jeb

[shank]

just got a text saying we signed jeb putzier... injury? why another TE? who gets cut?

[broncofaninfla]

Just got it too and wondering the exact same things

[claymore]

Hes our new H back hybrid.

[Buff]

Maybe the mustard has fallen out of favor.

[Mike]

I liked Putz...boy could take a licken.

[claymore]

I liked Putz...boy could take a licken.

Um... In what way Birthday boy? Or does this belong in the E harmony thread?

[broncofaninfla]

Putzier Back in Denver (http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/2008/12/10/putzier-back-in-denver/)

It’s only Wednesday, but it’s already been a busy week for the Broncos, personnel-wise. After all the transactions Tuesday, more have taken place this morning. The Broncos have signed tight end Jeb Putzier, Head Coach Mike Shanahan has announced. To make room for him on the roster, the team waived safety Herana-Daze Jones.

Putzier began his NFL career in Denver in 2002 and stayed with the Broncos until 2005. He spent the following two season with the Texans before joining the Seahawks in 2008. He saw action in six games for Seattle before being waived.
In 67 career games, Putzier has totaled 96 receptions for 1,251 yards with three touchdowns. He also has appeared in three career postseason games, posting 10 receptions for 159 yards with one touchdown.
The tight end will wear No. 87 for the Broncos.
The team also signed running back Steve Baylark to the practice squad. A second-year player out of the University of Massachusetts, Baylark has yet to see action in any regular season games, though he has played against the Broncos twice in the preseason with the Arizona Cardinals.
At UMass, Baylark became just the third Division I-AA player to post four 1,000-yard rushing seasons. A second-team All-American as a senior, Baylark finished his collegiate career with 1,080 carries for 5,199 yards with 42 touchdowns.

[broncofaninfla]

The Broncos have made nearly 60 personnel moves to the active roster since the regular season began.

[shank]

i still don't get it, our TEs have been playing lights out the last few weeks.

[slim]

i still don't get it, our TEs have been playing lights out the last few weeks.

Probably just depth. You have to think Scheff will get hurt again soon enough.

[broncofaninfla]

i still don't get it, our TEs have been playing lights out the last few weeks.


I'm guessing we are planning on throwing the ball even more, gives us one more target at TE. Jeb and Shef on the feild at the same time could pose a problem for LB's and safeties

[Dreadnought]

i still don't get it, our TEs have been playing lights out the last few weeks.

Agreed, but we're paper thin. I see Putzier as a Bargain-basement Tony Scheffler. Good "hands" TE, and given Nate Jackson is on IR it makes some sense.

FTR, I think Putzier> Nate, so not a bad long term signing either. I liked the guy.

[G_Money]

Jeb for H-Back/FB so Larsen can play LB.

[broncofaninfla]

Steve Baylark to the practice squad. A second-year player out of the University of Massachusetts

