Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs. Raiders

[sneakers]

Hopefully we can see a repeat of week 1, and the Broncos defense can continue to make strides towards respectability.

[Magnificent Seven]

Go broncos!

[SR]

Beating the RAIDERS isn't going to earn respect, but hopefully we win and can extend our win streak to three games and improve our record to 7-4

[omac]

Beating the Raiders will be a good achievement. They could be fired up and playing with a lot of emotion because of their blowout loss to us and because of the rivalry. That's always dangerous.

I'll be happy with a close win, or even an ugly win, and no additional injuries.

[SR]

I'd be happy with a win and no injuries. I'm a "win by one, or win by 30; a win is a win" kind of people. Though, it would be nice to not have another close game. Five of our six wins this year have been by four points or less...

[Den21vsBal19]

Beating the Raiders will be a good achievement. They could be fired up and playing with a lot of emotion because of their blowout loss to us and because of the rivalry. That's always dangerous.

I'll be happy with a close win, or even an ugly win, and no additional injuries.


That would make a nice change

[Tned]

I didn't shut off the laptop until 2:00 and no game day thread. I should have given it another 20 minutes.

Since I figure Indy for a win against SD, this would be a big win.

It would give us a 3 game lead with 5 to play, so bring us much closer to wrapping up a playoff spot.

[broncophan]

tough to blow a team out twice in one year.......I think the broncos will do it though.........

Enjoy the game everyone...........GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!

[Nomad]

It'll be a close game! GO BRONCOS!!!

[BroncoJoe]

Matchups

When the Broncos run the ball

The skinny: By giving the ball to Tatum Bell down the stretch Sunday in Atlanta, the Broncos showed they intend to involve him a little more as they move through November and into December. P.J. Pope also showed he can provide a little pop in the run game. Run defense had been the one thing the Raiders had going for them early, but their offensive struggles have put the defense in too many bad spots and opponents are controlling the ball and the clock -- averaging 34.5 run plays a game.

It's a fact: Oakland's past five opponents each have rushed for at least 162 yards, and four of the five have rushed for at least 192 yards.

Advantage: Broncos

When the Broncos pass the ball

The skinny: The Broncos went after DeAngelo Hall plenty in the September meeting between the teams. The Raiders since have released Hall, so Jay Cutler will have to pick on somebody else. Receiver Brandon Marshall didn't play in the first meeting because of his one-game suspension, but he figures to see Nnamdi Asomugha across from him plenty in this one. Not a stretch to say Asomugha will be the best Marshall has seen this year -- a quality get-it-done test for the third-year receiver.

It's a fact: With the league average for completion percentage sitting at a gaudy 61.4 percent, the Raiders have held five opponents to 56 percent or less this season and held three to 52 percent or less.

Advantage: Broncos

When the Raiders run the ball

The skinny: Justin Fargas is starting to show the wear and tear of some of his past injuries, but he still leads this team in rushing. Rookie Darren McFadden has had trouble with a toe injury as some teams before the draft had feared he would and Michael Bush publicly has said he'd like to carry the ball more. The Raiders use all three, and it could be a tough day if the Broncos aren't up to their improved tackling standards of the past few weeks. Most teams, though, have loaded up the line of scrimmage with little or no threat from the Raiders passing game.

It's a fact: Only twice during the past eight games have the Raiders rushed for at least 100 yards.

Advantage: Raiders

When the Raiders pass the ball

The skinny: The Raiders are last in the league throwing the football, and in a league that is sporting the Detroit Lions, that's saying something. Receiver Javon Walker was playing poorly and then got hurt, and quarterback JaMarcus Russell was playing poorly and then missed a game to injury. The Raiders inexplicably have phased Ronald Curry out of the offense and the team has six touchdown passes all season -- all Russell's. If the Broncos can keep the Raiders in difficult down-and-distance situations, they should be able to keep this passing game bottled up.

It's a fact: The Raiders are converting only 22 percent of their third-down plays, last in the league entering Week 12.

Advantage: Broncos

Special teams

The skinny: The last time these teams played, Johnnie Lee Higgins returned kickoffs 58 and 33 yards. The Raiders claimed former Pro Bowl kickoff returner Justin Miller off waivers earlier this month -- the Broncos also had put in a claim -- so they do have some potential here. The Broncos have been better of late after some September troubles in coverage, but they did have a couple of recent bobbles against Miami's Ted Ginn-- a 41-yard kickoff return the only time he touched the ball in the return game -- and Cleveland's Joshua Cribbs, who had a 43-yarder.

