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MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 01:21 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitarists_of_all_time/print

There are plenty of these out there, but I'll post the Rolling Stone one, because its definitely more controversial :D

(We had a Top 50 Metal Guitarists, but not a Guitarists in general thread...plus I posted this just because I want to know who Joe thinks is the greatest guitarist of all time)

Northman
11-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Where's the actual list?

Dr Velcro
11-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Has their list been updated in the past couple of years? I can't pull this article up to see them all.

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 01:26 PM
Where's the actual list?


Has their list been updated in the past couple of years? I can't pull this article up to see them all.

Fixed, I think. Confused me for a few minutes too.

OB
11-25-2008, 01:28 PM
Did DC make it :confused: If not that list is bunk :coffee:

Northman
11-25-2008, 01:30 PM
Well, i can tell you now that Cobain was a inovative song writer but nowhere near a great guitar player. At least not at #12, same goes with Johnny Ramone. No way do those guys top players like Harrison, Townsend, Blackmore, Reid, Winter, or Van Halen. Not too mention a slew of others. lol

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 01:31 PM
Well, i can tell you now that Cobain was a inovative song writer but nowhere near a great guitar player. At least not at #12, same goes with Johnny Ramone. No way do those guys top players like Harrison, Townsend, Blackmore, Reid, Winter, or Van Halen. Not too mention a slew of others. lol

That's why I posted this one. :D

frauschieze
11-25-2008, 01:32 PM
I cannot get behind Johnny Ramone at #17. No freakin' way.

Kapaibro
11-25-2008, 01:36 PM
Brian May at 39 with Cobain at 12?

BS

Shooting oneself in the head does not make you a great guitar player. Great songwriter yes, guitar player... meh

NightTrainLayne
11-25-2008, 01:49 PM
Well, as bunk as parts of that list are, I have to agree with Hendrix, Clapton and Robert Johnson in the top 5. . .

Robert Johnson was just amazing. Especially considering that nothing even approximating his approach was around before him. Like Hendrix, I often wonder what he would have accomlished if he hadn't died so young. They were both so revolutionary.

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 01:52 PM
Well, as bunk as parts of that list are, I have to agree with Hendrix, Clapton and Robert Johnson in the top 5. . .

Robert Johnson was just amazing. Especially considering that nothing even approximating his approach was around before him. Like Hendrix, I often wonder what he would have accomlished if he hadn't died so young. They were both so revolutionary.

You have to love the stories and the myths that surround Johnson as well...

Robert Plant is utterly obsessed with him. I think he even owns the land around the famous crossroads in Clarksdale.

NightTrainLayne
11-25-2008, 01:57 PM
You have to love the stories and the myths that surround Johnson as well...

Robert Plant is utterly obsessed with him. I think he even owns the land around the famous crossroads in Clarksdale.

The stories/myths are definitely part of the mystique, and it's hard to completely separate that from the actual music and playing. It's still pretty amazing what he did, in basically just a years time on the music scene before he died.

turftoad
11-25-2008, 01:57 PM
Sorry MB, that is a shit list. I know it's not yours so don't take it personal but it sucks.

Eddie Van Halen at #70? :tsk:

Dr Velcro
11-25-2008, 02:04 PM
I think this list favors ranking from a more commercial standpoint.

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 02:12 PM
Sorry MB, that is a shit list. I know it's not yours so don't take it personal but it sucks.

Eddie Van Halen at #70? :tsk:

I know. That's why I posted it instead of Guitar World's Top 100...because there was less to argue on their's :laugh:

broncofaninfla
11-25-2008, 02:25 PM
The link is firewalled here at work, who is #1? I have to agree I can't give this list any merit if Eddie is #70, what a joke!

yardog
11-25-2008, 02:26 PM
No Skynyrd :tsk:.

NightTrainLayne
11-25-2008, 02:28 PM
The link is firewalled here at work, who is #1? I have to agree I can't give this list any merit if Eddie is #70, what a joke!

Hendrix:


Jimi Hendrix
by Pete Townshend

I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone, because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD.

What he played was ******* loud but also incredibly lyrical and expert. He managed to build this bridge between true blues guitar — the kind that Eric Clapton had been battling with for years and years — and modern sounds, the kind of Syd Barrett-meets-Townshend sound, the wall of screaming guitar sound that U2 popularized. He brought the two together brilliantly. And it was supported by a visual magic that obviously you won't get if you just listen to the music. He did this thing where he would play a chord, and then he would sweep his left hand through the air in a curve, and it would almost take you away from the idea that there was a guitar player here and that the music was actually coming out of the end of his fingers. And then people say, "Well, you were obviously on drugs." But I wasn't, and I wasn't drunk, either. I can just remember being taken over by this, and the images he was producing or evoking were naturally psychedelic in tone because we were surrounded by psychedelic graphics. All of the images that were around us at the time had this kind of echoey, acidy quality to them. The lighting in all the clubs was psychedelic and drippy.

He was dusty — he had cobwebs and dust all over him. He was a very unremarkable-looking guy with an old military jacket on that was pretty dirty. It looked like he'd maybe slept in it a few nights running. When he would walk toward the stage, nobody would really take much notice of him. But when he walked off, I saw him walk up to some of the most covetable women in the world. Hendrix would snap his fingers, and they followed him. Onstage, he was very erotic as well. To a man watching, he was erotic like Mick Jagger is erotic. It wasn't "You know, I'd like to take that guy in the bathroom and **** him." It was a high form of eroticism, almost spiritual in quality. There was a sense of wanting to possess him and wanting to be a part of him, to know how he did what he did because he was so powerfully affecting. Johnny Rotten did it, Kurt Cobain did it. As a man, you wanted to be a part of Johnny Rotten's gang, you wanted to be a part of Kurt Cobain's gang.