Signed a free agent contract with the Arizona Cardinals on April 29, 2006
2006 Update:
• SPORTS NETWORK SECOND-TEAM ALL-AMERICAN.
• PLAYED IN 82ND EAST-WEST SHRINE ALL-STAR GAME.
• ATLANTIC 10 CO-OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF YEAR
• ATLANTIC 10 FIRST-TEAM TAILBACK, third year in row.
• NEW ENGLAND FOOTBALL WRITERS ALL-STAR TEAM
• COLLEGE SPORTING NEWS ALL-STAR TEAM.
• DON HANSEN SECOND-TEAM ALL-AMERICAN
• DON HANSEN ALL-NORTHEAST REGION FIRST TEAM
• ECAC I-AA ALL-STAR FIRST TEAM
• Finished 10th in nation in Walter Payton Award Voting.
• Senior Captain tailback became the third player in Division I-AA history to have four 1,000-yard seasons. He joined Jerry Azumah (New Hampshire, 1995-98) and Adrian Peterson (Georgia Southern 1996-99). Six players have done it in Division I-A. A total of five have now done it in I-AA. Baylark accomplished feat with 152 yards at Northeastern on Oct. 28.
• Added to Payton Award Watch List on Nov. 1 as top Offensive Player in Division I-AA Football.
• Named to 2006 Atlantic 10 Preseason First Team after being a member of the 2004 and 2005 Atlantic 10 First Team.
• Awarded Team's Marcel Shipp Ironman Award in 2005 in addition to team's Most Outstanding Offensive Player.
• Gained 1,177 as a freshman in 2003, 1,138 as a sophomore in 2004, 1,057 as a junior in 2005 and 1,960 as a senior.
• Active career rusher in all of Division I (I-A and I-AA) with 5,332 yards.
• Second all-time in UMass career rushing and second to gain 5,000 career rushing yards with 198 vs. UNH (12/2).
• Became fourth UMass player with 4,000 career rushing yards at Towson (10/14) with 24-yard run in fourth quarter.
• Leads all active players in the nation in career all-purpose plays (1,186). Ranks second among active players in career all-purpose yards (6,098).
• Second all-time at UMass in career rushing yards (5,322) and second in career carries (1,104), also third in career rushing touchdowns (42).
• Has gained more than 100 yards in a game 26 times at UMass and the Minutemen have a 22-4 record in those games, including 10 this year: at Villanova (9/16) with 104 yards; William & Mary (10/7) with 187 yards, at Towson (10/14) with 102 yards; a career-high vs. Rhode Island (10/21) with 235 yards; 152 yards at Northeastern (10/28), 125 yards vs. Hofstra (11/18), 152 yards vs. Lafayette (11/25), 198 yards vs. UNH (12/2) in NCAA Quarterfinal, 169 at #2 Montana (12/8) and 133 vs. Appalachian State (12/15).
• In four NCAA Tournament games, averaging 163.0 yards with 652 yards.
• Finished with five 100-yard games in a row, with 155.4 yards per game.
• Had 100-plus yards in four games in a row and five of six from Sept. 16-Oct. 28. Averaged 169.0 yards in four games from Oct. 7-28.
• Had scored a touchdown in 16 of the last 21 games including seven in a row (from Oct. 15, 2005-Sept. 2, 2006) -- 22 rushing and five receiving for 27 total over the last 20 games, overall. Only games without a TD this year were at Navy (9/9), at Northeastern (10/28) and vs. Maine (11/11).
• UMass was 13-1 all-time when he scores two TDs in a game last coming at #2 Montana (12/8).
• Third all-time at UMass in total touchdowns with 47 and third in points with 284.
• Ranked first in the A-10 and eighth in nation, this year with 130.7 yards per game (338 carries for 1,960 yards) for a 5.8 average per carry. His 130.7 per game goes down as sixth-best season in UMass history.
• His 1,960 ranked as the second-best season in UMass history. Marcel Shipp holds top mark (2,542 in 1998).
• His 338 carries is third-best season in UMass history.
• Led UMass in all-purpose yards with 146.5 per game. That ranked first in the A-10 and 13th nationally
• Led A-10 in scoring (7.2 per game) and touchdowns (18).
• His 18 touchdowns tied for sixth-best season at UMass.
• Had 14 career two-TD games, UMass was 13-1 in those games.
• Played 50th game in NCAA Championship to tie UMass record for career games played. Racked up 133 rushing yards against Applachian State (12/15), but did not score a TD. Also had three catches for 24 yards.
• Totaled 245 yards with 169 rushing and career-high 76 receiving at #2 Montana (12/8) in NCAA Semifinal. Scored UMass' only two touchdowns of the game.
• Gained 198 yards, second-most in career against #9 UNH (12/2) in NCAA Quarterfinal. Had 152 in first half alone. Scored first TD of the game on a 1-yard run just two plays after a career-long 60-yard rush down right sideline.
• In NCAA First Round vs. Lafayette (11/25) picked up 152 yards on 24 carries and two touchdowns. It was his 13th 2-TD game at UMass and 23rd career 100-yard game.
• Gained 125 yards on 21 carries vs. Hofstra (11/18) for his sixth 100-yard game this season. • Had season-low 50 yards on 17 carries vs. #19 Maine (11/11).
• Scored two rushing TDs (from 38 and 1 yards) as he carried 20 times for 89 yards at #9 New Hampshire (11/4).
• Went over 1,000 yards in eighth game of the year at Northeastern (10/28) with 152 yards on season-best 33 carries. That put him in elite company as one of three I-AA players with four 1,000-yard seasons.
• Second A-10 Offensive Player of the Week on Oct. 23. Also named UMass Co-Athlete of the Week.
• Ran for career-best 235 yards on 26 carries vs. Rhode Island (10/21). Mark is 10th-best single game in UMass history. Also scored two rushing touchdowns to give him 40 in his career total.
• Went over 4,000-yard mark and 19th career 100-yard game at Towson (10/14) with 102 yards on 22 carries. Also grabbed a 22-yard TD catch from Liam Coen.
• Named A-10 Offensive Player of the Week on Oct. 8.
• Rushed for 187 yards on 22 carries vs. William & Mary (10/7), his third-highest total. Scored two touchdowns in the win, UMass is 9-1 in his two-touchdown games. Had 130 yards in first half including career-long run of 50 yards.
• Had fourth career three-touchdown game vs. Stony Brook (9/23) with a pair of rushing TDs (10, 6 yds) along with 16-yard TD catch. Carried 12 times for 96 yards all in first half.
• First 100-yard game of 2006 came at Villanova (9/16), when he had 23 carries for 104 yards and a 10-yard TD run.
• Matched opening game rushing totals with 21 carries for 84 yards at Navy (9/9), also made a catch for 11 yards.
• Opened 2006 season with eighth-career two-touchdown game. Also ran for 84 yards with a 9-yard TD run and a 6-yard TD reception vs. Colgate (9/2).
• Had five 100-yard games last season including three games in a row from Oct. 22-Nov. 5.

