things: make eli a first ballot hall of famer, and pretty much kill the "Tom Brady is the greatest QB that ever lived" talk :)

Didnt kill the talk to me. While Brady will never be the greatest QB ever compared to the likes of John he is still one of the best to ever play hands down. Im dying in hysterics here as some of you guys try to make it sound like the Pats were LOADED with talent. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Shit, the Giants had more talent on their team so i guess that makes Eli pretty average then.

WTE
02-06-2012, 04:23 PM
They timed his release prior to the knee and after the knee and the difference is night and day.

Who this They that though Gem speaks of?

Watchthemiddle
02-06-2012, 04:26 PM
I think Brady was given waaaay too much credit for one or two of his early career superbowl rings. Back then, before he was "Tom ******* Brady," he was nothing more than a game manager. The patriots had really good defenses for those early Brady superbowls, and Tom was asked to just manage the game and not make mistakes.

Take the 2004 SB against the Eagles. The Patriots defense (that had 3 pro bowlers btw) forced FOUR turnovers. 3 interceptions of McNaab, and one forced fumble and recovery. on 2 of those 4 turnovers the Patriots forced, Brady took over already in Eagles' territory. So it's not like Brady was leading epic, 80-yard drives or antyhing. Even when given 4 free possessions off turnovers, it wasn't like Brady put up big numbers. 236 yards, 2 touchdowns. Nothing special. Yet he was given MVP.

But in his last two superbowls in 07 and this year, when Tom Brady has since emerged as a super star, he's 0-2. This new look Patriots of the last 5 years is all built around Tom. 0-2. :)

I think last game did two things: make eli a first ballot hall of famer, and pretty much kill the "Tom Brady is the greatest QB that ever lived" talk :)

Brady is an extremly accurate passer. I guess anyone could be when your O line gives you the amount of time his line has given him against the "pass rushing teams" he has played against.

The Broncos with the DROY in Miller and DOOM could not touch him. Other teams are scared to blitz Tom because of his weapons. SO......is it weapons and O-line ....combined with a Defensive minded GENIUS head coach , or a great QB?

GEM
02-06-2012, 04:41 PM
I was told about it by another customer of the pizzeria that I watched the game at. I went to the Coke site, found the link; but the link didn't work. That might have had more to do with why no one watched it.

The link wouldn't work after it already happened. The whole point of it was they were reacting in real time. No one knew about it before the game to tune in.

GEM
02-06-2012, 04:42 PM
Who this They that though Gem speaks of?

I think my dad and I saw it on ESPN, I will try to find it. Hang on.

topscribe
02-06-2012, 04:45 PM
He may be all that....but he wasn't this scared until after the knee injury. They timed his release prior to the knee and after the knee and the difference is night and day.

That would seem to make a lot of difference for Brady. One of his strengths is
his lightning-quick release. Take that away from him, and he's got some trouble
because he's not much of a scrambler . . .

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skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 04:48 PM
So Brady having arguably the best tight end duo EVER isn't talent? How many single-season records did Gronk and Hernandez break this season?

And Wes Welker, "Mister reliable," who led the NFL in receptions...He's not "talent?" Welker is a checkdown machine. Tom can always count on him for 5 yards pretty much whenever.

And in '07, Brady was throwing to the best receiver in the NFL at the time in Randy Moss. I'll give it to you that in '07, Brady was making some great deep throws.

But with this new look Patrios and the tight end machine they've become, Brady hardly throws the ball further than 15 yards. Seriously. Brady threw for over 5,000 yards this season, but nearly half of those were YAC yards. The Patriots had more yards after catch than any other NFL team in 20 years since the 1992 49ers. So Brady's big yardage numbers this season were kinda inflated. 8-yard in routes to Gronkowski that turned into a 20+ yard scamper. a 5-yard quick slant from Welker that he turned into a 15 yard gain.

Northman
02-06-2012, 04:54 PM
So Brady having arguably the best tight end duo EVER isn't talent? How many single-season records did Gronk and Hernandez break this season?

And Wes Welker, "Mister reliable," who led the NFL in receptions...He's not "talent?" Welker is a checkdown machine. Tom can always count on him for 5 yards pretty much whenever.

And in '07, Brady was throwing to the best receiver in the NFL at the time in Randy Moss. I'll give it to you that in '07, Brady was making some great deep throws.

But with this new look Patrios and the tight end machine they've become, Brady hardly throws the ball further than 15 yards. Seriously. Brady threw for over 5,000 yards this season, but nearly half of those were YAC yards. The Patriots had more yards after catch than any other NFL team in 20 years since the 1992 49ers. So Brady's big yardage numbers this season were kinda inflated. 8-yard in routes to Gronkowski that turned into a 20+ yard scamper. a 5-yard quick slant from Welker that he turned into a 15 yard gain.


