PDA

View Full Version : Who covers Gronkowski?



igoe4broncos
12-12-2011, 04:24 PM
The dude is a dang beast. I would say Champ, but someone has to hold Branch and Welker too. Going to be a very tough matchup, and could very well decide the game.

Northman
12-12-2011, 04:25 PM
Ill do it. Getting my tickets for the flight now.

vandammage13
12-12-2011, 04:28 PM
Unfortunately I don't think we have anyone that can cover him....I think our only chance is going to be a successful ball control offense (and that means being successful in the first 3 quarters) to limit the Pat's possessions.

Not necessarily scoring tons of points, but just eating up a lot of clock to keep that Pat's O off the field....That means no 3 and outs.

Northman
12-12-2011, 04:30 PM
Its going to take that and stopping Green-Ellis and Woody. Its going to be hard enough to contain their passing attack but if we let them run on us its only going to be that much harder. We did a very poor job of shutting down the Bears running attack and only got lucky that Hanie couldnt hit the broadside of a barn on most occasions. We have to make NE one dimensional.

vandammage13
12-12-2011, 04:36 PM
Its going to take that and stopping Green-Ellis and Woody. Its going to be hard enough to contain their passing attack but if we let them run on us its only going to be that much harder. We did a very poor job of shutting down the Bears running attack and only got lucky that Hanie couldnt hit the broadside of a barn on most occasions. We have to make NE one dimensional.

I could be underestimating them, but I don't think we'll have any problem containing their run game...

Other than ball control, I think the most important key to winning will be whether or not we can get pressure on Brady.

Brady's not the same guy when you can manage to make him uncomfortable in the pocket. Not an easy task (especially considering the refs employ the Michael Jordan rule on Brady), but I have seen teams that beat the Pats usually are able to get pressure on Brady.

G_Money
12-12-2011, 04:39 PM
Woodyard, DJ or Dawk. That's just how it's gonna have to be. Woodyard can run with him but is WAY smaller, as is Dawkins. But you've got the same problem when towering WRs come to town - just make Brady make perfect throws to beat you, and for God's sake TACKLE THE BIG MAN.

That was disgraceful by the 'Skins.

~G

wayninja
12-12-2011, 04:54 PM
The same dude that covered Tanya Harding, hopefully.

weazel
12-12-2011, 04:55 PM
Bibi Jones

NameUsedBefore
12-12-2011, 04:58 PM
Who covers the Patriots receivers?

The guys sacking Brady.

slim
12-12-2011, 04:59 PM
Where is Sam Brandon?

:bignickel:

dogfish
12-12-2011, 05:02 PM
nobody-- at least not if you're asking who's going to match up with him one on one. . . he's such a mismatch, you have to mix coverages and get creative. . . if our top three safeties are healthy, we could bust out a big nickel-- i think Q carter matches up best with gronk out of our group. . . doubt we'll do that, though. . . i think you have to use some zones against him, but we do play a lot of man. . . IMO, our best bet is to use a similar startegy to what we played against indy last year, when we isolated champ on reggie wayne and doubled dallas clark all over the field. . . i'd let champ play the slot the entire game if need be to keep him on welker-- then bump gronk on the line with one of our 'backers, who then trails him with safety help over the top. . . something like that. . . i'd give him as much attention as it takes-- with champ on welker, the pats don't have any receivers to beat you out wide. . . those TEs need to be the major focus of our game plan. . .

but as always, the best way to beat brady is to put him on his ass-- if you can do that early and often, it's significantly more effective than almost anything you can do in coverage. . .

NightTerror218
12-12-2011, 05:08 PM
i think Champ on Welker and spy a safety on hit at all times. But if we have constant pressure on Brady that should make things harder. He seems to always have forever in the pocket. But if you can piss off Brady he plays worse.

NightTerror218
12-12-2011, 05:09 PM
Its going to take that and stopping Green-Ellis and Woody. Its going to be hard enough to contain their passing attack but if we let them run on us its only going to be that much harder. We did a very poor job of shutting down the Bears running attack and only got lucky that Hanie couldnt hit the broadside of a barn on most occasions. We have to make NE one dimensional.