[shank]

Agreed, but we're paper thin. I see Putzier as a Bargain-basement Tony Scheffler. Good "hands" TE, and given Nate Jackson is on IR it makes some sense.

FTR, I think Putzier> Nate, so not a bad long term signing either. I liked the guy.

yeah, i always liked jeb. i completely forgot that Nate was on IR.

[broncofaninfla]

Jeb for H-Back/FB so Larsen can play LB.

I hope you are right! Larsen deserves to be our MLB :beer:

[Mike]

Um... In what way Birthday boy? Or does this belong in the E harmony thread?

:flips off: Damn it, where is that smilie?

Just have to settle for this one. :smack:

[broncofaninfla]

From the 2007 East West Shrine Game report:

One of the best running backs on the field was University of Massachusetts Steve Baylark. Baylark looked fast on the field, good vision and caught the ball very well out of the backfield.

[Dreadnought]

So a good day for me. An old favorite returns, and Calvin Lowry is gone, hopefully for good. Next in the offseason time to see if the Lions or Redskins would care to make an offer for Nate Webster...

[LRtagger]

So a good day for me. An old favorite returns, and Calvin Lowry is gone, hopefully for good. Next in the offseason time to see if the Lions or Redskins would care to make an offer for Nate Webster...

Jason Taylor for Nate Webster straight up

[nj10]

I like Jeb, but unless he can play tailback this was a dumb signing.

[DenBronx]

i was worried that they signed jeb bush.

[nj10]

i was worried that they signed jeb bush.

As long as he can play tailback...

[CoachChaz]

Jason Taylor for Nate Webster straight up

In our dreams

[Dreadnought]

I like Jeb, but unless he can play tailback this was a dumb signing.

Why is it dumb? We play a lot of two TE sets, and have only two TE's on the roster who can actually catch a pass. Further, I suspect we've seen enough from Barrett that we felt we could safely flush a few of the chump safeties we've been bringing in by the bus load. Thats a good sign too.

[Dreadnought]

In our dreams

Nate Webster for 1/2 a Quiznos sub? The sub doesn't have to be that fresh.

[nj10]

Why is it dumb? We play a lot of two TE sets, and have only two TE's on the roster who can actually catch a pass. Further, I suspect we've seen enough from Barrett that we felt we could safely flush a few of the chump safeties we've been bringing in by the bus load. Thats a good sign too.

Because we're ignoring the MAJOR gap in our offense. Scheff and Graham are getting it done. I guess a little more depth wouldn't hurt but we need to address our RB situation.

[LRtagger]

Nate Webster for 1/2 a Quiznos sub? The sub doesn't have to be that fresh.


How about a Sammie instead of half a sub? Those mafakas are delicious.