He was shy and kind and sweet, and he was ****** up and insecure. If you were as lucky as I was, you'd spend a few hours with him after a gig and watch him descend out of this incredibly colorful, energized face. There was also something quite sad about watching him. There was a hedonism about him. Toward the end of his life, he seemed to be having fun, but maybe a little bit too much. It was happening to a lot of people, but it was sad to see it happen to him.

With Jimi, I didn't have any envy. I never had any sense that I could ever come close. I remember feeling quite sorry for Eric, who thought that he might actually be able to emulate Jimi. I also felt sorry that he should think that he needed to. Because I thought Eric was wonderful anyway. Perhaps I make assumptions here that I shouldn't, but it's true. Once — I think it was at a gig Jimi played at the Scotch of St. James [in London] — Eric and I found ourselves holding each other's hands. You know, what we were watching was so profoundly powerful.

The third or fourth time that I saw him, he was supporting the Who at the Saville Theatre. That was the first time I saw him set his guitar on fire. It didn't do very much. He poured lighter fluid over the guitar and set fire to it, and then the next day he would be playing with a guitar that was a little bit charred. In fact, I remember teasing him, saying, "That's not good enough — you need a proper flamethrower, it needs to be completely destroyed." We started getting into an argument about destroying your guitar — if you're going to do it, you have to do it properly. You have to break every little piece of the guitar, and then you have to give it away so it can't be rebuilt. Only that is proper breaking your guitar. He was looking at me like I was ******* mad.

Trying to work out how he affected me at my ground zero, the fact is that I felt like I was robbed. I felt the Who were in some ways quite a silly little group, that they were indeed my art-school installation. They were constructed ideas and images and some cool little pop songs. Some of the music was good, but a lot of what the Who did was very tongue-in-cheek, or we reserved the right to pretend it was tongue-in-cheek if the audience laughed at it. The Who would always look like we didn't really mean it, like it didn't really matter. You know, you smash a guitar, you walk off and go, "**** it all. It's all a load of tripe anyway." That really was the beginning of that punk consciousness. And Jimi arrived with proper music.

He made the electric guitar beautiful. It had always been dangerous, it had always been able to evoke anger. If you go right back to the beginning of it, John Lee Hooker shoving a microphone into his guitar back in the 1940s, it made his guitar sound angry, impetuous, and dangerous. The guitar players who worked through the Fifties and with the early rock artists — James Burton, who worked with Ricky Nelson and the Everly Brothers, Steve Cropper with Booker T. — these Nashville-influenced players had a steely, flick-knife sound, really kind of spiky compared to the beautiful sound of the six-string acoustic being played in the background. In those great early Elvis songs, you hear Elvis himself playing guitar on songs like "Hound Dog," and then you hear an electric guitar come in, and it's not a pleasant sound. Early blues players, too — Muddy Waters, Buddy Guy, Albert King — they did it to hurt your ears. Jimi made it beautiful and made it OK to make it beautiful.

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 02:30 PM
The link is firewalled here at work, who is #1? I have to agree I can't give this list any merit if Eddie is #70, what a joke!

1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman
3. B.B. King
4. Eric Clapton
5. Robert Johnson
6. Chuck Berry
7. Stevie Ray Vaughan
8. Ry Cooder
9. Jimmy Page
10. Keith Richards
11. Kirk Hammett
12. Kurt Cobain
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Jeff Beck
15. Carlos Santana
16. Johnny Ramone
17. Jack White
18. John Frusciante
19. Richard Thompson
20. James Burton
21. George Harrison
22. Mike Bloomfield
23. Warren Haynes
24. The Edge
25. Freddy King

broncofaninfla
11-25-2008, 03:32 PM
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman
3. B.B. King
4. Eric Clapton
5. Robert Johnson
6. Chuck Berry
7. Stevie Ray Vaughan
8. Ry Cooder
9. Jimmy Page
10. Keith Richards
11. Kirk Hammett
12. Kurt Cobain
13. Jerry Garcia
14. Jeff Beck
15. Carlos Santana
16. Johnny Ramone
17. Jack White
18. John Frusciante
19. Richard Thompson
20. James Burton
21. George Harrison
22. Mike Bloomfield
23. Warren Haynes
24. The Edge
25. Freddy King

There are some greats on here no doubt Kurt Cobain, Jerry Garcia and Johnny Ramone have no business being on this list.

East Coast Fan
11-25-2008, 03:53 PM
I never pay much mind in what Rolling Stone says and that list is another example of why....:tsk:

MOtorboat
11-25-2008, 04:19 PM
There are some greats on here no doubt Kurt Cobain, Jerry Garcia and Johnny Ramone have no business being on this list.

I'll disagree with Jerry Garcia, but not the other two.

Ahead of Eddie Van Halen. Probably not, but that clearly was a complete miss by Rolling Stone.

But Jerry could be in the Top 20.

CrazyHorse
12-15-2008, 01:53 PM
This list is total Crap...
Most Guitarists> Kurt Cobain
Where's Ace Frehley, Steve Clark?