You act like he had Gronk and Hern for years. :lol::lol:

And he had Moss for one season only before Moss became Moss again. Outside of Welker, the TE's and his Oline what else is there? Their defense sucks, the rest of the wr core is average, and the running game is below average. Now, go compare that to what Eli has and get back to me.

Also, how many QB's do you know went on to win a SB in their second year? Outside of Ben i cant think of anyone. Troy Aikman had a shitload of talent too, he must be average. Elway was 0-3 in SB's before TD, the Oline, Neil Smith, etc came along. He must be average too.

The other thing that cracks me up is i love how you want to make Gronk and Hern HOF's but then sell the guy throwing them the ball short. Lovely. This board has become completely moronic at times. Where do you dolts crawl out from? Do you even pay attention to the games? :lol:

GEM
02-06-2012, 04:57 PM
WTE, I went online to ESPN and NFL Network to try to find the info, couldn't find it. I called my dad to see if he remembered watching it, he said it was on NFL Network. I couldn't find it though. The piece took some of his old footage and timed the play from snap to release. Then took recent footage and did the same thing. The difference was dramatic.

GEM
02-06-2012, 05:01 PM
Funny thing is....no matter who Brady throws to, he makes them a star. Kind of like Peyton Manning. It doesn't matter if it's Moss, Welker, Gronk, and whoever the guy is with the stupid wiping his hands endzone celebration....Brady doesn't skip a beat with any cast changes. That's on the one common, Brady, not the numerous denominators, receivers/TE's.

To try to take away what Brady has done is just silly. Whether we like the team or not, the guy went from being a 6th round nobody to one of the best football has ever seen.

GEM
02-06-2012, 05:03 PM
So Brady having arguably the best tight end duo EVER isn't talent? How many single-season records did Gronk and Hernandez break this season?

And Wes Welker, "Mister reliable," who led the NFL in receptions...He's not "talent?" Welker is a checkdown machine. Tom can always count on him for 5 yards pretty much whenever.

And in '07, Brady was throwing to the best receiver in the NFL at the time in Randy Moss. I'll give it to you that in '07, Brady was making some great deep throws.

But with this new look Patrios and the tight end machine they've become, Brady hardly throws the ball further than 15 yards. Seriously. Brady threw for over 5,000 yards this season, but nearly half of those were YAC yards. The Patriots had more yards after catch than any other NFL team in 20 years since the 1992 49ers. So Brady's big yardage numbers this season were kinda inflated. 8-yard in routes to Gronkowski that turned into a 20+ yard scamper. a 5-yard quick slant from Welker that he turned into a 15 yard gain.


The Patriots have been a great team for more than a decade. The more constant in their story is the QB, not the receivers.

Hate on the guy all ya want, but be honest in your arguments...you just don't like the guy.

TXBRONC
02-06-2012, 05:04 PM
I think Brady was given waaaay too much credit for one or two of his early career superbowl rings. Back then, before he was "Tom ******* Brady," he was nothing more than a game manager. The patriots had really good defenses for those early Brady superbowls, and Tom was asked to just manage the game and not make mistakes.

Take the 2004 SB against the Eagles. The Patriots defense (that had 3 pro bowlers btw) forced FOUR turnovers. 3 interceptions of McNaab, and one forced fumble and recovery. on 2 of those 4 turnovers the Patriots forced, Brady took over already in Eagles' territory. So it's not like Brady was leading epic, 80-yard drives or antyhing. Even when given 4 free possessions off turnovers, it wasn't like Brady put up big numbers. 236 yards, 2 touchdowns. Nothing special. Yet he was given MVP.

But in his last two superbowls in 07 and this year, when Tom Brady has since emerged as a super star, he's 0-2. This new look Patriots of the last 5 years is all built around Tom. 0-2. :)

I think last game did two things: make eli a first ballot hall of famer, and pretty much kill the "Tom Brady is the greatest QB that ever lived" talk :)

I disagree. Game managers do not quarterback a team to three Super Bowl wins in four years. It's rare for a game managers to win a Super Bowls.

WTE
02-06-2012, 05:05 PM
and whoever the guy is with the stupid wiping his hands endzone celebration.....

That's Aaron Hernandez' Making it Rain Endzone celebration. He has a couple different variations.