It's a fact: Of Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski's six missed field-goal attempts this season, four have come from at least 57 yards, with one from 76 yards.

Advantage: Broncos

Intangibles

The skinny: The Raiders are reeling and at least on paper they have no business coming to Denver and winning this one. But this is another test of mind and body for the Broncos' youthful roster. The Broncos feel pretty good about themselves after two big road wins, and they should, but the challenge of this game is simply to take care of their business. They give a solid effort here and they should move to 7-4.

Advantage: Broncos

Jeff Legwold's prediction: Broncos 30, Raiders 17

Five keys

1. One more time. The Broncos have been better against the run the past three games -- opponents are averaging 3.8 yards a carry during that span -- and they need to keep it up in this one. The only thing the Raiders offense can do with any consistency is run the ball.

2. Be ready. The Broncos surprised the Falcons with Spencer Larsen at middle linebacker, they surprised the Falcons by rushing from a six-defensive-back package on third down. The Raiders will have had some time to look at it, and the Broncos will have to be prepared to see an adjustment or two.

3. Mix and match. Eventually, if the Broncos earn a playoff spot, they will have to run the ball to have a shot in a game that means something against a defense ready to play. They showed Sunday they can move Peyton Hillis, Tatum Bell and P.J. Pope in and out of the lineup and make some things happen.

4. Be special. The Raiders have two impact returners in Johnnie Lee Higgins and Justin Miller. They both have the ability to create game-changing plays in the blink of a missed tackle. The Broncos have to keep them contained.

5. Confidence game. The Raiders are reeling, they have injuries and they haven't won since mid-October. The Broncos could use a fast start in this one to keep their crowd interested and keep the Raiders from regaining their balance.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/23/broncos-might-find-success-keying-routt/

[pnbronco]

Joe I have to post after you...:eek: I don't care if they win by one point as long as they are playing as a team. My biggest hope is that there are no injuries today. So what SR said pretty much....

[Davii]

Here's hoping for a good win! Offense and Defense both playing well, no more injuries...

Go Broncos!

Go Colts!

3 game lead with 5 remaining at the end of the day!

[hamrob]

Hopefully, this will give our defense an oppurtunity to improve and gain confidence. We are alot better than the Raiders...hopefully it shows on the field today.

I'm excited to see Larsen, Hillis, woodyard, TB, Bell and some of the other new contributors play ball. You're only as good as your weakest link...it's time for us to tighten things up a little.

[Day1BroncoFan]

May there be no injuries today.
May we win by one or more points.


I hope we kick butt and take no prisoners.

[broncogirl7]

This will be a great game.
Go Broncos! Crush the Raiders!
Go Colts! May you send Phillip up the River without a paddle! Please spank Rivers and make him cry!

[gobroncsnv]

Wow, someone actually went out on a limb and said the Broncos would have the advantage when the opponent passes the ball... How long has THAT been in coming???

[Denver27og]

Does anyone know if Champ is playing today?

[Day1BroncoFan]

Does anyone know if Champ is playing today?

Here is the injury report. (http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27128)

Questionable: CB Champ Bailey (Groin)

[SR]

It's a fact: Of Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski's six missed field-goal attempts this season, four have come from at least 57 yards, with one from 76 yards.


:shocked:

[Tned]

Hopefully, this will give our defense an oppurtunity to improve and gain confidence. We are alot better than the Raiders...hopefully it shows on the field today.

I'm excited to see Larsen, Hillis, woodyard, TB, Bell and some of the other new contributors play ball. You're only as good as your weakest link...it's time for us to tighten things up a little.

Yea, I'm curious to see if Larsen and Hillis will continue what were good starts last week (I know Hillis had the big 4th down conversion two weeks ago), but also what Pope will do. Those two 15 yard runs looked good last week, so I am looking forward to him getting some carries this week.

[girler]

Here is the injury report. (http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27128)

Questionable: CB Champ Bailey (Groin)

I wonder if Champ has Irish blood in him? He might be magically delicious. ;) I could kiss it better for him. :lollypop:

[Day1BroncoFan]

I wonder if Champ has Irish blood in him? He might be magically delicious. ;) I could kiss it better for him. :lollypop:

You could talk to the training staff.

