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broncofaninfla
01-12-2009, 09:40 AM
Has anbody heard what time the official press conference will be? VERY curious to see if McD elaborates on his staff especially the DC :salute:

Traveler
01-12-2009, 09:45 AM
Has anbody heard what time the official press conference will be? VERY curious to see if McD elaborates on his staff especially the DC :salute:

Beat me to it.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 11:34 AM
Still only 9:30 out there, but this is all it says on the website.


Broncos, McDaniels Agree to Terms

DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- On Sunday, the Broncos confirmed that they have agreed to terms with Josh McDaniels to become the franchise’s 12th head coach.

The team will have more information on Monday.

Requiem / The Dagda
01-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Good thing it's blizzard like here and I'm going to wait until the afternoon to go refill my meds. What a great day to be a Broncos fan!

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Am interested in clues as to who will be the GM as well.

broncofaninfla
01-12-2009, 11:44 AM
Just got the text the press conference will be at 5pm

lex
01-12-2009, 11:49 AM
Can someone just let me know if someone throws something? Thanks.

G_Money
01-12-2009, 11:50 AM
Just got the text the press conference will be at 5pm

Eastern Time?

Mountain?

GMT?

Help a guy out…

~G

Requiem / The Dagda
01-12-2009, 11:53 AM
According to Denver Broncos.com, the Press Conference will be at 5:00 PM (MST).

frauschieze
01-12-2009, 11:53 AM
7 hours? Man.

Requiem / The Dagda
01-12-2009, 11:54 AM
7 hours? Man.

That is all we need baby, I promise.

broncofaninfla
01-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Eastern Time?

Mountain?

GMT?

Help a guy out…

~G

Sorry, Mountain Time.

broncofaninfla
01-12-2009, 01:50 PM
Sure hope they say we are keeping Turner and Bates and elaborate of our defensive scheme.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-12-2009, 01:53 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8763

Broncos to Introduce McDaniels

DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The Denver Broncos on Monday will introduce Josh McDaniels as head coach at a 5 p.m. MST press conference at their training facility, President/CEO Pat Bowlen announced.

The 32-year-old McDaniels has agreed to a four-year contract to become the 12th head coach in Broncos history.

McDaniels spent the last eight seasons (2001-08) on the coaching staff of the New England Patriots, helping the franchise win three Super Bowls, four AFC championships and six division titles en route to posting the NFL’s best overall record (111-34 / .766) during that time. He was the Patriots’ offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach during the previous three years (2006-08), directing an offense that led the NFL in points per game (28.8) while ranking second in the league in yards per game (370.8) and third in fewest turnovers (63) over that stretch.

McDaniels worked as New England’s quarterbacks coach from 2004-05 after serving as a coaching assistant for the club from 2002-03 and as a personnel assistant/coaching assistant in 2001. His coaching career began in 1999 as a graduate assistant at Michigan State University.

Despite a season-ending injury to starting quarterback Tom Brady in Week 1, New England’s 2008 offense finished the year with an NFL-best 356 first downs and ranked fifth in the league in yards per game (365.4) under McDaniels. His coaching helped backup quarterback Matt Cassel, who became a starter for the first time since high school, total the eighth-most passing yards (3,693) in the league.

In 2007, McDaniels coached on a Patriots team that was the first in NFL history to post a 16-0 regular-season record and advanced to Super Bowl XLII. McDaniels’ offense was one of the most productive in NFL history with the Patriots setting league records for points scored (589 / 36.8 ppg.) and touchdowns (75). Individually, Brady set an NFL single-season record for touchdown passes (50) to earn MVP honors while wide receiver Randy Moss caught the most touchdowns (23) for a season in league annals.

The Patriots won Super Bowls with McDaniels on their staff during the 2001 (XXXVI), ’03 (XXXVIII) and ’04 (XXXIX) seasons.

McDaniels played quarterback and wide receiver at John Carroll University (University Heights, Ohio) from 1995-98 after finishing his prep career at Canton McKinley High School (Canton, Ohio).

Born on April 22, 1976, in Barberton, Ohio, McDaniels and his wife, Laura, have one son, Jack Thomas, and one daughter, Maddie.

Nomad
01-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Do they usually air these press conferences on ESPNNEWS, NFLN or FSRM!

NightTrainLayne
01-12-2009, 01:59 PM
Do they usually air these press conferences on ESPNNEWS, NFLN or FSRM!

I bet it's on NFLN at least. Prolly ESPNNEWS as well.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 02:00 PM
Do they usually air these press conferences on ESPNNEWS, NFLN or FSRM!

I bet it will be shown on NFLN.

Traveler
01-12-2009, 02:18 PM
I bet it will be shown on NFLN.

Take that to the bank.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Take that to the bank.

I would if it drew interest. :D

BroncoWave
01-12-2009, 03:20 PM
Shit, I'm back at college now, I don't get NFLN anymore! :mad:

WARHORSE
01-12-2009, 03:33 PM
Im hoping Im impressed when I hear the kids squeeky voice come from his squeeky mouth.

Is it possible to be impressed by a coach with a squeeky voice?


Im hoping he opens his mouth to reveal to us a DEEEEP BASS that shakes the socks down to the tops of the shoes.



Knowing Frauchiese, she might quiver a little right then and there, and whisper, " Broncos baby!"


:salute:

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Shit, I'm back at college now, I don't get NFLN anymore! :mad:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP~Nelson-Posters.jpg

P.S. I don't either.

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Im hoping Im impressed when I hear the kids squeeky voice come from his squeeky mouth.

Is it possible to be impressed by a coach with a squeeky voice?


Im hoping he opens his mouth to reveal to us a DEEEEP BASS that shakes the socks down to the tops of the shoes.


Huh? Shanny failed to sound like James Earl Jones and won a couple SBs. Maybe this is a joke.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Huh? Shanny failed to sound like James Earl Jones and won a couple SBs. Maybe this is a joke.

no he just had a darth vadar look..:laugh:

frauschieze
01-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Knowing Frauschieze, she might quiver a little right then and there, and whisper, " Broncos baby!"


:salute:

I might. McDaniels is kinda cute in his sweatshirt.

JONtheBRONCO
01-12-2009, 03:58 PM
anyone have a link?

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 04:29 PM
anyone have a link?

I'm sure it will be on www.denverbroncos.com.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 06:47 PM
McDaniel's press conference is getting ready to start if you are interested.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=349&videoID=2816&type=broncosTV&year=&month=

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 06:49 PM
Thank TXBRONC. I was wondering if I was going to be able to find a live feed.

BroncoBJ
01-12-2009, 06:52 PM
:elefant: I'm getting excited. I was 6 years old the last time we hired a new coach :lol:
I've been waiting for this all day. Damn.. I need to get a hobby or something. :eek:

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 06:53 PM
Thank TXBRONC. I was wondering if I was going to be able to find a live feed.

You're welcome. :salute:

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 06:59 PM
FWIW, a fairly repuitable poster at the Mane said that Bowlen is about to drop a bomb at the press conference...beats the heck out of me, but I've been told he actually does know someone in Dove Valley, or something of the sort...

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 06:59 PM
Mile High Sports Radio 104.3 The Fan

http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?StationId=33298&

dogfish
01-12-2009, 07:01 PM
FWIW, a fairly repuitable poster at the Mane said that Bowlen is about to drop a bomb at the press conference...beats the heck out of me, but I've been told he actually does know someone in Dove Valley, or something of the sort...


so we're trading cutler and bringing in cassel?



:confused:

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:02 PM
so we're trading cutler and bringing in cassel?



:confused:

:noidea:

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:03 PM
I bet I can kick his ass.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-12-2009, 07:04 PM
Live streaming here

http://cbs4denver.com/

Sabres39
01-12-2009, 07:04 PM
McDaniels likes to Mcsmack his lips. That already annoys me.

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:06 PM
They'll be tough, smart and prepared.

Everyone will be accountable.

Evaluation on everyone starts today.

Precise in every phase.

I love this guy.

Thank you Pat for getting the guy I wanted.

Jaws
01-12-2009, 07:06 PM
McDaniels likes to Mcsmack his lips. That already annoys me.

Lol yeah.
Though he's calming down a bit now.

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm gonna have to get a transcript of this somewhere...can't hear the questions.

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:13 PM
He referred to meeting with the coaches still on staff, but it doesn't sound like anyone has asked him about Bates/Turner/Dennison.

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:13 PM
One day we'll' be able to watch a presser and actually hear the questions being asked.

frauschieze
01-12-2009, 07:14 PM
One day we'll' be able to watch a presser and actually hear the questions being asked.

That technology does not exist yet and may never. :rolleyes:

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:15 PM
One day we'll' be able to watch a presser and actually hear the questions being asked.

Very hard to mic-up if they aren't in a studio, and it would take forever if you had someone roving around with a mic. And I imagine there are a lot of press there tonight.

Sabres39
01-12-2009, 07:15 PM
Wish I could hear some of the questions.

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:15 PM
His answers and the way he answers are more important.

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:15 PM
I think a few organizations have actually done a decent job in recent years of passing a mic around the room. Doesn't look like the Broncos have gotten the memo on that one yet.

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:16 PM
He said he will be calling the plays.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:16 PM
One day we'll' be able to watch a presser and actually hear the questions being asked.

one of these days they will think about those of us out in the real world..

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:17 PM
His answers and the way he answers are more important.
Oh, I agree, but I'd still like to hear what he's being asked.

Den21vsBal19
01-12-2009, 07:18 PM
Wish I could hear some of the questions.
It is slightly irritating, trying to guess the question from the answer.................

I want to watch a press conference, not Jeopardy

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:19 PM
one of these days they will think about those of us out in the real world..


some of these clowns ask 45 second question and he comes back with a sure as a response.....

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:19 PM
Geesh a "cheating" question...

Cheez Whiz
01-12-2009, 07:20 PM
He said he will be calling the plays.

Jeremy Bates is a goner. :Cry:

That sucks.

horsesense
01-12-2009, 07:20 PM
One day we'll' be able to watch a presser and actually hear the questions being asked.

it couldn't be worse if the news were being brought in by pigeons.

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:21 PM
I'm impressed with him. I can see why Pat warmed up to him so quickly.

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:23 PM
He said he will sit down with the coaches in the next day or so and decisions will be made on who stays.

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:23 PM
He said that Jay will enjoy working in "this" system, it is very QB friendly.

Any doubts about the "system" are pretty much addressed there.

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:25 PM
if he fires bates then the pats would be wise to pick him up.

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 07:25 PM
He said that Jay will enjoy working in "this" system, it is very QB friendly.

Any doubts about the "system" are pretty much addressed there.

Spread offense here we come...

Cheez Whiz
01-12-2009, 07:25 PM
On Jay Cutler: “Jay’s very talented. I’ve had the opportunity to watch him a number of times on film and once in person this year. He’s got a lot of ability. He’s a very intelligent person, very intelligent player, does a lot of things well, and I think Jay’s going to enjoy playing in this system, this offense. It’s very quarterback friendly once you get accustomed to using all the tools…I can’t wait to get started working with him.”

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:27 PM
I realize it would be to hard to set up a couple of mikes in the aisles to ask questions into.. Most city halls and other forums have mastered on how to do it..

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:28 PM
We will not even recognize how this team plays in 2009 compared to recent years.

