Brandon Marshall, what a loser.

[BoltsOwnU]

So how do all of you here enjoy watching your receiver bitch and whine while throwing his teammates under the bus, or better still, telling cornerbacks how to play?!?

Quite a role model. A true personality bust if ever there was one. Reading about his childish me-first rant was almost as good as Cutler proclaiming himself better than Elway.

Don't get me wrong, we have problems in SD, like when a DC gets fired and all of our players man up and claim responsibility for their own poor play that contributed to the firing. Er, oh wait, that's accountablity, heart, AND character. Somethng foreign to the Donks.

Oh, and here, let me save some trouble for all the unoriginal mongoloids that will surely jump in with the following lame response as if it really matters:

"Championships, something foreign to the Chargers". Sure, just as foreign as they are to any one in a Donk uni as well kids.:coffee:

[Devilspawn]

The only people claiming responsibility these days are Al Qaeda and The Taliban. Welcome to the NFL, home of the finger pointing whiner.

[SR]

So how do all of you here enjoy watching your receiver bitch and whine while throwing his teammates under the bus, or better still, telling cornerbacks how to play?!?

Quite a role model. A true personality bust if ever there was one. Reading about his childish me-first rant was almost as good as Cutler proclaiming himself better than Elway.

Don't get me wrong, we have problems in SD, like when a DC gets fired and all of our players man up and claim responsibility for their own poor play that contributed to the firing. Er, oh wait, that's accountablity, heart, AND character. Somethng foreign to the Donks.

Oh, and here, let me save some trouble for all the unoriginal mongoloids that will surely jump in with the following lame response as if it really matters:

"Championships, something foreign to the Chargers". Sure, just as foreign as they are to any one in a Donk uni as well kids.:coffee:

Cutler never said he was better than Elway.

Marshall is a primadonna and I don't think anyone will deny that, but talent wise, he is exponentially better than any WR the Chargers can throw on the field.

[slim]

Fat old guy trying to score with hot chicks at the bar, what a loser.

[Gamechanger]

he's better than Javon Walker FTW

he's just livin up to being "Baby T.O."

[SR]

If Cutler quit throwing the ball to opposing defenses, maybe Marshall would get the ball more. Just a thought.

[Northman]

Wow, troll city USA.

[BeefStew25]

http://archive.profootballtalk.com/MerrimanBeforeAfter.jpg

[LRtagger]

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070812/070812_tomlinson_hmed_8p.rp350x350.jpg

[GEM]

And you'd still give anything to have that kind of talent at the WR position. ;)

[BoltsOwnU]

Fat old guy trying to score with hot chicks at the bar, what a loser.

Nobody's fat here lil fellah, but hey all are welcome on our bandwagon. Stop by and grab a beer from my pal in the hat. . .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/DSC00700.jpg

Grab yourself one of these,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/General/DSC00444.jpg

and move out of your parents' basement.:D

And yeah, this thread was a bit trollish but it's a bye week and I'm bored. GEM, I'd take either of our receivers over BM, epsecially if he brought that attitude. Be real please.

[GEM]

Nobody's fat here lil fellah, but hey all are welcome on our bandwagon. Stop by and grab a beer from my pal in the hat. . .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/DSC00700.jpg

Grab yourself one of these,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/General/DSC00444.jpg

and move out of your parents' basement.:D

And yeah, this thread was a bit trollish but it's a bye week and I'm bored. GEM, I'd take either of our receivers over BM, epsecially if he brought that attitude. Be real please.

Uhhh huh. Chambers or Vincent Jackson. Sure ya would. :laugh:

[BoltsOwnU]

Uhhh huh. Chambers or Vincent Jackson. Sure ya would. :laugh:

Let's see:

TD's/ypc avg/%receptions for 1st down/rec 20+ yds/rec 40+yds

VJ: 4/17.9/90%/8/4 also, 30 receptions for 538 yds
CC: 5/17.1/68.8/2/0 also 16 receptions for 273 yds
BM: 3/12.3/62.7/0/0 51 receptions for 625 yds

So your boy, with almost double VJ's catches gets under 100 more yards, no big play ability, fewer touchdowns, oh yeah, and he's a head case.

Yeah, I'll take a pass. SO would anyone with half a mind that wasn't a Donk homer.:coffee:

:D

[BoltsOwnU]

http://archive.profootballtalk.com/MerrimanBeforeAfter.jpg

You realize that's photoshopped right? The top photo is Jamal Williams our NT with the head ps'ed onto it.

Note the lack of tattoo on the neck for starters but this was debunked aaages ago.:rolleyes:

[Retired_Member_001]

So how do all of you here enjoy watching your receiver bitch and whine while throwing his teammates under the bus, or better still, telling cornerbacks how to play?!?

Quite a role model. A true personality bust if ever there was one. Reading about his childish me-first rant was almost as good as Cutler proclaiming himself better than Elway.

Don't get me wrong, we have problems in SD, like when a DC gets fired and all of our players man up and claim responsibility for their own poor play that contributed to the firing. Er, oh wait, that's accountablity, heart, AND character. Somethng foreign to the Donks.

Oh, and here, let me save some trouble for all the unoriginal mongoloids that will surely jump in with the following lame response as if it really matters:

"Championships, something foreign to the Chargers". Sure, just as foreign as they are to any one in a Donk uni as well kids.:coffee:

Last time I checked, BMarsh was better than any wide receiver you have.

[BoltsOwnU]

Last time I checked, BMarsh was better than any wide receiver you have.

Stats don't lie. He's not.

[Retired_Member_001]

Stats don't lie. He's not.

And who might you have that beats Brandon?

[LRtagger]

Stats don't lie. He's not.

LOL

what about this stat?

4-4 > 3-5

[LRtagger]

PS...Brandon draws triple coverage with a safety over the top which effects stats.

[Davii]

Let's see:

TD's/ypc avg/%receptions for 1st down/rec 20+ yds/rec 40+yds

VJ: 4/17.9/90%/8/4 also, 30 receptions for 538 yds
CC: 5/17.1/68.8/2/0 also 16 receptions for 273 yds
BM: 3/12.3/62.7/0/0 51 receptions for 625 yds

So your boy, with almost double VJ's catches gets under 100 more yards, no big play ability, fewer touchdowns, oh yeah, and he's a head case.

Yeah, I'll take a pass. SO would anyone with half a mind that wasn't a Donk homer.:coffee:

:D


Wait... Don't your stats there say BM has almost 100 MORE yards?

[BoltsOwnU]

PS...Brandon draws triple coverage with a safety over the top which effects stats.

LOL really?!? And maybe a giant eagle flies above him to break up plays as well. Basically you are claiming he draws the entire secondary, or at least FOUR of them if it's a nickel or dime package on every play??? lol IF so, then your other receiver should already be having a probowl season. Why not learn the game some, m'kay?

[BoltsOwnU]

And who might you have that beats Brandon?

VJ's production alone, especially judged per catch, surpasses BM. BM has 90 more yards, but he needs 20 more receptions to get there? :rolleyes: Meanwhile, BM has ZERO plays over 20 yards, ditto 40 yards. VJ has 8 and 4 respectively. VJ has a 90% first down percentage, BM? 62%. Also, VJ averages 17+ yards per catch, BM? 12.3.

VJ is better, period. Oh wait, BM does have the bigger ego and attitude and willingness to throw his team under the bus. He also pouts and whines better than VJ. I guess BM is better at somethings.:rolleyes:

Truth hurts.:D

[MOtorboat]

Congratulations, the only thing you've proven with your "Brandon Marshall" and "Jay Cutler" threads is that your defense MUST be worse than ours, because CLEARLY your offense is SO much better than ours, and yet you have won one less game than we have, and have lost a game to us.

