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titan
08-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Tweets from Cecil Lammey tonight (@cecillammey):

as far as depth charts are concerned I was surprised Brady Quinn was not the 2nd QB listed as he's looked better than #tebow in practice

Of course surprised by Orange Julius listing but no doubt it will be very different by start of regular season

let's start with the QB position - Kyle Orton continued his strong performance, going thru progressions quickly and making good decisions

Orton also stayed away from just locking onto $$$ Lloyd. It was the first time in camp he didn't force it to him, made secondary reads

Again, defense can't sack him but you felt a sense of comfort and confidence coming from Orton, let's see it in a game 1st b4 we're excited

Brady Quinn put in another good performance today, some comments from media on sideline included 'I bet Brady is pissed' (4 being 3rd on DC)

Quinn didn't play pissed, but continued to look more comfortable and put in a strong showing for himself

Quinn is trusting what he sees on the field and it's resulting in bigger plays, defense not thinking 'easy out' w/BQ under center anymore

Quinn zipped a pass in between 2 defenders today that was dropped by Knowshon - I think he was surprised BQ squeezed it in there

now to #tebow - another up and down day, with most plays on the down side, kid is still holding onto ball too long

He did look good running the bootleg to his left, threw on the run & hit Orange Julius on a drag route, pass was tight w/good velocity

as I've always said w/QBs arm strength is overrated, but you have to spin it nicely, some struggle on the run but T2 looked good doing that

In the pocket it's a different story, unlike Quinn T2 is NOT trusting himself and is playing like he's afraid to make a mistake

Playing when you're afraid to make a mistake results in one not making any plays as a passer, T2 aiming the ball instead of just throwing it

the aiming takes extra time, makes his motion SUPER deliberate, and allows the defense to jump the route

several of Tebow's passes ended up short today, guys like Virgil Green wide open on swing route T2 puts it in the dirt

final note on Tebow, just like Sat scrimmage had Orange Julius wide open down sideline and pass was over his head by about 12 feet!

Orange Julius told me at Combine that he could jump over Kia and dunk - kid has hops and still couldn't reach errant Tebow pass

on to the RBs, today saw the return of LenDale White to the practice field, didn't do much but actually had a nice play on a screen pass!

Moreno had the 1 drop I described earlier but overall had a very good day catching the football. snatching passes w/arms extended away

most of Moreno's good runs net about 7 yards, and he's not having a ton of those, most of the time he dances behind line and is stuffed

Moreno's best carry saw him bounce out, then bounce in, jump cutting to daylight, 2nd level was stopped though

Moreno did a good job of hitting the hole hard, but does not show ability to run thru arm tackles, lack of leg drive means little YAcontact

saw Moreno try to get elusive with a spin move, but instead of spinning against the grain he pirouetted in 1 spot & was swallowed up

hat 'move' reminded me of the ballerina on top of my daughter's jewelry box - idea was right, execution was :puke:

There was one point during practice where Moreno seemed a little cramped up, he was sitting, stretching his right thigh and rubbing it

one more note on LenDale White, he did look quicker today, running with more urgency when he got a chance

Willis McGahee had a very strong day as a runner, and simply understands how to run in a zone system better than Moreno

He was getting to the 2nd level consistently and running through arm tackles once there

McGahee will stay low at the LOS and keeps his legs churning after initial contact, very crisp cuts when he changes direction

power and leg drive is there, vision, instincts and body control all look sharp too - he seems motivated to prove he still has 'it'

Brandon Minor made a few good plays again, including 1 catch on a wheel route where he spun, caught, and continued running in stride

Lance Ball was inconsistent today, one run he was cutting back against the grain to get to 2nd level, next run stuffed

when the hole is clogged he needs to be a battering ram, going to the edge just loses yards

saw Lance Ball try to sky over the pile (not even at the GL) like Sweetness, vertical not there and good way to get hurt

back to Brandon Minor... had a good stutter step to create space on 1 run, other run a jump cut cost him yards and ball was stripped

as @PostBroncos says - Jeremiah Johnson is my boy! Love the way this kid runs and hope he shows what he can do in preseason games

JJ had a nice bounce run where he baited (toying w/D again) into over committing inside, bounced outside for big run down sidelines

JJs next run not so nice as Braxton Kelley met him in the hole and stopped him in his tracks

JJ then did a nice job of quickly jumping over trash at the LOS, didn't sky but a quick hop then continued his run, guys agility is gr8

couple of quick defensive notes before I go to WR/TEs - Von Miller is everywhere! his speed might be the best of any pass rusher in #nfl

Not only is Miller fast but he has a quick first step and does a good job of anticipating the snap, Orton has to be happy Von can't hit him

saw Von get after the QB, stuff the run, and even work well in coverage today - nice all around game!

