Let's All Work To Make This Work . . .

[topscribe]

We're having a good time right now, with Tned having created a board that
promises much more than any other we've seen . . . we hope. It is a fan-based,
fan-run board that will depend on the desires and happiness of its members.

We must understand that the honeymoon will soon be over, and the real world
will set in. We will see disagreements and even quarrels, and other sources of
dissatisfaction here. It may be a cliché that you can't please everyone, but
that saying has stuck around for the centuries because it is true. You won't
like some things, and I won't, either. But we will have to live with a few
inconveniences and dislikes because . . . well, others to like them.

What I see coming into the board at this moment are mature, well established
board members. We are the core, the charter members. We need to help
where we can, setting examples and providing encouragement and correction
where appropriate because all future members will not be so mature and
established.

So let's join in together, as FRIENDS, and stay that way, and make this
board a success. Remember, more message boards fail than succeed, so we
need to work as one to make sure we fall into the latter category.

I say this with love . . . seriously.

Larry

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[anton...]

if it fails...





we still have broncomania...

;)

_____________

i totally agree with you, i would like to see this work...

so lets hope it does...

love

anton
________
Weed Bubblers (http://bubblers.net/)

[Tned]

Well said, Top.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Great post Top - I am REALLY excited about this board :)

[broncosinindy]

i just wanna say way to go tned. I learned my lesson from BM The P&R thread is out of the question for me. It gave me a bad taste in my mouth for some posters that i really liked outside of it. that and the micheal vick threads ggrrr.

For the most part i dont hold grudges and love to talk football.... looks like i came to the right place.

A plea from a serf please keep trolls out:)

Go Broncos!

[Tned]

i just wanna say way to go tned. I learned my lesson from BM The P&R thread is out of the question for me. It gave me a bad taste in my mouth for some posters that i really liked outside of it. that and the micheal vick threads ggrrr.

For the most part i dont hold grudges and love to talk football.... looks like i came to the right place.

A plea from a serf please keep trolls out:)

Go Broncos!

We'll do our best with the trolls.

Yea, I was always only an occaissional P&R poster. Some subjects I simply refused to even take part in. I would see the subject and avoid it. I think it was up for a couple months before I posted for the first time. It is a dangerous subject area, but some really like it. I think the people that post there have to do so knowing things will get heated and agree to debate to their hearts content, but not hold grudges or harbor ill feelings based on the debates.

[keithbishop]

I look forward to a new start on the P&R threads, too. Funny thing.... when P&R returned elsewhere, I was happy to see them back, posted in them once or twice, then decided I'd rather sit it out than to enter into the hatred and grudges that were so prevalent.

[topscribe]

I look forward to a new start on the P&R threads, too. Funny thing.... when P&R returned elsewhere, I was happy to see them back, posted in them once or twice, then decided I'd rather sit it out than to enter into the hatred and grudges that were so prevalent.
Yes, but we should not mistake a heated debate as "hatred."

For instance, you would have thought Mtnman and I didn't like each other
much, from some of the debates we had. Yet he has become one of my best
friends, on and off the board. NUB and I got into some donnybrooks, too, yet
it was obvious at other times we were board friends.

I guess that is the biggest challenge to moderating: whether it is the "game"
they are playing, or whether it is really getting serious. But you probably did it
right: If the other party appears to be getting a little too serious, it is time to
walk away.

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[WTE]

A plea from a serf please keep trolls out:)



We'll have to make sure Trolls don't find out about this place. :D

~looks up the e-mail for PatsR~

[TXBRONC]

I agree I hope we can make this a great board I know it can be successful but its going to take a lot of work.

[Tned]

I agree I hope we can make this a great board I know it can be successful but its going to take a lot of work.

Yep, both in getting an active membership, AND in all of us setting the right tone in terms of how people act.

[Jody]

Yes, but we should not mistake a heated debate as "hatred."

For instance, you would have thought Mtnman and I didn't like each other
much, from some of the debates we had. Yet he has become one of my best
friends, on and off the board. NUB and I got into some donnybrooks, too, yet
it was obvious at other times we were board friends.

I guess that is the biggest challenge to moderating: whether it is the "game"
they are playing, or whether it is really getting serious. But you probably did it
right: If the other party appears to be getting a little too serious, it is time to
walk away.