[girler]

You could talk to the training staff.

I could be part of the training staff with my special skilz. A Sunday morning only trainer kind of job. :D

[Reidman]

Not exactly worried about this game but didn't Faiders beat the Jets...??


Lets go Broncos!

Cutler 350 yds, Marshall and Royal both hit the century mark....that would be awesome!

[slim]

Just win, baby.

[SR]

I'd like to see Mike involve Pope in the offense more. He impressed me last week. I'm starving.

[slim]

Yeah, Pope looked good. I would like to see more of him.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I'm not sure if this is correct, but I remember during the CBS NFL Today show that they had Champ being as listed out with his injury for this week along with Webster, Williams, Young, and McCree. I'm not sure if that was an official inactive list, but that Randy Cross dude (he's getting hella fat) was emphasizing the missed presence of Bailey and other starters on the defense, and that they'd be without them today.

*shrugs*

[Jaws]

Hoping the Broncos are on the ball for this one and don't let up at all.

Hoping I can find a link for it too. Stupid sky tv aren't showing this game. I thought they would seeing as it's a division game, but it must be because they think the Faiders are too crap to be exposed to British viewers!

Or maybe it's just because Al Davis it too ugly!

[Reidman]

Hoping the Broncos are on the ball for this one and don't let up at all.

Hoping I can find a link for it too. Stupid sky tv aren't showing this game. I thought they would seeing as it's a division game, but it must be because they think the Faiders are too crap to be exposed to British viewers!

Or maybe it's just because Al Davis it too ugly!

By "on the ball" you mean when Oakland fumbles, right...??

Hey Mer, how you been?
If I find a link I'll send it your way, have to watch online myself today...:(

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Sharkie if I find a place to watch it online, I'll let you know. . . FO SHO.

[Jaws]

Sharkie if I find a place to watch it online, I'll let you know. . . FO SHO.

Thanks :beer:

I think Stooge tv may be showing it on the same channel as the one Jets game is on at the moment. I've got that running right now, it's a bit choppy and breaking up, hopefully it will be better later.

[Nomad]

Flipping between the Jets game and Dolphins game, BRONCOS better win this game because the Jets are looking damn good and I believe the Chargers will win tonight!

[Reidman]

Guys, try this...

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24419&part=sports

The TVants one is working good for me, pretty good quality too. They're showing the SF/Dal game right now.

[Jaws]

Guys, try this...

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24419&part=sports

The TVants one is working good for me, pretty good quality too. They're showing the SF/Dal game right now.

Thanks Reid :beer:

[Reidman]

Thanks Reid :beer:

No prob.

Enjoy the game everybody!

[Retired_Member_001]

Trap game.

[Kapaibro]

Been watching the Browns Texans game.

Painful stuff. The Texan D has been good, and that's about it.

Rosenfels is falling apart again in the 2nd half, Quinn has been pulled for Anderson, Braylon Edwards can't catch a ball to save himself, and Lewis has had 2 fumbles!

Just awful.

[Tned]

Dang, I figured Cassel wouldn't have two big games in a row, so while I played him in one league (because he was my only option), I benched him in favor of Rodgers in another league and he throws up another 400 yards.

[Nomad]

Jets tearing up the Titans! 72 Dolphins can celebrate!

[Tned]

Inactives:
Young, Lowry, McCree, Crowder, Bailey, DJ Williams, Webster and Clemons.

[Kapaibro]

Thanks Reid :beer:

I get the game on Yahoo Game pass.

It costs me, but this way I don't have any issues with the game freezing, and I can change channels.

The biggest problem I've had was the Thursday night game against the Browns, and the idiot customer service guy who had a love of canned chat responses.

[Bronco4ever]

I would love to be 7-4 after the game and not feel so disappointed. Hopefully our boys don't let us down. Raiturds suck.

[G_Money]

Link:

mms://a1464.l3072865463.c30728.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1464/30728/v0001/reflector:65463?auth=caEbAccdvbAcncfb1b_a7dqata0br bfbWba-bjkCnD-E-CpAFExt&aifp=0002&upos=1

[Bronco4ever]

Good job defense! We should have some good momentum here.