That happened when Dawkins went out of the game. Barber got longer runs. I think Mays needs to step it up in the middle on the runs.

BORDERLINE
12-12-2011, 05:09 PM
Pass rush will be huge in this game. Another key in my eyes is for the defense to keep everything in front on them. Von and Doom need to put pressure on Brady. The Pats run game is nothing to fear. We have our work cut out for us but I feel good about our chances in this one.

NightTerror218
12-12-2011, 05:26 PM
I think this could be the one game on the schedule we could get beat badly. Harris did fairly well against Antonio Gates in SD. VJ was shut out by Champ. We could do the same thing. But the deep threat of Branch with Goodman on his scares me and Harris on Gronkowski. I think if we have a lot of pressure there is going to be a lot of slants and screens/check downs. Welker will be key in the slant with those short slants over the middle or in Von Millers gap when blitzing.

UnderArmour
12-12-2011, 05:37 PM
We can win this game only if we can play all four quarters and score like crazy in all four quarters. I'm not sure our defense can hold up against this team. The Patriots D will be the worst defense we have played this entire year.

LTC Pain
12-12-2011, 05:41 PM
Anyone but Rahim Moore because that boy hasn't yet learned to tackle.

rcsodak
12-12-2011, 05:41 PM
Pass rush will be huge in this game. Another key in my eyes is for the defense to keep everything in front on them. Von and Doom need to put pressure on Brady. The Pats run game is nothing to fear. We have our work cut out for us but I feel good about our chances in this one.
Theyre prolly saying the same thing about denver's run game.
But chi didnt miss a beat without forte, so EVERY run game should put some fear in you.

Mobile Post via http://Mobile.BroncosForums.com/forums

elsid13
12-12-2011, 05:41 PM
Gronk is going to get his, we need to ensure that no one else does and beat up on Brady when we have the chance....

NightTerror218
12-12-2011, 05:47 PM
I would laugh if Brady sits this game. Broncos have injured 3 QBs this season and knocked 1 out for the season. Broncos are killers of QBs, risk Brady this game?


Ah, man I love to dream. Miami and Buffalo are last 2 games, not as scary for a QB to take hits from.

LTC Pain
12-12-2011, 05:54 PM
Put Chris Harris on his ass!

BORDERLINE
12-12-2011, 08:20 PM
Theyre prolly saying the same thing about denver's run game.
But chi didnt miss a beat without forte, so EVERY run game should put some fear in you.

Mobile Post via http://Mobile.BroncosForums.com/forums

We have one of the strongest running game in the NFL. It wasn't like the Bears had some 3rd string RB out there Barber is a quality back.

wayninja
12-12-2011, 09:43 PM
I would laugh if Brady sits this game. Broncos have injured 3 QBs this season and knocked 1 out for the season. Broncos are killers of QBs, risk Brady this game?


Ah, man I love to dream. Miami and Buffalo are last 2 games, not as scary for a QB to take hits from.

Hahaha, Brady aint sitting unless we force it.

tomjonesrocks
12-12-2011, 11:33 PM
I tend to agree that it's really hard to envision defeating the Pats. Even after all the miracles of the past several weeks.

I thought Chicago had the potential to be the first "easy" win of the year and it was anything but. They need to cook up one hell of a gameplan to have any chance at all IMO. Obviously they'd have to eat up the clock like crazy and keep Brady off the field. I hope McGahee's not gassed--he did not look good last week.

And no fumbles this week, Tim.

No shame in getting pounded by the Pats though. If it happens, there's your yardstick--you know just how far you are away from being a real contender.

Joel
12-12-2011, 11:50 PM
DJ and/or Woodyard. Been thinking about this for a while (despite worrying about the Bears all week) and that's the only answer I see. Dawkins is more of a run stuffer and blitzer now that he's slowed down (and I don't know the status of the neck injury that took him out of Sundays game.) All our other safeties are garbage. We'll probably need Harris for their slot man, or possibly even their #2 since Goodman is supposed to have a concussion, but he would be my next choice; he has the speed and coverage, but I don't like the size matchup.

