WOW! Ryan Harris gets props in Peter King's All-Pro list!!

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9039566/Peter-King#39;s:-2008-All-Pro-Team-?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162ATT=5

(Sorry. I don't know how to table this here.)


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[frauschieze]

WR Andre Johnson, Texans Physically imposing, and not a diva
WR Wes Welker, Patriots 112 catches last year, 111 this year
LT Michael Roos, Titans Kept immobile QB's blindside clear
LG Steve Hutchinson, Vikings Seattle still aches from his defection
C Shaun O'Hara, Giants NFL champs' best investment in '08
RG Harvey Dahl, Falcons From NFL Europe to a team leader
RT Ryan Harris, Broncos 2.5 sacks allowed in 684 dropbacks
TE Dallas Clark, Colts Manning's security blanket
QB Drew Brees, Saints 5,069 passing yards kept Saints alive
RB Adrian Peterson, Vikings Best speed-power back since Payton
FB Madison Hedgecock, Giants Seems to carry an anvil in his pads
DEFENSE
DE John Abraham, Falcons Most feared speed-rusher in NFL
DT Albert Haynesworth, Titans Destined to be first $10 mil-a-year DT
DT Fred Robbins, Giants Run-stuffer with great quickness
DE/LB Terrell Suggs, Ravens Premier cover man and pass rusher
OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys His 20 sacks in '08 were no fluke
MLB Stewart Bradley, Eagles Brain center of NFL's No. 3 defense
ILB Ray Lewis, Ravens And we thought he was in decline
OLB James Harrison, Steelers Most disruptive front-seven player
CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders Became league's best CB this year
CB Cortland Finnegan, Titans A chippy player, like Hines Ward
FS Ed Reed, Ravens Eight picks in season's last six weeks
SS Troy Polamalu, Steelers Defensive QB attacks like a missile
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Stephen Gostkowski, Pats League-best 36 FGs (out of 40)
P Shane Lechler, Raiders Two punts per game inside the 20
KR Josh Cribbs, Browns More dangerous than Devin Hester
PR Johnnie Lee Higgins, Raiders TD returns of 93, 89 and 80 yards
PL Montell Owens, Jaguars Explosive hitter, shifty runner
AWARDS
MVP Peyton Manning, Colts Heroic after two knee surgeries
Off. Player Adrian Peterson, Vikings Toughest to tackle
Def. Player DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys Dominated games
Off. Rookie Matt Ryan, Falcons Adapted quickly to pro game
Def. Rookie Jerod Mayo, Patriots Team's leading tackler by far
Comeback Joey Porter, Dolphins 17.5 sacks (after 5.5 in '07)
Coach Mike Smith, Falcons Revived a downtrodden team
Coordinator Dick LeBeau, Steelers At 71, had his finest year
G.M. Thomas Dimitroff, Falcons Built a playoff team in no time

[G_Money]

Fascinating. Harris was very good for being the 2nd best tackle on the team. Feels a little like a make-up selection for picking the Titans OT over Clady, but at least it's interesting. Harris is gonna get lost in the wash a lot playing across from Clady for the next several years, since LT gets more glory, so it's nice for him to show up here.