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That's stated perfectly tops! I don't know how many times I left a P&R discussion with raised blood pressure, but the minute I crossed over into another forum, with that same poster - I felt like his buddy. You HAVE to separate the two from disagreeing on one, two or five issues. It's worth maintaining the friendship that brought you together in the first place. It's not personal in P&R, it's P&R, and everyone has strong feelings about P&R if they have a pulse (hopefully). :D

[Skinny]

Great post top. I would'nt had expected anything less from you. You have always (in my short time posting with you) come across to me as someone who's easy to get along with and open minded to others opinions. While at the same time, having a strong beleif in your own and standing on it.

That can easily be said about alot of people here on this site.

I feel that i'm very fortunate in the P&R discussion area, because i don't do politics!:D

As far as religion.......i'm blessed.


We'll have to make sure Trolls don't find out about this place. :D

~looks up the e-mail for PatsR~Trolls??

*looks for the iggy button*

[topscribe]

We'll have to make sure Trolls don't find out about this place. :D

~looks up the e-mail for PatsR~
mmm-hmmm . . . and what is it "WTE" stands for? :D

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[topscribe]

That's stated perfectly tops! I don't know how many times I left a P&R discussion with raised blood pressure, but the minute I crossed over into another forum, with that same poster - I felt like his buddy. You HAVE to separate the two from disagreeing on one, two or five issues. It's worth maintaining the friendship that brought you together in the first place. It's not personal in P&R, it's P&R, and everyone has strong feelings about P&R if they have a pulse (hopefully). :D
Awww . . . you could be a buddy to anybody, HW! :)

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[anton...]

i only have strong opinions about apple and fig stroodle, communism, and minority ethnic groups...
________
red headed Cam (http://www.girlcamfriend.com/webcam/redhead-girls/)

[Az Snake]

We're having a good time right now, with Tned having created a board that
promises much more than any other we've seen . . . we hope. It is a fan-based,
fan-run board that will depend on the desires and happiness of its members.

We must understand that the honeymoon will soon be over, and the real world
will set in. We will see disagreements and even quarrels, and other sources of
dissatisfaction here. It may be a cliché that you can't please everyone, but
that saying has stuck around for the centuries because it is true. You won't
like some things, and I won't, either. But we will have to live with a few
inconveniences and dislikes because . . . well, others to like them.

What I see coming into the board at this moment are mature, well established
board members. We are the core, the charter members. We need to help
where we can, setting examples and providing encouragement and correction
where appropriate because all future members will not be so mature and
established.

So let's join in together, as FRIENDS, and stay that way, and make this
board a success. Remember, more message boards fail than succeed, so we
need to work as one to make sure we fall into the latter category.

I say this with love . . . seriously.

Larry

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What a load !. . . seriously, watch out for the real world !!!


:eek:




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[Requiem / The Dagda]

I know a lot of people here have a severe dislike for me (for whatever reasons) but I'm here to help the community grow, help Tnedator with the design and to post whatever knowledge I can bring to the table. Where a lot of you might never be "friends" with me, here's to extending a branch of civility towards one another and on this new site, wiping the slate clean.

[topscribe]

I know a lot of people here have a severe dislike for me (for whatever reasons) but I'm here to help the community grow, help Tnedator with the design and to post whatever knowledge I can bring to the table. Where a lot of you might never be "friends" with me, here's to extending a branch of civility towards one another and on this new site, wiping the slate clean.
There is nobody here with a severe dislike for you.

That is there. We are not there. We don't care what you were or they were there.

Now it's up to you, as it is to every one of us here.

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[Tned]

I know a lot of people here have a severe dislike for me (for whatever reasons) but I'm here to help the community grow, help Tnedator with the design and to post whatever knowledge I can bring to the table. Where a lot of you might never be "friends" with me, here's to extending a branch of civility towards one another and on this new site, wiping the slate clean.

Nice post, Dream. I think all of us have to be willing to let others start with a clean slate, and be willing to clean off our own, dump our old baggage.

We have all at times gone too far, and said things that in reality we shouldn't have. I am guilty. I made a comment on BM just this past weekend that I am not proud of.