In this one he cracks a safe, grabs the money and makes it rain.

kABfyQ7IHQE

GEM
02-06-2012, 05:11 PM
That's why the team is hatable. They come off as cocky.....but if they were my team, I'd love it.

slim
02-06-2012, 05:13 PM
That's Aaron Hernandez' Making it Rain Endzone celebration. He has a couple different variations.

In this one he cracks a safe, grabs the money and makes it rain.

kABfyQ7IHQE

That is pretty gay.

skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 05:14 PM
Dude, I've hated Brady for years. He's up there with the yankees, the cowboys, and Lebron james. I just don't like the guy.

So the whole "your arguments are invalid" stuff is probably true, i don't really care. I'm reaching a ton, and I'm honestly just ranting for no reason. I'm a hater, so you know I'm gonna hate. LOL.

But Tom Brady lost his 2nd superbowl in a row last night, so i'm happy :D :)

GEM
02-06-2012, 05:15 PM
Dude, I've hated Brady for years. He's up there with the yankees, the cowboys, and Lebron james. I just don't like the guy.

So the whole "your arguments are invalid" stuff is probably true, i don't really care. I'm reaching a ton, and I'm honestly just ranting for no reason. I'm a hater, so you know I'm gonna hate. LOL.

But Tom Brady lost his 2nd superbowl in a row last night, so i'm happy :D :)

:laugh: It's good you just admitted it because it was blatantly obvious. :lol:

I hate that butt chinned buffoon as much as the next person....mostly because he's pretty damn good and I am jealous!

Nomad
02-06-2012, 05:17 PM
Listening to Doug Gottlieb on ESPNSR right now...... I guess I wasn't paying attention, but he brought up the Giants purposely had 12 men on the field towards the end of regulation and 9 seconds ran off the clock for the Patriots.

He's stating the NFL should revisit this and that the Patriots should of gotten the 9 seconds back due to the dead ball penalty.

I'm not sure of the rule but is he right?

skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 05:19 PM
:laugh: It's good you just admitted it because it was blatantly obvious. :lol:

I hate that butt chinned buffoon as much as the next person....mostly because he's pretty damn good and I am jealous!

Awww man, I've been trolling almost every forum I'm registered on all day about how overrated Brady is, when it's all just B.S. LOL

You're right though, the guy is a winner. And no matter how much I close my eyes and imagine otherwise, Brady will always have those rings. I'm just hoping he doesn't get anymore. :beer:

GEM
02-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Listening to Doug Gottlieb on ESPNSR right now...... I guess I wasn't paying attention, but he brought up the Giants purposely had 12 men on the field towards the end of regulation and 9 seconds ran off the clock for the Patriots.

He's stating the NFL should revisit this and that the Patriots should of gotten the 9 seconds back due to the dead ball penalty.

I'm not sure of the rule but is he right?

When that happened, I looked at my dad and said...that had to be planned, right? He said yep.

skins_fan82
02-06-2012, 05:31 PM
Yeah, there's no way a team brain farts like that with 12 guys on the field...not in the superbowl.

But then again The pats did it and erased what would've been an Eli interception lulz

HORSEPOWER 56
02-06-2012, 05:33 PM
Listening to Doug Gottlieb on ESPNSR right now...... I guess I wasn't paying attention, but he brought up the Giants purposely had 12 men on the field towards the end of regulation and 9 seconds ran off the clock for the Patriots.

He's stating the NFL should revisit this and that the Patriots should of gotten the 9 seconds back due to the dead ball penalty.

I'm not sure of the rule but is he right?

12 men on the field isn't a dead ball penalty. It's like an offsides on the defense. Play can continue and after the play is over they can decide to accept the penalty or take the play. Had the Pats scored on the play or gotten a big gain, I guarantee you they wouldn't have taken the penalty. The thing is, had the Pats completed a pass in bounds during the play then declined the penalty, the clock would've stopped anyway after the play because of the defensive infraction and it would've been a like a free timeout for them.

The same penalty cost the Pats a turnover earlier when the ball was stripped from Cruz on the 5 yd line. The play would've stood had the Pats not gotten the penalty and the time comes off the clock regardless.

Nomad
02-06-2012, 05:36 PM
12 men on the field isn't a dead ball penalty. It's like an offsides on the defense. Play can continue and after the play is over they can decide to accept the penalty or take the play. Had the Pats scored on the play or gotten a big gain, I guarantee you they wouldn't have taken the penalty. It's no different then it costing the Pats a turnover earlier when the ball was stripped from Cruz on the 5 yd line. They play would've stood had the Pats not gotten the penalty and the time comes off the clock.

Didn't know.....I was echoing what Doug was saying.