Capers is under contract. Has had discussions with Mike Nolan but nothing official yet.

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:28 PM
All of sudden it's really hitting me that the identity we've had for the last 15 years is probably going out the window. I'm a little sad about it.

spikerman
01-12-2009, 07:29 PM
He says he has not spoken to Dom Capers, but he has spoken to Mike Nolan, but nothing is official yet

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:29 PM
FWIW, a fairly repuitable poster at the Mane said that Bowlen is about to drop a bomb at the press conference...beats the heck out of me, but I've been told he actually does know someone in Dove Valley, or something of the sort...

Guess I'm not listening to that dude again...

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:29 PM
He has NOT talked to Capers, who he said is under contract. He HAS talked to Mike Nolan, but nothing is finalized.

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:29 PM
"we have got to get the players to understand the system we are going to utilize this year"

in referance to the offence.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:29 PM
He has NOT talked to Capers, who he said is under contract. He HAS talked to Mike Nolan, but nothing is finalized.

And the Post reported it has set in stone.

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:30 PM
"nothing is official yet"

in regards to mike nolan

spikerman
01-12-2009, 07:30 PM
"nothing is official yet"

in regards to mike nolan

yes.

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:31 PM
All of sudden it's really hitting me that the identity we've had for the last 15 years is probably going out the window. I'm a little sad about it.

I've been surprised by how many people have 'assumed' that the Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan offense would continue under a new coach.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Wow...cocksure...

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:31 PM
All of sudden it's really hitting me that the identity we've had for the last 15 years is probably going out the window. I'm a little sad about it.

I'd like to change the identity of this team going back to 2000.

This influx is exactly what we need. If he can bring in even a resemblence of what has happened in New England... Oh man.

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:34 PM
"absolutely"

when asked if he will wear a hoodie during games.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:34 PM
Yes, I will wear a hoodie. I can't wait to see my hoodie.

Requiem / The Dagda
01-12-2009, 07:35 PM
Change is good, and often necessary. Yes, it'll be hard for us as fans to not see what Mike has done, but Mike's way of things wasn't getting it done recently. I've seen what McDaniels' did in New England, and if he can do that here -- goodness, that'll be great. We have just as much talent as they do offensively, IMHO. Maybe a few pieces (additional WR, RB, OL) -- but we have a great corps. This team will be fun to watch.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:35 PM
wifes hot..

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:35 PM
Lady...you have no idea what you just stepped in to...

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:35 PM
hot wife!!

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:35 PM
I've been surprised by how many people have 'assumed' that the Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan offense would continue under a new coach.

I didn't assume it would stay the same, I just hadn't really thought it about it yet.

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:36 PM
I jumped in when the presser had already started. Did Bowlen make an appearance or say anything?

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:36 PM
I jumped in when the presser had already started. Did Bowlen make an appearance or say anything?

Not a whole lot...an introduction.

Den21vsBal19
01-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Came across quite well, let's see who else gets brought in

Simple Jaded
01-12-2009, 07:37 PM
If Doogie's wife hot?.......

dogfish
01-12-2009, 07:37 PM
Not a whole lot...an introduction.



not exactly a "bomb". . . .

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:37 PM
not exactly a "bomb". . . .

Um...no...

muse
01-12-2009, 07:37 PM
hot wife!!

I bet she makes him shave his monobrow.

turftoad
01-12-2009, 07:38 PM
Lady...you have no idea what you just stepped in to...

Exactly Mo, exactly.

turftoad
01-12-2009, 07:38 PM
I bet she makes him shave his monobrow.

He's got more hair there than he does on his head.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 07:39 PM
The one thing that popped out at me is that it didn't sound like Nolan is the defensive coordidator in waiting. It kind of sounded to me like Capers still might be asked to take the job.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:39 PM
well I missed the first 7-8 minutes assuming it would be on NFLN.. BIG mistake..

Anything important that I missed???

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:41 PM
well I missed the first 7-8 minutes assuming it would be on NFLN.. BIG mistake..

Anything important that I missed???

freakin dungy news screwed it all up.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-12-2009, 07:41 PM
The one thing that popped out at me is that it didn't sound like Nolan is the defensive coordidator in waiting. It kind of sounded to me like Capers still might be asked to take the job.

My son called me as he was listening to Dave Logan on 850KOA, and a caller who called in said that he had heard that Nolan will be the DC, and Capers will hold a position also???? Guess we will wait and see

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:41 PM
well I missed the first 7-8 minutes assuming it would be on NFLN.. BIG mistake..

Anything important that I missed???

No.

He's going to wear a hoodie on the sidelines.

JONtheBRONCO
01-12-2009, 07:41 PM
Very nice! Although I am still grieving the subtraction of Shanahan, Josh McDaniels seems to have all the right ingredients to put together a winning organization. He appears confident, sounds intelligent and seems to have a solid work ethic. A fresh face on the sidelines may be the right direction for the Denver Broncos after all. No official work on the new DC - but that gives us fans something to look forward to in the next couple of days. As Bronco fans, we all need to support Josh McDaniels and the new ideas he is going to bring to our football team.

Go Broncos!

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:44 PM
anyone else notice that the dudes head is perfectly round?

then look at dungy and it looks like a cone head.

elsid13
01-12-2009, 07:44 PM
We're ******, kid has no clue what means to be come in be leader.

I can not believe were going to be stuck playing a stupid NE style offense and set the players and offense back two years because the hotshot thinks he smarter then he really is. Experienced leaders coming into new organization should looks that thier organization, identify what works and figure out how to keep the process going in the right direction. They don't change everything because the want to seen as the man. That how thing get ****** up.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-12-2009, 07:44 PM
Not sure how much of it is on here:


http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=51656@kcnc.dayport.com

elsid13
01-12-2009, 07:45 PM
not exactly a "bomb". . . .

to be fair we are about to tar and feather the poster on the mane that posted that.

DenBronx
01-12-2009, 07:45 PM
We're ******, kid has no clue what means to be come in be leader.

I can not believe were going to be stuck playing a stupid NE style offense and set the players and offense back two years because the hotshot thinks he smarter then he really is. Experienced leaders coming into new organization should looks that thier organization, identify what works and figure out how to keep the process going in the right direction. They don't change everything because the want to seen as the man. That how thing get ****** up.


honestly, he's a complete idiot if he doesn't keep bates.

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Overall, I'm impressed with him. I'm not as up on other teams coordinators, coaches etc. like some of you here are. I admit I didn't even know who he was until I started checking rumor sites and stuff.

I'm excited to hear who he wants to bring in to coach the defense, but I'm sure he'll get a guy that fits his ideal. He seems to know what he wants out of his football team. I remember hearing him say the word "physical" somewhere in there. I liked the sound of that.

He'll fight the age stereotype, but I'm not sure I've seen a more well spoken more well prepared 32 year old in my lifetime. I'm excited. Can we start 2009 now?

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 07:46 PM
We're ******, kid has no clue what means to be come in be leader.

I can not believe were going to be stuck playing a stupid NE style offense and set the players and offense back two years because the hotshot thinks he smarter then he really is. Experienced leaders coming into new organization should looks that thier organization, identify what works and figure out how to keep the process going in the right direction. They don't change everything because the want to seen as the man. That how thing get ****** up.


just perhaps that is what Pat wanted to do.. ever think he might be tired of the zillion yards between the 20's?

Tned
01-12-2009, 07:47 PM
I didn't assume it would stay the same, I just hadn't really thought it about it yet.

Sorry, wasn't referring to you per se. It is just that a lot of the conversation the last week has 'assumed' that the Gibbs/Shanahan offense would continue as the Broncos offense.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 07:47 PM
My son called me as he was listening to Dave Logan on 850KOA, and a caller who called in said that he had heard that Nolan will be the DC, and Capers will hold a position also???? Guess we will wait and see

I don't think we're going end with both of those guys on the defensive staff. I can see one or the other but not both.

Cheez Whiz
01-12-2009, 07:48 PM
to be fair we are about to tar and feather the poster on the mane that posted that.

Who was it? :lol:

Slick
01-12-2009, 07:49 PM
We're ******, kid has no clue what means to be come in be leader.

I can not believe were going to be stuck playing a stupid NE style offense and set the players and offense back two years because the hotshot thinks he smarter then he really is. Experienced leaders coming into new organization should looks that thier organization, identify what works and figure out how to keep the process going in the right direction. They don't change everything because the want to seen as the man. That how thing get ****** up.

Whoa, slow down sid. He may just improve on last year. We might get some points to go along with all those yards.

elsid13
01-12-2009, 07:51 PM
who was it? :lol:

oskie

Lancane
01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
I for one am excited, the old offense was not getting it done...the defensive coordinators and schemes sure the hell were not getting it done! I like what he had to say and the fact that he layed the law out impressed me - 'Everyone will be held accountable!'...

nevcraw
01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
If he doesn't keep turner - that would be a serious blow to the team.. Is there a finer RB coach in the leauge? I think not..

spikerman
01-12-2009, 07:54 PM
I for one am excited, the old offense was not getting it done...the defensive coordinators and schemes sure the hell were not getting it done! I like what he had to say and the fact that he layed the law out impressed me - 'Everyone will be held accountable!'...All new coaches say that.

Shazam!
01-12-2009, 07:54 PM
He said everything right. It's an exciting time. Actions speak louder than words. Let's see how it translates.

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:55 PM
If anyone can find a transcript, please post a link.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 07:56 PM
If anyone can find a transcript, please post a link.

www.denverbroncos.com

Dean
01-12-2009, 07:57 PM
He didn't come right out and say what changes he would make but it sounded to me that the offense would be changed. He mentioned a few time about players learning the offense which would not be necessary if they largely retained what we had. IMO that's too bad.

The defense sounded like they would be in a transitional defense. I am guessing here but I am wondering if it will be a 4-3 for the short run evolving into a 3-4 in the long run.

I guess we will have to wait to find out more. He answered the questions without giving out much real information.

BigHouseofOrange
01-12-2009, 07:57 PM
Well duh. I'm an idiot.

Cheez Whiz
01-12-2009, 07:59 PM
oskie

I'm sure he was just trying to stir things up.

elsid13
01-12-2009, 07:59 PM
Whoa, slow down sid. He may just improve on last year. We might get some points to go along with all those yards.

Points weren't there because the we failed to have effective running game inside the 20s due to number of reasons.

I don't like this hire. I have been in to many real world situation when a new PM/VP/CEO were brought to take over and change something because leadership felt they need a fix. (Hell I had to do 5 times myself) I can always tell who going to be successful and who isn't. The leader that come in figure out what working and figures on how to build upon usually is the guy/gal that make a immediate improvement. The folks that come in and feel the need to put thier stamp on things are usually the one that run into wall and number of times and set the organization back. The lack of experience is going to hurt us.

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 07:59 PM
There was sort of a bomb reading between the lines from scheme I guess--Jay will be learning a new system.

Some may have speculated but now that can go to the bank.

BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:03 PM
Overall, I'm impressed with him. I'm not as up on other teams coordinators, coaches etc. like some of you here are. I admit I didn't even know who he was until I started checking rumor sites and stuff.

I'm excited to hear who he wants to bring in to coach the defense, but I'm sure he'll get a guy that fits his ideal. He seems to know what he wants out of his football team. I remember hearing him say the word "physical" somewhere in there. I liked the sound of that.