I know some of you have asked about the COC, what is acceptable, and stuff like that. While we will have something 'official' on that soon, here are my personal thoughts.

While I heard many times on BM from various people, something like, "it's just the Internet, people shouldn't take it serious" or "being civil isn't necessary, because this is the Internet" or similar statements, I hope that 'approach' doesn't take hold here.

IMO, if each of us took the approach that we wouldn't type something that we wouldn't be willing to say to someone's face, without this shield of anonymity, then I think that would go a long way to avoid some of the bad blood that occurred on BM.

[TXBRONC]

I know a lot of people here have a severe dislike for me (for whatever reasons) but I'm here to help the community grow, help Tnedator with the design and to post whatever knowledge I can bring to the table. Where a lot of you might never be "friends" with me, here's to extending a branch of civility towards one another and on this new site, wiping the slate clean.

I think the basic gist of any CoC is treat each other with respect. Are there going be heated discussions on this board? I would image so, but we can still work on not lobbing personal attack grenades at each other.

[keithbishop]

Yes, but we should not mistake a heated debate as "hatred."

For instance, you would have thought Mtnman and I didn't like each other
much, from some of the debates we had. Yet he has become one of my best
friends, on and off the board. NUB and I got into some donnybrooks, too, yet
it was obvious at other times we were board friends.

I guess that is the biggest challenge to moderating: whether it is the "game"
they are playing, or whether it is really getting serious. But you probably did it
right: If the other party appears to be getting a little too serious, it is time to
walk away.

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Understood, but there is a line I wasn't comfortable crossing. In those situations, it's best to go with intuition and avoid the fight.

Example TKO's debate in those cases.

[keithbishop]

There is nobody here with a severe dislike for you.

That is there. We are not there. We don't care what you were or they were there.

Now it's up to you, as it is to every one of us here.

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Speak for yourself, Brother Larry. I LOATHE Dream. :mad:

Just pulling your chain, of course, Dream. Respect doesn't always mean agreement. Clean slate for one and all. Besides, I only carry grudges against red sox fans. ;)

BTW, Dream: Jerry had his first scrimmage last night. He's playing OG and DT and the season starts a week from Saturday. He told me he wants to switch to baseball next season and I assured him it's his call. He can play any sport... or no sport. I just want him to have fun and learn sportsmanship and the importance of teamwork. He's a winner regardless of the score.

[sneakers]

We'll do our best with the trolls.

Yea, I was always only an occaissional P&R poster. Some subjects I simply refused to even take part in. I would see the subject and avoid it. I think it was up for a couple months before I posted for the first time. It is a dangerous subject area, but some really like it. I think the people that post there have to do so knowing things will get heated and agree to debate to their hearts content, but not hold grudges or harbor ill feelings based on the debates.

It is really hard to not think differently about a certain poster after you duke it out in the P&R...That is one thing that I hate about the P&R.

[Tned-Mobile]

It is really hard to not think differently about a certain poster after you duke it out in the P&R...That is one thing that I hate about the P&R.

I know it can be, but you just have to remember politics and religion are topics that arouse a ton of emotion, and realize that tempers flare and viewponts are often vastly different.

[Broncomania96]

I think the basic gist of any CoC is treat each other with respect. Are there going be heated discussions on this board? I would image so, but we can still work on not lobbing personal attack grenades at each other.

I agree with that, just treat each other with respect, and when we do argue think about what we say and how others may interpret it.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I know a lot of people here have a severe dislike for me (for whatever reasons) but I'm here to help the community grow, help Tnedator with the design and to post whatever knowledge I can bring to the table. Where a lot of you might never be "friends" with me, here's to extending a branch of civility towards one another and on this new site, wiping the slate clean.

GREAT post Dream - LET'S ALL OF US JUST HAVE FUN :)

[BroncoBJ]

There is nobody here with a severe dislike for you.


Dont say Nobody. Just playing.
I dont got a problem with anyone though and I will try to help make this place Grow as well.

Good posts everybody.

[frenchfan]

We're having a good time right now, with Tned having created a board that
promises much more than any other we've seen . . . we hope. It is a fan-based,
fan-run board that will depend on the desires and happiness of its members.