Day1BroncoFan
12-12-2011, 11:55 PM
We need to have a great day on defense but the key is our offense needs to step up, keep up and pass up. The offense needs to do there job for all 4 quarters.

WARHORSE
12-13-2011, 06:18 AM
Champ on Gronk.

He will not catch a thing.

While Gronk is a beast and is athletic for a big man, he will not get the ball with Champ on him, he simply doesnt have the ability to separate from him enough to get it done.

If Champ is on Gronk, I dont believe he'll get more than 2 catches and they wont be worth anything. No touchdowns, and no big plays.

Welker must be jammed and doubled sporadically.

Branch can be handled by Goody or one of the rooks, and he wont kill us.

The run game wont kill us.

Our ability to rush Brady with four is going to kill them.

Not only can we rush with four, but Brady is going to be amazed at how little time he has.

Von Rip Miller will be on him in a flash.

They will be trying to chip him all game.

sneakers
12-13-2011, 06:35 AM
That one porn star he was with.

threefolddead
12-13-2011, 07:47 AM
No one covers Gronkowski that's why he is breaking records so you gotta shut down Brady, and to do that year after year we see all you gotta do is get in his face. The moment the pressure gets there he doesn't play as well so we gotta bring it! The Pats are more beatable this year than they have been in a long time.

TXBRONC
12-13-2011, 07:55 AM
The better question is who is going pull a Nancy Kerrigan on his knee? :ponder:

Chef Zambini
12-13-2011, 08:59 AM
Put TEBOW on the gronk ! TT can do anything !

rcsodak
12-13-2011, 10:17 AM
We have one of the strongest running game in the NFL. It wasn't like the Bears had some 3rd string RB out there Barber is a quality back.
The MO of the FO was to take away the run and make Hanie beat em.

Ummm....they avg'd over 4ypc.
Ate up alot of clock and 159yds.

And Martz is their OC.

The week prior, a backup rb who was avg'g 2.9ypc damn near ran for 100 and also raised his avg.

Woody and 'the law firm' have the ability to do damage. And then brady has the play action along with more time in the pocket.

Hardly the team to take for granted.

Mobile Post via http://Mobile.BroncosForums.com/forums

rcsodak
12-13-2011, 10:21 AM
Champ on Gronk.

He will not catch a thing.

While Gronk is a beast and is athletic for a big man, he will not get the ball with Champ on him, he simply doesnt have the ability to separate from him enough to get it done.

If Champ is on Gronk, I dont believe he'll get more than 2 catches and they wont be worth anything. No touchdowns, and no big plays.

Welker must be jammed and doubled sporadically.

Branch can be handled by Goody or one of the rooks, and he wont kill us.

The run game wont kill us.

Our ability to rush Brady with four is going to kill them.

Not only can we rush with four, but Brady is going to be amazed at how little time he has.

Von Rip Miller will be on him in a flash.

They will be trying to chip him all game.

Lol......*ring* *ring*

Thats youre alarm clock.....time to quit dreaming...... :lol:

Mobile Post via http://Mobile.BroncosForums.com/forums

Angel
12-13-2011, 03:35 PM
Going to be tough to cover Gronk, go after Brady and knock his block off.

D1g1tal j1m
12-13-2011, 03:40 PM
Hope that the Pats tackles can't handle Doom and Miller and make them keep the TE at the line to help block them. That's the only real way to stop Hernandez and Gronk, they are too talented and a total mismatch for our D when out in the passing game. Make one of them a blocker on each play and you cut your nightmare in half.

DenBronx
12-13-2011, 03:43 PM
I don't know but Josina Anderson just reported that we just activated CB Tony Carter off of the practice squad.


This isnt good news because I feel that they don't think Dawkins is going to be active.

DenBronx
12-13-2011, 03:45 PM
The dude is a dang beast. I would say Champ, but someone has to hold Branch and Welker too. Going to be a very tough matchup, and could very well decide the game.

Champ on Welk, Goodman on Branch and Safety & LB help with Gronk.