He'll fight the age stereotype, but I'm not sure I've seen a more well spoken more well prepared 32 year old in my lifetime. I'm excited. Can we start 2009 now?

I felt like he was out of his element.
He seemed uncomfortable to me.
It may be a small critique ...but I do not like when he said something along the lines of... "we will TRY and win some games here"
I want to hear "we WILL win some games...and a few superbowls!"
.
The fact his tie was peach and not orange bothered me
He is going to wear a hoodie just like Belechick...it would have been nice hearing...
"it doesnt matter what I wear...shorts and a tank top...pajamas...this isnt a fashion show"
I dont want to have a mini BB running the show in Denver.
I wanted to hear
"I hate the Raiders,Chiefs and Chargers and my staff and I will be working on the film and putting together a gameplan tonight to set the fans minds at ease this coming season"
I wanted to hear him say...
"we are not accepting anything less than the Superbowl next year"
.
He still sounded like a Patriot to me....not a Bronco!

topscribe
01-12-2009, 08:05 PM
He didn't come right out and say what changes he would make but it sounded to me that the offense would be changed. He mentioned a few time about players learning the offense which would not be necessary if they largely retained what we had. IMO that's too bad.

The defense sounded like they would be in a transitional defense. I am guessing here but I am wondering if it will be a 4-3 for the short run evolving into a 3-4 in the long run.

I guess we will have to wait to find out more. He answered the questions without giving out much real information.

I think McD was saying that he doesn't know at present until he gets to evaluating . . .
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Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:05 PM
5:00 p.m. MST: Vice President of Public Relations Jim Saccomano is addressing the crowd — he says President and CEO Pat Bowlen will address the crowd first, followed by new Head Coach Josh McDaniels.

The owner and coach have just walked into the room.

5:01 p.m. MST: “I’m ecstatic, I’m excited, I’m ready to introduce the new coach of the Denver Broncos, Josh McDaniels,” Bowlen says and gives McDaniels a handshake.

“I’m excited and looking forward very much to the opportunity to lead this team,” McDaniels says.


5:04 p.m. MST: McDaniels thanks a number of people, including Bill Belichick, who he says provided his foundation in the National Football League.

“This is an opportunity that doesn’t come along very often. I know I’m coming into a place where winning is the most important thing. That’s been very clear to me during this process.”

“I want this team to be tough, smart and prepared to play well under pressure. The evaluation process of how to get this team to that point is going to start today and it’s going to be ongoing. Everybody here in this organization is going to be held accountable to do their job — their piece of the puzzle to make this team a competitor for a championship every season.”

5:05 p.m. MST: McDaniels is now taking questions.

“My age has never been a factor, and it never will be a factor. It’s about performance…It’s about doing your job to the best of your ability and that’s what I’m going to do.”

“When the job came open, certainly it was something I had to look at very seriously — it’s a great place with a great history and a great tradition. The culture is about winning — you don’t have to create it.”

5:06 p.m. MST: “This is definitely a dream come true to have an opportunity to lead this team and this organization is something I couldn’t imagine would come up, but once it did it was certainly something I had to jump at.”

5:07 p.m. MST: “Not making the playoffs allowed me to get into this process right away as soon as the season ended. I’ve spent a lot of time and preparation over the last year getting myself more ready to go in case this opportunity did present itself … I feel the timing is right.”

McDaniels says he has not spoken with Jay Cutler, but he will shortly. “There’s a lot of people I would like to reach out to shortly — players, coaches here on the staff.”

On if he has thought about assistant coaches: “There are some people that I’ve spoken with — the process today and tomorrow will start picking up.”

5:10 p.m. MST: McDaniels is asked about working under Nick Saban, Bill Belichick and Charlie Weiss, and how his style differs from theirs: “I hope I’ve taken all the good things from them. The way I coach and the way I try to lead is by being more prepared than everybody else. Trying to do that on a daily basis. Because I think that’s what players respond to.”

On if he’s a tough coach like those three: “At times. When it has to happen, of course. I don’t think you do it unnecessarily, but I like to believe I’m a teacher. I believe that I can communicate — that’s a very important word for me. When you need to get your hands dirty in this game, you’ve got to be willing to do it, and I thinnk the players respond to that.”

5:12 p.m. MST: On achieving his dream and growing up in Canton, Ohio: “It’s been a long road with a lot of great influences for me. When that conversation took place, I was very eager to accept that. Growing up in Canton is a very important part of my life. Football is next to nothing. The people in Canton love this game. They cherish the weekend that they really get to shine in August. I’ve been going to two-a-days since I was five years old. I know it sounds silly since I’m 32, but for 27 years I’ve been going to practices in August until now.”

5:14 p.m. MST: On how he will shore up the defense: “I’ve coached offense in the past, but I’m a football coach that has been built to understand defense. That’s where I learned my foundation. Defense is important to how we will attack people offensively. So as much as I can say I’m proud ot have worked with the offense the past four or five years, I’m a football coach and I want the opportunity to affect the kicking game, the offense and the defense — all phases of the game…There are areas where this team can improve offensively, defensively and in the kicking game…We’re going to evaluate the people, we’re going to evaluate the scheme and we’re going to evaluate the coaches.”

“As somebody who has played against this team quite a few times in the past few years, the scheme has changed here a few times. We want to bring some consistency to that and make sure that we try to improve whatever that system and that scheme is from day one.”

5:15 p.m. MST: McDaniels says that he will be the play-caller on offense.

5:16 p.m. MST: On if he is a little more approachable with the fans and media than Belichick and Saban: “I try to focus on all the positive things that those people have given me the opportunity to see. But I think you’ll certainly see me bring a little bit of a different vibe. I’m going to have a lot of energy. I can smile. I think there are some things that people will like and get used to, but I think the personality of the coach comes through over time. You’ll get an opportunity to see how I differ from them — it’s hard to describe that right here.”

5:19 p.m. MST: On his father, growing up in a football family: “He’s very proud. I’m sure he’s very, very proud today. My father, I’ve had the most opportunity to witness him, because I started very young. I’ve had more years around him obviously than any of those other coaches I’ve mentioned…I think the one thing about my father that I know that I do take every day into this job is his passion. There’s nothing about this game that’s unimportant to him, and I would say that’s true about myself. That’s how I’ll approach this job every day, and I think everyone will see that show through.”

5:22 p.m. MST: On evaluating players in house: “I think that’s the first place that you want to start — evaluate what you have here.”

“I haven’t had the opportunity to sit at my desk yet, but I’ll be looking forward to that.”

On the team: “This is a team that won eight games, and I think any time you win eight games and fall short of your goals and your expectations, there’s a lot that needs to be improved.”

On if he will retain any of last season’s assistant coaches: “I don’t know most of them. I have a relationship with one or two of them, cordially, but I haven’t had the opportunity to work with them…I think that’s a decision that will be made over the next couple days.”

On Jay Cutler: “Jay’s very talented. I’ve had the opportunity to watch him a number of times on film and once in person this year. He’s got a lot of ability. He’s a very intelligent person, very intelligent player, does a lot of things well, and I think Jay’s going to enjoy playing in this system, this offense. It’s very quarterback friendly once you get accustomed to using all the tools…I can’t wait to get started working with him.”

5:25 p.m. MST: McDaniels says he’s looking forward to joining an organization that’s very similar to the one he left — it’s all about winning.

On if his age is helpful: “I’ve coached older players, I’ve coached younger players — I don’t think age is a factor. What they care about is what I’m saying, and if it’s going to help them win. That’s the most important thing to me and it’s the most important thing to the players.”

5:27 p.m. MST: On what he thought when he saw the Broncos on the schedule as an opponent: “A hard team to beat…every time you see their name on the schedule, you know it’s going to be a 60-minute game, they’re going to be well-prepared, they’ve got good players and it’s going to be a dogfight. I’m excited to be on the other side of that now.”

On facing the Patriots in the 2009 season: “That will be great,” he says with a sheepish smile. “I don’t think any coach is afraid to go coach against a team he was a part of for a long time. That will be exciting for me…It’s not about that, I just think they’re a competitive team and we’ll look forward to the challenge.”

McDaniels says the process of building a staff has begun already, and he would hope that it would be sooner rather than later, but it will take however long it takes to build a successful staff. He says he has not talked with Dom Capers yet, not that he wouldn’t, and he has talked to Mike Nolan, though nothing is official.

5:30 p.m. MST: On the offensive talent on the Broncos: “The list goes on and on — they’ve got a lot of talent. I think the biggest thing is to get the players to understand the system that we’re going to utilize this year, and to have a great spring. That’s the goal here, to accomplish a lot between spring camps and training camp. That’s the most exciting thing to me.”

5:32 p.m. MST: McDaniels talks about working closely with personnel in New England and coaching both offense and defense.

“The thing that I’m most excited about is that I can affect more than just the offense.”

5:33 p.m. MST: On what weaknesses he saw on the Broncos when he was studying film on the other side this season: “Certain games it’s going to be about the scheme, certain games maybe you can pick on a player. I’m not going to stand up here and say what our plan was, but we had success there and I’m glad we did then, but now I hope to reverse that trend.”

On if he will wear a hoodie on the sideline: (Laughs) “Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I can’t wait to see my hoodie.”

5:34 p.m. MST: McDaniels is at the podium with his wife posing for a few pictures as the press conference comes to a close.

DenverBroncos.com will have more coverage coming later this evening.

-Gray Caldwell, DenverBroncos.com

turftoad
01-12-2009, 08:06 PM
I felt like he was out of his element.
He seemed uncomfortable to me.
It may be a small critique ...but I do not like when he said something along the lines of... "we will TRY and win some games here"
I want to hear "we WILL win some games...and a few superbowls!"
.
The fact his tie was peach and not orange bothered me
He is going to wear a hoodie just like Belechick...it would have been nice hearing...
"it doesnt matter what I wear...shorts and a tank top...pajamas...this isnt a fashion show"
I dont want to have a mini BB running the show in Denver.
I wanted to hear
"I hate the Raiders,Chiefs and Chargers and my staff and I will be working on the film and putting together a gameplan tonight to set the fans minds at ease this coming season"
I wanted to hear him say...
"we are not accepting anything less than the Superbowl next year"
.
He still sounded like a Patriot to me....not a Bronco!

I agree. He sounds like a Pat still. Got sick of hearing him talk about it.
We'll be the AFCWPATS. :tsk:

topscribe
01-12-2009, 08:07 PM
I felt like he was out of his element.
He seemed uncomfortable to me.
It may be a small critique ...but I do not like when he said something along the lines of... "we will TRY and win some games here"
I want to hear "we WILL win some games...and a few superbowls!"
.
The fact his tie was peach and not orange bothered me
He is going to wear a hoodie just like Belechick...it would have been nice hearing...
"it doesnt matter what I wear...shorts and a tank top...pajamas...this isnt a fashion show"
I dont want to have a mini BB running the show in Denver.
I wanted to hear
"I hate the Raiders,Chiefs and Chargers and my staff and I will be working on the film and putting together a gameplan tonight to set the fans minds at ease this coming season"
I wanted to hear him say...
"we are not accepting anything less than the Superbowl next year"
.
He still sounded like a Patriot to me....not a Bronco!

Well, where has he spent the last few years?

Give him time to orientate.