:rolleyes:

I've never met anyone who talked so much smack about a team that was 3-5. Compensating for something BOU?

[LRtagger]

LOL really?!? And maybe a giant eagle flies above him to break up plays as well. Basically you are claiming he draws the entire secondary, or at least FOUR of them if it's a nickel or dime package on every play??? lol IF so, then your other receiver should already be having a probowl season. Why not learn the game some, m'kay?

The triple coverage includes the safety.

I would say our "other receiver" is having a pretty good year

46 catches for 461 yards and 3 TD (a ROOKIE)...thats a projection of over 90 catches and almost 1000 yards with a game missed.

If you knew the game (m'kay) you would realize that good receivers draw more attention which effects statistics. If we go by YPC Devery Henderson is the best WR in the league....I mean, he has only a few less yards than that stud VJ in nearly half the catches :lol:


I like how you conveniently skipped the stat I posted....I mean, since we are all about stats, Denver must be the better of the two teams, right?

[Gamechanger]

seeing Broncos and Chargers fans fight makes me LAWL

[BoltsOwnU]

Congratulations, the only thing you've proven with your "Brandon Marshall" and "Jay Cutler" threads is that your defense MUST be worse than ours, because CLEARLY your offense is SO much better than ours, and yet you have won one less game than we have, and have lost a game to us.

:rolleyes:

I've never met anyone who talked so much smack about a team that was 3-5. Compensating for something BOU?

Nah, it's just a slow week and I had some time to stir things up. BM acting like a complete a-hole just made for an easier target than Denver's typical mid- and late-season slide into the abyss.:D

[BoltsOwnU]

The triple coverage includes the safety.

I would say our "other receiver" is having a pretty good year

46 catches for 461 yards and 3 TD (a ROOKIE)...thats a projection of over 90 catches and almost 1000 yards with a game missed.

If you knew the game (m'kay) you would realize that good receivers draw more attention which effects statistics. If we go by YPC Devery Henderson is the best WR in the league....I mean, he has only a few less yards than that stud VJ in nearly half the catches :lol:


I like how you conveniently skipped the stat I posted....I mean, since we are all about stats, Denver must be the better of the two teams, right?

Nice backpedal unless your mastery of english is that poor. "Triple coverage with safety help over the top"? Maybe it can be read to cover your backpedal, buuuuut I don't think that's what you were saying.

Also, VJ is on track for 60 receptions and 1064 yards using your methodology, with 8 td's.

Chambers would be on track for 889 yards with 52 catches um, and that's missing three games already this season. Oh yeah, and 13 touchdowns. Again, using your method of projecting the season.

Lastly, our wide recievers are still kicking the stuffing out of BM and ER with a pro-bowl TE on our team that is our #1 receiver for all intents and purposes. So really, it's like putting our #2 and #3 WR's against your #1 and #2.:lol:

Cherry pick the Henderson analogy if you want, but I looked at the stats across the board and nothing you've offered up, weakens the plain reality of what I'm sayin'.:coffee:

[SmilinAssasSin27]

VJ's production alone, especially judged per catch, surpasses BM. BM has 90 more yards, but he needs 20 more receptions to get there? :rolleyes: Meanwhile, BM has ZERO plays over 20 yards, ditto 40 yards. VJ has 8 and 4 respectively. VJ has a 90% first down percentage, BM? 62%. Also, VJ averages 17+ yards per catch, BM? 12.3.

VJ is better, period. Oh wait, BM does have the bigger ego and attitude and willingness to throw his team under the bus. He also pouts and whines better than VJ. I guess BM is better at somethings.:rolleyes:

Truth hurts.:D

First off...you are making up stats. BM has receptions over 20 yards. He AVERAGED 25.8 ypc vs NO and has had 4 other games with catches over 20 ypc. Now the 20 catch effort in week 2 (after missing a week) does hurt the ypc, but it also demonstrates his ability to be dominant. VJ takes advantage of LT and AG's leftovers and gets to face 2nd rate CBs and Safeties while BM gets matched up w/ the best defender the opponent has to offer PLUS help.

VJ looked GREAT dropping that easy TD vs NO by the way...but at least it didn't cost you a win or anything. Oh...wait... Please try harder next time. Thanx for playing.

[SR]

Is someone REALLY trying to say Vincent Jackson is BETTER than Brandon Marshall?! LMFAO.

[LRtagger]

Nice backpedal unless your mastery of english is that poor. "Triple coverage with safety help over the top"? Maybe it can be read to cover your backpedal, buuuuut I don't think that's what you were saying.

Also, VJ is on track for 60 receptions and 1064 yards using your methodology, with 8 td's.

Chambers would be on track for 889 yards with 52 catches um, and that's missing three games already this season. Oh yeah, and 13 touchdowns. Again, using your method of projecting the season.

Lastly, our wide recievers are still kicking the stuffing out of BM and ER with a pro-bowl TE on our team that is our #1 receiver for all intents and purposes. So really, it's like putting our #2 and #3 WR's against your #1 and #2.:lol:

Cherry pick the Henderson analogy if you want, but I looked at the stats across the board and nothing you've offered up, weakens the plain reality of what I'm sayin'.:coffee:


LOLWUT

What does Chambers have to do with anything? The fact that VJ is not even the #1 target on your own team (a 3-5 team, mind you) should be enough to convince anyone that VJ is not a top 5 receiver in this league. I have no argument about Chambers, he is a stud.

But again, if Chambers draws more attention, should effect the ease of your other receivers getting open. Do you understand how coverage works, or do you just think one player on defense has one player on offense that they cover? I mean, it would make sense...11 = 11, right?

Sorry if you didn't understand my wording, but in no way do I think BM draws quadruple coverage...:rolleyes:

What I said about Henderson is not an "analogy", its a comparison....and a legit comparison since your reasoning for VJ being a better receiver is because he has a better YPC.

Henderson is on pace to catch half the passes of VJ for the same amount of yards...OMG STATS DO TELL THE WHOLE STORY ABOUT WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER.


AGAIN.... 4-4 > 3-5 :lol:

[BoltsOwnU]

First off...you are making up stats. BM has receptions over 20 yards. He AVERAGED 25.8 ypc vs NO and has had 4 other games with catches over 20 ypc. Now the 20 catch effort in week 2 (after missing a week) does hurt the ypc, but it also demonstrates his ability to be dominant. VJ takes advantage of LT and AG's leftovers and gets to face 2nd rate CBs and Safeties while BM gets matched up w/ the best defender the opponent has to offer PLUS help.

VJ looked GREAT dropping that easy TD vs NO by the way...but at least it didn't cost you a win or anything. Oh...wait... Please try harder next time. Thanx for playing.

The stats are from NFL.com. Look them up. Otherwise, engage in pure fantasy. The fact that you think VJ isn't a first option only makes his stats that much more superior to BM. That's right BM fans, ZERO plays for 20+ yards. Nice.:coffee:

[MOtorboat]

The stats are from NFL.com. Look them up. Otherwise, engage in pure fantasy. The fact that you think VJ isn't a first option only makes his stats that much more superior to BM. That's right BM fans, ZERO plays for 20+ yards. Nice.:coffee:

I don't know WTF you're looking at.