[nj10]

How about a Sammie instead of half a sub? Those mafakas are delicious.

You're seriously over-estimating Webster's worth.

[NightTrainLayne]

Nate Webster for 1/2 a Quiznos sub? The sub doesn't have to be that fresh.

Wow. I've never actually had a Quiznos sub. . .based on tht comment I won't ever bother. They must be absolutely, gut-renching, horrible.

[LRtagger]

Because we're ignoring the MAJOR gap in our offense. Scheff and Graham are getting it done. I guess a little more depth wouldn't hurt but we need to address our RB situation.

We did...who else could we have possibly brought in that would make an impact at RB? We now have Bell, Pope, Boyd, and I bet Young is back soon.

We are going to have to run lot of 2 TE sets now and if Scheff goes down again at least we will have a guy that can replace him.

[nj10]

I assume you're being sarcastic...Good God I hope so...

[CoachChaz]

We did...who else could we have possibly brought in that would make an impact at RB? We now have Bell, Pope, Boyd, and I bet Young is back soon.

We are going to have to run lot of 2 TE sets now and if Scheff goes down again at least we will have a guy that can replace him.

Because Sheff WILL go down. You can bet on that

[Dreadnought]

Because we're ignoring the MAJOR gap in our offense. Scheff and Graham are getting it done. I guess a little more depth wouldn't hurt but we need to address our RB situation.

But that doesn't make it a dumb signing nj. Its not an either/or situation. Plus, do you really think there is a magic bullet guy out there who can waltz in and fix RB for us? Ain't gonna happen. I'm sure there are plenty of washed up stiffs out there looking for work (Hell, find out where Curtis Enis is these days) but even if they had more talent than Tatum Bell (doubtful) they couldn't learn the system quickly enough. Sad to say, but Bell, PJ Pope, and Selvin Young (maybe) are going to be it for the duration.

Putz fits a need, knows the system more or less, and was available, so we took advantage.

[LRtagger]

I assume you're being sarcastic...Good God I hope so...

I'm not.

I would rather have 2 TE sets and throw underneath all day then let Bell carry the ball 20 times.

Plus if we start running sweeps and stretch plays having an extra blocker to seal the outside or pickup a LB is not a bad idea.

The fact is there are no RBs available that are any better than those 4.

[G_Money]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=white]Steve Baylark to the practice squad. A second-year player out of the University of Massachusetts


Steve Baylark? Wow, okay. Lemme see if I remember anything about him. :confused: (I try to purge all former players before the current draft comes around. It’s like only having enough room in your head for so many phone numbers – eventually if you need to add one you throw another one away).

IIRC he has no wiggle. None. Kinda stumpy, decent leg-driver, slow-ish, wasn’t a great blocker? All power and up-the-gut running.

Stumpy Ruben Droughns without the same blocking skills. He runs really hard, though – you don’t have to worry about that.

Crappy vid of him that looks like has road-runner legs (well, really-slow-roadrunner legs).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWIS4hwLBA

Can I welcome him while still admitting I hope he never has to see the field for us?

It’s not that I think he’ll suck. Those straight-ahead holes we were opening – trying to open – for Hillis are the ones Baylark would need to be successful, so he could do decently well in the same power-back role.

But man, we are reachin’ for decent RB material at this point.

~G

[BroncoWave]

Good signing IMO. I always liked Putz when he was in Denver and he knows the system so I'm happy with it!

[JKcatch724]

Nice. Now we have two tight ends that get habitually wrecked every time they get tackled.

If Eddie Mac was the bruise, Jeb and Tony have to be the bruise brothers.

[CoachChaz]

When Steve Baylark and Cory Boyd are significant topics of conversation that people ACTUALLY want to see on the field...it's a sad, sad day for a team with the ground attack we are accustomed to and could potentially have with even a decent RB on the roster

[Dreadnought]

Nice. Now we have two tight ends that get habitually wrecked every time they get tackled.

If Eddie Mac was the bruise, Jeb and Tony have to be the bruise brothers.

Scheff is far better, but Putz always was able to get back up again

[Superchop 7]

Welcome Back Jeb !