[Nomad]

Good job:defense:!!!!!:salute:

[shank]

rogers>lowry

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Great start :defense:

[Kapaibro]

geez that was scary

[Nomad]

Looks like this is going to be a game of defense! Spoke too soon!:D

[Day1BroncoFan]

What hapened?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:salute: Hillis :salute:

[Bronco4ever]

Hillis is a stud... I can't believe he was available in the 7th round.

[Nomad]

False start at home!:tsk:

[Nomad]

Cutler nailed and on a knee!

[Bronco4ever]

That's **EDIT** up! Fine some people for that crap!

[Nomad]

Nice veteran move by Stokley:salute:

[Nomad]

Awesome catch by marshall

[Bronco4ever]

Well that sucks.

[Nomad]

:mad:Fumble by Hillis and Cutler:mad:

[PatricktheDookie]

Damn.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

[Kapaibro]

arse

[Northman]

We have got to work on ball security. We are just terrible when it comes to TO's.

[Zweems56]

god.... damn it.

[Nomad]

We have got to work on ball security. We are just terrible when it comes to TO's.

Hillis was too wide, so Cutler should have pulled it back and took the sack!:D

[lex]

Woodyard is quite a player.

[Nomad]

Wrap up and tackle you morons!

[Nomad]

A totally different game than Week 1

[G_Money]

Wesley's the man.

~G

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:salute::salute: OK :defense::salute::salute:

[Zweems56]

Mkay... Score.

[Nomad]

:defense::defense::defense::salute:

[G_Money]

Winborn flat crushed Vargas in that gap. Tryin to keep up with Woodyard. :D

~G

[shank]

i'm ok with that 'winborn shuffle'

[Zweems56]

Key to this game should be.... Score fast so Russell has to throw the ball (to someone other than fargas)

[Nomad]

BRONCOS need to test the Raiders secondary out on the first play and try to strike deep with Royal!!!

[G_Money]

That drop's on Cutler, not Graham for once.

~G

[Kapaibro]

I like the Rookie D!

[LRtagger]

wooooo

[G_Money]

Darrell Jackson must be the slowest receiver we have. How did he not get in the end zone?

~G

[Nomad]

Jackson's an idiot for keeping on looking back, run! It's coming back anyway:ohwell: because he was touched!

[Kapaibro]

Darrell Jackson must be the slowest receiver we have. How did he not get in the end zone?

~G

This is true, but I'll take the catch and the great thinking to get up and continue the play.

[LRtagger]

This is the most I have seen Clady get beat, but Jay is doing a great job stepping away from the rush.

[Nomad]

This is the most I have seen Clady get beat, but Jay is doing a great job stepping away from the rush.

That's why his throws are off, like the one to Graham!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:elefant::elefant::elefant:

[LRtagger]

****

[Retired_Member_001]

I can't watch the game, I'm forced to watch NYG V AZ instead. :(

[LRtagger]

wow we caught a break there

[Kapaibro]

Thank god for that

[Nomad]

Lucky break for Cutler!

[Kapaibro]

I can't watch the game, I'm forced to watch NYG V AZ instead. :(

That should at least be an interesting game.

[Zweems56]

wow lucky, I was furious listening to that for a second there

[Drill-N-Fill]

Link anybody?

[Lonestar]

just got back anyone have a legit stream for the game?

[G_Money]

Horrible, horrible playcalling.

~G

[LRtagger]

these inside handoffs to hillis are dumb...how many times are they going to run them before they figure out they dont work.

[Nomad]

Disagree with that play call! Quick out to Stokley for the first down would have been my call!

And Prater misses!

What a game:tsk:

[Kapaibro]

Try this

http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24419&part=sports

[G_Money]

Okay, that's it: Stop outside of 50 if we're gonna kick a FG. He can't hit crap between 40-49.

And that's 10 points we should have on the board.

~G

[Lonestar]

Link anybody?

try this but it SUCKS..

http://www.justin.tv/chuycolonia

[G_Money]

Put this in your media player:

mms://a1464.l3072865463.c30728.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1464/30728/v0001/reflector:65463?auth=caEbAccdvbAcncfb1b_a7dqata0br bfbWba-bjkCnD-E-CpAFExt&aifp=0002&upos=1

~G

[BroncoAV06]

Okay, that's it: Stop outside of 50 if we're gonna kick a FG. He can't hit crap between 40-49.