Game Logs:

WK Date Opp Result G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2 09/14 SD W 39-38 1 1 18 166 9.2 34 1 -- -- -- -- -- 1 0
3 09/21 NO W 34-32 1 1 6 155 25.8 35T 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4 09/28 @ KC L 19-33 1 1 7 77 11.0 21 1 1 -11 -11.0 -11 0 1 1
5 10/05 TB W 16-13 1 1 3 25 8.3 13 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
6 10/12 JAC L 17-24 1 1 9 98 10.9 21 0 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1
7 10/20 @ NE L 7-41 1 1 6 77 12.8 20 0 1 7 7.0 7 0 -- --
8 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
9 11/02 MIA L 17-26 1 1 2 27 13.5 14 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
TOTAL 7 7 51 625 12.3 35 3 2 -4 -2.0 7 0 3 2

Long,
Week 1, 34
Week 2, 35
Week 3, 21
Week 5, 21
Week 6, 20

So, again, WTF are you talking about?

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Beat me to it Mizzou. Thanx

[claymore]

I don't know WTF you're looking at.

Game Logs:

WK Date Opp Result G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2 09/14 SD W 39-38 1 1 18 166 9.2 34 1 -- -- -- -- -- 1 0
3 09/21 NO W 34-32 1 1 6 155 25.8 35T 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4 09/28 @ KC L 19-33 1 1 7 77 11.0 21 1 1 -11 -11.0 -11 0 1 1
5 10/05 TB W 16-13 1 1 3 25 8.3 13 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
6 10/12 JAC L 17-24 1 1 9 98 10.9 21 0 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1
7 10/20 @ NE L 7-41 1 1 6 77 12.8 20 0 1 7 7.0 7 0 -- --
8 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
9 11/02 MIA L 17-26 1 1 2 27 13.5 14 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
TOTAL 7 7 51 625 12.3 35 3 2 -4 -2.0 7 0 3 2

Long,
Week 1, 34
Week 2, 35
Week 3, 21
Week 5, 21
Week 6, 20

So, again, WTF are you talking about?

He is a chargers fan MB so you get to bring up the 80 yard TD pass that was called back on a BS call. And then say we would have one if it wasnt for the refs.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I don't know WTF you're looking at.

Game Logs:

WK Date Opp Result G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2 09/14 SD W 39-38 1 1 18 166 9.2 34 1 -- -- -- -- -- 1 0
3 09/21 NO W 34-32 1 1 6 155 25.8 35T 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4 09/28 @ KC L 19-33 1 1 7 77 11.0 21 1 1 -11 -11.0 -11 0 1 1
5 10/05 TB W 16-13 1 1 3 25 8.3 13 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
6 10/12 JAC L 17-24 1 1 9 98 10.9 21 0 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1
7 10/20 @ NE L 7-41 1 1 6 77 12.8 20 0 1 7 7.0 7 0 -- --
8 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
9 11/02 MIA L 17-26 1 1 2 27 13.5 14 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
TOTAL 7 7 51 625 12.3 35 3 2 -4 -2.0 7 0 3 2

Long,
Week 1, 34
Week 2, 35
Week 3, 21
Week 5, 21
Week 6, 20

So, again, WTF are you talking about?

And those are just his long catches each game.

Take away BM's 35 yard TD catch vs NO and ya still have an AVERAGE ypc of 24. Maybe VJ just can't get open short cuz he has no skills. Personally, I prefer a WR who is more well rounded and who has the nads to go across the middle. VJ sounded out sounds a lot like "vag".

[MOtorboat]

He is a chargers fan MB so you get to bring up the 80 yard TD pass that was called back on a BS call. And then say we would have one if it wasnt for the refs.

He's been railing on Marshall not having any receptions over 20 yards when he has a 35-yard touchdown reception?!?!?

WTF?

What a moron.

[claymore]

He's been railing on Marshall not having any receptions over 20 yards when he has a 35-yard touchdown reception?!?!?

WTF?

What a moron.

He is just venting.

[MOtorboat]

He is just venting.

I can see the steam coming out of his vag as we speak.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I can see the steam coming out of his vag as we speak.

Damit Mizzou, Now I'm turned on.

[BoltsOwnU]

Interesting, when I ran the statistical comparison engine on NFL.com for all three receivers, it came up with 0 for 20+ yarders for BM, however, on the long form stat sheet, it does show 8, same as VJ. So yes, that one stat I harped on was incorrect.

Many apologies, BM has exactly as many 20+yd receptions as VJ, just not VJ's 4 40+ yarders, or much higher stats in other relevant areas.:D

Excellent work sleuths! I think you might have just made BM seem even more ridonkulous!:beer:

[MOtorboat]

Interesting, when I ran the statistical comparison engine on NFL.com for all three receivers, it came up with 0 for 20+ yarders for BM, however, on the long form stat sheet, it does show 8, same as VJ. So yes, that one stat I harped on was incorrect.

Many apologies, BM has exactly as many 20+yd receptions as VJ, just not VJ's 4 40+ yarders, or much higher stats in other relevant areas.:D

Excellent work sleuths! I think you might have just made BM seem even more ridonkulous!:beer:

Your first-down-percentage stat is also very misleading, btw...because Marshall has more catches for first downs than Vincent Jackson has catches, but I suppose that's just semantics.

[BoltsOwnU]

Your first-down-percentage stat is also very misleading, btw...because Marshall has more catches for first downs than Vincent Jackson has catches, but I suppose that's just semantics.

Mmm, depends. So BM catches the dink and dunk 3 yard balls??? We have LT, Sproles, and Gates for that sort of lifting. In terms of being able to stretch the field and make plays (you know, what WR's really do) I'll take the YPC. It's especially sad that BM has but 90 odd yards to show for 20 more receptions. But again, the dink and dunk, dink and dunk. . .:rolleyes:

[MOtorboat]

Mmm, depends. So BM catches the dink and dunk 3 yard balls??? We have LT, Sproles, and Gates for that sort of lifting. In terms of being able to stretch the field and make plays (you know, what WR's really do) I'll take the YPC. It's especially sad that BM has but 90 odd yards to show for 20 more receptions. But again, the dink and dunk, dink and dunk. . .:rolleyes:

4-4
3-5

Denver 1
San Diego 0

Who's is working better?

Any questions?

[slim]

I wonder if vaj has ever seen a double team?

[BoltsOwnU]

4-4
3-5

Denver 1
San Diego 0

Who's is working better?

Any questions?

LOL this was the exact argument Donkfans all claimed was irrelevant when arguing Cutler was better than Rivers last year. So which is it hypocrite? I'm using Donk logic (you know, whining that team records are irrelevant to individual performances) in this thread and you fall back on that? Pathetic.:coffee:

[MOtorboat]

I wonder if vaj has ever seen a double team?

Like a Philip River-Shawn Merriman sandwich, or on the football field?

[BoltsOwnU]

I wonder if vaj has ever seen a double team?

BM got OWNED in SINGLE coverage by Miami. I also liked watching him pout, whine, and take plays off. Remember, this comparison is only occassioned by GEM's absurd suggestion that I'd rather have him in Bolts than either VJ or Chambers when most certainly, I would not, and for many good reasons.:coffee:

[slim]

BM got OWNED in SINGLE coverage by Miami. I also liked watching him pout, whine, and take plays off. Remember, this comparison is only occassioned by GEM's absurd suggestion that I'd rather have him in Bolts than either VJ or Chambers when most certainly, I would not, and for many good reasons.:coffee:

I'll take that as a no.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

BM got OWNED in SINGLE coverage by Miami. I also liked watching him pout, whine, and take plays off. Remember, this comparison is only occassioned by GEM's absurd suggestion that I'd rather have him in Bolts than either VJ or Chambers when most certainly, I would not, and for many good reasons.:coffee:

And you still have yet to name one.

[BoltsOwnU]

And you still have yet to name one.

Take off the homer-glasses, Homer.