Hey, at least we signed a RB. I was secretly leaning towards Pearman, (since they refuse to get Caulcrick) but this is probably better.

Herana Daze Jones......I expected better out of you.

Two tight ends is a good way to go if you have RB troubles.

Makes sense.

But really.......you had me at......."goodbye Lowry".

The rest is just icing on the cake.

[NameUsedBefore]

I always liked poot-zee-ay.

[broncofaninfla]

When Steve Baylark and Cory Boyd are significant topics of conversation that people ACTUALLY want to see on the field...it's a sad, sad day for a team with the ground attack we are accustomed to and could potentially have with even a decent RB on the roster


After seeing what the power running game brings to our offense with Hillis, I am VERY intrested in what type of RB we will put into our rotation. We've had a lot of young new kids come in and surprise/contribute this year. It's hard not to get excited by another new face when we have had such good luck so far. I'm excited about our future with Hillis and Torain, let's see what the other kids bring to the mix.

[JKcatch724]

Scheff is far better, but Putz always was able to get back up again

I love it. Scheff is better, but I'd say 75% of the time i saw either of them get tackled I expected some gruesome injury/mental disorder. But they always got back up (well, mostly). :laugh:

In any case, as long as they hold onto the ball then the wreckage was worth it.

[Lonestar]

The Denver Broncos on Wednesday signed free-agent tight end Jeb Putzier to their active roster and waived safety Herana-Daze Jones, Head Coach Mike Shanahan announced.

The club also on Wednesday signed running back Steve Baylark to its practice squad.

Putzier is a seventh-year player who begins his second stint with the Broncos, having played for the club from 2002-05 after Denver selected him in the sixth round of the 2002 NFL Draft from Boise State University. He saw time in six game, including one start, with Seattle this year before he was waived on Nov. 26 and also spent two years with Houston from 2006-07.

[CoachChaz]

After seeing what the power running game brings to our offense with Hillis, I am VERY intrested in what type of RB we will put into our rotation. We've had a lot of young new kids come in and surprise/contribute this year. It's hard not to get excited by another new face when we have had such good luck so far. I'm excited about our future with Hillis and Torain, let's see what the other kids bring to the mix.

Yeah, we take a potentially good fullback and blow up his hammy playing him at tailback and then hope he recovers so he can block for a tailback that never seems to be healthy.

I'm just getting a little sick of has beens and never will be's. If Shanny takes Boyd and runs him for 3 games...great, but unless that happens, the best we'll do is see that he has potential. That will only add him to the stable of kids currently in the MASH unit and we'll never get a bona fide stud to lead the running game.

[Lonestar]

I always like PUTZ he was our Timex TE, took a lickin and kept on tickin..
Not pretty but took viscous hits shook them off like Eddie mac used to do, get up readjust every pad on your body on your way back to the huddle..

Perhaps with some quality WR outside of him and Scheffler there will be huge match up problems.. like Scheffler he was never and stellar LOS blocker but down field he put alot of DB's on the asses..

[broncofaninfla]

Yeah, we take a potentially good fullback and blow up his hammy playing him at tailback and then hope he recovers so he can block for a tailback that never seems to be healthy.

I'm just getting a little sick of has beens and never will be's. If Shanny takes Boyd and runs him for 3 games...great, but unless that happens, the best we'll do is see that he has potential. That will only add him to the stable of kids currently in the MASH unit and we'll never get a bona fide stud to lead the running game.

Hillis was hurt catching a pass, would have happened even if he was playing FB. Torain also suffered a freak injury, anybody would have been hurt with the weight that was on top of his leg and the manner in which he fell. We've have bad luck with injuries no doubt but it's football. Every player stand a chance of getting hurt when they play.
Also, if Portis wasn't too busy milking his injury at Washington to get our of practicing with the team, he might not have been benched this past weekend. As it happened, he played, was ineffective, was benched and Washington lost. Denevr took a guy who was selling cell phones, whipped him into shape and he came in after Hillis got hurt and helped secure a victory over KC. I'll take that blue collar type over a prima donna any day.

[Lonestar]

Yeah, we take a potentially good fullback and blow up his hammy playing him at tailback and then hope he recovers so he can block for a tailback that never seems to be healthy.