But NE has way too many weapons, someones going to have to step up big time in the secondary. Bailey is due for a pick 6 and VonDoom need to play lights out for us to have a chance.

Joel
12-13-2011, 06:38 PM
I don't know but Josina Anderson just reported that we just activated CB Tony Carter off of the practice squad.

This isnt good news because I feel that they don't think Dawkins is going to be active.
Could go either way, remember Goodman had a concussion Sunday, too. Half our starting secondary (which wasn't great to begin) checked out of the game a week before the Pats. Awesome. :(

BroncoWave
12-13-2011, 07:38 PM
I don't know but Josina Anderson just reported that we just activated CB Tony Carter off of the practice squad.


This isnt good news because I feel that they don't think Dawkins is going to be active.

I've read Dawk should be good to go this week. They probably activated Carter because of Goodman's concussion.

hamrob
12-13-2011, 11:16 PM
Pressure on Brady
Jam the receivers
Play physical with Gronk

There offense is better than ours in most situations
Our defense is better than theirs period
Our special teams are better than theirs

We can win this game!!!

HORSEPOWER 56
12-13-2011, 11:36 PM
I'd bracket Gronkowski with DJ and a Safety (Dawkins if he's GTG). Little to no man-to-man coverage against him. If he does catch the ball, I'd have guys knocking the shit out of him - I mean hitting him hard - clean and legal, but hard.

Champ should shadow Welker and the rest of the matchups will fall where they may. Goodman is a decent cover guy most of the time and Harris is doing pretty well (at least he makes the tackle if his man catches the ball) if Goodman can't go. If they go double TE, I'd probably man up either Carter or Moore (and threaten Moore with the bench if he can't get it done) with Hernandez. We also have Wilhite as our ace-in-the-hole to give us all the inner workings of their offense... :lol:

The NE TEs have a pretty significant size advantage over our Safeties and LBs so that pass rush will be critical. The philosophies will probably be completely different. NE will try to stop the run and force us to pass and we'll be trying to stop Brady to force them to beat us with BJGE and Woodhead running the ball. Fortunately, we have speedy, sideline-to-sideline LBs.

I don't know how we're going to slow down their offense, but I do know that our offense can't afford to go 3 and out for 3 quarters and hope to pull off a miraculous comeback at the end. We need to force some 3 and outs and capitalize with long, sustained scoring drives.

Joel
12-14-2011, 12:58 AM
I'd bracket Gronkowski with DJ and a Safety (Dawkins if he's GTG). Little to no man-to-man coverage against him. If he does catch the ball, I'd have guys knocking the shit out of him - I mean hitting him hard - clean and legal, but hard.
Good plan, as long as it doesn't leave someone else open. Another advantage to blitzing enough they're forced to keep at least one TE blocking, as others have suggested.

Champ should shadow Welker and the rest of the matchups will fall where they may. Goodman is a decent cover guy most of the time and Harris is doing pretty well (at least he makes the tackle if his man catches the ball) if Goodman can't go. If they go double TE, I'd probably man up either Carter or Moore (and threaten Moore with the bench if he can't get it done) with Hernandez. We also have Wilhite as our ace-in-the-hole to give us all the inner workings of their offense... :lol:
Goodman is one of those guys more interested in picks than preventing catches, but with secondary contact all but banned that's pretty much the norm now. At this point I have more confidence in Harris; I'd LMFAO if Goodman had a few picks and took one or two back for six, but I don't expect that unless Doom and Miller are really harrying Brady (and Goodman plays, which looks doubtful now.) If we're forced to use Moore (which is quite likely) I'd threaten him with banishment to a Kroger loading bay rather than the bench; the bench has clearly not done the job.

However, I'm afraid we're going to run out of decent coverage men (long) before they run out of great receivers, and Goodman and Dawkins being dinged up only increases that risk.

The NE TEs have a pretty significant size advantage over our Safeties and LBs so that pass rush will be critical. The philosophies will probably be completely different. NE will try to stop the run and force us to pass and we'll be trying to stop Brady to force them to beat us with BJGE and Woodhead running the ball. Fortunately, we have speedy, sideline-to-sideline LBs.
Yeah, no one's mentioned it, but we'll have to contain the outside run, which we do inconsisently; if WE end up having to stack the box Brady will go nuts on us.