[Gamechanger]

this is good stuff, I still LAWL

[BoltsOwnU]

this is good stuff, I still LAWL

You'll get yours later this month. :D

[Gamechanger]

You'll get yours later this month. :D

hmmm...we'll see.....i'm worried about a certain QB named Billy Volek more :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

till then i LAWL

[Medford Bronco]

Take off the homer-glasses, Homer.

Nah this is Homer :lol:

http://www.eteamz.com/lawndaleyouthcardinals/images/HomerSimpson.jpg ;)

[sacmar]

Whatever we are watching marshall and the broncos do....they are doing it in first place....funny to hear a team who we are ahead of and also beat trying to razz us about our team. We can barely hear your crying from way up here, maybe you should be talking to the chiefs and raiders who are more on your level. This team is so called "horrible" has problems etc.....but we beat you, so if we suck and are in first (which i would almost agree with as of late) that must mean that you guys.....

[BoltsOwnU]

Nah this is Homer :lol:

http://www.eteamz.com/lawndaleyouthcardinals/images/HomerSimpson.jpg ;)


DOH!:beer:

[Northman]

I dont know Bolt, looks like Brandon is a winner tonight. lmao

[BoltsOwnU]

I dont know Bolt, looks like Brandon is a winner tonight. lmao

Sure, with four extra quarters on the year, he's almost there. . .Let's talk Monday.:rolleyes:

[dogfish]

Don't get me wrong, we have problems in SD, like when a DC gets fired and all of our players man up and claim responsibility for their own poor play that contributed to the firing. Er, oh wait, that's accountablity, heart, AND character. Somethng foreign to the Donks.



really big of them-- i'm sure ted appreciates it! yea, those guys are real winners. . .

:lol:





BM got OWNED in SINGLE coverage by Miami. I also liked watching him pout, whine, and take plays off. Remember, this comparison is only occassioned by GEM's absurd suggestion that I'd rather have him in Bolts than either VJ or Chambers when most certainly, I would not, and for many good reasons.:coffee:

chief among them being that san diego fans aren't that concerned about winning-- it is, afer all, a foreign experience to them. . . they're totally happy being the best team to not make the playoffs, as long as they send more guys to the pro bowl than denver. . . right about now they're already slipping back into acceptance of their traditional losing ways like a comfortable pair of old jeans. . .

BOU, if you honestly think vincent jackson is better than marshall (which i know you don't), i dare ya to start a poll on the forum of any other team in the league and ask 'em which player they'd rather have on their squad. . . .

alternately, you can ask your all-pro corner what he thinks of marshall, if the poor guy hasn't gotten hypnotherapy to remove all memory of the utterly savage beating he took. . . hey, speaking of guys who should keep their mouths shut, how's his prediction of sixteen interceptions going?


:D

[MOtorboat]

You didn't happen to watch Thursday night football, did you?

[CoachChaz]

BM got OWNED in SINGLE coverage by Miami. I also liked watching him pout, whine, and take plays off. Remember, this comparison is only occassioned by GEM's absurd suggestion that I'd rather have him in Bolts than either VJ or Chambers when most certainly, I would not, and for many good reasons.:coffee:

Yeah...I feel the same way about Adrian Petersen. I'd never want him in Denver because he doesnt fit our system. :sarcasm:

Are you insane or stupid? I have a son who fractured his skull and he hasnt said anything this ridiculous since then.

[Northman]

Sure, with four extra quarters on the year, he's almost there. . .Let's talk Monday.:rolleyes:

And the Chargers will still be chasing our tails.

[Day1BroncoFan]

I bet us winning Thursday pisses you off huh bou.

[MOtorboat]

Are you insane or stupid?

Can I answer this without getting a "concerning your post" PM?

[CoachChaz]

Can I answer this without getting a "concerning your post" PM?

Post it under my user name. The mods will expect it and you'll be safe.

[topscribe]

LOL

what about this stat?

5-4 > 3-5

Updated.

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[topscribe]

Leave it up to a dolts fan with a losing record, thinking he can come in and
smack anyone on a team with a winning record.

Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. :lol:

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[horsepig]

Wonder if BOU has any thoughts on who he'd rather have as the Sparklers head coach? Norv (can't even take a 14-2 team and win) or the Mastermind?

[SR]

LOL this was the exact argument Donkfans all claimed was irrelevant when arguing Cutler was better than Rivers last year. So which is it hypocrite? I'm using Donk logic (you know, whining that team records are irrelevant to individual performances) in this thread and you fall back on that? Pathetic.:coffee:

I'm pretty sure Rivers hasn't ever passed for 450.

[SR]

Wonder if BOU has any thoughts on who he'd rather have as the Sparklers head coach? Norv (can't even take a 14-2 team and win) or the Mastermind?

I'm not too happy with Shanny as our coach right now, to be honest.

[BoltsOwnU]

Yeah...I feel the same way about Adrian Petersen. I'd never want him in Denver because he doesnt fit our system. :sarcasm:

Are you insane or stupid? I have a son who fractured his skull and he hasnt said anything this ridiculous since then.

Neither. Just not a homer, homer. I'll take better YPC, better playmaking, and a better attitude.


I bet us winning Thursday pisses you off huh bou.

Oh, I never thought Cleveland would get it done. Still, that could easily be your last W for a month at least. It's pretty funny that without a missed pass by KW and a fumble, you'd have lost anyway.


I'm pretty sure Rivers hasn't ever passed for 450.

He hasn't really had to. He's still better ranked and more consistent than Cutler. PLEASE don't try to refute such patently obvious truth.


I'm not too happy with Shanny as our coach right now, to be honest.

I'll give you credit for being fair here. He is making some questionable calls, all smacking aside. But hey, I'd have been the first to send our DC packing so what can ya do?

[MOtorboat]

Neither. Just not a homer, homer. I'll take better YPC, better playmaking, and a better attitude.



Oh, I never thought Cleveland would get it done. Still, that could easily be your last W for a month at least. It's pretty funny that without a missed pass by KW and a fumble, you'd have lost anyway.



He hasn't really had to. He's still better ranked and more consistent than Cutler. PLEASE don't try to refute such patently obvious truth.



I'll give you credit for being fair here. He is making some questionable calls, all smacking aside. But hey, I'd have been the first to send our DC packing so what can ya do?

Got any more fake stats to pull out of your ass?

[Slick]

Not that Coach needs any defending here, but he did have the Sparklers ahead of Denver in this weeks power rankings, even as the records stand. Homers don't do that.

[MOtorboat]

Yeah...I can see how San Diego's receivers are better:


Player Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
B. Marshall 57 714 12.5 35 4
Eddie Royal 52 625 12 93 4
B. Stokley 28 296 10.6 32 2
D. Jackson 6 99 16.5 48 1
Glenn Martinez 3 32 10.7 12 0
146 1766 12.1 220 11

San Diego Chargers
Player Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
V. Jackson 30 538 17.9 60 4
C. Chambers 16 273 17.1 48 5
Malcom Floyd 8 161 20.1 49 2
Craig Davis 4 59 14.8 20 0
58 1031 17.8 177 11

:rolleyes:

Insert, "Yeah, but our YPC is better," comment from BOU...

Do I really have to explain to you the differences between the West Coast Offense and the Air-Coryell Offense?

[dogfish]

vincent jackson

4 years
48 games
101 catches
1,673 yards
13 TDs

brandon marshall

3 years
39 games
179 catches
2,348 yards
13 TDs


[/THREAD]

[BoltsOwnU]

Yeah...I can see how San Diego's receivers are better:


Player Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
B. Marshall 57 714 12.5 35 4
Eddie Royal 52 625 12 93 4
B. Stokley 28 296 10.6 32 2
D. Jackson 6 99 16.5 48 1
Glenn Martinez 3 32 10.7 12 0
146 1766 12.1 220 11

San Diego Chargers
Player Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
V. Jackson 30 538 17.9 60 4
C. Chambers 16 273 17.1 48 5
Malcom Floyd 8 161 20.1 49 2
Craig Davis 4 59 14.8 20 0
58 1031 17.8 177 11

:rolleyes:

Insert, "Yeah, but our YPC is better," comment from BOU...