I'm just getting a little sick of has beens and never will be's. If Shanny takes Boyd and runs him for 3 games...great, but unless that happens, the best we'll do is see that he has potential. That will only add him to the stable of kids currently in the MASH unit and we'll never get a bona fide stud to lead the running game.

frankly Coach I'm not all that sure we HAVE to have a stud buffalo any more.. would be nice to have but at the rate we have lost RB's over the past couple of years tying up HUGE chunks of your salary cap to get an extra 200-300 yards a season out of one.. I can;t see doing it..

I think had the fluke play on Hillis not happened he would have been a 900-1200 Yard back if played all year.. and frankly he would have been one they would have to game plan around with his running ability and then his hands out of the back field. He might have been the one.. and not overly expensive at that..

[dogfish]

So a good day for me. An old favorite returns, and Calvin Lowry is gone, hopefully for good. Next in the offseason time to see if the Lions or Redskins would care to make an offer for Nate Webster...


he's afree agent after this year-- can we substitute marlon mccree instead?

[Dreadnought]

he's afree agent after this year-- can we substitute marlon mccree instead?

Yes, but we don't need to get as much for McRee as for Webster. 3 or 4 stale potato chips will do.

[CoachChaz]

I'll leave it at this. Until we have a back that can shoulder the majority of the load successfully, we wont see a deep run into the playoffs again.

[tomjonesrocks]

Man, this team is busy. Lowery's gone--that's the happy takeaway for me.

Putz back--it's fine--am neither excited or pissed about the signing.
Can see why they did it.

Am considerably less excited about the RB signing after G's analysis...

[GEM]

I'll leave it at this. Until we have a back that can shoulder the majority of the load successfully, we wont see a deep run into the playoffs again.


They better bring in a DLine as well.

[shank]

I'll leave it at this. Until we have a back that can shoulder the majority of the load successfully, we wont see a deep run into the playoffs again.

this is bold. RBBC is the standard in today's NFL.
just look at the current division leaders 1st and 2nd carry leaders:

NY Giants: Jacobs 195, Ward 138
Carolina: Williams 212, Stewart 142
Minnesota: Peterson 293, Taylor 86
Arizona: Hightower 125, James 115

Tennessee: Johnson 222, White 170
Pittsburgh: Parker 154, Moore 126
NY Jets: Jones 243, Washington 62
Denver: Pittman 76, Hillis 68

sure all have one guy who has 'more' but carries in today's league are fairly balanced to keep guys fresh and to utilize different styles in diff situations. the only reason ours is SO balanced is because of injuries. the only teams with heavy discrepancies are the vikings and the jets. of course they want to use AD as much as possible, and the jets don't have another option that's nearly as good as jones.

we just need a group of guys with their own skills to stay healthy. if hillis, torain, alridge, and hall could stay healthy for all of 09 our running game would be sicknasty.

[CoachChaz]

this is bold. RBBC is the standard in today's NFL.
just look at the current division leaders 1st and 2nd carry leaders:

NY Giants: Jacobs 195, Ward 138
Carolina: Williams 212, Stewart 142
Minnesota: Peterson 293, Taylor 86
Arizona: Hightower 125, James 115

Tennessee: Johnson 222, White 170
Pittsburgh: Parker 154, Moore 126
NY Jets: Jones 243, Washington 62
Denver: Pittman 76, Hillis 68

sure all have one guy who has 'more' but carries in today's league are fairly balanced to keep guys fresh and to utilize different styles in diff situations. the only reason ours is SO balanced is because of injuries. the only teams with heavy discrepancies are the vikings and the jets. of course they want to use AD as much as possible, and the jets don't have another option that's nearly as good as jones.

we just need a group of guys with their own skills to stay healthy. if hillis, torain, alridge, and hall could stay healthy for all of 09 our running game would be sicknasty.

But look at it on a case by case basis.

Pitt: Moore's carries are up because Parker has been hurt
Tenn: Johnson is a rookie and smallish to handle 25-30 carries a game
Ariz: Hightower is a rookie to eventually replace James
Carolina: Stewart was added because Williams was a bit of a bust, but has been motivated this season. Eventually one of them will ge the bulk
Minn: Petersen gets the vast majority of the load
NYJ: Jones gets the majority of the load
NYG: Jacobs is a power back and usually injured, Ward is change of pace
Denver: They just havent had a choice

I agree that you need to have a solid back up, but I'd still like to have that guy that you can go to 25-30 a game.