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atwater27
01-12-2009, 08:07 PM
On Jay Cutler: “Jay’s very talented. I’ve had the opportunity to watch him a number of times on film and once in person this year. He’s got a lot of ability. He’s a very intelligent person, very intelligent player, does a lot of things well, and I think Jay’s going to enjoy playing in this system, this offense. It’s very quarterback friendly once you get accustomed to using all the tools…I can’t wait to get started working with him.”

Outstanding!!! Now we can include Scheffler and running backs more and throw to stone hands Marshall less.

JONtheBRONCO
01-12-2009, 08:09 PM
We're ******, kid has no clue what means to be come in be leader.

I can not believe were going to be stuck playing a stupid NE style offense and set the players and offense back two years because the hotshot thinks he smarter then he really is. Experienced leaders coming into new organization should looks that thier organization, identify what works and figure out how to keep the process going in the right direction. They don't change everything because the want to seen as the man. That how thing get ****** up.

Become a leader? Well give him a chance first. Jesus. Lets not fry him up right away. He's going to change the defense entirely - good! He's going to bring experience from an organization who has won 3 Superbowls in the past decade. Who knows what he'll do to the offense? Last time I checked he was the offensive coordinator who helped set record breaking numbers and worked with a QB who hasn't started a game since high school and was still able to manage an 11-5 record.

I don't know if its set in yet, but JOSH MCDANIELS is the NEW head coach of the Broncos. It's his team now... Would it suck to see the offense change and tweaked? Yes. But who is going to complain with a winning formula. I would rather see the Broncos advance to the post-season for once even if it means a new style of play - and I think the same goes for the players. No one complains with the style of an offense when a team is winning and yet, some people are already convinced that a scheme that hasn't even yet been presented to us - is going to fail... elevate Cutler and the players around him - look at his track record. With the players we have, the talent level on offense - I don't think so...

Slick
01-12-2009, 08:10 PM
I felt like he was out of his element.
He seemed uncomfortable to me.
It may be a small critique ...but I do not like when he said something along the lines of... "we will TRY and win some games here"
I want to hear "we WILL win some games...and a few superbowls!"
.
The fact his tie was peach and not orange bothered me
He is going to wear a hoodie just like Belechick...it would have been nice hearing...
"it doesnt matter what I wear...shorts and a tank top...pajamas...this isnt a fashion show"
I dont want to have a mini BB running the show in Denver.
I wanted to hear
"I hate the Raiders,Chiefs and Chargers and my staff and I will be working on the film and putting together a gameplan tonight to set the fans minds at ease this coming season"
I wanted to hear him say...
"we are not accepting anything less than the Superbowl next year"
.
He still sounded like a Patriot to me....not a Bronco!

Fair enough Curly. I think he'll develop his own identity, but there's worse things than a mini BB running the show. I don't think it'll be that way, but I can think of worse things.

His disdain for the Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers will only grow. I don't care who he hates as long as he hates losing. That's the bottom line for me.

Superchop 7
01-12-2009, 08:11 PM
He didn't come right out and say what changes he would make but it sounded to me that the offense would be changed. He mentioned a few time about players learning the offense which would not be necessary if they largely retained what we had. IMO that's too bad.

The defense sounded like they would be in a transitional defense. I am guessing here but I am wondering if it will be a 4-3 for the short run evolving into a 3-4 in the long run.

I guess we will have to wait to find out more. He answered the questions without giving out much real information.

__________________________________________________ _________________________________________________

Thats exactly how I heard it too.

I would rather see Josh add some new wrinkles to our offense than ditch it.

IMO, if your going to be a 3-4 defense......then be a 3-4 defense......even if it takes a couple of years.....at least be consistent from Day 1.

I guess he couldn't get McDermott, too bad, we could have been a good defense next year, but, I'm also a fan of the 3-4 so patience is a virtue.

I won't expect alot out of next year, too many changes, but I think in the long run we will be a very good team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he hires Joel Collier for a defensive assistant position, especially if they go 3-4. ( Joe Colliers son )

G_Money
01-12-2009, 08:11 PM
Why would McDaniels just keep our whole offensive scheme? Maybe a defensive coach would have, maybe.

Schemes change when coaches change. The question is whether he will ditch the ZBS model we've had since forever. My guess is we'll lose a bit of it, but he can't ditch it without chucking much of our OL personnel. We're built to be a ZBS system.

McDaniels has proved over the last 3 years that he's flexible. I'm optimistic that he will remain flexible and you will see several holdovers. A good coach shores up his own weaknesses.

What weaknesses would you consider McDaniels to have?

Lack of head coaching experience, obviously, so I'd like to see him bring in at least one former head coach to help keep him from stepping in obvious potholes.

Lack of familiarity with multiple systems. He's been with NE running that scheme his whole pro career. He's been putting wrinkles in it but that's what he knows. Still, this is what Shanahan knows, and doing that over and over worked okay for us. I would still think he'll keep either Bates or Turner to see if he can add a few more pieces to his offensive pie.

It's hard to tell a lot from a press conference. He seems smart, he's a decent talker, he's got a lot of intensity burning away under that giant head of his.

I feel the same about his hiring now as I did before the presser: he's the guy who's got to make it work. He's very young, he's been very good, and now we'll see whether he's got the chops to step up to head coach.

I hope his eye for coaches is a good one. He wants to bring continuity of scheme to all sides of the ball, and for that he'll need good schemes and good schemers.

Once we see who we add to the staff I can start to get a better idea of how the 2009-and-beyond Broncos are gonna shape up.

For right now, we just had a good speech. That'll get me through to tomorrow.

~G

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 08:11 PM
The Fan saying Bates chances of staying are slim and none...

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Well, where has he spent the last few years?

Give him time to orientate.

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in fact it might be nice to let him figure out where the door to the urinals are before worrying about it and frankly if we get HALF the super bowl wins the Pats have, over the next decade I'll be happy..

Slick
01-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Points weren't there because the we failed to have effective running game inside the 20s due to number of reasons.

I don't like this hire. I have been in to many real world situation when a new PM/VP/CEO were brought to take over and change something because leadership felt they need a fix. (Hell I had to do 5 times myself) I can always tell who going to be successful and who isn't. The leader that come in figure out what working and figures on how to build upon usually is the guy/gal that make a immediate improvement. The folks that come in and feel the need to put thier stamp on things are usually the one that run into wall and number of times and set the organization back. The lack of experience is going to hurt us.
I hope you're wrong this time then. Ultimately, the lack of production of the running game inside the 20's fell on Shanahan's shoulders. That's all that really matters at this point.

I know not everyone is happy with the new coach and I didn't expect them to be. I choose to support the hire and be positive about the future. Others will bitch and moan (not you directly) and that will get us nowhere.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Fair enough Curly. I think he'll develop his own identity, but there's worse things than a mini BB running the show. I don't think it'll be that way, but I can think of worse things.

His disdain for the Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers will only grow. I don't care who he hates as long as he hates losing. That's the bottom line for me.

right now for this next year I have no issues with him winning all those east coast games we will play and I'll let the AFCW worry about themselves next year..

Ziggy
01-12-2009, 08:18 PM
in fact it might be nice to let him figure out where the door to the urinals are before worrying about it and frankly if we get HALF the super bowl wins the Pats have, over the next decade I'll be happy..



It's nice to hear optimism out of you JR. It'll add quite a different look around here. :beer:

honz
01-12-2009, 08:19 PM
Shanahan is gone people. McDaniels is not going to be Mike Shanahan the II. There is going to be change in Bronco land. Whether that change will ultimately be for the better remains to be seen, but that question will be answered over the next 2-3 years. I understand that people wish Shanahan were still here or wish we would have hired a different candidate, but some of you aren't even giving this guy a chance. It is what it is, and as a Bronco fan I am fully behind this team and our new coach. I suggest all Bronco fans do the same...because this is our coach for at least the next couple of years whether we like it or not.

BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:20 PM
Sorry guys ....I just want us to have our own Identity
.
I dont want to be a mirror image of another team

Nomad
01-12-2009, 08:20 PM
I know he has no say, but Terrell Davis seemed disappointed with the McDaniels hiring!!

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:21 PM
It's nice to hear optimism out of you JR. It'll add quite a different look around here. :beer:


hey my buddy mikey is gone hard not to have a ray of sunshine.. :salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:

Jaws
01-12-2009, 08:22 PM
:cool::cool::cool::cool: <--- sunglasses for those blinded by the sun ;)

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:23 PM
Shanahan is gone people. McDaniels is not going to be Mike Shanahan the II. There is going to be change in Bronco land. Whether that change will ultimately be for the better remains to be seen, but that question will be answered over the next 2-3 years. I understand that people wish Shanahan were still here or wish we would have hired a different candidate, but some of you aren't even giving this guy a chance. It is what it is, and as a Bronco fan I am fully behind this team and our new coach. I suggest all Bronco fans do the same...because this is our coach for at least the next couple of years whether we like it or not.

with that change I wonder if we get new uniforms this year.. sure would not hurt the image..

tomjonesrocks
01-12-2009, 08:25 PM
Sorry guys ....I just want us to have our own Identity
.
I dont want to be a mirror image of another team

I hear you--I don't want to be a watered down Pats team the way th Texans are a watered down Broncos team. But I suppose Shanahan was from the 49ers tree and the Broncos didn't become the 49ers. I'm quite concerned as well--but we just don't know how this will turn out in the end.

Lancane
01-12-2009, 08:28 PM
Sorry guys ....I just want us to have our own Identity
.
I dont want to be a mirror image of another team

Identity comes from the executive platform, the coaching staff and the players; collected together by joint desires and their unique personalities and how they better the team. A scheme is not an identity, if that was the case then it would be fair to say that Shanahan brought the 49ers identity here, because if anyone cares to remember that is where we got the west coast offense we implimented!

;)

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 08:28 PM
Its a little hard to tell what identity this team will have next year from a press conference.

Its way too soon to be saying that he's mini-Bill. Heck, he was already more open with the media than Belichick is.

He's going to be fine. Its about hiring the right coordinators now.

BroncoAV06
01-12-2009, 08:30 PM
Jumping the gun a bit are we folks, of course he will bring things he knows, over time he will learn new things and find out even more about his coachign style as a head coach and the Broncos will be the Broncos.

Also ever think of sarcasim when it comes to the hoody? Said it with a laugh...

Slick
01-12-2009, 08:32 PM
Its a little hard to tell what identity this team will have next year from a press conference.

Its way too soon to be saying that he's mini-Bill. Heck, he was already more open with the media than Belichick is.

He's going to be fine. Its about hiring the right coordinators now.

But he said he was going to wear a hoodie, and damnit, he's not my guy.

BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:33 PM
I agree with everyone...

Of course I hope he is the second coming of Christ himself...

I was just saying....be your own man McCoach...dont wear a hoodie with your initials stitched on the front and the sleaves cut off....
and please God dont grow your hair out and comb it over

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 08:34 PM
But he said he was going to wear a hoodie, and damnit, he's not my guy.

As long as the hoodie says "Broncos" on it, and not "Patriots" I really don't care what he wears.

No one is going to feeling like "my" guy for a while, no matter who it is.

Plus, of course he doesn't know a whole ton about our team yet, he's two weeks removed from a job he held for eight years, and he just accepted this job yesterday...

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:35 PM
Jumping the gun a bit are we folks, of course he will bring things he knows, over time he will learn new things and find out even more about his coachign style as a head coach and the Broncos will be the Broncos.