I think it will have to be Broncos Time in the first quarter, and Fox will have to dispense with this "we're going to let their D attack our offense then react" garbage. Good grief, people in Bolivia know how the Pats (and every other team) will defend us until we show we can pass well before the 2:00 warning. Offenses attack, they don't get attacked: That's why the're called "offenses." :rolleyes:

I don't know how we're going to slow down their offense, but I do know that our offense can't afford to go 3 and out for 3 quarters and hope to pull off a miraculous comeback at the end. We need to force some 3 and outs and capitalize with long, sustained scoring drives.
I'd settle for multiple scoring drives before the fourth quarter (ideally, before the second.) I'm trying to remember the last time we scored more than 7 points in the first half; was it the Raiders game?

wayninja
12-14-2011, 01:36 AM
Pressure on Brady
Jam the receivers
Play physical with Gronk

There offense is better than ours in most situations
Our defense is better than theirs period
Our special teams are better than theirs

We can win this game!!!

The only problem with this is that the deck is stacked in favor of offense. Our defense being better than theirs is much less meaningful than their offense being better than ours.

If we want to win this thing, we better score on most possessions. Even Field goals are ok, but we can't have dropped passes or 3 and outs.

VonSackemMiller
12-14-2011, 02:15 AM
im hoping we can get physical with him off the line with whoevers covering him and jam him good enough for the pressure to get to brady. Other than that id ont see anybody covering the guy allday with success.

bcbronc
12-14-2011, 02:25 AM
I'm not sure Champ on Welker is a great idea. I don't think Champ can handle Welker 1 on 1...I know Champ is great, but he has lost half a step. Last week Knox was getting separation on Champ, and Welker is 1000x the receiver Knox is.

I agree with putting Champ on Gronk. Gronk still has a size mismatch on Champ, but Champ can tackle and should be able to keep the passing windows pretty small.

Use a double team vs Welker. Probably Harris playing bump, with help either to the inside from a LB or over the top from a S.

Branch isn't nearly the match up problem Welker and Gronk are. Good receiver, but you can't gameplan for everyone. Hernandez will also be trouble, especially if Champ is on Gronk and Welker is double teamed. He'll likely see some one on ones vs DJ/Woodyard or a S.

NE just has too many talented options to completely shut down their passing game. The real key will be getting heat on Brady and keeping his ass stapled to the bench.

VonSackemMiller
12-14-2011, 02:48 AM
I like champ vs welker if he gets physical with him. Bump and run allday. Remember what the steelers did to welker? bump and run allday knocking him around and pitt dont got a corner thats half as good as champ bailey. Pitt set the blueprint. Jam all there weapons and hope the pressure gets to brady.

bcbronc
12-14-2011, 04:38 AM
I like champ vs welker if he gets physical with him. Bump and run allday. Remember what the steelers did to welker? bump and run allday knocking him around and pitt dont got a corner thats half as good as champ bailey. Pitt set the blueprint. Jam all there weapons and hope the pressure gets to brady.

I could be wrong, but I thought Pitt doubled Welker that game? Bumping him at the line, but having help? Because Welker does so much quick cut underneath stuff, he's tough for any CB to take man up. But because he's a bit smallish, play him physical and have Harris force Welker to release to where his double team is and it should disrupt the timing that's so key to Brady and Welker's success.

Problem if you leave Champ on Welker and then find out that you still need to double Welker, you then have a double team on Welker but don't have Champ one on one with someone else. I like the idea of Champ on Gronk/Harris + Help on Welker more than Champ on Welker/who + who? on Gronk.

Clipworthy
12-14-2011, 03:49 PM
Champ is great but cmon now... gronk is half a foot taller, that's not a good matchup

NightTerror218
12-14-2011, 07:15 PM
Champ is great but cmon now... gronk is half a foot taller, that's not a good matchup

How about a Dj williams should/helmet into his chest at full speed and then a Von Miller on the back side hit?

bcbronc
12-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Champ is great but cmon now... gronk is half a foot taller, that's not a good matchup

lol, there is no good match up, probably why the OP made the thread.