Petersen, Portis, Barber, Turner, Jones, Tomlinson, Jackson etc.

[Mike]

I think we have that in Hillis. Not flashy, speedy, or shifty like those on your list, but able to get 4-6 yards a carry. Which is just enough to take the pressure off our young stud QB and let him do his thing.

[frauschieze]

Yes, but we don't need to get as much for McRee as for Webster. 3 or 4 stale potato chips will do.

Hell, I'll GIVE a full bag of decent potato chips if someone will take McCree (and his salary) away.

[smith49]

i too would like to see a stud back, back in our system. was hillis that guy? maybe, sure did great while he was getting the bulk of the carries. but what now? i wish i could answer that one. i think one of these days shanny is going to have to actually draft a back that can get the job done, unless hillis gets the nod and proves to be what we saw a glimpse of before the injury. as for this year, i think we are screwed, unless one of these relatively unkowns can prove themselves. who knows.?

as far as putz commin back, i think its ok. i think the reason he was released was his inability to block, wasnt it? could be wrong there, but he was descent at reicieving, and yac if i remember correctly. anyhow, not a bad signing IMO.

[Nature Boy]

Al though deceptively fast. Jeb Putzier was the most stiff and awkward looking runner I've ever seen from someone that catches a football down field.

[Dreadnought]

Putzier had gotten into Shanahan's sometimes pretty large Doghouse. This was after we franchised him to stiff the J-E-T-S.

Between him and Tatum I think we can now see the way back to Shanhans good graces - leave and come back at a point TBD. Next up: Kevin Kasper returns from who the Hell knows where.

[smith49]

Al though deceptively fast. Jeb Putzier was the most stiff and awkward looking runner I've ever seen from someone that catches a football down field.

yah, i dont think he ever scored too many style points, but i think he got the job done most of the time didnt he?

[Fan in Exile]

I'll leave it at this. Until we have a back that can shoulder the majority of the load successfully, we wont see a deep run into the playoffs again.

Yeah because none of the guys that we currently have could duplicate the dynamic Anderson/Bell duo that last got us to the AFC championship game.

[Mike]

Putzier had gotten into Shanahan's sometimes pretty large Doghouse. This was after we franchised him to stiff the J-E-T-S.

Between him and Tatum I think we can now see the way back to Shanhans good graces - leave and come back at a point TBD. Next up: Kevin Kasper returns from who the Hell knows where.

You could probably find him at one of the Denver Subway locations.

[Lonestar]

But look at it on a case by case basis.

I agree that you need to have a solid back up, but I'd still like to have that guy that you can go to 25-30 a game.

Petersen, Portis, Barber, Turner, Jones, Tomlinson, Jackson etc.


While you make a point I think this teams is evolving from a "run first mentality to what ever they will give us..

If they stack the box Jay is gonna pass them into lala land..

If they keep the safeties away from the LOS then we are gonna pound it.. with I;d guess right now Hillis and Torrain next year..

I do not remember how torain is catching passes.. but if he is half as good as Hillis is then we have the best of all worlds..

Unless Hillis does not come back from this injury he is hands down the 20-25 carry guy your looking for..

Giving the RB more carries will negate the passing attack we are building Marshall, Royale and Scheffler and who ever they have in the slot next year..

Coach getting each of these guys 3-8 passes a game including a few to RBs I'm not sure all of the RB combined will get 30+ touches a game.. Unless you find a way to get two balls on the field at the same time..

[Lonestar]

yah, i dont think he ever scored too many style points, but i think he got the job done most of the time didnt he?

he was Jake best friend for a while mr 3rd down.. not pretty, but got it caught and held onto it after some nasty hits he took..

[Nature Boy]

Don't the Broncos already have 4-5 TEs on the roster already? Let's bring in a defensive player that can play. Lowry sucked, I'm glad he's out.

[Simple Jaded]

he's afree agent after this year-- can we substitute marlon mccree instead?

Marlon McCree is also a free agent after this season, I believe he signed only a one-year-deal.