And that's 10 points we should have on the board.

~G

Agree, been at least one miss a week as of late.

[Day1BroncoFan]

I hope this is like the last two games and we play a lot better in the second half again.

[Nomad]

No pass rush again!

[Lonestar]

http://www.justin.tv/canadian_furb/popout


much better..

[G_Money]

33 makes me want to gouge my eyes out every time he shows up on my screen.

~G

[Nomad]

No matter who you put at safety, they still suck!:tsk:

[LRtagger]

one thing i have noticed about this D...if our offense doesnt score when they make stops, they lose their enthusiasm...almost as if they are giving up

[Nomad]

Raiders about to score on the 1:tsk:

[Lonestar]

who is 57??

[Retired_Member_001]

Put this in your media player:

mms://a1464.l3072865463.c30728.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1464/30728/v0001/reflector:65463?auth=caEbAccdvbAcncfb1b_a7dqata0br bfbWba-bjkCnD-E-CpAFExt&aifp=0002&upos=1

~G

Hey G, where did you get that link from?

MMS links are VERY clear, but they die after 30 second sif they haven't been used.

I need a fresh one.

[G_Money]

Why is Mario Hagan playing? Is Larsen injured?

Hagan's been way off so far.

~G

[G_Money]

Try this one:

mms://a1313.l3072865312.c30728.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1313/30728/v0001/reflector:65312?auth=caEcfbAataic6czdybidJb5a4bEcj dVcdd_-bjkC8Z-E-BoECMwv&aifp=0002&upos=1

[gobroncsnv]

Reckon we'll figure out that the game has started pretty soon???

[shank]

why isn't larsen out there?

57 is mario haggan JR

[G_Money]

Got it here.

http://www.stoogetv.com/player.html

in the chat window.

[BroncoAV06]

Yep, only the Broncos defense could let the Raiders offense get rolling. Can't belive the turnovers/missed FG's this year. Yes they are killer but I mean after every turnover it seems the other team puts points on the board, Broncos can't come back with a stop.

[Retired_Member_001]

http://www.justin.tv/canadian_furb/popout


much better..

JR, have I ever exppressed my affection for you?

[Bronco4ever]

Dang. Nice tackle!

[Retired_Member_001]

Great play by Paymah.

[Nomad]

Paymah made him twirl!:lol:

[LRtagger]

wow paymah

[shank]

HELL YESSSS woooohooo

[shank]

psht lame

[Bronco4ever]

oh crap!

[G_Money]

*sighs* What idiot called a timeout?

~G

[Zweems56]

bad time for a timeout...

[Retired_Member_001]

YES!

I've know managed to get a fresh MMS link.

Nice and clear.

[Nomad]

Denver called timeout before the play!:rolleyes::mad: Second chance for Raiders to score a TD and the defense had them held to a FG!!:mad:

[LRtagger]

nice use of a timeout there...now they are going to score :tsk:

[BroncoAV06]

Why is Mario Hagan playing? Is Larsen injured?

Hagan's been way off so far.

~G

Didn't they move Larsen to the outside? Which in turn would lead Haggen to play the middle.

Defense showing some life.

[shank]

great effin stand baby!

[Bronco4ever]

Wow. Great play again by the defense.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:defense::defense::defense: Stopped them twice :elefant:

[LRtagger]

nice D

[lex]

Its a good thing they started practicing in pads. Two stops before was unthinkable.

[Lonestar]

great play by larsen stuffed it up and he had no where to go..

[shank]

ooh, interesting. let's go D!

[Nomad]

Raiders going for it! Watch for Russell running it in!

[LRtagger]

Didn't they move Larsen to the outside? Which in turn would lead Haggen to play the middle.

Defense showing some life.

No, they moved Kuti to WILL

[G_Money]

Larsen's back, thank God.

And how did Woodyard become the emotional leader of the defense in 2 weeks?

Winborn's playing better.

If only we could rush the passer and cover, we might have something.

Please don't let Slowik keep his job because of "injuries" and "season-long improvement."