Ty Warren is huge, like insanely huge, makes other DTs look like juco players, playing quick off the snap too

Joe Mays picked off Brady Quinn during 2-minute drill at the end of practice, was covering on short route to Julius, great anticipation

final defensive point, Jeremy Jarmon continues to get penetration *gasp* in the middle of the OLine - 2 'sacks' at least today

ready for some $$$Lloyd, gonna have to add another dollar sign the way he's playing!

was toying with rookie S Rahim Moore, getting open deep for big TD catch from Orton, split middle of defense for six

had a pass bounce off his chest, falling to ground (pretty much on his butt) he was able to gather the catch as defenders swooped in

Eric Decker barely made it into the notebook today, as did Eddie Royal, more of the same from both - Eddie w/speed out routes, ED ovr middle

David Anderson working as a returner, plus tough receiver over the middle, I feel he should make the team.

urious move by the team as many TEs lined up in the backfield as FBs today - even Orange Julius, weird to see him back there

Julius Thomas continued to play in line, and was put in motion, creates so many mismatches and is teams best move TE IMHO

Orange Julius had a high twisting catch, think Kellen Winslow Jr back at Mia vs Va Tech in 4th quarter - leaps, spins, catches, secures

I don't see any other TEs here even capable of making that type of play, Daniel Fells?!?! #please

Orange Julius did blast open a cutback lane for McGahee as in line TE, McGahee saw it and cut there quick

Other times he was getting his hands on guys but clearly doesn't have technique down as a blocker, effort guy but a Work In Progress

better than Virgil Green who failed to even get his hands on a guy (again) on a run where McGahee got to 2nd level, VGs guy tackled Willis

so far Virgil Green has been a disappointment to me, expected more from the rookie (not as a blocker, he's always been bad)

Green can be a smooth receiver, I've seen it on tape, but in person he lets too many passes in to his body, thinks about RAC too much

Dan Gronkowski is a decent 2 way TE, plus he can (and did) play a little FB - I think he's safe on roster

Daniel Fells has consistent hands, strong concentration, can play FB and block, I say he's safe

Rosario may be odd man out here, he's made some plays (1handed grab) but not getting a ton of looks cause lack of separation

Richard Quinn could also be out, blocking TEs who can't block are not long for this league

I still believe #broncos may try to squeeze Virgil Green thru to Practice Squad, it's a mistake as someone will snag him

The depth chart is a Work In Progress and the preseason games will help these players determine their fortune

In summation, don't read too much into the first depth chart of the preseason - things change pretty quick around here

MOtorboat
08-09-2011, 12:06 AM
Tebow is terrible.

Doom and Von rock.

That is all.

WARHORSE
08-09-2011, 12:46 AM
Name for our defense?


THE BLUE VON DOOM!!!:D

Agent of Orange
08-09-2011, 01:59 AM
Tweets from Cecil Lammey tonight (@cecillammey):

as far as depth charts are concerned I was surprised Brady Quinn was not the 2nd QB listed as he's looked better than #tebow in practice

Of course surprised by Orange Julius listing but no doubt it will be very different by start of regular season

let's start with the QB position - Kyle Orton continued his strong performance, going thru progressions quickly and making good decisions

Orton also stayed away from just locking onto $$$ Lloyd. It was the first time in camp he didn't force it to him, made secondary reads

Again, defense can't sack him but you felt a sense of comfort and confidence coming from Orton, let's see it in a game 1st b4 we're excited


now to #tebow - another up and down day, with most plays on the down side, kid is still holding onto ball too long

He did look good running the bootleg to his left, threw on the run & hit Orange Julius on a drag route, pass was tight w/good velocity

as I've always said w/QBs arm strength is overrated, but you have to spin it nicely, some struggle on the run but T2 looked good doing that

In the pocket it's a different story, unlike Quinn T2 is NOT trusting himself and is playing like he's afraid to make a mistake

Playing when you're afraid to make a mistake results in one not making any plays as a passer, T2 aiming the ball instead of just throwing it

the aiming takes extra time, makes his motion SUPER deliberate, and allows the defense to jump the route

several of Tebow's passes ended up short today, guys like Virgil Green wide open on swing route T2 puts it in the dirt

final note on Tebow, just like Sat scrimmage had Orange Julius wide open down sideline and pass was over his head by about 12 feet!