Medford Bronco
12-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Unfortunately I don't think we have anyone that can cover him....I think our only chance is going to be a successful ball control offense (and that means being successful in the first 3 quarters) to limit the Pat's possessions.

Not necessarily scoring tons of points, but just eating up a lot of clock to keep that Pat's O off the field....That means no 3 and outs.

We must put pressure on Brady. The only times in his career that he ever struggles is against a defense that gets to the QB for 4 or 5 man rush. The Giants did it and the Jets have done it in the past as well. Gronk has to be bumped at the LOS. No free releases. Von Miller and Dumervil have to have big days and it would help if DJ Williams continues his much improved play as of late.

getlynched47
12-15-2011, 12:55 AM
We can't match up with the Patriots receivers. If you lock Champ on Welker, and double-team Gronkowski, then I guarantee you that Aaron Hernandez will have a huge day.

If not one of those three, bet your ass that Chad Ocho Cinco or Tiquan Underwood will hurt us.

If we blitz Tom Brady, he'll hit his screens and checkdowns all game long. If we sit back in zone or man coverage, he'll pick our defense apart.

The only way we win is if we match the Patriots touchdown-for-touchdown and force a turnover or two on defense.

Chef Zambini
12-15-2011, 09:27 AM
Champ is great but cmon now... gronk is half a foot taller, that's not a good matchuptrue but against gronk, champ wpould play the ball, not the man.
he will not be so concerned about gronk getting behind him, he will take angles and even TRAIL to make a play on the ball! champ on welker?
champ is NOT a bumb and run guy, he RARELY takes on his assignment at the LOS. Instead he plays technique.
I like hittting welker at the LOS, then releasing him to another.
if goodman does play, let him BLITZ, he sucks as a cover corner and at least as a blitzer her can surprise and be productive.
keep dawkins in the box, if he is GTG, the pats run game is no joke, and occasionally we can blitz him up the a gap to disrupt brady!
"ATTACK THE PASS AT THE POINT OF ORIGIN"
all those who express the need to get in bradys face are on the right track.
champ on the gronk would be a bold move, but it could work.
DJ is my alternative, perhaps even a mix of both to help confuse brady on our zones and coverage.
DJ came out of college ready willing and able to cover the NFLs best TEs.
Now he can challenge the best.

denverfaninmass
12-15-2011, 10:14 AM
On Defense:
The only way that is effective is to be physical with the tight ends and receivers at the line of scrimmage, Their offense is based on timing paterns, this will disrupt their patterns. Also disguise coverages, this is a must as they are great at adjustments. You can not blitz a lot as Brady will eat us alive. Only rush 3 at times or 4 at times the rest go into coverage but disguised, we must be effective at these 3 to 4 rushes. Also some of the rushes need to be through the middle to not allow Brady comfortable pocket presence. There is no way to cover Gronk one on one, this is where the disguising comes into play.

On Offense:
Use the clock, with different rushing plays, which will create big plays for the play action passes. Must change things up to keep them guessing. Patriots play a lot of zone as they can not cover man to man, so on the play action there will be holes for sure in their zone, must make precise throws and must be caught. As a note people have been have not been respecting their defense, yes their coverage is not that great, but they are very stingy at allowing teams to score. They allow a lot of yards between the 20's but are tough in the red zone.

The offense must be creative, this is where we need to pull out some suprises

This must happen for all 4 quarters for a chance to win this game

Ravage!!!
12-15-2011, 12:32 PM
We can't match up with the Patriots receivers. If you lock Champ on Welker, and double-team Gronkowski, then I guarantee you that Aaron Hernandez will have a huge day.

If not one of those three, bet your ass that Chad Ocho Cinco or Tiquan Underwood will hurt us.

If we blitz Tom Brady, he'll hit his screens and checkdowns all game long. If we sit back in zone or man coverage, he'll pick our defense apart.