~G

[fcspikeit]

Does anyone have a link that works to the game? please :salute:

[Zweems56]

Still got the stop. Is the better link that someone posted from justintv named popout laggy for anyone else? I cant seem to get it going full speed

[Zweems56]

Wow! Go fans!

[Nomad]

Way to go 12th man!:salute:

[Retired_Member_001]

Damn the Raiders suck.

[shank]

great job 12th man

[Day1BroncoFan]

false start! ool.

[fcspikeit]

Still got the stop. Is the better link that someone posted from justintv named popout laggy for anyone else? I cant seem to get it going full speed

I would take anything at this point.

[Zweems56]

http://www.justin.tv/canadian_furb/popout

but a bit laggy

[LRtagger]

dang i was hoping they would have a chance to go for it so we could potentially make a big stop

[BroncoAV06]

No, they moved Kuti to WILL

Yep, my bad.

Nice stand to hold them to 3.

[shank]

Didn't they move Larsen to the outside? Which in turn would lead Haggen to play the middle.

Defense showing some life.

nah, on the big play to the TE it was woodyard, hagan, and winborn.

[Nomad]

Now the offense needs to pull their heads out of their rearends and play like they can and put 7 on the board! Strike quick Shanny!!!! Or Royal could just KRTD!:D

[Lonestar]

Still got the stop. Is the better link that someone posted from justintv named popout laggy for anyone else? I cant seem to get it going full speed

http://www.justin.tv/canadian_furb/popout

works great.. best I've ever had..

[shank]

offense needs to step up and put up some mad points.


do you all realize that we've only tried deep balls to royal 2 times this year?

[gobroncsnv]

Good thing for the false start... We didn't have contain on the left side, cause EE bit pretty hard on the play fake.

[Nomad]

Good thing for the false start... We didn't have contain on the left side, cause EE bit pretty hard on the play fake.

I noticed that as well!

[fcspikeit]

http://www.justin.tv/canadian_furb/popout

works great.. best I've ever had..

Its taking forever to load! I wonder if my conection is good enough to run it?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Marshall is hurt:tsk:

[G_Money]

God play by marshall to prevent the int.

Hope he's okay.

~G

[LRtagger]

with a good throw, thats a TD

[Nomad]

That was a poor throw by Cutler to Marshall

[Lonestar]

Its taking forever to load! I wonder if my conection is good enough to run it?

my connection is smoking today..

[Day1BroncoFan]

Go Hillis!

[Lonestar]

hillis 8yards took out the CB

[G_Money]

Hillis hates being taken to the ground.

~G

[Day1BroncoFan]

Ausimoga hurt.

[Nomad]

As. is off the field throw deep

[Nomad]

:brick: Come on Shanny!

[fcspikeit]

my connection is smoking today..

Really what you have? I have satalite. The screen wont open. All I see is the spinning deal in the middle. It's really pissing me off!

[Bronco4ever]

That sweep was beautiful

[Day1BroncoFan]

Hillis is the man.

[Lonestar]

does anyone doubt hillis is a STUD..

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Nice block Clady:salute:

[Lonestar]

tater the dancer what a joke

[BroncoAV06]

Been some hitting today!

[Bronco4ever]

Stokes is the man.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

:salute: Stokley :salute:

[Day1BroncoFan]

Stokely!

[Nomad]

Nice call and great catch by Stokley

[Nomad]

Scheffler has to jump for that one

[fcspikeit]

Someone sent me to a place last year that hacked streams. you would ask the main guy for the game you wanted then after he did his thing the link would pop up. you had like 2 seconds to click the ling or it was lost. They did that so they couldn't be tracked.

The connections were always the best. They opened up in windows media player... Does anyone know the link to that place? If so will you please sent it to me in a PM...

[G_Money]

Marshall should have caught that.

~G

[Day1BroncoFan]

Choke. :mad:

[Nomad]

Marshall should have caught that.

~G

makes a big difference when you catch with your hands and not your body!

[G_Money]

Okay, 3-3 tie. C'mon defense.

Can't afford to have this turn out like KC. Turn up the heat.

~G

[LRtagger]

that pressure is really getting to jay

[gobroncsnv]

Especially where they pop him in the head, helmet to helmet... no call. Jay was pretty ticked.

[G_Money]

Yeah, he was pissed about that.

But he hasn't been under a lot of pressure all season. Best to have a game where he sees some pressure.