Orange Julius told me at Combine that he could jump over Kia and dunk - kid has hops and still couldn't reach errant Tebow pass



Thats a huge but. Its so big, you can't just gloss over it by lightly acknowledging it. In fact, there shouldnt even be a but. The phrase "defense can't sack him" should end with a period and not a "but". Nothing else after that phrase matters so there should be no "but".

This simple fact is hugely distorting how the QBs are being viewed. Orton isn't even really playing football right now because he can't be tackled.

Yet, amazingly, this is how people are evaluating them.

horsepig
08-09-2011, 02:15 AM
The "Denver Donut".,

BroncoStud
08-09-2011, 05:25 AM
Boy Moreno is sure sounding SLOW.

Juriga72
08-09-2011, 06:06 AM
Thats a huge but. Its so big, you can't just gloss over it by lightly acknowledging it. In fact, there shouldnt even be a but. The phrase "defense can't sack him" should end with a period and not a "but". Nothing else after that phrase matters so there should be no "but".

This simple fact is hugely distorting how the QBs are being viewed. Orton isn't even really playing football right now because he can't be tackled.

Yet, amazingly, this is how people are evaluating them.

Right above it...."Orton kept from locking on Llyod for the first time all camp"...

Hmmm..."Locking on llyod"....... Where have I seen that before???:confused:

Tned
08-09-2011, 07:19 AM
This one gave me a chuckle. A sad chuckle because we reached and overpaid for the kid and I feel bad for him, but a chuckle none the less considering how he's been touted by the McDaniels apologists.


RT @cecillammey: Richard Quinn could also be out, blocking TEs who can't block are not long for this league

BigSarge87
08-09-2011, 07:36 AM
Please don't call Erik Decker ED. Sounds like a Viagra commercial.

Tned
08-09-2011, 07:41 AM
Please don't call Erik Decker ED. Sounds like a Viagra commercial.

That gave me a laugh. :laugh:

SOCALORADO.
08-09-2011, 07:52 AM
Boy Moreno is sure sounding SLOW.

And apparently he still loves to dance in the backfield. I see McGahee/White getting most of the carries. Tebow/Moreno traded to MIA in some package deal for picks. All accounts so far are these guys are just terrible.

T.K.O.
08-09-2011, 08:22 AM
Name for our defense?


THE BLUE VON DOOM!!!:D

Aa long as they are not the "Orange Mush" of the last few years.....;):laugh:

atwater27
08-09-2011, 08:24 AM
Maybe they should try out Tebow at halfback. That way, he still might have a chance to start.

Jsteve01
08-09-2011, 08:29 AM
Maybe they should try out Tebow at halfback. That way, he still might have a chance to start.

Atwater....i love love love the combo of your avy and sig. Im in the minority but my favorite safety was Smith. Never got the respect he deserved because he was playing in Denver but in my mind he is an all time great and deserves hall consideration right along with Atwater.

SOCALORADO.
08-09-2011, 08:30 AM
How Steve Atwater has not been inducted into the HOF is criminal.

BroncoStud
08-09-2011, 08:33 AM
And apparently he still loves to dance in the backfield. I see McGahee/White getting most of the carries. Tebow/Moreno traded to MIA in some package deal for picks. All accounts so far are these guys are just terrible.

I just realized that Miami is going to give us a run for Luck.

Juriga72
08-09-2011, 08:34 AM
How Steve Atwater has not been inducted into the HOF is criminal.

Uh.... Lets not even go there as one Randy G needs to first be elected.

spikerman
08-09-2011, 09:33 AM
Uh.... Lets not even go there as one Randy G needs to first be elected.

Unfortunately, it's all up to the veteran's committee now.

tomjonesrocks
08-09-2011, 10:17 AM
"Moreno's best carry saw him bounce out, then bounce in, jump cutting to daylight, 2nd level was stopped though"

"Moreno did a good job of hitting the hole hard, but does not show ability to run thru arm tackles, lack of leg drive means little YAcontact"

"saw Moreno try to get elusive with a spin move, but instead of spinning against the grain he pirouetted in 1 spot & was swallowed up"

"hat 'move' reminded me of the ballerina on top of my daughter's jewelry box - idea was right, execution was :puke:"

Sounds about right.

tomjonesrocks
08-09-2011, 10:19 AM
Maybe they should try out Tebow at halfback. That way, he still might have a chance to start.