We must understand that the honeymoon will soon be over, and the real world
will set in. We will see disagreements and even quarrels, and other sources of
dissatisfaction here. It may be a cliché that you can't please everyone, but
that saying has stuck around for the centuries because it is true. You won't
like some things, and I won't, either. But we will have to live with a few
inconveniences and dislikes because . . . well, others to like them.

What I see coming into the board at this moment are mature, well established
board members. We are the core, the charter members. We need to help
where we can, setting examples and providing encouragement and correction
where appropriate because all future members will not be so mature and
established.

So let's join in together, as FRIENDS, and stay that way, and make this
board a success. Remember, more message boards fail than succeed, so we
need to work as one to make sure we fall into the latter category.

I say this with love . . . seriously.

Larry

----- *joke* ... I say this with love... You suck... but we love you... :D */joke*

Great post Top!

Sure, there will be discusses (like anywhere else)... But well... it's part of life... It's up to us to make it a success and I'll be glad to help...

Hummm... couldn't send you a CP for that... sorry... :p

[Requiem / The Dagda]

BTW, Dream: Jerry had his first scrimmage last night. He's playing OG and DT and the season starts a week from Saturday. He told me he wants to switch to baseball next season and I assured him it's his call. He can play any sport... or no sport. I just want him to have fun and learn sportsmanship and the importance of teamwork. He's a winner regardless of the score.

That's awesome, congratulations to you and Jerry. I always had that predicament with sports too. I quit both at pretty much the same time, (I played baseball the summer after I quit football) but I've kept playing pick-up baseball here at college and as you know have been in Men's League playing softball for the past two years.

Whenever I can, I try to play football and we have two annual games against our rival Hall and that's usually when I let the football blood in me run through and through. A lot of people discount me for my size when I line up at all different positions, but it's nice knowing I can still go out there and play, even though it's not the most organized.

I don't recall how old Jerry is, but it's extremely difficult to juggle multiple sports. I'd encourage him to do what he does best, because in time for me I just found it all too difficult to do. I think both sports got in the way of each other, but a lot of my struggles were with personal battles in my life I'm glad are finally over.

Baseball will always be my first love, my football to me is religion really.

Let us know how Jerry does throughout the year. I remember my first real game in sixth grade. I was playing cornerback and a friend of mine was talking trash at wide receiver, so on the first play I took him by the facemask and threw him to the ground. LOL. Wasn't very mature, but looking back I cannot help but laugh.

Here's to Jerry being a better sport than I was. I was taught since my first little league year that winning was all that mattered, and if we lost we'd be losers, and nobody wants to know or be a loser. So I've still taken losing very personally up until this day. Kind of odd how I'm mentioning this now, because we were talking about Paiget's scheme behavior in my Educational Psychology class the other day and we had to share examples and this was it.

It's too bad I've never tried accommodating to try and fix my views on losing.

Anyways, I have to get ready for class!

Take care!

[Watchthemiddle]

We're having a good time right now, with Tned having created a board that
promises much more than any other we've seen . . . we hope. It is a fan-based,
fan-run board that will depend on the desires and happiness of its members.

We must understand that the honeymoon will soon be over, and the real world
will set in. We will see disagreements and even quarrels, and other sources of
dissatisfaction here. It may be a cliché that you can't please everyone, but
that saying has stuck around for the centuries because it is true. You won't
like some things, and I won't, either. But we will have to live with a few
inconveniences and dislikes because . . . well, others to like them.

What I see coming into the board at this moment are mature, well established
board members. We are the core, the charter members. We need to help
where we can, setting examples and providing encouragement and correction
where appropriate because all future members will not be so mature and
established.

So let's join in together, as FRIENDS, and stay that way, and make this
board a success. Remember, more message boards fail than succeed, so we
need to work as one to make sure we fall into the latter category.

I say this with love . . . seriously.

Larry

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Your full of %$$#@# Larry.

This honeymoon was over the minute I got wind of this place!! :o

J/k

No seriously, I was just thinking about a thread like this. We all have orange colored glasses over this site right now, but the real test will be down the road in like 8 years when the Broncos have an 8-8 season and haven't won back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back Super Bowls. :cool:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

We're having a good time right now, with Tned having created a board that
promises much more than any other we've seen . . . we hope. It is a fan-based,
fan-run board that will depend on the desires and happiness of its members.