Offense is in the same pattern they have been since week 3, tho - can't do anything right in the first half to finish drives. They START drives fine. And then they grind to a halt.

~G

[gobroncsnv]

Well, maybe they'll fine the guy when the bills get handed out this week. No sense calling that during a game, unless you wear blue and orange...
Sure seems like we waste timeouts, doesn't it?

But yeah, Jay does need to learn to face pressure. You can't throw those "punt passes" like we used to get ticked at Jake about...

[Nomad]

We can always count on the Raiders to screw themselves:laugh:, too bad BRONCOS can't capitalize!:tsk:

[shank]

lechler is out there doin poppers

[G_Money]

Okay, 2 minute drill time...

~G

[Tned]

Man, it seems like earlier in the year, Marshall came up with all of those.

[Nomad]

Good try by Royal!:salute:

[G_Money]

Two identical plays, two throws that are off by a yard. Damn.

~G

[LRtagger]

jay has been very off so far...two potential TDs that jay misses

[G_Money]

*sighs* Can we please make a first down and not give the ball back to Oakland in 20 seconds?

If Cutler can't make the long throw and the WRs can't make the spectacular catch, then I'd love to have a couple of first downs if you please.

~G

[shank]

jay can't dial in the long ball, but all of them have been catchable

[G_Money]

QB draw on 3rd and 10? Really? Seriously?

Just go for it.

If we're stupid enough to run that play on that down and distance, then we should have no problem manning up on offense and keeping our D off the field til the 3rd quarter.

~G

[Day1BroncoFan]

Suck!

[G_Money]

There it is.

THAT'S what happens when your offense is pathetic and your playcalling is criminal.

~G

[Bronco4ever]

There is the special teams.

[Zweems56]

******* shit.

[LRtagger]

mother ******

[BroncoAV06]

Well....out kicked the coverage.

[G_Money]

We DESERVED that.

~G

[Nomad]

With the way the BRONCOS are playing, the Jets are licking their chops for next Sunday!!!

BRONCOS are pathetic as of right now! Instead of Jay pouting around he needs to get in his teams faces and motivate this team!:tsk:

[G_Money]

Jay's not a motivator.

Somebody else better be in charge of that.

~G

[Retired_Member_001]

Just wanted to say, trap game, watch it.

[Lonestar]

Just wanted to say, trap game, watch it.

I told them so.. no one wanted to hear..

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Is there nothing open over the middle????:tsk:

[G_Money]

Stop.

Throwing.

The Long Ball.

If you can't even get it close.

DAMN.

~G

[MOtorboat]

I told them so.. no one wanted to hear..

No you didn't. You think the Broncos are going to lose every game.

[Nomad]

Jay's not a motivator.

Somebody else better be in charge of that.

~G

Well, most look at their QB for confidence and Jay is doing a terrible job today!

[Lonestar]

anyone want to say that Jay is not having a banner day agaisnt this D.. actually against our receivers.

[Kapaibro]

One positive.

At least the Broncos aren't getting all the penalties!

[Retired_Member_001]

I told them so.. no one wanted to hear..

I said it before the game as well.

No one wants to listen. :tsk:

[G_Money]

It's not a trap game, it's a divisional game.

When it's a rivalry, this is what happens. We've played horrible halves already this year, and then beautiful 2nd halves.

Time for another 2nd half where we put it all together.

~G

[Nomad]

I told them so.. no one wanted to hear..

Not really a trap game when the BRONCOS are so predictable when it comes to playing these games.

[Day1BroncoFan]

Play calling sucks big time!!! :mad:

[LRtagger]

WTF...conceding the FG??

[omac]

Stupid playcalling when the Broncos got the ball at less than 2 minutes left. Why go with 2 risky passes and kill no clock, giving the Raiders lots of time. Bates has been good, but like I keep saying, sometimes he gets way too cute with the playcalling.

[LRtagger]

Gdit

[G_Money]

Hey, more cowardice by the Broncos.

Love that. Nothing like quitting on a half because you're afraid you'll throw a pick if you take a shot at the end zone.

And there's the missed FG. Again, we deserved that.

Cowardice deserves failure.

~G

[Retired_Member_001]

Trap game.

Now I'm convinced.

[Day1BroncoFan]

The second half will be ours.