How bout Nate Jackson? Twelve pack and a large pizza sounds about right.......

[dogfish]

Marlon McCree is also a free agent after this season, I believe he signed only a one-year-deal.




oh, word!


i think i need to go crack a brew to celebrate. . . .

[Lonestar]

oh, word!


i think i need to go crack a brew to celebrate. . . .

have one for me as I do not drink beer..:salute:

[Simple Jaded]

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1701

3/8/2008: Signed a one-year, $2 million contract. The deal included a $500,000 signing bonus.

Hell! Make it a Double, Dogfish.......

[Lonestar]

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1701

3/8/2008: Signed a one-year, $2 million contract. The deal included a $500,000 signing bonus.

Hell! Make it a Double, Dogfish.......

$2.5 mil for that skell someone should be shot for that stupid move..

[Dean]

he was Jake best friend for a while mr 3rd down.. not pretty, but got it caught and held onto it after some nasty hits he took..

As JR said, Jeb is a TE that will catch the ball for you even if it is in traffic. He may also make the 'Jacked Up' play of the week.

It is difficult to tell what Shanahan has up his sleeve. The Broncos may be looking at Jeb as a receiving TE if Shef gets injured again. He can go over the middle and he can find the deep seam. Then again, Mike may be looking at him as a FB. He would shift from TE in a one back sets to a pro formation FB when he was here before. I could see that affering some advantages to the offensive coordinator.

P.S. I see on today's injury report that Mustard is listed as limited practice due to knees. Could it time to cut the Mustard once again?

[Superchop 7]

You could probably find him at one of the Denver Subway locations.

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The Subway sandwich maker was Kircus.

Just sayin

[Slick]

I have to agree with Coach on this mini RB discussion thread inside this thread. :lol:

Good for Putz. I also agree that we won't be able to count of Scheffler staying healthy the rest of the year.

Graham has stepped up. Our tackle play has allowed him to finally run more routes and he's starting to catch the ball like he did in college. He was a Mackey award winner I believe.

I'd give our TE's high marks this year. They've all played well IMO. I don't think it will take Jeb much time to see the field or develop a little chemistry with Cutler.

[Timmy!]

Yay!!!! I always like Putz. I remember him still giving %100 and making some damn tough catches and taking punishment while down by something like 24 points in one of those Colts playoff debacles in Indy. He's not Scheffler, but I'd take him over Jackson any day. We simply overpaid the guy and had to get rid of him. Always wanted him back for cheap. Sweet.

[WhatEver!!!]

Signing another TE to me says we may show the Panthers a 3 TE set. I believe we will show a 3 TE set and do a few screen plays instead of running plays because of the quickness of their DL and their run defense.

[TXBRONC]

this is bold. RBBC is the standard in today's NFL.
just look at the current division leaders 1st and 2nd carry leaders:

NY Giants: Jacobs 195, Ward 138
Carolina: Williams 212, Stewart 142
Minnesota: Peterson 293, Taylor 86
Arizona: Hightower 125, James 115

Tennessee: Johnson 222, White 170
Pittsburgh: Parker 154, Moore 126
NY Jets: Jones 243, Washington 62
Denver: Pittman 76, Hillis 68

sure all have one guy who has 'more' but carries in today's league are fairly balanced to keep guys fresh and to utilize different styles in diff situations. the only reason ours is SO balanced is because of injuries. the only teams with heavy discrepancies are the vikings and the jets. of course they want to use AD as much as possible, and the jets don't have another option that's nearly as good as jones.

we just need a group of guys with their own skills to stay healthy. if hillis, torain, alridge, and hall could stay healthy for all of 09 our running game would be sicknasty.

You make a great point. You could take Peterson and Taylor of the Vikings out of your list. Peterson has the carries of an every down back.

[broncobryce]

I always thought Scheffler was a much better version of Putzier....but now that we have both it will really stretch the field down the middle, opening lanes for.......(insert random running back here)

[TXBRONC]

I always thought Scheffler was a much better version of Putzier....but now that we have both it will really stretch the field down the middle, opening lanes for.......(insert random running back here)

I agree Scheffler is better than Putzier. I not against bringing him back but I don't think he will get many chance to be on the field.