I've always felt he'd make a great TE...

Jsteve01
08-09-2011, 10:25 AM
I just realized that Miami is going to give us a run for Luck.

Dude your pessimism is sickening. Why the hell even watch the games then? I see you as one of those sad souls who's not happy unless he has something to bitch about. Ok I get it you don't like Orton, but there's essentially an entirely new front 7. Some exciting young rookies, interesting free agents and a new defensive minded coaching staff.

SOCALORADO.
08-09-2011, 10:38 AM
I just realized that Miami is going to give us a run for Luck.

DEN will be right there in the end.
Problem solved.
http://ataylorblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/andrew-luck.jpg

SOCALORADO.
08-09-2011, 10:40 AM
I've always felt he'd make a great TE...

Like Chris Cooley in WASH. Thats his best bet in DEN to play.

underrated29
08-09-2011, 11:04 AM
And apparently he still loves to dance in the backfield. I see McGahee/White getting most of the carries. Tebow/Moreno traded to MIA in some package deal for picks. All accounts so far are these guys are just terrible.



How much you want to bet????

You've gone off the deep end socal. I will bet you anything I have that Moreno and Tebow do not get traded. All accounts also do not say they are terrible. That would be the little man inside your head.


Remember whose report you are reading. Super biased Cecil. He hates knowshon and loves Jermiah Johnson. He praises the guys he likes and doesnt really do much for the ones he dislikes. Remember when he said Chevis Jackson was legit and keep an eye on him. I saw him once at practice and said he will not make the squad (even though I only knew his number and not who he was)--we cut him last week btw.


ALL ACOUNTS SAY THAT JERIMIAH JOHNSON IS THE STARTER- Esp going by cecils reports. Fact is the guy is lucky to make the team.




So tell me the terms of the bet and i will agree.

SOCALORADO.
08-09-2011, 11:10 AM
How much you want to bet????

You've gone off the deep end socal. I will bet you anything I have that Moreno and Tebow do not get traded. All accounts also do not say they are terrible. That would be the little man inside your head.


Remember whose report you are reading. Super biased Cecil. He hates knowshon and loves Jermiah Johnson. He praises the guys he likes and doesnt really do much for the ones he dislikes. Remember when he said Chevis Jackson was legit and keep an eye on him. I saw him once at practice and said he will not make the squad (even though I only knew his number and not who he was)--we cut him last week btw.


ALL ACOUNTS SAY THAT JERIMIAH JOHNSON IS THE STARTER- Esp going by cecils reports. Fact is the guy is lucky to make the team.




So tell me the terms of the bet and i will agree.

It would be a good trade though. DEN gets picks to rebuild, MIA gets another RB to pair with Bush and a....QB/H-BACK/TE/RB/WILDCAT GUY. Perfect fit for both teams.

BroncoStud
08-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Dude your pessimism is sickening. Why the hell even watch the games then? I see you as one of those sad souls who's not happy unless he has something to bitch about. Ok I get it you don't like Orton, but there's essentially an entirely new front 7. Some exciting young rookies, interesting free agents and a new defensive minded coaching staff.

You presume to know a lot about me. I watch every NFL game, every week, and I haven't missed a Broncos game in going on 3 decades since being a very young kid.

I watch the games because I'm a Broncos fan, and because I'm a Broncos fan I have been lucky enough to watch REAL QBs play in this town. Elway, Morton, Plummer (arguably), and Cutler... Because of the midget we're stuck with Orton for another year.

But I'm ok with that because it might mean we get another REAL QB, Andrew Luck. And if Denver wins 4 games and ends up with Luck, I'm perfectly fine with that. It's rebuilding, I'd rather the Broncos rebuild with actual TALENT than a stopgap choker like Orton.

When trading I take losses all the time, but I know that a temporary loss will eventually lead to a long-term reward. It's worth it, to ME. Win 6 games, 7 games, and get what? Or win 3 games and get a franchise QB - I'm all in on that. Get me Andrew Luck and ship Orton and Tebow out on the first plane you can book, get the Josh McDaniels taint off of this team and move on with a solid founation.