[Kapaibro]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[nevcraw]

Play calling seems a bit stale since 1st quarter..

[MOtorboat]

Trap game.

Now I'm convinced.

Trapping what? This team hasn't played well enough all season for any game to be a trap.

[G_Money]

A first half filled with stupidity, incompetence and cowardice by the Broncos offense.

Why am I saying, "thank God for our defense" in a season like this?

~G

[broncobryce]

Cutler just smacked the kicker in the head

[Retired_Member_001]

Trapping what? This team hasn't played well enough all season for any game to be a trap.

:lol:

We should really be beating the Raiders though.

But as Jrwiz said, it's the typical type of game we'd lose.

[Nomad]

A first half filled with stupidity, incompetence and cowardice by the Broncos offense.

Why am I saying, "thank God for our defense" in a season like this?

~G

And thank God the Raiders screw themselves as well! Any other team and the score would be 31-3!

[Italianmobstr7]

I'm still a little pissed about the run play on 3rd and 6 on our 2nd or 3rd drive. Doesn't make any freaking sense. Our offense better come out firing in the 2nd half. The D has done it's job.

[Kapaibro]

Please switch Clady on for the 2nd half, and please stop Jay from passing to a covered BMarsh

[Italianmobstr7]

And thank God the Raiders screw themselves as well! Any other team and the score would be 31-3!

No it wouldn't...

[MOtorboat]

:lol:

We should really be beating the Raiders though.

But as Jrwiz said, it's the typical type of game we'd lose.

A.) Should we? Its the NFL.

B.) Jr never thinks this team is going to win, and even when we do win he thinks its a horrible job, so I'm not sure why you even listen to him.

[Retired_Member_001]

A.) Should we? Its the NFL.

B.) Jr never thinks this team is going to win, and even when we do win he thinks its a horrible job, so I'm not sure why you even listen to him.

I don't care if it's the CFL, we should be beating the Raiders.

Secondly, I agree about Jr, but sometimes he actually speaks some truth.

[gobroncsnv]

We could have taken so many lessons from our game last week... a win in all 3 phases... We're losing 2 out of the 3 today... What a drag!

[broncogirl7]

Second half will be ours....but damn it Prater...you should have made those!!!

[Nomad]

No it wouldn't...

Relatively speaking! But you never know! And I know the Raiders haven't been in the red zone that many times!

[Lonestar]

No you didn't. You think the Broncos are going to lose every game.



this is the classic donkey trap game..

we coming off a huge win we should not have had last week..
we have a huge game next week against a top team
we beat them like rented mules in their building.
they have a pretty damned good defense..
just the kind of game that Jay can toss a couple three picks
our defense can make fourth string QB look like all pros..
but their offense stinks..
yep a huge game for us and another throw away for davis and company

Classic trap game..

http://broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27055 post 4

NO actually I do not believe they will lose every game..

http://broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26846&page=2 post16

[MOtorboat]

I don't care if it's the CFL, we should be beating the Raiders.

Except, this isn't the CFL, and every team has talent.

Either way, this is just arguing semantics, but there are no trap games in the NFL.

[omac]

A first half filled with stupidity, incompetence and cowardice by the Broncos offense.

Why am I saying, "thank God for our defense" in a season like this?

~G

What do you mean by cowardice? I missed the early part of the game, but since the first Raider field goal, they've gone deep quite a bunch of times, when the smarter plays were to take shorter yardage rushing and kill some clock. They went 2 consecutive deep plays, one to Marshall then the other to Royal.

[MOtorboat]

http://broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27055 post 4

NO actually I do not believe they will lose every game..

http://broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26846&page=2 post16

Your posts don't reflect your pick.

Just so you know.

[Retired_Member_001]

Except, this isn't the CFL, and every team has talent.

Either way, this is just arguing semantics, but there are no trap games in the NFL.

My definition of a trap game:

A game where one team is on some sort of roll, and comes up against a team lesser to them and loses to that team.

Would you not agree that's what we are facing today?

[Nomad]

Secondly, I agree about Jr, but sometimes he actually speaks some truth.

JR has been on the money the last few years, but I disagree with this being a trap game! Denver is playing a divisional rival, a lesser team, and usually they don't show up for these games. Week 1 was a fluke and the Raiders were more unprepared than Denver being that good!