Do I really have to explain to you the differences between the West Coast Offense and the Air-Coryell Offense?

Do you pay attention to the game? Each of your receivers has one more full game than VJ and FOUR more than Chambers. That Chambers spanks all of your receivers in TD's anyway is pretty laughable.

Floyd was active for 2 games, Davis for 3.

A good effort, but you're coming up short and looking silly. (Sorry if that dredges up uncomfortable memories) :D

[Benetto]

Do you pay attention to the game? Each of your receivers has one more full game than VJ and FOUR more than Chambers. That Chambers spanks all of your receivers in TD's anyway is pretty laughable.

Floyd was active for 2 games, Davis for 3.

A good effort, but you're coming up short and looking silly. (Sorry if that dredges up uncomfortable memories) :D

2 game lead, that's all that matters.

[Benetto]

Brandon is such a loser...If only he would have caught the game winning TD....:rolleyes:

[Northman]

Yea, our receivers are so bad that when we beat the Dolts we hit the same rookie receiver twice with the same play to beat them. lmao

[MOtorboat]

Do you pay attention to the game? Each of your receivers has one more full game than VJ and FOUR more than Chambers. That Chambers spanks all of your receivers in TD's anyway is pretty laughable.

Floyd was active for 2 games, Davis for 3.

A good effort, but you're coming up short and looking silly. (Sorry if that dredges up uncomfortable memories) :D

Are you that dense?

Looking silly?

Despite the one-game difference, our group of receiver have more than 700 yards, and almost 100 more receptions. Please tell me you don't think your receivers are going to make that up in one game...

And apparently you missed the whole difference between our offensive schemes...

Furthermore...it just proves how much more pathetic your defense is than ours....

(P.S. And it proves a what moron you are...)

[Benetto]

Are you that dense?

Looking silly?

Despite the one-game difference, our group of receiver have more than 700 yards, and almost 100 more receptions. Please tell me you don't think your receivers are going to make that up in one game...

And apparently you missed the whole difference between our offensive schemes...

Furthermore...it just proves how much more pathetic your defense is than ours....

(P.S. And it proves a what moron you are...)


Them's fightin words Moe, I love it...I also love watching Chargers fans get called out.

[MOtorboat]

Them's fightin words Moe, I love it...I also love watching Chargers fans get called out.

Chargers fans shouldn't talk smack, hell, they probably shouldn't talk football. Few of them even understand it.

[Benetto]

Chargers fans shouldn't talk smack, hell, they probably shouldn't talk football. Few of them even understand it.

Give em some time...It takes some getting used to and all...Ladainians been in the league, what like 5-6 years? That's not enough time for these jokes to understand everything else ESPN doesn't tell em.

[Watchthemiddle]

Yea, our receivers are so bad that when we beat the Dolts we hit the same rookie receiver twice with the same play to beat them. lmao

:laugh::laugh:

[AFGAHNI_BATTLE_DONKEY]

This dolt fan is an idiot. i cant believe he thinks jackson is better then marshall.
Jackson has never had a good season in his career. he's just an average player.

Marshall had over 100 catches last year and over 1300 yards. jackson doesnt have the skill to achieve those numbers.

you say he has no play making skills. What do you call all of his YAC he gets. Marshall is the hardest WR to tackle after the catch. You say all he does is dink and dunk, first of all that has to do with the play calling but Marshall is 6'5 and has proven he can go deep and beat 1 on 1 coverage.


this idiot dolt fan thinks YPC is all that matters.

then why dont you go sign ashley lelie or something. he led the league in YPC a few years ago with us.
He's such a greatttt WR isnt he.

Marshall will probably go to the pro bowl this year.
Jackson aint going no where except home to watch Marshall on TV in the playoffs and the pro bowl.

[jrelway]

Nobody's fat here lil fellah, but hey all are welcome on our bandwagon. Stop by and grab a beer from my pal in the hat. . .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/DSC00700.jpg

Grab yourself one of these,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/General/DSC00444.jpg

and move out of your parents' basement.:D

And yeah, this thread was a bit trollish but it's a bye week and I'm bored. GEM, I'd take either of our receivers over BM, epsecially if he brought that attitude. Be real please.

worry about your own team you scrub.

[MOtorboat]

Do you pay attention to the game? Each of your receivers has one more full game than VJ and FOUR more than Chambers. That Chambers spanks all of your receivers in TD's anyway is pretty laughable.

Floyd was active for 2 games, Davis for 3.

A good effort, but you're coming up short and looking silly. (Sorry if that dredges up uncomfortable memories) :D

I think we should do that comparison again...


Broncos Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
B Marshall 57 714 12.5 35 4
Eddie Royal 52 625 12 93 4
B. Stokley 28 296 10.6 32 2
D. Jackson 6 99 16.5 48 1
Glenn Martinez 3 32 10.7 12 0
146 1766 12.1 93 11

Chargers Rec Yds Y/R Long TD
V. Jackson 35 621 17.7 60 4
C. Chambers 16 273 17.1 48 5
Malcom Floyd 12 237 19.8 49 3
Craig Davis 4 59 14.8 20 0
67 1190 69.4 60 12

[Poet]

Vincent Jackson does not beat out Brandon Marshall. Marshall has the larger skill sets, and more production.

Chris Chambers was touted in Miami as a "Terrell Owens type wideout." He is an underachiever, and always will be an underachiever.

Eddie Royal is a rookie and is blowing people out of the water. A lot of that has to do with him speed, and his hunger when he is on the field. You can tell that Royal is very determined to prove that he was a good draft pick.

However, as much as Royal has to do with his own success, Brandon Marshall has made an impact on Royal's production as well. Marshall draws double teams, and some fans whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for have said he has drawn triple coverage. That is something that players like Randy Moss, T.O. Harrison, Chad Johnson and Steve Smith have done consistently throughout their career.

Another thing to note is that four of of those five wideouts are probably going to the hall........

VJ and Chambers are a fine WR duo. I do not think that anyone is going to assert otherwise. However, to say that either one of them is better than Marshall, or to even imply it is foolish.

[SR]

VJ and Chambers are a fine WR duo. I do not think that anyone is going to assert otherwise. However, to say that either one of them is better than Marshall, or to even imply it is foolish.

Coming from a Begals fan BOU...

[CoachChaz]

I'm probably the last fan here to be called a homer and standing back looking at it...I just dont see how Jackson or Chambers ever come into the same conversation as Marshall. Not in jersey sales, talent, skills, numbers...anything.

Jackson and Chambers each have their value, but to equate that to Marshall? Insanity.

[SR]

Agreed. Marshall is a stud and will be a stud as long as he's in the league. Chambers had a couple good years in Miami, but that's about it. VJ hasn't really done shit. He's got talent, but what player in the NFL doesn't? (Rhetorical question)

[BroncoJoe]

I'd take Eddie Royal over either Jackson or Chambers, let alone Marshall.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Agreed. VJ has his place...and in Denver it would be on the bench.

[CoachChaz]

I'd take Eddie Royal over either Jackson or Chambers, let alone Marshall.

The way he's playing I'd be inclined to agree. He looks like a 4 year vet out there. As long as the sophomore slump doesnt hit, he'll prove his value to be more than the SD duo.

[SR]

That's the truth. There is no way that dude would or could start ahead of Marshall OR Royal. Hell, he couldn't even land a starting spot if Stokely was starting opposite Marshall.

[BroncoJoe]

The way he's playing I'd be inclined to agree. He looks like a 4 year vet out there. As long as the sophomore slump doesnt hit, he'll prove his value to be more than the SD duo.

I think the kid is the real deal.

[CoachChaz]

I think the kid is the real deal.

I was on board with the small crew that wasnt happy with the pick, but I stand corrected. Actually just got me a Royal jersey on eBay for $30. A year from now, they'll be alot more.

[SR]

They won't be. I just bought an "authentic" Marshall jersey on Ebay for $45. I laughed when I got the package because the shipper's "location" on Ebay was Northridge, CA, but the box came from Seoul, South Korea.

I'm going to have to pick up a Royal jersey too before long.

[Midnight Blue]

That's the truth. There is no way that dude would or could start ahead of Marshall OR Royal. Hell, he couldn't even land a starting spot if Stokely was starting opposite Marshall.

Even in fantasy football, no one would trade Brandon Marshall for either VJ or Chambers. In fact, some ff owners would turn down a trade offer of both of them for him.

[BoltsOwnU]

Coming from a Begals fan BOU...

Kids, this mess started when GEM suggested it was ludicrous to think I wouldn't "kill" to have BM wearing Bolts. I've never said VJ or CC was "better". However, to say that BM has had such a staggeringly great season by comparison is laughable. Throw in his crappy attitude and frankly, many many many coaches and FO's would take a pass on BM by comparison.

Statisitically speaking, VJ is right there this season. Sorry if 20 more 2-3 yard receptions don't get me all excited. I'll take the 40+ yarders, more td's, better ypc, and greater 1st down percentages along with a good work ethic, and team-first attitude. He also blocks better.:coffee:

However, just to show you that I will give credit to the hated donkeys when it's due, I'll tell you that I too think Eddie Royal is the real deal. I like everything about him so far and congratulate you on a great pick, great find, and unfortunately, a great wide-out.:beer:

[MOtorboat]

Statisitically speaking, VJ is right there this season. Sorry if 20 more 2-3 yard receptions don't get me all excited. I'll take the 40+ yarders, more td's, better ypc, and greater 1st down percentages along with a good work ethic, and team-first attitude. He also blocks better.:coffee:

You are dense.

Same number of touchdowns, so keep ignoring the stats.

Percentage be damned. Marshall still has MORE catches for FIRST DOWNS than Vincent Jackson has CATCHES. Period. So that's a dumb comparison.

:woot: YPC :woot: You really don't understand the differences between the two systems, and, as has been well documented...you can't even get the stats right..

[SR]

You are dense.

Same number of touchdowns, so keep ignoring the stats.

Percentage be damned. Marshall still has MORE catches for FIRST DOWNS than Vincent Jackson has CATCHES. Period. So that's a dumb comparison.

:woot: YPC :woot: You really don't understand the differences between the two systems, and, as has been well documented...you can't even get the stats right..

Enough said.

[dogfish]

Kids, this mess started when GEM suggested it was ludicrous to think I wouldn't "kill" to have BM wearing Bolts. I've never said VJ or CC was "better". However, to say that BM has had such a staggeringly great season by comparison is laughable. Throw in his crappy attitude and frankly, many many many coaches and FO's would take a pass on BM by comparison.

if "many many many" = none, then i agree with you. . . . :D

if the supposed "consummate team" took on moss and all his baggage, ain't nobody passin' on an emerging young talent like marshall. . .



Statisitically speaking, VJ is right there this season.

he's a year ahead of marshall in terms of develpment, yet marshall's career stats are already well beyond jackson's. . . and marshall goes up against #1 corners almost all of the time, unlike jackson. . . tell me when VJ has ever DDOMINATED a top corner the way marshall did to cromartie? jackson's a one-trick pony-- he's only shown the ability to get open on fly routes and deep crossing patterns. . . four years into his career, and he has yet to show any ability to get consistent seperation on any of the underneath routes, unlike marshall, who can successfully run every route on the tree. . . so yea, his YPC is going to be higher, because they can't go to him on third down when you need someone to beat press coverage and get open quick for the first. . .

jackson is a complimentary player that needs someone else to do the dirty work-- marshall is a complete receiver. . . immaturity aside, that is why 32 GMs and 32 head coaches in the league would take marshall over jackson. . .

it's okay to let this one go, ya know. . . :D



He also blocks better.:coffee:

http://www.broncoscountry.com/resources/citizen_uploads/photos/56353/photo21444.gif

sure he does-- keep telling yourself that. . . . ;)




However, just to show you that I will give credit to the hated donkeys when it's due, I'll tell you that I too think Eddie Royal is the real deal. I like everything about him so far and congratulate you on a great pick, great find, and unfortunately, a great wide-out.:beer:

bravo, well done!

[SR]

http://www.broncoscountry.com/resources/citizen_uploads/photos/56353/photo21444.gif

sure he does-- keep telling yourself that. . . . ;)







Right click, save as. I seriously watched that about 10 times. AWESOME. That was a sad game though.

[broncobryce]

You really think you are going to convince us that VJ is better? While you're at it, go back to the sparklers board and tell your bandwagon friends that Cutler is better than rivers. Good luck.

[SR]

LOL. Cutler is head and shoulders better than Rivers.

[broncobryce]

LOL. Cutler is head and shoulders better than Rivers.

Well, yeah, everyone knows that. Even sparkler fan. But they will never admit it. :lol:

[Poet]

LOL. Cutler is head and shoulders better than Rivers.

That I disagree with. Rivers is a house this season, and I am starting to think that old boy may not be a LT live off anymore.

I would rank Cutler ahead of Rivers, a little bit off of pure talent, and a little bit off of my own personal interpretations, but head and shoulders is a bit much IMO.

[eessydo]

Nobody's fat here lil fellah, but hey all are welcome on our bandwagon. Stop by and grab a beer from my pal in the hat. . .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/DSC00700.jpg

Grab yourself one of these,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/General/DSC00444.jpg

and move out of your parents' basement.:D

And yeah, this thread was a bit trollish but it's a bye week and I'm bored. GEM, I'd take either of our receivers over BM, epsecially if he brought that attitude. Be real please.

This was hilarious, two big tough guys tailgating out of a VW Bug. There is a word for that for everyone that lives outside california. Those two girls must be the ones you chat with on the phone each night about your new BF that drives the chic ride.

You may also want to spend a little time working on the lower half of your body, you look a little top heavy with those chicken legs and I want to make sure that I do everything i can to keep your VW princess looking your way.

[CoachChaz]

This was hilarious, two big tough guys tailgating out of a VW Bug. There is a word for that for everyone that lives outside california. Those two girls must be the ones you chat with on the phone each night about your new BF that drives the chic ride.



Let's not get carried away and feed his ego. Not my definition of big and I highly doubt the toughness part.

[SR]

LMAO @ his bird legs tho.

[Poet]

When your sunglasses are as large as your woman's...............




























































































































































































































It makes you say stupid crap like VJ is better than Brandon Marshall.:coffee:

[BoltsOwnU]

Indeed, the chicken legs have just always been that way, relatively small wrists for my size too at 6'3 220. However, I'll not be taking any advice (or criticism) from internet clowns hiding behind their keyboards. Just put up or shut up :D.

I don't even know who's car that is frankly, there are about 15 in a row as part of one big tailgate. Not that it really matters, listening to you guys play elitest is about the funniest thing I've seen yet. I'm just going to assume that's because you can't stick to football to try to dismantle the truth of what I'm sayin.

Right after "Cutler is head and shoulders above Rivers" which is about the stupidest thing I've seen yet come out of "Seeing Red" I realized you guys were beyond help.:shocked:

[CoachChaz]

Indeed, the chicken legs have just always been that way, relatively small wrists for my size too at 6'3 220. However, I'll not be taking any advice (or criticism) from internet clowns hiding behind their keyboards. Just put up or shut up :D.


What a bytch, cop out statement. Look me up when you're in Texas, poser.

[Day1BroncoFan]

internet clown hiding behind my keyboard.


Do you always talk about yourself this way?

[BoltsOwnU]

What a bytch, cop out statement. Look me up when you're in Texas, poser.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/Internettoughkid.jpg

Lighten up Francis. No need to get all 5'2 of you all worked up in a lather. People take this shit wayyyyy too seriously. By the way, how is it a cop out on my part? I'm not the one talking shit anonymously, "bytch".

How about getting back to football people? Gem get's credit for showing more balance than I'd EVER have expected. . . .

[Poet]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/Internettoughkid.jpg

Lighten up Francis. No need to get all 5'2 of you all worked up in a lather. People take this shit wayyyyy too seriously. By the way, how is it a cop out on my part? I'm not the one talking shit anonymously, "bytch".

How about getting back to football people? Gem get's credit for showing more balance than I'd EVER have expected. . . .

We can go back to football!

Your opinions are very very silly and cannot be backed up by any real statistical or intelligent measure.

You are a homer.

;)

[CoachChaz]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/Internettoughkid.jpg

Lighten up Francis. No need to get all 5'2 of you all worked up in a lather. People take this shit wayyyyy too seriously. By the way, how is it a cop out on my part? I'm not the one talking shit anonymously, "bytch".

How about getting back to football people? Gem get's credit for showing more balance than I'd EVER have expected. . . .

Why be a poser and start listing your height and weight like you're posturing up for some wrestling match? You get called out because you look like a fake in your picture with female legs and womens sunglasses while posing with your sisters and then you start your posturing. That's called a cop out.

[dogfish]

eesh, this is taking a turn for the worse. . .


let's get back on track-- chargers suck! :D

[eessydo]

Indeed, the chicken legs have just always been that way, relatively small wrists for my size too at 6'3 220. However, I'll not be taking any advice (or criticism) from internet clowns hiding behind their keyboards. Just put up or shut up :D.

We put up in game one this season, we'll shut you up after game two.

Out of curiousity, where were you talking smack during the Ryan Leaf years? Call me when your team gets a ring. Last i checked your team is the only one in our division to never win the championship.

[BoltsOwnU]

We put up in game one this season, we'll shut you up after game two.

Out of curiousity, where were you talking smack during the Ryan Leaf years? Call me when your team gets a ring. Last i checked your team is the only one in our division to never win the championship.

Time will tell on game two. Maybe you'll get lucky and draw Hochuli's crew again to give you what your team couldn't earn on it's own.:D

Talking smack during the Leaf years would be about as smart as Denver fans talking smack now, er, nevermind.:shocked:

At least we are now back to football.:coffee:

[BroncoJoe]

Maybe you'll get lucky and draw Hochuli's crew again


Are you kidding? He'd be killed in that city.

[BoltsOwnU]

Are you kidding? He'd be killed in that city.

I think for the most part all that has cooled. Everyone's team gets boned now and again by a bad call, it's part of the game. Rarely is it quite so apparently bad, and impactful.

So be it, I use it as a convenient smack-cruth, but hell, it's part of the game. You deal with it and move on.:beer:

[BroncoJoe]

I think for the most part all that has cooled. Everyone's team gets boned now and again by a bad call, it's part of the game. Rarely is it quite so apparently bad, and impactful.

So be it, I use it as a convenient smack-cruth, but hell, it's part of the game. You deal with it and move on.:beer:

I can understand how he could have made that call - behind Cutler, Cutler's arm cocked to throw and the motion moving forward.

Crappy call, but I'll take it. :cool:

[BoltsOwnU]

Crappy call, but I'll take it. :cool:

If the roles were reversed, I would too. Don't let anybody claim otherwise.

[Medford Bronco]

Are you kidding? He'd be killed in that city.

lol can we see it :lol:

[SR]

What a bytch, cop out statement. Look me up when you're in Texas, poser.

I'll echo that.

[Midnight Blue]

Kids, this mess started when GEM suggested it was ludicrous to think I wouldn't "kill" to have BM wearing Bolts. I've never said VJ or CC was "better". However, to say that BM has had such a staggeringly great season by comparison is laughable. Throw in his crappy attitude and frankly, many many many coaches and FO's would take a pass on BM by comparison.

Statisitically speaking, VJ is right there this season. Sorry if 20 more 2-3 yard receptions don't get me all excited. I'll take the 40+ yarders, more td's, better ypc, and greater 1st down percentages along with a good work ethic, and team-first attitude. He also blocks better.:coffee:

However, just to show you that I will give credit to the hated donkeys when it's due, I'll tell you that I too think Eddie Royal is the real deal. I like everything about him so far and congratulate you on a great pick, great find, and unfortunately, a great wide-out.:beer:

If the Broncos were ever to release Marshall, he wouldn't last 24 hours on the waiver wire, despite your (most likely pulled-out-of-your butt) claim that "many, many, many coaches and FO's would take a pass" on him.

[BoltsOwnU]

I'll echo that.

Internet tough guys are so cute.:coffee:

[BoltsOwnU]

If the Broncos were ever to release Marshall, he wouldn't last 24 hours on the waiver wire, despite your (most likely pulled-out-of-your butt) claim that "many, many, many coaches and FO's would take a pass" on him.

Oh no doubt. Don't get me wrong, but plenty wouldn't even consider it too. He's the new T.O., only without the career to back it up (yet, to be fair).

[GEM]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/Rule12b/Internettoughkid.jpg

Lighten up Francis. No need to get all 5'2 of you all worked up in a lather. People take this shit wayyyyy too seriously. By the way, how is it a cop out on my part? I'm not the one talking shit anonymously, "bytch".

How about getting back to football people? Gem get's credit for showing more balance than I'd EVER have expected. . . .

Where did I come into this conversation? I've always been balanced. :heh:

[GEM]

Oh no doubt. Don't get me wrong, but plenty wouldn't even consider it too. He's the new T.O., only without the career to back it up (yet, to be fair).

And how long has TO lasted on waiver wires? :confused: Hell, if the Chargers would would claim Michael Bennett just to keep Denver's hands off him, you can guarondamntee that Marshall wouldn't last more than an hour on waivers. Think about what you just said...seriously.

[bengaaaaals1688]

Oh no doubt. Don't get me wrong, but plenty wouldn't even consider it too. He's the new T.O., only without the career to back it up (yet, to be fair).

I can get behind you on Rivers being better than Cutler at this point in time, but you're really reaching right now. Marshall is head and shoulders above any of the Chargers WRs, regardless of what their YPC is, and he would never last on a waiver wire... He'd be gone immediately.

[BoltsOwnU]

I can get behind you on Rivers being better than Cutler at this point in time, but you're really reaching right now. Marshall is head and shoulders above any of the Chargers WRs, regardless of what their YPC is, and he would never last on a waiver wire... He'd be gone immediately.

Whether or not he is better has never really been my point. GEM claimed we'd essentially kill to have him because he is soooooooooooooo superior. I pointed out that this season, he really isn't especially. Certainly not on the level suggested by his pundits here. Add in his big mouth and lousy attitude, and I think I've made my case that "no, I wouldn't choose to have him on the Bolts" and for a variety of legitimate reasons.

[GEM]

Whether or not he is better has never really been my point. GEM claimed we'd essentially kill to have him because he is soooooooooooooo superior. I pointed out that this season, he really isn't especially. Certainly not on the level suggested by his pundits here. Add in his big mouth and lousy attitude, and I think I've made my case that "no, I wouldn't choose to have him on the Bolts" and for a variety of legitimate reasons.

Lousy attitude? :confused: In a game where he had 2 balls thrown his way and we couldn't make headway of any yards on offense, he was upset about not getting the ball. That's not attitude, that's confidence. He knows that if the ball is in his hands he can do something with it. He was trying to make a unity statement after a major thing in history happened. Stupid yes, but his heart was in the right place.

Of course you wouldn't want him, you've always been ok with having scrubs for WR's. You're used to it. :coffee:

Last season before teams really game planned against him look at his numbers. This year it's easy to dismiss him because he always has at least 2 if not 3 guys covering him. None, absolutely NONE of your WR's commands double coverage. LT, yes. WR's no way.

[BoltsOwnU]

:coffee:
Lousy attitude? :confused: In a game where he had 2 balls thrown his way and we couldn't make headway of any yards on offense, he was upset about not getting the ball. That's not attitude, that's confidence. He knows that if the ball is in his hands he can do something with it. He was trying to make a unity statement after a major thing in history happened. Stupid yes, but his heart was in the right place.

Of course you wouldn't want him, you've always been ok with having scrubs for WR's. You're used to it. :coffee:

Last season before teams really game planned against him look at his numbers. This year it's easy to dismiss him because he always has at least 2 if not 3 guys covering him. None, absolutely NONE of your WR's commands double coverage. LT, yes. WR's no way.

No, our TE commands a double and LT demands a shadow.

As far as BM mouthing off, those games showed him consistently unable to separate from SINGLE coverage. Stop acting like they blanket him with the whole secondary. They don't. He get's singled like many other #1's with safety help, just like everyone else.

And, statistically, he's just not that far ahead of our WR's this season and in some ways, is even lagging a bit. Don't get me wrong, he is a good WR, but you make out like he's the second coming of Jerry Rice which he certainly is not. And the attitude? That speaks for itself.

[Midnight Blue]

Oh no doubt. Don't get me wrong, but plenty wouldn't even consider it too. He's the new T.O., only without the career to back it up (yet, to be fair).

Your team would sign him off waivers in a heartbeat. They'd be idiots to pass up a talent like his. They'd take TO too... but he's old; Brandon has a lot of playing years left and still hasn't yet reached his peak.

[underrated29]

BOU- There is not a sinlge DB in the league (including champ) that can cover brandon one on one.

He is never alone in single coverage with a safety over the top. If he is, we exploit it, and brandon owns.

Look again, you will see one man on press, a S 7 yards deep and another nickle/dime/ LB ready to jump into his route.

The main problem for his numbers, is several fold.

1. our offensive play calling hasnt been very good, imo poor.
2. with no run game, its easier for defenses to double up on brandon and eddie. Especially when our TE's are hurt... That leaves Darrel Jackson- whoopie.

Anyteam would kill for BM and he is worth 2 first rd picks for sure. Players on his level are:

Andre johnson,fitz,boldin,plax,ocho,randy,TO- cept he is younger and only starting to mature and reach his potential.

[GEM]

:coffee:

No, our TE commands a double and LT demands a shadow.

As far as BM mouthing off, those games showed him consistently unable to separate from SINGLE coverage. Stop acting like they blanket him with the whole secondary. They don't. He get's singled like many other #1's with safety help, just like everyone else.

And, statistically, he's just not that far ahead of our WR's this season and in some ways, is even lagging a bit. Don't get me wrong, he is a good WR, but you make out like he's the second coming of Jerry Rice which he certainly is not. And the attitude? That speaks for itself.

You have your homer glasses on there buddy. Listen to any of the PROFESSIONALS and they go gaga over the guy. You don't agree because of the team he plays on. :coffee:

[BoltsOwnU]

BOU- There is not a sinlge DB in the league (including champ) that can cover brandon one on one.

He is never alone in single coverage with a safety over the top. If he is, we exploit it, and brandon owns.

Look again, you will see one man on press, a S 7 yards deep and another nickle/dime/ LB ready to jump into his route.

The main problem for his numbers, is several fold.

1. our offensive play calling hasnt been very good, imo poor.
2. with no run game, its easier for defenses to double up on brandon and eddie. Especially when our TE's are hurt... That leaves Darrel Jackson- whoopie.

Anyteam would kill for BM and he is worth 2 first rd picks for sure. Players on his level are:

Andre johnson,fitz,boldin,plax,ocho,randy,TO- cept he is younger and only starting to mature and reach his potential.


There was some good stuff in here, until you got to the "worth two first round picks part" :lol:

[turftoad]

There was some good stuff in here, until you got to the "worth two first round picks part" :lol:

Agreed. However, he's probably worth a top 15 or somewhere in there.

[SR]

I doubt he is worth two first rounders. I wouldn't give up two first rounders for any WR in this league. But, he is worth a top 15 pick for sure, as turftoad said.

[bengaaaaals1688]

BOU- There is not a sinlge DB in the league (including champ) that can cover brandon one on one.

He is never alone in single coverage with a safety over the top. If he is, we exploit it, and brandon owns.

Look again, you will see one man on press, a S 7 yards deep and another nickle/dime/ LB ready to jump into his route.

The main problem for his numbers, is several fold.

1. our offensive play calling hasnt been very good, imo poor.
2. with no run game, its easier for defenses to double up on brandon and eddie. Especially when our TE's are hurt... That leaves Darrel Jackson- whoopie.

Anyteam would kill for BM and he is worth 2 first rd picks for sure. Players on his level are:

Andre johnson,fitz,boldin,plax,ocho,randy,TO- cept he is younger and only starting to mature and reach his potential.

Tell Charles Woodson and the Packers that a player of TO's caliber can't be covered like that. Last I checked, that is EXACTLY what Woodson and the Packers did to TO, and TO is still a better WR than Marshall is at this point.

No WR is worth 2 first round picks, even if the Redskins tried to give up 2 for Chad and the Bengals decided not to take them.

That said... Until Andre Johnson can do it consistently for a full season and then some, he isn't on level (regardless of his potential), and Marshall is better than Plaxico, IMO.

[bengaaaaals1688]

Whether or not he is better has never really been my point. GEM claimed we'd essentially kill to have him because he is soooooooooooooo superior. I pointed out that this season, he really isn't especially. Certainly not on the level suggested by his pundits here. Add in his big mouth and lousy attitude, and I think I've made my case that "no, I wouldn't choose to have him on the Bolts" and for a variety of legitimate reasons.

If you wouldn't want Marshall on your team that's just crazy. Even I would love to have Marshall on the Bengals, and there is nowhere he can fit right now. His mouth isn't as bad as you make it out to be, and his attitude doesn't even compare to a TO.

Fact is, while I can get on board with what some people say, to say you wouldn't want one of the premier WR's in the league (not to mention one of the youngest), is just stone cold nuts.

[Poet]

There was some good stuff in here, until you got to the "worth two first round picks part" :lol:

There is an argument.

Randy Moss was worth what, a 3rd or a 4th?

But Deion Branch was worth a first?

Chad Johnson was worth a guaranteed first rounder, and a third rounder minimum, which could have turned into another first rounder.

The context of the trade is what is most important. No two trades will ever be totally similar, or honestly even moderately similar IMO.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Great drop by Vince that Troy P just INTd. Brilliant play as always from the SD WRs.