~G

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WR Andre Johnson, Texans Physically imposing, and not a diva
WR Wes Welker, Patriots 112 catches last year, 111 this year
LT Michael Roos, Titans Kept immobile QB's blindside clear
LG Steve Hutchinson, Vikings Seattle still aches from his defection
C Shaun O'Hara, Giants NFL champs' best investment in '08
RG Harvey Dahl, Falcons From NFL Europe to a team leader
RT Ryan Harris, Broncos 2.5 sacks allowed in 684 dropbacks
TE Dallas Clark, Colts Manning's security blanket
QB Drew Brees, Saints 5,069 passing yards kept Saints alive
RB Adrian Peterson, Vikings Best speed-power back since Payton
FB Madison Hedgecock, Giants Seems to carry an anvil in his pads
DEFENSE
DE John Abraham, Falcons Most feared speed-rusher in NFL
DT Albert Haynesworth, Titans Destined to be first $10 mil-a-year DT
DT Fred Robbins, Giants Run-stuffer with great quickness
DE/LB Terrell Suggs, Ravens Premier cover man and pass rusher
OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys His 20 sacks in '08 were no fluke
MLB Stewart Bradley, Eagles Brain center of NFL's No. 3 defense
ILB Ray Lewis, Ravens And we thought he was in decline
OLB James Harrison, Steelers Most disruptive front-seven player
CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders Became league's best CB this year
CB Cortland Finnegan, Titans A chippy player, like Hines Ward
FS Ed Reed, Ravens Eight picks in season's last six weeks
SS Troy Polamalu, Steelers Defensive QB attacks like a missile
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Stephen Gostkowski, Pats League-best 36 FGs (out of 40)
P Shane Lechler, Raiders Two punts per game inside the 20
KR Josh Cribbs, Browns More dangerous than Devin Hester
PR Johnnie Lee Higgins, Raiders TD returns of 93, 89 and 80 yards
PL Montell Owens, Jaguars Explosive hitter, shifty runner
AWARDS
MVP Peyton Manning, Colts Heroic after two knee surgeries
Off. Player Adrian Peterson, Vikings Toughest to tackle
Def. Player DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys Dominated games
Off. Rookie Matt Ryan, Falcons Adapted quickly to pro game
Def. Rookie Jerod Mayo, Patriots Team's leading tackler by far
Comeback Joey Porter, Dolphins 17.5 sacks (after 5.5 in '07)
Coach Mike Smith, Falcons Revived a downtrodden team
Coordinator Dick LeBeau, Steelers At 71, had his finest year
G.M. Thomas Dimitroff, Falcons Built a playoff team in no time

Smart alec! :eviltongue:



Thanks! :beer:



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[G_Money]

And frau busts her technological prowess all over your ass, top. :beer:

~G

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Good for him...definitely one player who I was completely wrong about. But I'm glad we have him.

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And frau busts her technological prowess all over your ass, top. :beer:

~G

*Owned* . . . :frown:

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[frauschieze]

Oh hush. I figured others would like that. Just trying to be helpful.

[G_Money]

Good for him...definitely one player who I was completely wrong about. But I'm glad we have him.

Me too. Not that I didn't think he was a good player, but serious back surgeries in back-to-back (ha) seasons? Looked like a bust waiting to happen.

Hope that back holds up the right half of our line for a decade now.

~G

[PatricktheDookie]

Peter King's on drugs.

Harris is decent at best.

[BroncoBJ]

:lol: .. I'm not 1 to pick fights or anything but wow.. what Frau did was very Rude IMO.
Showing Top up like that. :fight:

But Thanks for sharing. I love our Oline. Its funny how what a difference a year makes.
I hated them last year. :lol:

At least 1 player from our 2007 draft class won't be a complete bust. :elefant:

[Tebow4Ever]

Im glad to see Ryan Harris getting some positive mention, as some have said, along with Clady, and Weigman. I think Harris did a GREAT job protecting Cutlers Right side. Not bad for a 2nd year player who really didn't see much action at all his 1st year. I think the Offensive line was one of the FEW productive areas of the Broncos this season.

[frauschieze]

Bring it. :boxing:

[Italianmobstr7]

Peter King's on drugs.

Harris is decent at best.

I really hope that you're kidding. Did you watch the Broncos play football at all this year? Did you not read the stat line? 2.5 sacks given up in almost 650 drop backs.... Yeahh.. real mediocre.

[PatricktheDookie]

I really hope that you're kidding. Did you watch the Broncos play football at all this year? Did you not read the stat line? 2.5 sacks given up in almost 650 drop backs.... Yeahh.. real mediocre.

I attribute that more to playing next to Graham and Cutler's quick release, awareness, and mobility.

We didn't run for squat this year to the right side, and Harris got away with some questionable non-calls on holding throughout the season.