Also ever think of sarcasim when it comes to the hoody? Said it with a laugh...

with the other coaches he brings in on both side of the LOS, he will also learn from and it will evolve into Josh ball..

after seeing NE the past few years I think it will be an exciting time..

BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:36 PM
As long as the hoodie says "Broncos" on it, and not "Patriots" I really don't care what he wears.

No one is going to feeling like "my" guy for a while, no matter who it is.

Plus, of course he doesn't know a whole ton about our team yet, he's two weeks removed from a job he held for eight years, and he just accepted this job yesterday...

he should have bought ...

Broncos: The complete History

on DVD before he came in

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 08:37 PM
he should have bought ...

Broncos: The complete History

on DVD before he came in

Why?

Hobe
01-12-2009, 08:37 PM
I thought the weakness in the spread offense at New England was the somewhat wimpy running attack. New York ignored the run and just tried to rearrange Brady’s body parts; and it worked great. I don’t know whether the weakness was strategic (Didn’t care about the run.) or personal based (Didn’t have good run blockers and runners.). I just won’t fell comfortable without at least a decent running game.

topscribe
01-12-2009, 08:38 PM
Identity comes from the executive platform, the coaching staff and the players; collected together by joint desires and their unique personalities and how they better the team. A scheme is not an identity, if that was the case then it would be fair to say that Shanahan brought the 49ers identity here, because if anyone cares to remember that is where we got the west coast offense we implimented!

;)

Identity comes from winning or losing, and how you win or lose.

I would like the Broncos to be identified like the Pats were: Hated because
they have no mercy on the opponent. That's my kind of identity . . .

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BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:39 PM
Why?

Tough crowd huh?

Slick
01-12-2009, 08:39 PM
I'm glad honz caught that.

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Tough crowd huh?

I'm not trying to be tough, but I just don't see why a guy has to come in to an open presser and tell the fans that he hates the rivals and wants to beat the crap out of them next year.

BigCurly1230
01-12-2009, 08:42 PM
I'm not trying to be tough, but I just don't see why a guy has to come in to an open presser and tell the fans that he hates the rivals and wants to beat the crap out of them next year.

I was just being sarcastic...

Of course he has no history with the AFC West ...

It would have been nice to hear regardless

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Identity comes from winning or losing, and how you win or lose.

I would like the Broncos to be identified like the Pats were: Hated because
they have no mercy on the opponent. That's my kind of identity . . .

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maybe even one that does not let down or play Conservative with a lead.. or even better yet does not LOSE games they should win by a landslide..

elsid13
01-12-2009, 08:44 PM
Look there are two things that are really bugging about this hire. I promise this is the last vent.

1. This team was 8-8 not 1-15 or 4-12. I was looking for someone to come in and build on the solid young foundation that team has in place, not make whole scale changes. We don't need someone to fix everything, we need some to focus on the problem we had defense and continue to maintain/grow the offense.

2. We need him to be the HC, not the OC. I don't like the fact that he going to be calling his own plays. Hire or retain the coaches you need to lead that side of ball. I watched Jim Zorn struggle as first time head coach and leading the offense. Even Shanahan brought Kubes with him to ensure he didn't get suck down into the crap. I am not saying he should haven't input, but don't try to do everything. That trap to many people fall in when they get promoted, doing their old job and not the one they got hired for.

Bowlen promised us a "10" I'm holding him to that promise.

Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Look there are two things that are really bugging about this hire. I promise this is the last vent.

1. This team was 8-8 not 1-15 or 4-12. I was looking for someone to come in and build on the solid young foundation that team has in place, not make whole scale changes. We don't need someone to fix everything, we need some to focus on the problem we had defense and continue to maintain/grow the offense.

2. We need him to be the HC, not the OC. I don't like the fact that he going to be calling his own plays. Hire or retain the coaches you need to lead that side of ball. I watched Jim Zorn struggle as first time head coach and leading the offense. Even Shanahan brought Kubes with him to ensure he didn't get suck down into the crap. I am not saying he should haven't input, but don't try to do everything. That trap to many people fall in when they get promoted, doing their old job and not the one they got hired for.

Bowlen promised us a "10" I holding him to that promise.

mikey for years called the plays into the QB, so what.. He wants to know he can trust someone that they know HIS system as well as he does.. when that happens he will change he will move on to other things..

Slick
01-12-2009, 08:51 PM
All good points, and I agree, but I never thought a new coach would just do some minor tweaking unless it was an inhouse guy. Hopefully we don't regress on the offensive side of the ball. I think the talent is there to run his system or anyone else's.

claymore
01-12-2009, 08:51 PM
He has to win games right away. In a big offensive way. Defense only needs to improve a little.

Bottom line, he has to show results and improvement.

topscribe
01-12-2009, 08:52 PM
maybe even one that does not let down or play Conservative with a lead.. or even better yet does not LOSE games they should win by a landslide..

My favorite Broncos year (regular season) is still 1977.

If the Broncos were supposed to win, they did.

If they weren't supposed to win, they still did.

I would love to see that kind of cajones here again . . .

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Lonestar
01-12-2009, 08:55 PM
My favorite Broncos year (regular season) is still 1977.

If the Broncos were supposed to win, they did.

If they weren't supposed to win, they still did.

I would love to see that kind of cajones here again . . .

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77 was a vintage year and I was so pumped about that team I was still taking bets in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl.

I knew they would pull it out..

none of mikeys teams ever had huevos IMO..

broncobryce
01-12-2009, 08:59 PM
77 was a vintage year and I was so pumped about that team I was still taking bets in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl.

I knew they would pull it out..

none of mikeys teams ever had huevos IMO..

Except the 97 superbowl team.........we were dogs by like 2 TDs

Slick
01-12-2009, 09:00 PM
cajones(Northern Mexico), huevos(Central Mexico and the Yucatan), bolas(Spain), they all work. I'm impressed Top, Jr.

nevcraw
01-12-2009, 09:01 PM
none of mikeys teams ever had huevos IMO..

IMO YO is BS! :laugh:

MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 09:03 PM
none of mikeys teams ever had huevos IMO..

Really? None of them. You're that jaded about a HOF coach?

Tned
01-12-2009, 09:04 PM
There was sort of a bomb reading between the lines from scheme I guess--Jay will be learning a new system.

Some may have speculated but now that can go to the bank.

Not much of a bomb. It would have been a bigger surprise if he said he was going to keep the existing Shanahan/Gibbs scheme.

Lancane
01-12-2009, 09:05 PM
My favorite Broncos year (regular season) is still 1977.

If the Broncos were supposed to win, they did.

If they weren't supposed to win, they still did.

I would love to see that kind of cajones here again . . .

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Are you kidding me Top? In this league...lol. The players of today would not stand a chance against the 77' Broncs, hell they would not last a quarter! Back then it was tough, physical football with gladiator mentality...the kids of today are so whimpy that it would look like a horror flick gone wrong! Refs would be tossing a flag every other minute for some bunk arse penalty...lol. Not that I would mind seeing the game return to a more physical type game overall, just these kids today are pampered superstars, not warriors and the few who are warriors become superstars! Go freakin' figure...lmfao.

topscribe
01-12-2009, 09:06 PM
cajones(Northern Mexico), huevos(Central Mexico and the Yucatan), bolas(Spain), they all work. I'm impressed Top, Jr.

Cuando me entusiasma, a veces me encuentro a mí mismo deslizamiento en
español. Es un hábito que no puede agitar. No realmente. Mi español es malo. :D

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MOtorboat
01-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Are you kidding me Top? In this league...lol. The players of today would not stand a chance against the 77' Broncs, hell they would not last a quarter! Back then it was tough, physical football with gladiator mentality...the kids of today are so whimpy that it would look like a horror flick gone wrong! Refs would be tossing a flag every other minute for some bunk arse penalty...lol. Not that I would mind seeing the game return to a more physical type game overall, just these kids today are pampered superstars, not warriors and the few who are warriors become superstars! Go freakin' figure...lmfao.

They may be pampered and babied, but their shear physical size and speed is just so much more, that I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

If the 70s Pittsburgh team played the 08 Ravens it would be a blood bath.

Now, if you're talking about our defense, I totally agree. :D.

Lancane
01-12-2009, 09:08 PM
cajones(Northern Mexico), huevos(Central Mexico and the Yucatan), bolas(Spain), they all work. I'm impressed Top, Jr.

Balet, Alune...

;)

If you can tell me what tongue that comes from then I will be impressed! :D

topscribe
01-12-2009, 09:10 PM
Balet, Alune...

;)

If you can tell me what tongue that comes from then I will be impressed! :D

Romanian

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TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 09:10 PM
All new coaches say that.


Exactly, now he has to follow through.

Lancane
01-12-2009, 09:10 PM
Cuando me entusiasma, a veces me encuentro a mí mismo deslizamiento en
español. Es un hábito que no puede agitar. No realmente. Mi español es malo. :D

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This is what happens when you live in Arizona...you become native...lol. Not sure what you said, but the compliment to McDaniels was a nice gesture!

:beer:

Rex
01-12-2009, 09:10 PM
Not much of a bomb. It would have been a bigger surprise if he said he was going to keep the existing Shanahan/Gibbs scheme.

I continue to be amazed that people keep mentioning keeping this coach, that coach, hope how the "new coach" will keep the offensive system, etc etc etc.

This is a regime change.......NEW regime. They are NOT going to come in here and say.."well guys, you had a pretty good offense, I dont know it, but How about we keep it the same?".

Cutler is supposedly a smart guy, he can handle it. McDaniels has proven that his teams can move the ball......even with a (gasp), QB not named Tom Brady and a non 1st round draft choice RBs.

Lancane
01-12-2009, 09:11 PM
Romanian

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You suck, don't tell me you can actually speak my grandmother's language?

:eek:

topscribe
01-12-2009, 09:12 PM
You suck, don't tell me you can actually speak my grandmother's language?

:eek:

Nope, can't speak it. Just recognized it. :D

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Tned
01-12-2009, 09:15 PM
Look there are two things that are really bugging about this hire. I promise this is the last vent.

1. This team was 8-8 not 1-15 or 4-12. I was looking for someone to come in and build on the solid young foundation that team has in place, not make whole scale changes. We don't need someone to fix everything, we need some to focus on the problem we had defense and continue to maintain/grow the offense.

2. We need him to be the HC, not the OC. I don't like the fact that he going to be calling his own plays. Hire or retain the coaches you need to lead that side of ball. I watched Jim Zorn struggle as first time head coach and leading the offense. Even Shanahan brought Kubes with him to ensure he didn't get suck down into the crap. I am not saying he should haven't input, but don't try to do everything. That trap to many people fall in when they get promoted, doing their old job and not the one they got hired for.

Bowlen promised us a "10" I holding him to that promise.

The Broncos had gone through a similar run when he hired Shanahan.

Shanahan called the plays through the SB years, on into the early '00s before handing that job to Kubiak.

Right or wrong, Shanahan is looking for a similar change that he got back in '95.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 09:15 PM
77 was a vintage year and I was so pumped about that team I was still taking bets in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl.

I knew they would pull it out..

none of mikeys teams ever had huevos IMO..