We must understand that the honeymoon will soon be over, and the real world
will set in. We will see disagreements and even quarrels, and other sources of
dissatisfaction here. It may be a cliché that you can't please everyone, but
that saying has stuck around for the centuries because it is true. You won't
like some things, and I won't, either. But we will have to live with a few
inconveniences and dislikes because . . . well, others to like them.

What I see coming into the board at this moment are mature, well established
board members. We are the core, the charter members. We need to help
where we can, setting examples and providing encouragement and correction
where appropriate because all future members will not be so mature and
established.

So let's join in together, as FRIENDS, and stay that way, and make this
board a success. Remember, more message boards fail than succeed, so we
need to work as one to make sure we fall into the latter category.

I say this with love . . . seriously.

Larry

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I was looking thru old threads and found this one topscribe started not long after Broncos Forums started. I think Broncos Forums has come a long ways in a short amount of time, and we ALL should be proud of it - I know I am :salute:

[Uncle Buck]

I was looking thru old threads and found this one topscribe started not long after Broncos Forums started. I think Broncos Forums has come a long ways in a short amount of time, and we ALL should be proud of it - I know I am :salute:

I'm glad you found it, Carol. [And thanks to you for initiating it, Tops. :salute: ]

And how timely. Another beloved member and I were discussing this very issue today. Although our membership is relatively few in numbers, I'm happy to observe that we have *quality*!

And (how many times can he type "and" in the same post--this is a literary no-no!), at the same time we have diversity. All in all, I'm pretty dang proud of this core group, thus far, and all we have to do to make this site achieve the success it deserves is to maintain!

"If you build it, they will come."

Well (notice I led off with "well" instead of "and?"), this village is done built, baby!

Oh, and speaking of "build it," I have to get back to the Rockies game, where the score is now 4-1...

And (oh there it is again), to borrow a line from Whoopie Goldberg in "Ghost..."
"You (the Diamondbacks) are in DANGER, honey!" :defense:

[MOtorboat]

I don't know how you can say that Lynch isn't a great safety. He's a great guy and a great safety. Did you watch any of Lynch before he came to Denver? Or even any of Lynch in his first 3 years in Denver? The guy was an amazing player and leader. He deserves to be in the hall. He doesn't deserve to be in before Atwater, but he does deserve to be in.

How in the hell did this post make it into a thread that hasn't been posted in, in over a year? I made it in the thread about Atwater and its posted here. That's the second time that has happened to me in the last two weeks. That's f'd up.

[ApaOps5]

How in the hell did this post make it into a thread that hasn't been posted in, in over a year? I made it in the thread about Atwater and its posted here. That's the second time that has happened to me in the last two weeks. That's f'd up.

Its probably a glitch in the Matrix. VBulletin upgrading and it just randomly posted here.

[LordTrychon]

How in the hell did this post make it into a thread that hasn't been posted in, in over a year? I made it in the thread about Atwater and its posted here. That's the second time that has happened to me in the last two weeks. That's f'd up.


Its probably a glitch in the Matrix. VBulletin upgrading and it just randomly posted here.

Here I went reading through this ancient thread thinking it was bumped for some altruistic reason.

Turns out MB is just screwing with the system. :tsk:

[ApaOps5]

Here I went reading through this ancient thread thinking it was bumped for some altruistic reason.

Turns out MB is just screwing with the system. :tsk:

You aren't the only one disappointed. I clicked thinking oooh this could be something good. Only to find MB having a football discussion with himself! :mad::coffee:

[LordTrychon]

You aren't the only one disappointed. I clicked thinking oooh this could be something good. Only to find MB having a football discussion with himself! :mad::coffee:

Is that what they call it now? :confused:

[Tned]

How in the hell did this post make it into a thread that hasn't been posted in, in over a year? I made it in the thread about Atwater and its posted here. That's the second time that has happened to me in the last two weeks. That's f'd up.

Good question. I'll check to see if this is a known vB bug. This is the first time I have seen this type of complaint.

[dogfish]

Good question. I'll check to see if this is a known vB bug. This is the first time I have seen this type of complaint.

you need to see if they have a midget-proof upgrade. . . . :laugh: