Am I a musical snob?

[chazoe60]

I hate the Beatles. U2 makes me gag. New country is pathetic but Johnny Cash is one of my musical heroes.

I love old country, Punk rock, Irish music of all kinds from the Dubliners to the Pogues to Flogging Molly, I love eclectic country (I will say that the Zac Brown band is awesome, thanks for not being watered down pop shit Zack) and blues music like John Prine and the Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band, and I love weird off the wall shit like Tom Waits.

Probably 90% of the stuff I love is shit that a very few people have even heard of when compared to the majority of the country. And the stuff I absolutely loathe seems to be the stuff that is the most popular (rap and pop bullshit).

A list of my favorite bands/artists would go like this:
Flogging Molly (best live band in history and Dave King is one of the greatest song writers ever. Some of the band members live in Colorado BTW)
The Pogues (Shane MacGowan is as good a song writer as he is ugly) I saw them live in Denver and it is honestly one of my favorite memories of this life.
Social Distortion Seen them live a ton, the kick so much ass
Warren Zevon Maybe the coolest dude who ever lived.
Tom Waits Poet laureate of street performers. His music is poetry and I consider him a national treasure.
Johnny Cash He's the fuking man in black, what else can be said?
Bob Dylan Never has a better songwriter put pen to paper. If you can listen to Shelter from the Storm and not be in love then you are not human.
The misfits They helped me get through my teens. Brutal and beautiful at the sam time. Bullet makes me want to fuk shit up.
Jimmy Buffet I am just jealous of his life, who wouldn't be?
Murder by Death Macho fuming badassery put to song. I hung out with their bassist for like two hours and he described their music to me perfectly. He said "we write badass songs about badass shit" Fuk an A.

I like all these weird, eclectic bands because I like them, not because I'm trying to be weird or ironic. So, you tell me, am I a snob or a weirdo when it comes to music?

[BeefStew25]

What about Sly and the Family Stone?

[chazoe60]

What about Sly and the Family Stone?

Sorry, I don't listen to that shit.

[broncobryce]

I hate the Beatles. U2 makes me gag. New country is pathetic but Johnny Cash is one of my musical heroes.

I love old country, Punk rock, Irish music of all kinds from the Dubliners to the Pogues to Flogging Molly, I love eclectic country (I will say that the Zac Brown band is awesome, thanks for not being watered down pop shit Zack) and blues music like John Prine and the Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band, and I love weird off the wall shit like Tom Waits.

Probably 90% of the stuff I love is shit that a very few people have even heard of when compared to the majority of the country. And the stuff I absolutely loathe seems to be the stuff that is the most popular (rap and pop bullshit).

A list of my favorite bands/artists would go like this:
Flogging Molly (best live band in history and Dave King is one of the greatest song writers ever. Some of the band members live in Colorado BTW)
The Pogues (Shane MacGowan is as good a song writer as he is ugly) I saw them live in Denver and it is honestly one of my favorite memories of this life.
Social Distortion Seen them live a ton, the kick so much ass
Warren Zevon Maybe the coolest dude who ever lived.
Tom Waits Poet laureate of street performers. His music is poetry and I consider him a national treasure.
Johnny Cash He's the fuking man in black, what else can be said?
Bob Dylan Never has a better songwriter put pen to paper. If you can listen to Shelter from the Storm and not be in love then you are not human.
The misfits They helped me get through my teens. Brutal and beautiful at the sam time. Bullet makes me want to fuk shit up.
Jimmy Buffet I am just jealous of his life, who wouldn't be?
Murder by Death Macho fuming badassery put to song. I hung out with their bassist for like two hours and he described their music to me perfectly. He said "we write badass songs about badass shit" Fuk an A.

I like all these weird, eclectic bands because I like them, not because I'm trying to be weird or ironic. So, you tell me, am I a snob or a weirdo when it comes to music?

No you're not a musical snob. You just don't eat all the shit the radio stations/Big record labels spoon feed you.
Sadly so many people do.

[Kapaibro]

I hate the Beatles. U2 makes me gag. New country is pathetic but Johnny Cash is one of my musical heroes.

I love old country, Punk rock, Irish music of all kinds from the Dubliners to the Pogues to Flogging Molly, I love eclectic country (I will say that the Zac Brown band is awesome, thanks for not being watered down pop shit Zack) and blues music like John Prine and the Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band, and I love weird off the wall shit like Tom Waits.

Probably 90% of the stuff I love is shit that a very few people have even heard of when compared to the majority of the country. And the stuff I absolutely loathe seems to be the stuff that is the most popular (rap and pop bullshit).

A list of my favorite bands/artists would go like this:
Flogging Molly (best live band in history and Dave King is one of the greatest song writers ever. Some of the band members live in Colorado BTW)
The Pogues (Shane MacGowan is as good a song writer as he is ugly) I saw them live in Denver and it is honestly one of my favorite memories of this life.
Social Distortion Seen them live a ton, the kick so much ass
Warren Zevon Maybe the coolest dude who ever lived.
Tom Waits Poet laureate of street performers. His music is poetry and I consider him a national treasure.
Johnny Cash He's the fuking man in black, what else can be said?
Bob Dylan Never has a better songwriter put pen to paper. If you can listen to Shelter from the Storm and not be in love then you are not human.
The misfits They helped me get through my teens. Brutal and beautiful at the sam time. Bullet makes me want to fuk shit up.
Jimmy Buffet I am just jealous of his life, who wouldn't be?
Murder by Death Macho fuming badassery put to song. I hung out with their bassist for like two hours and he described their music to me perfectly. He said "we write badass songs about badass shit" Fuk an A.

I like all these weird, eclectic bands because I like them, not because I'm trying to be weird or ironic. So, you tell me, am I a snob or a weirdo when it comes to music?

You're not a snob.

You have good taste. I wish I'd had a chance to see the Pogues live! I have to live with my memories of singing Fairytale of New York in Galway on Christmas Eve!

[shank]

yes

[MOtorboat]

No, you're definitely not a music snob.

Music snobs won't listen to the radio music because its on the radio, and actively seek out other music. It sounds to me like you have listened to a lot of stuff and found the music you like. Nothing wrong with that.

I love Dylan, Cash and Waits. Social Distortion has some good stuff, but I haven't heard any of their stuff for a while.

I differ on the Beatles, especially the late Beatles stuff (post Rubber Soul).

I'm baffled at what tops the charts these days. Just some pure shit for music, imo.

[Northman]

I think everything you listen too is garbage. However as previously mentioned you found music that is endearing to you and thats all that matters. Frankly, i dont care if people like what i like.

[Dreadnought]

No, you're definitely not a music snob.

Music snobs won't listen to the radio music because its on the radio, and actively seek out other music. It sounds to me like you have listened to a lot of stuff and found the music you like. Nothing wrong with that.

I love Dylan, Cash and Waits. Social Distortion has some good stuff, but I haven't heard any of their stuff for a while.

I differ on the Beatles, especially the late Beatles stuff (post Rubber Soul).

I'm baffled at what tops the charts these days. Just some pure shit for music, imo.

There is good music being made all over the place, but you have to look for it. Some is on the radio, some not. Guys my age too often let their taste in music fossilize and won't give a listen to anything made past the time they were 25, whenever that was.

Now Ke$ha, on the other hand...seriously? Who decided to make a star out of that talentless skank? Proof that the music Industry often sucks, but great music is still made every year.

[Northman]

Guys my age too often let their taste in music fossilize and won't give a listen to anything made past the time they were 25, whenever that was.



Indeed.

Probably why my taste is so varied. lol

[atwater27]

The only folks I would qualify as music snobs are a decent percentage of classical music buffs. I have had conversations with some that made me want to vomit. To them, if it wasn't written in the 1700's, it is void of any talent and quality. And I love classical music.

I would be MOTORBOAT's version of a music snob. Simply because I truly despise the radio industry and the music industry in general because I have found sooooo much amazing music that could never see the light of day, while tripe like corporate frat boy rock and insert skanky dancer lip syncing and auto tuning to preprogrammed techno gets maddeningy repetitive radio time.
I don't think all radio music sucks, because good talent does rise to the top at times, but there are way too many roadblocks that stop many, many acts from getting past the Nickelback clones and Britney Spears whores. That's why I like Pandora radio so much. and Amazon.com, because you can discover tons of music just surfing around their site.

If you've never heard of Balligomingo, Ray Lynch, the Amazing Royal Crowns, Mind.In.A.Box., Delerium, Shpongle, Frontline Assembly, Massive Attack, Covenant, or Zero 7, thank a radio exec and MTV. Because they would rather shove Justin Beiber and that window shattering blood curdling Nicki Minaj down your throat than promote and release tunes from artists that actually have musical talent.

[MOtorboat]

Atwater, I don't think you fit my definition at all.

I'm thinking more along the lines of Dreadnought's definition of hipsters the other day...I can't paraphrase and do it justice...

[MOtorboat]

...

Think urban, self-consciously cooler than you, skinny jeans, drinking PBR. Their IPOD is full of indy bands too cool and obscure for you to have ever heard of them. Anything you have heard of is by definition not cool. If you like a band it is not cool. If you don't live on the West coast or the right nabes in Brooklyn you aren't cool. They wear wayfarers. They are ironic. They wait tables at vegan restaurants - that kind of thing.

[chazoe60]

Thanks everybody for the awesome responses.

I fear what crap will be shoved down my kids' throats when it comes to music. My wife and I really try to have music we like playing a lot and expose them to it. I guess I survived the 80's and 90's so I suppose my kids will survive whatever audible horror awaits them.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

You're not a snob.


You're a fruitcake.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Who loves ya buddy!?

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[chazoe60]

BTW, a band I didn't mention but will definitely make my list of favorite bands of all time if they keep it up is Mumford and Sons. They have a new album that is almost done, I guess anyway. Their first album is one of my favorite albums of all time, if they can even come close with their second one I will declare them geniuses.

From some of the stuff I've seen on youtube off their new album I don't think they will disappoint.

Here's a taste

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Hey chaz, have you listened to Steve Martin's bluegrass band? Seriously, he really has a blue grass band, and they're really good. I think they won an emmy this year.

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[chazoe60]

Hey chaz, have you listened to Steve Martin's bluegrass band? Seriously, he really has a blue grass band, and they're really good. I think they won an emmy this year.

My father in law is a huge bluegrass fan, and a damn fine Mandolin player, and he says it is brilliant. I will definitely listen.


What kind of music do you like bud?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

My father in law is a huge bluegrass fan, and a damn fine Mandolin player, and he says it is brilliant. I will definitely listen.


What kind of music do you like bud?

I like a lot of different kinds of music. I love classical piano. I like SOME bluegrass.

I also really enjoy black gospel music.

I use to like dark metal, like Soundgarden, but as you can tell, that doesn't really fit who I am anymore. :laugh:

I also use to love Bob Marley, but don't really listen to him too much anymore.

Additionally, I think I spend too much time listening to sports talk radio. I think it's time to bust out some of my old black gospel music.

This is one of my favorites, so no laughin'. I know it's not what you are probably accustomed to, but give it a chance. It's essentially about the treasures that are found in the dark times of life.

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

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This is one of my favorite all time pieces. I also really enjoy Bach. There was a time when I was a young adult and the only thing I listened to during the day was classical music, because it was so calming to me.

[chazoe60]

I like a lot of different kinds of music. I love classical piano. I like SOME bluegrass.

I also really enjoy black gospel music.

I use to like dark metal, like Soundgarden, but as you can tell, that doesn't really fit who I am anymore. :laugh:

I also use to love Bob Marley, but don't really listen to him too much anymore.

Additionally, I think I spend too much time listening to sports talk radio. I think it's time to bust out some of my old black gospel music.

This is one of my favorites, so no laughin'. I know it's not what you are probably accustomed to, but give it a chance. It's essentially about the treasures that are found in the dark times of life.

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That's cool. I liked that tune. Probably not something I would listen to on a daily basis but it's cool. Black people can belt out a Gospel tune that's for sure.

As far as classical music goes I could never get into it. I don't really even like long rock instrumentals. I need vocals I guess.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

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I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag. I really like some of the older ballads from the 70's and 80's.

This is one of my all time favorites. :laugh:

seriously though....

it is....

:shocked:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I also like the sound of Los Lobos, Cat Stevens, Santana ( a little)

I use to listen to Hendrix religiously.

This is one of 6 or 7 Hendrix songs that I use to absolutely love.

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Sorry for consuming your thread dude....

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

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I also love some of Marley's stuff because of the social power behind some of his lyrics. He was a powerful activist in Jamaica.

The lyrics of the above song have great significance. Have you ever closely listened to the lyrics of "crazy baldheads"? He's lamenting the oppression of white landowners in Jamaica.

The lyrics in this one are pretty cool too.


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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

BTW, a band I didn't mention but will definitely make my list of favorite bands of all time if they keep it up is Mumford and Sons. They have a new album that is almost done, I guess anyway. Their first album is one of my favorite albums of all time, if they can even come close with their second one I will declare them geniuses.

From some of the stuff I've seen on youtube off their new album I don't think they will disappoint.

Here's a taste

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They're pretty good. It kind of reminds a little of...oh man, I can't remember his name. I haven't thought of him in a while, but he was pretty good. I'll remember later when I'm in bed probably. :lol:

[Thnikkaman]

No, you're definitely not a music snob.

Music snobs won't listen to the radio music because its on the radio, and actively seek out other music. It sounds to me like you have listened to a lot of stuff and found the music you like. Nothing wrong with that.

I love Dylan, Cash and Waits. Social Distortion has some good stuff, but I haven't heard any of their stuff for a while.

I differ on the Beatles, especially the late Beatles stuff (post Rubber Soul).

I'm baffled at what tops the charts these days. Just some pure shit for music, imo.


I don't think we can be friends anymore MO.

[gnomeflinger]

You're only a snob if you think that no one else but you has any musical taste.

[bronconut]

I hate the Beatles. U2 makes me gag. New country is pathetic but Johnny Cash is one of my musical heroes.

I love old country, Punk rock, Irish music of all kinds from the Dubliners to the Pogues to Flogging Molly, I love eclectic country (I will say that the Zac Brown band is awesome, thanks for not being watered down pop shit Zack) and blues music like John Prine and the Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band, and I love weird off the wall shit like Tom Waits.

Probably 90% of the stuff I love is shit that a very few people have even heard of when compared to the majority of the country. And the stuff I absolutely loathe seems to be the stuff that is the most popular (rap and pop bullshit).

A list of my favorite bands/artists would go like this:
Flogging Molly (best live band in history and Dave King is one of the greatest song writers ever. Some of the band members live in Colorado BTW)
The Pogues (Shane MacGowan is as good a song writer as he is ugly) I saw them live in Denver and it is honestly one of my favorite memories of this life.
Social Distortion Seen them live a ton, the kick so much ass
Warren Zevon Maybe the coolest dude who ever lived.
Tom Waits Poet laureate of street performers. His music is poetry and I consider him a national treasure.
Johnny Cash He's the fuking man in black, what else can be said?
Bob Dylan Never has a better songwriter put pen to paper. If you can listen to Shelter from the Storm and not be in love then you are not human.
The misfits They helped me get through my teens. Brutal and beautiful at the sam time. Bullet makes me want to fuk shit up.
Jimmy Buffet I am just jealous of his life, who wouldn't be?
Murder by Death Macho fuming badassery put to song. I hung out with their bassist for like two hours and he described their music to me perfectly. He said "we write badass songs about badass shit" Fuk an A.

I like all these weird, eclectic bands because I like them, not because I'm trying to be weird or ironic. So, you tell me, am I a snob or a weirdo when it comes to music?

i like the Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash takes. bobby D. is a good musician and imo quite the writer. Tangled up in Blues is one of my favorite Songs by him I consider myself somewhat of a troubadore and have tended to gravitate towards folk music.

I have always kinda dreamed of living the gypsy/hobo life, traveling the rails from town to town with my dog and entertaining the commmon folk with softshoe dancing, much like a Mr. BoJangles in the song of the same name by the nitty Gritty dirt band I'd have to travel back in time to do that though

[MOtorboat]

I don't think we can be friends anymore MO.

Why, Tinker?

Are you a big Nicky Manaj (sp?) fan.

[Thnikkaman]

Why, Tinker?

Are you a big Nicky Manaj (sp?) fan.

Nicky Manaj can go eat a bowl of dicks (and she probably does on a daily basis).

No, I was giving you shit since I believe that this applies to me:



Music snobs won't listen to the radio music because its on the radio, and actively seek out other music

However, I think you are more going after this:

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[chazoe60]

Who is Nicky Manaj

Does she like 3-ways?

[Thnikkaman]

Who is Nicky Manaj

Does she like 3-ways?

She is the current destroyer of rap music.

[Northman]

It doesnt take much to destroy rap.

[bronconut]

It doesnt take much to destroy rap.

is that Missy in your Avy?

[Northman]

is that Missy in your Avy?

No.

You've seen Missy before.

[Thnikkaman]

It doesnt take much to destroy rap.

North, don't speak on subjects you don't know shit about.

[bronconut]

No.

You've seen Missy before.

who is this woman?

[Northman]

North, don't speak on subjects you don't know shit about.

Just a perception man, just a perception.

[chazoe60]

She is the current destroyer of rap music.

How can someone destroy that which is shit to begin with?


J/K Different strokes I guess.


I do really like that JayZ song 99 problems. Especially the version with Linkin Park. Cool song. I also dig old Beastie Boys and when I was in HS I liked Cypress Hill a little. Other than that I never got into rap too much. It just never hit me right.

Maybe growing up on Rock and especially Punk Rock (Social D, the Misfits, and the Dead Kennedy's) at an early age (10 or so) I just don't have the ability to really grasp what Rap is all about.

[Northman]

How can someone destroy that which is shit to begin with?


J/K Different strokes I guess.


I do really like that JayZ song 99 problems. Especially the version with Linkin Park. Cool song. I also dig old Beastie Boys and when I was in HS I liked Cypress Hill a little. Other than that I never got into rap too much. It just never hit me right.

Maybe growing up on Rock and especially Punk Rock (Social D, the Misfits, and the Dead Kennedy's) at an early age (10 or so) I just don't have the ability to really grasp what Rap is all about.

Dont you know?

Taking samples of someone else's work constitutes as genius. :lol:

[Northman]

who is this woman?

No idea mate. Just some random woman.

[Thnikkaman]

Dont you know?

Taking samples of someone else's work constitutes as genius. :lol:

Same could be said for barking and growling over a mic while someone in the background takes chainsaws to guitars. :coffee:

[bronconut]

well, I dont' really like rap. I don't get it. I kinda like the dueling rap thing that i saw with m and m on some movie about him. but that is about it. it seems to be associated with alot of violence and hate, so I stay away from it.

[Northman]

Same could be said for barking and growling over a mic while someone in the background takes chainsaws to guitars. :coffee:


But, at least they are actually creating it. ;)

[Northman]

well, I dont' really like rap. I don't get it. I kinda like the dueling rap thing that i saw with m and m on some movie about him. but that is about it. it seems to be associated with alot of violence and hate, so I stay away from it.

Aside from a song here or there i dont care much for it either. I generally like the more humorous stuff from that genre. But i do find it sad that as time goes on the originality factor has really gone by the wayside when it comes to rap in general. I certainly have more respect for those who actually make up their own riffs and beats rather than sample someone else's work. Its cool to see it every once in a while but now it seems to be the norm in terms of creativeness.

[Thnikkaman]

How can someone destroy that which is shit to begin with?


J/K Different strokes I guess.


I do really like that JayZ song 99 problems. Especially the version with Linkin Park. Cool song. I also dig old Beastie Boys and when I was in HS I liked Cypress Hill a little. Other than that I never got into rap too much. It just never hit me right.

Maybe growing up on Rock and especially Punk Rock (Social D, the Misfits, and the Dead Kennedy's) at an early age (10 or so) I just don't have the ability to really grasp what Rap is all about.

Rap = Business Music. Its the crap that they play on MTV and BET.
Hip-Hop is the real shit.

I totally understand the different strokes by different folks comment. I often listen to groups like The Strokes, Dealership, Sublime, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, The Ramones, etc... but I'm more often going to be listening to Jazz and hip hop.

[Thnikkaman]

But, at least they are actually creating it. ;)

There is a creative process involved in finding the samples, editing them, and looping them to make something new. Furthermore I love finding the samples that the songs have been created from. If I didn't listen to Hip-Hop, I would never had given great old bands like 10cc or Steely Dan a chance.

[chazoe60]

In a way I think Rap is like a foreign language. If you don't learn it at a young age it is much harder to do the older you get.

Not slamming it, but it has never even really sounded like music to me. I guess that's what I mean. It's so different sounding than anything I ever listened to.

I hate disco music, but I can make the connection that this is a lyric and this is a beat and so on, whereas Rap just almost sounds alien to me. I guess I just can't form that connection in my brain.

[Thnikkaman]

In a way I think Rap is like a foreign language. If you don't learn it at a young age it is much harder to do the older you get.

Not slamming it, but it has never even really sounded like music to me. I guess that's what I mean. It's so different sounding than anything I ever listened to.

I hate disco music, but I can make the connection that this is a lyric and this is a beat and so on, whereas Rap just almost sounds alien to me. I guess I just can't form that connection in my brain.

You are more right than you think. It is more difficult to re-wire your brain into enjoying sounds that don't seem familiar to you. A lot of the rock that I can enjoy, I enjoy it because of things like Rock Band, or movies that I watch over and over again.

[MOtorboat]

Music snob fight!

:couch:

[dogfish]

chaze, i'd categorize you as more hipster than music snob-- i don't see anything in there worth gettin' snotty over. . .


:heh:

[dogfish]

You are more right than you think. It is more difficult to re-wire your brain into enjoying sounds that don't seem familiar to you. A lot of the rock that I can enjoy, I enjoy it because of things like Rock Band, or movies that I watch over and over again.

maybe his brain is just too pale. . .

[chazoe60]

chaze, i'd categorize you as more hipster than music snob-- i don't see anything in there worth gettin' snotty over. . .


:heh:

How dare you, you micro-brew guzzling turd.




BTW, check out Tom Russel the fuking dude cant write and sing a song with the best of em'

[Dreadnought]

How dare you, you micro-brew guzzling turd.




BTW, check out Tom Russel the fuking dude cant write and sing a song with the best of em'

Thems fightin' words Chazoe. Don't be calling out my man Dogtard like that because he has superior taste in beer. He has steered me right on a number of occasions. I am normally in the Chazoe fan club, but on this issue you are terribly, tragically wrong. Like Mike Martz pass blocking scheme wrong. Like trading for Laurence Maroney wrong.

[chazoe60]

Thems fightin' words Chazoe. Don't be calling out my man Dogtard like that because he has superior taste in beer. He has steered me right on a number of occasions. I am normally in the Chazoe fan club, but on this issue you are terribly, tragically wrong. Like Mike Martz pass blocking scheme wrong. Like trading for Laurence Maroney wrong.

He started it.

[dogfish]

He started it.

and dread finished it. . . BOOM!

[chazoe60]

I'll take on both of you, I ain't skeered.

[dogfish]

I'll take on both of you, I ain't skeered.

you find a little liquid confidence all of a sudden?


:D

[chazoe60]

you find a little liquid confidence all of a sudden?


:D

damn straight son. I have been on a Rum kick since I have given up carbs.



Hey Dogtard, are you going to be at the big bash on Dec 11th?

[dogfish]

damn straight son. I have been on a Rum kick since I have given up carbs.



Hey Dogtard, are you going to be at the big bash on Dec 11th?

probably. . .

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Variety is the spice of life. Only the people who are closed minded about music are "snobs", IMO.

I listen to just about everything... except country. I just can't listen to country music. Sure if I'm in a pool hall and a country song comes on, I'm fine with it, but it's never a genre that I actually would ever seek out. The closest thing I can come to country is the Eagles (love the Eagles).

[weazel]

you aren't a snob... just tone deaf













lol j/k