[chanesaw]

He had Manning as his MVP, but not on the roster. Something seems wrong about that.

[TXBRONC]

I'm happy for Harris, it's just bad that Clady didn't make the list.

[MOtorboat]

I attribute that more to playing next to Graham and Cutler's quick release, awareness, and mobility.

We didn't run for squat this year to the right side, and Harris got away with some questionable non-calls on holding throughout the season.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Actually, we were second in the league off right end. 10th on inside runs to the right.

I wouldn't say we "didn't run for squat" to the right side.

[Ziggy]

I attribute that more to playing next to Graham and Cutler's quick release, awareness, and mobility.

We didn't run for squat this year to the right side, and Harris got away with some questionable non-calls on holding throughout the season.

Did you watch any Bronco games? Graham didn't babysit Clady OR Harris much this season. Cutler's quick release helps, but there were times when he was sitting back in the pocket having a cup of coffee and reading the morning news while he was waiting for a receiver to come open. Give some credit where it's due Dook.

[broncofaninfla]

Harris had a great year. Im surprsied yet glad he was recognized.

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I'm happy for Harris, it's just bad Clady didn't make the list.

True, but one can't argue against Roos. He's the only one, IMO, who should
be listed at LT if Clady isn't.

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[Requiem / The Dagda]

Told you he was the truth.

[PatricktheDookie]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Actually, we were second in the league off right end. 10th on inside runs to the right.

I wouldn't say we "didn't run for squat" to the right side.

Those same numbers state that the Broncos are the best rushing team in all of football, and we all know that's not true at all. They show that we had the 30th most rushing attempts in the league, meaning we were passing A LOT and teams were probably defending against the pass. In other words, our yards-per-rush were inflated due to our offensive gameplan and lack of a running game.

But look at the numbers in relation to themselves.

Left end: 1
Left tackle: 5
Inside: 4
Right tackle: 10
Right end: 2

Out of all our runs, our weakest area was right at Ryan Harris.

Because of that, take note of where we ran the ball:

Left end: 14%
Left tackle: 14%
Middle: 51%
Right tackle: 12%
Right end: 9%

In other words, we ran the ball to the right less than any other direction. If Ryan Harris was our best lineman, wouldn't we be running at him more?

I'm not saying he didn't have a good year. He was a first year starter and did better than I expected. But you would have to be wearing some seriously-thick orange tinted glasses to think that Ryan Harris is THE premier right tackle in the NFL.

Those rankings by Peter King were hardly explained and looked like he just threw up some non-comparative statistics to back his lazy picks. Cutler got sacked the fewest times in the league, so Harris giving up only 2.5 sacks is not necessarily an AMAZING accomplishment. Now, if Cutler had been sacked 40 times and he had given up only 2.5, then it would mean Harris was pretty impressive. But that's not the case here. He clearly benefited from Cutler's ability to recognize and avoid pressure. From how I see it, Harris isn't even the best tackle on the team, and definitely not the best in the league.

If Harris was in a contract year and demanded 10 mil per year since he was the best right tackle in football, GM-me would kick his ass out the door. Harris is a system player who looked good in this Broncos offense, but an all-pro player he is not.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

It is an amazing accomplishment. Any time your quarterback drops back 600+ times and you only allow him to get touched 2.5 times is an amazing feat. Ryan Harris is not a strong run blocker, but he is superb in pass protection. With another year of experience and guidance, he will continue to get better. He is not an All-Pro player, but he is a very good player. He fits into our system well and his strengths are accentuated by the way we play ball on the offensive line. That's not a bad thing. That is why a lot of people are put in good scenarios in succeed in the NFL. They get placed in the right situation.

Holding that against him is retarded.

[bcbronc]

From how I see it, Harris isn't even the best tackle on the team, and definitely not the best in the league.

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no one would disagree with you on that. everyone knows Clady is better. but he's a LT and Harris was picked as having the best season at RT. could be a stretch but it still shows he had a good season.