The only way we win is if we match the Patriots touchdown-for-touchdown and force a turnover or two on defense.

So how did the Washington Redskins keep them in check? They haven't been "unstoppable" all season with their defense as it is.

They don't have great WRs. Welker is their best, and their TE is a stud for sure. But the rest haven't proved to be soemone that you have to be worried about.

Brady is a GREAT player. This is not going to be an easy match up. I can't believe that I even feel we have a chance with the way our offense has been playing, but this Patriots team proved last week that even Washington can keep up with them (although that has a lot to do with Shanahan's game planning).

Our team is actually built to be a team like the Patriots. Run run run, and defense.

elsid13
12-15-2011, 02:10 PM
So how did the Washington Redskins keep them in check? They haven't been "unstoppable" all season with their defense as it is.

They don't have great WRs. Welker is their best, and their TE is a stud for sure. But the rest haven't proved to be soemone that you have to be worried about.

Brady is a GREAT player. This is not going to be an easy match up. I can't believe that I even feel we have a chance with the way our offense has been playing, but this Patriots team proved last week that even Washington can keep up with them (although that has a lot to do with Shanahan's game planning).

Our team is actually built to be a team like the Patriots. Run run run, and defense.

I watched that game, Brady was off all day and wasn't because something the Skin's defense did. Shanahan was ready from them on offense but like always if was dependent on the PA and WR getting free. Gronk and Welker will get their yards, Denver needs to continue to have long drives and eat up the clock to keep NE offense on the sidelines, and when they are playing defense to go after Brady heavy. It going to be tough game.

EastCoastBronco
12-15-2011, 03:11 PM
Not sure if we have the personnel to cover this *******.
He's like a giant economy size version of Tebow...;-)

Joel
12-16-2011, 08:35 AM
Honestly, guys, the more I look at this the more it looks like our only hope is to be successful in one on one coverage, despite the fact that, as ESPN put it, we'll probably have three rookies starting in our secondary. One on one coverage is still our only realistic choice because a basic principle of NEs offense is "throw to whoever isn't double covered." With all the weapons they have at receiver, that's a good strategy.

Welker, Branch, Johnson, Gronkowski and Hernandez

What do we do, double cover all of them, rush 1 guy on Brady and hope Green-Ellis breaks both legs during his first TD dance?

Probably our best bet is Champ on Welker, Goodman/Harris on Branch (depending on whether Goodman plays,) DJ on Gronkowski and Dawkins (assuming HE plays) helping all of them with zone coverage deep. Then we'd have to blitz Brady enough he's forced to keep a TE as a blocker, but with Mankins and Light holding down his left side that won't be easy. Do all that and NE could STILL beat us with Green-Ellis and/or Chad Johnson.

Our real best hope is for our offense to finally function like a well oiled machine for four quarters instead of just one, but I'm frankly not optimistic.

Chef Zambini
12-16-2011, 09:54 AM
blitzes up the a-gap.
champ and DJ alternate on the gronk
welker gets molested at the LOS on every play, they will have to put him in motion to keep him healthy.
TEBOW must be a part of the run game EARLY !
ER needs to come out of hiding.
this should be a pretty good game, I just might watch.

Joel
12-16-2011, 11:14 AM
blitzes up the a-gap.
champ and DJ alternate on the gronk
welker gets molested at the LOS on every play, they will have to put him in motion to keep him healthy.
TEBOW must be a part of the run game EARLY !
ER needs to come out of hiding.
this should be a pretty good game, I just might watch.
You MIGHT watch your team in a possible playoff preview? Serves you right that you get the Browns and Cardinals:
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk15.html
Regarding Royal, whether he's back from his concussion depends on whether you ask us or Pats fans:
http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/12/15/2639020/broncos-nfl-injury-report-week-15
http://boston.sbnation.com/new-england-patriots/2011/12/14/2636608/new-england-patriots-vs-broncos-injury-report-week-15-brian-dawkins-andre-goodman-david-bruton
I'm more worried about us potentially missing 2 safeties and a CB. Tebow needs 2-3 TD passes and enough completions to sustain drives so Brady stays off the field.