If they never had any they would have never won to two Super Bowls.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-12-2009, 09:18 PM
Except the 97 superbowl team.........we were dogs by like 2 TDs

which was ridiculous since we had better players at EVERY SINGLE POSITION. I was telling my buddies that before the game. I even showed em both starting lineups and asked em to show 1 position in which GB was better. Gilbert Brown was the only answer I got, but he was on his knees by halftime. They even concurred that N. Smith and A. Williams trumped Reggie White and his partner.

G_Money
01-12-2009, 09:28 PM
The Broncos had gone through a similar run when he hired Shanahan.

Shanahan called the plays through the SB years, on into the early '00s before handing that job to Kubiak.

Right or wrong, Shanahan is looking for a similar change that he got back in '95.

Yep. We were a top 5 passing team with a pretty good OC, a middle of the road running team, a terrible passing defense and an average run defense in 1994.

Now we're a top 5 passing team with a pretty good OC, a middle of the road running team, and a terrible passing AND running defense.

Elway had his lone 4000 yard passing season under Phillips and Fassel.

But they didn't bring him wins.

I don't have any problem fielding a team that gets Cutler lesser numbers but more wins.

As Michael Jordan how he felt about scoring fewer points and winning more championships.

Phil just had to make him believe, and buy in.

Here's hoping McDaniels is the next Shanahan, and he can do with Cutler what Shanny did with Elway: build him the team, and teach him the system, that will take him to the title.

~G

SmilinAssasSin27
01-12-2009, 09:31 PM
and how!

topscribe
01-12-2009, 09:35 PM
If they never had any they would have never won to two Super Bowls.

That's why I qualified my statement to "regular season." That 1997 crew, in
the postseason, displayed guts I had seldom seen before, winning AT Arrowhead,
then winning AT Three Rivers, and finally beating a Green Bay team that was
a three-touchdown favorite over Denver.

That's cajones.

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SmilinAssasSin27
01-12-2009, 09:36 PM
Or they were just better than everyone and decided that they would NOT drop 7 passes in their secondtrip to Pittsburgh.

TXBRONC
01-12-2009, 09:44 PM
That's why I qualified my statement to "regular season." That 1997 crew, in
the postseason, displayed guts I had seldom seen before, winning AT Arrowhead,
then winning AT Three Rivers, and finally beating a Green Bay team that was
a three-touchdown favorite over Denver.

That's cajones.

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I had no problem with what you said.

My post was simiply to say to JR that if none of Shanahan's team's ever huevios they would have never one two Super Bowls.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-12-2009, 09:46 PM
kidding, right?

Denver Native (Carol)
01-12-2009, 10:58 PM
For anyone who missed the press conference, or would like to hear it again, this appears to be the entire conference:

http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=51667@kcnc.dayport.com

honz
01-12-2009, 11:30 PM
For anyone who missed the press conference, or would like to hear it again, this appears to be the entire conference:

http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=51667@kcnc.dayport.com
Thanks, they didn't show it all on ESPN News.

underrated29
01-13-2009, 12:01 AM
i just skimmed through 15 pages or so waiting to see this bomb....................


All i saw was some that miss shanny, some that hate mcdaniels, no microphones in hallways and top speaking bad spanish (or so he says).


No where did i see this bomb.

omac
01-13-2009, 12:15 AM
Watched the early part of the press conference until it was buffering slowly for me. I liked a comment that he made that he's played Denver 5 times, and the schemes were different each time, so he plans to bring in consistency. We all want to see Denver stick to one overall defensive scheme, so the players could get good at it.

omac
01-13-2009, 12:23 AM
Though he hasn't chosen a DC yet, when he does come to an agreement with his eventual DC on where the defense should go, he will not base it on the players we have, but on what the defense should become, so he's thinking interim and long term.

That also makes me think he's leaning more towards acquiring the players he needs, than working on current defensive players' strengths and weaknesses. jmo.

Lonestar
01-13-2009, 12:47 AM
I continue to be amazed that people keep mentioning keeping this coach, that coach, hope how the "new coach" will keep the offensive system, etc etc etc.

This is a regime change.......NEW regime. They are NOT going to come in here and say.."well guys, you had a pretty good offense, I dont know it, but How about we keep it the same?".

Cutler is supposedly a smart guy, he can handle it. McDaniels has proven that his teams can move the ball......even with a (gasp), QB not named Tom Brady and a non 1st round draft choice RBs.


an amazing concept ..

You have to remember that a good portion of the members either do not know football other than madden or became Bronco fans when John lead this team to the super bowls 10-11 years ago.. they know nothing else other than mikey's ZBS..

It will take time for them to realize there are other ways to move a football down field..

Great post BTW

Lonestar
01-13-2009, 12:54 AM
Though he hasn't chosen a DC yet, when he does come to an agreement with his eventual DC on where the defense should go, he will not base it on the players we have, but on what the defense should become, so he's thinking interim and long term.

That also makes me think he's leaning more towards acquiring the players he needs, than working on current defensive players' strengths and weaknesses. jmo.

as every great coach should do have a plan and build towards it.. make everyone understand that winning at all costs today (expensive old FAs) is not necessarily what is best for the long term..

I suspect we will see a great focus on draft choices.. and have a clue the direction of the team after that..

Shazam!
01-13-2009, 01:30 AM
with that change I wonder if we get new uniforms this year.. sure would not hurt the image..

I made a Thread saying the same thing. Shanahan changed the unifroms in the 1997 season after the Jacksonville debacle (I think you have to give the League a one year notice? Am I wrong, idk?) I'd love to see new uniforms based on the old color scheme when orange was the dominant color and maybe update the :defense:. Most people here were against it, but still I've watched the Broncos for more years in those old uniforms than the new ones. They just feel... genuine.

This team needs a new identity, even a subtle change to the unifrom would be great.

The new McBroncos McUniform.

Lonestar
01-13-2009, 01:32 AM
I made a Thread saying the same thing. Shanahan changed the unifroms in the 1997 season after the Jacksonville debacle (thought I think you have to give the League a one year notice? Am I wrong?) I'd love to see new unifroms based on the old uniforms and the :defense:.

This team needs a new identity, even a subtle change to the unifrom would be great.

The new McBroncos McUniform.

wait till some of our ladies start calling him mcdreamy..

Shazam!
01-13-2009, 02:20 AM
I hope McDaniels has the McBroncos McDefense ready to McPlay at McInvesco, and I hope McCutler has a huge McGame on Sunday.

ikillz0mbies
01-13-2009, 02:24 AM
I hope McDaniels has the McBroncos McDefense ready to McPlay at McInvesco, and I hope McCutler has a huge McGame on Sunday.

It's McSunday. Get it right. And for every TD Peyton Hillis scores, he has to give the McMile McHigh McSalute.

fcspikeit
01-13-2009, 06:22 AM
I just watched the interview....

He was my second choice of the 7 named candidates. I was excited when we hired him. I have been saying all along we will be moving in a different direction on offense as well as defense. Knowing that, I would rather have had McDaniels over Spags. There was really no way of knowing where Spags would have taken us on offense? I don't see why you can't have an offense that scores 30 points a game and at the same time, have a D that only allows 13? I don't want to have a D that only allows 13 and an O that can only get around 13. We also know you can't win a lot of games with an explosive offense and a D that can't keep the opponent from putting up less then 30. I want both! After looking it over, I believe McDaniels gives us the best chance to achieve that.

With all that being said, I have somewhat of a mixed opinion of McDaniels after watching the interview..

First off, he is a bit arrogant. He better really be able to back that up or I can see him losing this team in a hurry...

I wonder if he can get along with Cutler? I hope they can develop a friendship first. Either that or again, he better be able to show why his way of doing things is better... There will be some friction there from the start if McDaniels, doesn't keep Bates on staff..

I thought he should have had more to say about Shanahan, After Elway and TD left this team, Shanahan has been the Broncos. I would think he would have touched on Shanahan a bit more if for no other reason, just to make the fans happy. Beings he didn't, I have to wonder, why didn't he feel that was important? Shouldn't winning over the fans be a huge priority to him?

He talked for over 30 minutes and he didn't really say anything, Just that he would do whatever he feels will give this team the best chance to win. Well duh.. I would have liked to hear how he plans to do that..

Here is another thing, I can't really put a finger on where this is coming from but it seems to me, he is focusing on being Denver's new coach, I don't know if he knows what it means to be the Broncos coach. Those of you who live in Denver might be saying, it's 6 one half dozen the other. For me though, there is a distinct difference... I am a fan of the Broncos, I am a fan of the organization and identity it has built over the years. Denver is just a city the Broncos call home. If the Broncos moved to Alaska and Denver got an expansion team, I would root for the Alaskan Broncos :D

I am not yet sold on McDaniels. He will have to prove to me he knows more then Shanahan did, he will have to prove to me he knows more then all those he is "teaching". I hope he does a better job convincing this team he is the right man with the right plan then he did me. At least they will have the luxury of knowing what that plan is. :D

I hope he will be able to show everyone why he was brought in. The staff he sets up will go a long way in doing that..

Also, it's to bad with everything he picked up from BB, he couldn't have left the smack in NE, that drives me nuts! He only seemed to do it when he was really thinking about what to say, Either he didn't have an answer or he didn't want to say the wrong thing. I'm sure he was nervous, hopefully as he gets more comfortable, he wont come across as defensive and confrontational... That's another of my pet peeves with BB.

In closing, I can't believe I'm saying this, Winning isn't the only thing. It's just the way he kept saying that, Like if all he does is win games in Denver that will be enough. IMO, he has to build a relationship with the Denver fans, and all the Broncos fans throughout the world.

I guess I would have liked for him to have said, "I have big shoes to fill, I understand how the Broncos faithful felt about Mike Shanahan, the person and coach, I believe they will come to know and respect me as a person and football coach, for what I bring to the Broncos and to the city of Denver. I will work to build that relationship." Was it just me or did he really come across as his only job is to just win football games?

5 years from now, I want to like him for more then just being a winning coach... IMO, he should care about how the Broncos fan's feel about him. Not saying that he don't, but he really didn't do or say anything to build a relationship with the fans....

OK... I am done nit picking :D :beer:

gobroncsnv
01-13-2009, 07:47 AM
Well, I think Shanny "knows" more than any coach remaining in the playoffs this year, and I am a big fan of his. But it became obvious that a change was needed when we couldn't win any one of the last few games to get in the playoffs.

I also hope that Bowlen makes sure that McDaniels gets to be the coach, and not worry about egos of qb's or others. The coach needs to run the team, once we have it in place, and Jay needs to get in line with it. If he can go running off to Bowlen because he had to take a lap after throwing another pick in the red zone, then we can't begin to say that we gave our new coach an honest chance. I think Pat needs to be sure to keep his distance on this, so that Mc has a chance to do things his way, otherwise, we just became the Raiders.

And we should probably back off the "Mc" stuff... the Chargers already have the golden arches on their helmets.

Dirk
01-13-2009, 08:00 AM
And we should probably back off the "Mc" stuff... the Chargers already have the golden arches on their helmets.


HA! golden arches....

But wait...he IS McKid man...the Mc is a part of his name so we are gonna have to come up with something. I mean Shanny became the beloved nick of our last coach...so the Mc has to be incorporated into a new name for him...

I just say McKid for now....if he surprises with next season, he may be the McWonder. How knows...

And yes I am a lot older than he is so I can call him kid as well. :D

TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 08:06 AM
Thanks, they didn't show it all on ESPN News.

I guess it's not as important as Tony Dungy retiring.

Tned
01-13-2009, 08:23 AM
I guess it's not as important Tony Dungy retiring.

Actually, I noticed talk about the Broncos job falling off as the week went by. It was a HUGE story when Shanahan was fired, but the story about who would be the replacement lost steam quickly, with the focus turning to the teams in the playoffs.

Shanahan was a huge story, McDaniels being hired is just business as usual, an NFL team hiring a new coach.

Nomad
01-13-2009, 08:26 AM
Thanks, they didn't show it all on ESPN News.

I caught a little of the interview on NFLN, but nothing on ESPNNEWS or FSRM (Poker Tournament was more important).

As far as people wanting all the details, I'm sure once he gets his staff in place he may say. Why does he have to tell people what he's gonna do because they're (couch qbs) gonna nitpick his plans anyway as if they're much more qualified.

Nomad
01-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Actually, I noticed talk about the Broncos job falling off as the week went by. It was a HUGE story when Shanahan was fired, but the story about who would be the replacement lost steam quickly, with the focus turning to the teams in the playoffs.

Shanahan was a huge story, McDaniels being hired is just business as usual, an NFL team hiring a new coach.

I find most analysts are saying he's too young. Between Dungy and the MLB HOF, this is what the news will be!! I was kinda surprised by TD's reaction and look on his face!

roomemp
01-13-2009, 08:34 AM
I just watched the interview....

He was my second choice of the 7 named candidates. I was excited when we hired him. I have been saying all along we will be moving in a different direction on offense as well as defense. Knowing that, I would rather have had McDaniels over Spags. There was really no way of knowing where Spags would have taken us on offense? I don't see why you can't have an offense that scores 30 points a game and at the same time, have a D that only allows 13? I don't want to have a D that only allows 13 and an O that can only get around 13. We also know you can't win a lot of games with an explosive offense and a D that can't keep the opponent from putting up less then 30. I want both! After looking it over, I believe McDaniels gives us the best chance to achieve that.

With all that being said, I have somewhat of a mixed opinion of McDaniels after watching the interview..

First off, he is a bit arrogant. He better really be able to back that up or I can see him losing this team in a hurry...

I wonder if he can get along with Cutler? I hope they can develop a friendship first. Either that or again, he better be able to show why his way of doing things is better... There will be some friction there from the start if McDaniels, doesn't keep Bates on staff..

I thought he should have had more to say about Shanahan, After Elway and TD left this team, Shanahan has been the Broncos. I would think he would have touched on Shanahan a bit more if for no other reason, just to make the fans happy. Beings he didn't, I have to wonder, why didn't he feel that was important? Shouldn't winning over the fans be a huge priority to him?

He talked for over 30 minutes and he didn't really say anything, Just that he would do whatever he feels will give this team the best chance to win. Well duh.. I would have liked to hear how he plans to do that..

Here is another thing, I can't really put a finger on where this is coming from but it seems to me, he is focusing on being Denver's new coach, I don't know if he knows what it means to be the Broncos coach. Those of you who live in Denver might be saying, it's 6 one half dozen the other. For me though, there is a distinct difference... I am a fan of the Broncos, I am a fan of the organization and identity it has built over the years. Denver is just a city the Broncos call home. If the Broncos moved to Alaska and Denver got an expansion team, I would root for the Alaskan Broncos :D

I am not yet sold on McDaniels. He will have to prove to me he knows more then Shanahan did, he will have to prove to me he knows more then all those he is "teaching". I hope he does a better job convincing this team he is the right man with the right plan then he did me. At least they will have the luxury of knowing what that plan is. :D

I hope he will be able to show everyone why he was brought in. The staff he sets up will go a long way in doing that..

Also, it's to bad with everything he picked up from BB, he couldn't have left the smack in NE, that drives me nuts! He only seemed to do it when he was really thinking about what to say, Either he didn't have an answer or he didn't want to say the wrong thing. I'm sure he was nervous, hopefully as he gets more comfortable, he wont come across as defensive and confrontational... That's another of my pet peeves with BB.

In closing, I can't believe I'm saying this, Winning isn't the only thing. It's just the way he kept saying that, Like if all he does is win games in Denver that will be enough. IMO, he has to build a relationship with the Denver fans, and all the Broncos fans throughout the world.

I guess I would have liked for him to have said, "I have big shoes to fill, I understand how the Broncos faithful felt about Mike Shanahan, the person and coach, I believe they will come to know and respect me as a person and football coach, for what I bring to the Broncos and to the city of Denver. I will work to build that relationship." Was it just me or did he really come across as his only job is to just win football games?

5 years from now, I want to like him for more then just being a winning coach... IMO, he should care about how the Broncos fan's feel about him. Not saying that he don't, but he really didn't do or say anything to build a relationship with the fans....

OK... I am done nit picking :D :beer:

I am glad he didn't really touch on the Shanny thing. Remember Shanny is a legend just as Elway is. McDaniels does not want to live in the shadows of Shanny much like Cutler does not want to live in the shadows of Elway. This is his team now....Not Shanny's. As for him saying winning is everything. He is 100% correct. I don't know about most of you guys but it is killing me not to watch the Broncos in the playoffs. The guy is going to be fine. He is going to take us to new heights much like Shanny did in the mid to late 90's. We as fans need to give him space and let him breath. We need to give him some time to prove himself before we judge him. I liked the press conference and the way he presented himself. He was modest but still confident. Welcome to Denver Mr. McDaniels and family :salute:

Bozo Jr.
01-13-2009, 08:49 AM
I had mixed feelings at first because I'm not a fan NE to say the least, but after getting introduced to McD at the presser I now have more confidence in the decision.

Mr. McDaniels please beat the snot out of San Diego twice a year for the next 15 years. Signed, Bozo Jr. :salute:

Bozo Jr.
01-13-2009, 08:50 AM
I find most analysts are saying he's too young. Between Dungy and the MLB HOF, this is what the news will be!! I was kinda surprised by TD's reaction and look on his face!

true, TD was acting like a little b*#$% lololol.

Bozo Jr.
01-13-2009, 08:52 AM
I guess it's not as important Tony Dungy retiring.

I guess not huh? I had a feeling he would go. Indy welcome your new HC Mike Shanahan.

broncofaninfla
01-13-2009, 09:17 AM
I thought he handles himsef well, liked what he had to say, excited about the teams future. One concern is him keeping Bates though, sounds pretty iffy right now. Maybe as the QB coach?

SoCalImport
01-13-2009, 09:20 AM
I thought he handles himsef well, liked what he had to say, excited about the teams future. One concern is him keeping Bates though, sounds pretty iffy right now. Maybe as the QB coach?

It's been said that Cutler made a request/demand that Bates stay on. It probably will be as QB coach, but if it's as OC, then I'd be worried.

broncofaninfla
01-13-2009, 09:21 AM
It's been said that Cutler made a request/demand that Bates stay on. It probably will be as QB coach, but if it's as OC, then I'd be worried.

True, Mcd made it clear he will be calling the plays.

TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 09:34 AM
I thought he handles himsef well, liked what he had to say, excited about the teams future. One concern is him keeping Bates though, sounds pretty iffy right now. Maybe as the QB coach?

While it doesn't happen all the time, it isn't completely uncommon for new head to retain a member or two from the previous coaching staff.

GEM
01-13-2009, 10:20 AM
Become a leader? Well give him a chance first. Jesus. Lets not fry him up right away. He's going to change the defense entirely - good! He's going to bring experience from an organization who has won 3 Superbowls in the past decade. Who knows what he'll do to the offense? Last time I checked he was the offensive coordinator who helped set record breaking numbers and worked with a QB who hasn't started a game since high school and was still able to manage an 11-5 record.

I don't know if its set in yet, but JOSH MCDANIELS is the NEW head coach of the Broncos. It's his team now... Would it suck to see the offense change and tweaked? Yes. But who is going to complain with a winning formula. I would rather see the Broncos advance to the post-season for once even if it means a new style of play - and I think the same goes for the players. No one complains with the style of an offense when a team is winning and yet, some people are already convinced that a scheme that hasn't even yet been presented to us - is going to fail... elevate Cutler and the players around him - look at his track record. With the players we have, the talent level on offense - I don't think so...


My favorite Broncos year (regular season) is still 1977.

If the Broncos were supposed to win, they did.

If they weren't supposed to win, they still did.

I would love to see that kind of cajones here again . . .

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And I want to see a Gradishar type running the field and hurting people. Is that so much to ask from your MLB? :D Goodness sakes, when I watched that 1977 championship game I salivated watching him.

Medford Bronco
01-13-2009, 10:24 AM
And I want to see a Gradishar type running the field and hurting people. Is that so much to ask from your MLB? :D Goodness sakes, when I watched that 1977 championship game I salivated watching him.

Heck I would take Al Wilson and John Mobley healthy now over these guys any day of the week.

but the 77 LBs were awesome. :salute:

broncofaninfla
01-13-2009, 10:30 AM
Gardishar, Jackson, Thompson, Wright, Alzado, Carter, Chavous, Rizzo, Swenson....loved those guys!!

TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 10:31 AM
Heck I would take Al Wilson and John Mobley healthy now over these guys any day of the week.

but the 77 LBs were awesome. :salute:

Wilson was a very good leader but he wasn't a great tackler.

GEM
01-13-2009, 10:33 AM
Heck I would take Al Wilson and John Mobley healthy now over these guys any day of the week.

but the 77 LBs were awesome. :salute:

I love the LB position. All of my favorite players have always been LB's. I love the brutality that they portray if they do their job right.

TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Gardishar, Jackson, Thompson, Wright, Alzado, Carter, Chavous, Rizzo, Swenson....loved those guys!!

Indeed, they were a lot of fun to watch.

topscribe
01-13-2009, 03:49 PM
Wilson was a very good leader but he wasn't a great tackler.

Nope, he just knocked people silly, that's all . . .

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TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 03:53 PM
Nope, he just knocked people silly, that's all . . .

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No doubt he jacked up quite a few opponents but he still wasn't a very good tackler.

GEM
01-13-2009, 04:02 PM
No doubt he jacked up quite a few opponents but he still wasn't a very good tackler.

Like so many other LB's these days, he was an arm tackler. He whiffed a lot because he didn't wrap up. He could put a hurting on people though. Unlike Webster who thinks he can but gets ran over. :rolleyes:

topscribe
01-13-2009, 04:05 PM
No doubt he jacked up quite a few opponents but he still wasn't a very good tackler.

Probably what helped AW a lot was his support cast: D.J. and Gold (when Gold
was good). At any rate, any offensive player knew it was going to be violent
in the middle. If you can put a little bit of hesitation into a player, you hurt his
effectiveness against you.

Give me a MLB who will explode all over the ball carrier, and will be there to do it . . .

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TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Like so many other LB's these days, he was an arm tackler. He whiffed a lot because he didn't wrap up. He could put a hurting on people though. Unlike Webster who thinks he can but gets ran over. :rolleyes:

Agreed even though Wilson missed tackles now and then I would have rather had him than Webster. There is just no two ways about Webster was horrible mike linebacker. In fact I was hoping that with way Larsen was playing that would have kept in the starting line up.

TXBRONC
01-13-2009, 04:11 PM
Probably what helped AW a lot was his support cast: D.J. and Gold (when Gold
was good). At any rate, any offensive player knew it was going to be violent
in the middle. If you can put a little bit of hesitation into a player, you hurt his
effectiveness against you.

Give me a MLB who will explode all over the ball carrier, and will be there to do it . . .

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I don't know Top exploding all over a ball carrier doesn't sound sanitary and might even lead to a fine. :D

Medford Bronco
01-13-2009, 04:13 PM
Wilson was a very good leader but he wasn't a great tackler.

much better than the chumps we had last season TX

topscribe
01-13-2009, 04:19 PM
much better than the chumps we had last season TX

Well, the chump, anyway. D.J. did a great job before his injury, and Winborn
was solid, although not great. But when I saw Webster run up and look upfield
at something (to this day, I can't imagine what) while the RB blew right past
him, and Webster didn't even glance at him, I knew something was wrong with
Webster.

Seriously wrong . . . :tsk:

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Lonestar
01-13-2009, 04:34 PM
yes we did not have stellar LB's last year. but then almost no one on D had a clue..

I like Woodyard DJ and Winborn was OK the rest of them are at best back up or ST types..

Webster is dumpster material IMO..

I'd much rather have Woodyard playing SS in the old scheme but now all of that is totally open for debate..

Until we know what schemes are going to be used we could conceivably be looking at a totally new group of defensive player save for Champ and maybe DJ over the next 2 or 3 years..

I would hate to lose the athletic ability of Woodyard and Barrett as I think they could find a home somewhere on the team.. but Dick or Dom will have to make those decisions now thank GOD that Boob is gone..

GEM
01-13-2009, 05:11 PM
When the new DC comes in, there is no way to just trash ALL the players. So my suggestion is to keep all the rookies, DJ, Champ perhaps Bly and just trash the rest of them. :D

Lonestar
01-13-2009, 05:16 PM
When the new DC comes in, there is no way to just trash ALL the players. So my suggestion is to keep all the rookies, DJ, Champ perhaps Bly and just trash the rest of them. :D

I'm going to guess that we load up in the DL and LB portion in the draft..

and we will have to keep some of the slugs for the next few years if for no other reason than back up or rotational players but then that concept might go out the window with mikey..

But I'd guess that 2011 season most of todays veterans (not counting the 2006 draft and newer)will be long gone..

GEM
01-13-2009, 05:21 PM
I'm going to guess that we load up in the DL and LB portion in the draft..

and we will have to keep some of the slugs for the next few years if for no other reason than back up or rotational players but then that concept might go out the window with mikey..

But I'd guess that 2011 season most of todays veterans (not counting the 2006 draft and newer)will be long gone..

If they can't get Woodyard in at Safety they will need some help there. There is no way on God's green earth I can handle another year of McMoron and Manuel. I can deal with DJ and Winborn, no way in hell Webster. So here's where I see it. We give Thomas, Moss, Dum a shot on DL, perhaps keep Ekuban. Keep Winborn and DJ. We'll have absolute needs on pass rusher, MLB and Safety. Those are just absolute necessities. Keep our rookies in and give them a shot for starting position on places we can't get a quality FA at low cost or a great rookie through draft. I can't help but think as to how we go without addressing Safety.

pnbronco
01-13-2009, 05:33 PM
Agreed even though Wilson missed tackles now and then I would have rather had him than Webster. There is just no two ways about Webster was horrible mike linebacker. In fact I was hoping that with way Larsen was playing that would have kept in the starting line up.

Larsen was hurt more than I think people knew. I miss Al so much for so many different reasons.

BeefStew25
01-13-2009, 05:34 PM
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Lonestar
01-13-2009, 05:52 PM
If they can't get Woodyard in at Safety they will need some help there. There is no way on God's green earth I can handle another year of McMoron and McManuel. I can deal with McDJ and McWinborn, no way in hell Webster. So here's where I see it. We give McThomas, McMoss, McDum a shot on DL, perhaps keep McEkuban. Keep Winborn and DJ. We'll have absolute needs on pass rusher, MLB and Safety. Those are just absolute necessities. Keep our Mcrookies in and give them a shot for starting position on places we can't get a quality FA at low cost or a great rookie through draft. I can't help but think as to how we go without addressing Safety.

edited for accuracy other wise a great post.. you forgot Mcmacree

GEM
01-13-2009, 06:03 PM
edited for accuracy other wise a great post.. you forgot Mcmacree

McCree is McMoron. :D :laugh:

Lonestar
01-13-2009, 06:08 PM
McCree is McMoron. :D :laugh:

must have missed it or got confused as most of the DEF could have been him.. :salute:

thanks for setting me straight on it..

SmilinAssasSin27
01-13-2009, 06:13 PM
yes we did not have stellar LB's last year. but then almost no one on D had a clue..

I like Woodyard DJ and Winborn was OK the rest of them are at best back up or ST types..

Webster is dumpster material IMO..

I'd much rather have Woodyard playing SS in the old scheme but now all of that is totally open for debate..

Until we know what schemes are going to be used we could conceivably be looking at a totally new group of defensive player save for Champ and maybe DJ over the next 2 or 3 years..

I would hate to lose the athletic ability of Woodyard and Barrett as I think they could find a home somewhere on the team.. but Dick or Dom will have to make those decisions now thank GOD that Boob is gone..

Wes can't play in a 3-4 as a LB. WAY too small. I think he's worth a look at Safety though.

dogfish
03-18-2009, 10:42 AM
so we're trading cutler and bringing in cassel?



:confused:




lol. . . . somebody just gave me a MHS for this post. . . . not so funny in hindsight, huh?




:doh:

fcspikeit
03-18-2009, 10:53 AM
FWIW, a fairly repuitable poster at the Mane said that Bowlen is about to drop a bomb at the press conference...beats the heck out of me, but I've been told he actually does know someone in Dove Valley, or something of the sort...


so we're trading cutler and bringing in cassel?



:confused:

:tsk:

I wonder if McDaniels was planning on trading Cutler even as far back as this..


A bit more meat would have been great.. Something like, what is your overall assessment of the defense so far? How many of these turds do you think will be back next year?

What are your thoughts on cutler and Marshall's performance at the Probowl? Are you considering trading for Cassel? Are you interested in making a move for Boldin?

How bad in your assessment did the Nate suck last year?

Specific stuff, the general questions are to easy to answer :D

I really wish they would have asked that..

G_Money's thoughts after watching McDaniels Press Conference


Why would McDaniels just keep our whole offensive scheme? Maybe a defensive coach would have, maybe.

Schemes change when coaches change. The question is whether he will ditch the ZBS model we've had since forever. My guess is we'll lose a bit of it, but he can't ditch it without chucking much of our OL personnel. We're built to be a ZBS system.

McDaniels has proved over the last 3 years that he's flexible. I'm optimistic that he will remain flexible and you will see several holdovers. A good coach shores up his own weaknesses.

What weaknesses would you consider McDaniels to have?

Lack of head coaching experience, obviously, so I'd like to see him bring in at least one former head coach to help keep him from stepping in obvious potholes.

Lack of familiarity with multiple systems. He's been with NE running that scheme his whole pro career. He's been putting wrinkles in it but that's what he knows. Still, this is what Shanahan knows, and doing that over and over worked okay for us. I would still think he'll keep either Bates or Turner to see if he can add a few more pieces to his offensive pie.

It's hard to tell a lot from a press conference. He seems smart, he's a decent talker, he's got a lot of intensity burning away under that giant head of his.

I feel the same about his hiring now as I did before the presser: he's the guy who's got to make it work. He's very young, he's been very good, and now we'll see whether he's got the chops to step up to head coach.

I hope his eye for coaches is a good one. He wants to bring continuity of scheme to all sides of the ball, and for that he'll need good schemes and good schemers.

Once we see who we add to the staff I can start to get a better idea of how the 2009-and-beyond Broncos are gonna shape up.

For right now, we just had a good speech. That'll get me through to tomorrow.

~G

Nolan didn't seem to help G :sad:

My thoughts after watching McDaniels press conference..


I just watched the interview....

He was my second choice of the 7 named candidates. I was excited when we hired him. I have been saying all along we will be moving in a different direction on offense as well as defense. Knowing that, I would rather have had McDaniels over Spags. There was really no way of knowing where Spags would have taken us on offense? I don't see why you can't have an offense that scores 30 points a game and at the same time, have a D that only allows 13? I don't want to have a D that only allows 13 and an O that can only get around 13. We also know you can't win a lot of games with an explosive offense and a D that can't keep the opponent from putting up less then 30. I want both! After looking it over, I believe McDaniels gives us the best chance to achieve that.

With all that being said, I have somewhat of a mixed opinion of McDaniels after watching the interview..

First off, he is a bit arrogant. He better really be able to back that up or I can see him losing this team in a hurry...

I wonder if he can get along with Cutler? I hope they can develop a friendship first. Either that or again, he better be able to show why his way of doing things is better... There will be some friction there from the start if McDaniels, doesn't keep Bates on staff..

I thought he should have had more to say about Shanahan, After Elway and TD left this team, Shanahan has been the Broncos. I would think he would have touched on Shanahan a bit more if for no other reason, just to make the fans happy. Beings he didn't, I have to wonder, why didn't he feel that was important? Shouldn't winning over the fans be a huge priority to him?

He talked for over 30 minutes and he didn't really say anything, Just that he would do whatever he feels will give this team the best chance to win. Well duh.. I would have liked to hear how he plans to do that..

Here is another thing, I can't really put a finger on where this is coming from but it seems to me, he is focusing on being Denver's new coach, I don't know if he knows what it means to be the Broncos coach. Those of you who live in Denver might be saying, it's 6 one half dozen the other. For me though, there is a distinct difference... I am a fan of the Broncos, I am a fan of the organization and identity it has built over the years. Denver is just a city the Broncos call home. If the Broncos moved to Alaska and Denver got an expansion team, I would root for the Alaskan Broncos :D

I am not yet sold on McDaniels. He will have to prove to me he knows more then Shanahan did, he will have to prove to me he knows more then all those he is "teaching". I hope he does a better job convincing this team he is the right man with the right plan then he did me. At least they will have the luxury of knowing what that plan is. :D

I hope he will be able to show everyone why he was brought in. The staff he sets up will go a long way in doing that..

Also, it's to bad with everything he picked up from BB, he couldn't have left the smack in NE, that drives me nuts! He only seemed to do it when he was really thinking about what to say, Either he didn't have an answer or he didn't want to say the wrong thing. I'm sure he was nervous, hopefully as he gets more comfortable, he wont come across as defensive and confrontational... That's another of my pet peeves with BB.

In closing, I can't believe I'm saying this, Winning isn't the only thing. It's just the way he kept saying that, Like if all he does is win games in Denver that will be enough. IMO, he has to build a relationship with the Denver fans, and all the Broncos fans throughout the world.

I guess I would have liked for him to have said, "I have big shoes to fill, I understand how the Broncos faithful felt about Mike Shanahan, the person and coach, I believe they will come to know and respect me as a person and football coach, for what I bring to the Broncos and to the city of Denver. I will work to build that relationship." Was it just me or did he really come across as his only job is to just win football games?

5 years from now, I want to like him for more then just being a winning coach... IMO, he should care about how the Broncos fan's feel about him. Not saying that he don't, but he really didn't do or say anything to build a relationship with the fans....

OK... I am done nit picking :D :beer: