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TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 08:28 AM
Q&A: Broncos have no desire to be bad enough to draft Stanford QB Andrew Luck
By Jeff Legwold
The Denver Post
Posted: 05/26/2011 01:00:00 AM MDT

Q: Do you think the Broncos have a goal of drafting Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck?


A: As much as Elway and the Broncos like Luck, they have no desire to be so bad that they're in position to draft him.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18139457

I don't get how people think EFX would want a losing season just draft Andrew Luck. That would be dumb. If we're in a position to draft Luck and Denver wants him so be it. But for the sake of everything holy I don't want to endure another 4-12 season or worse just for the opportunity to draft Luck.

BroncoStud
05-26-2011, 09:10 AM
It's not like John can come out and say "yes, we hope to lose 16 games so we can draft Andrew Luck..." - If ONLY he had come out this year, I am betting John would have done almost anything to draft him.

TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 09:21 AM
It's not like John can come out and say "yes, we hope to lose 16 games so we can draft Andrew Luck..." - If ONLY he had come out this year, I am betting John would have done almost anything to draft him.

I'm not so sure they would have attempted to trade up with Panthers because of all the needs and the fact they would had to mortage the future to get him. However if for some fluke reason beyond comprehension Luck had slid past the Panthers EFX would have had called in the pick almost as quickly as Carolina's had been announced.

It's a year way and anything can happen but if for some reason Denver is in a position to draft Luck they wont hesistate. They will pull the trigger and not think twice about it.

Northman
05-26-2011, 09:31 AM
Had Luck come out Carolina would of taken him so Denver still would have lost out.

robert ethan
05-26-2011, 10:14 AM
It's not like John can come out and say "yes, we hope to lose 16 games so we can draft Andrew Luck..." - If ONLY he had come out this year, I am betting John would have done almost anything to draft him.

They did that last season. Firing McDaniels, promoting Studesville, starting Tebow, were all calculated attempts to tank the latter part of the season. The goal was Harbaugh and Luck. Fortunately it failed for several reasons, mainly the fact that Tebow won a game. But make no mistake, the intent was to lose from about the 3/4 pole of the season. But they even failed in that ignomius ambition and ended up in Purgatory with the #2 overall pick. So now they're ducking saliva from a mouth breather like Miller.

Ravage!!!
05-26-2011, 10:19 AM
They did that last season. Firing McDaniels, promoting Studesville, starting Tebow, were all calculated attempts to tank the latter part of the season. The goal was Harbaugh and Luck. Fortunately it failed for several reasons, mainly the fact that Tebow won a game. But make no mistake, the intent was to lose from about the 3/4 pole of the season. But they even failed in that ignomius ambition and ended up in Purgatory with the #2 overall pick. So now they're ducking saliva from a mouth breather like Miller.

You can't be serious.

Going back to the OP, Tx, I agree. As much as I would LOVE Luck to be on this team, there is no way.. NO WAY.. the team attempts, tries, or wishes to be bad enough to draft him. I WANT Luck, but there is no way I would even DREAM of intentionally being bad enough to draft him.

TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 10:23 AM
You can't be serious.

Going back to the OP, Tx, I agree. As much as I would LOVE Luck to be on this team, there is no way.. NO WAY.. the team attempts, tries, or wishes to be bad enough to draft him. I WANT Luck, but there is no way I would even DREAM of intentionally being bad enough to draft him.

More importantly neither does EFX.

HammeredOut
05-26-2011, 10:24 AM
If we trade Orton, and Start Tebow and Quinn all season, we have a real good shot at Andrew Luck. Im betting that Orton gets traded, and we do start with Tebow, and Quinn, leaving us with about a 3-13 record to finish the season.

Im game for starting Tebow all season to draft Andrew Luck next season. I know Tebow will be about a 45-50% completion rate, 1500-2000 yards in the air, with maybe 300-400 on the ground. This will be a great season for Bronco's betters to lay down a fat goose egg, and get one or 2 back.

I think we can pull out a 2nd or 3rd pick for Orton.

D1g1tal j1m
05-26-2011, 10:29 AM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrew+Luck+Stanford+v+California+kGl3IGGNXEIl.jpg

TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 10:35 AM
Had Luck come out Carolina would of taken him so Denver still would have lost out.

Thanks for being a wet blanket. :lol:

TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 10:39 AM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrew+Luck+Stanford+v+California+kGl3IGGNXEIl.jpg

Shoot with the pile of doe he's going make can afford to fix all that with a little plastic surgery.

I don't care if he's butt ugly as long as he wins. :lol:

RebelRocker
05-26-2011, 10:40 AM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrew+Luck+Stanford+v+California+kGl3IGGNXEIl.jpg

You know how you can avoid that if he's your QB?

WINNING!!!!!!

If the Broncos are thinking the way you are with just keeping Tebow around for "marketing" purposes, then we are in deep trouble!:shocked:

BroncoStud
05-26-2011, 10:44 AM
If we trade Orton, and Start Tebow and Quinn all season, we have a real good shot at Andrew Luck. Im betting that Orton gets traded, and we do start with Tebow, and Quinn, leaving us with about a 3-13 record to finish the season.

Im game for starting Tebow all season to draft Andrew Luck next season. I know Tebow will be about a 45-50% completion rate, 1500-2000 yards in the air, with maybe 300-400 on the ground. This will be a great season for Bronco's betters to lay down a fat goose egg, and get one or 2 back.

I think we can pull out a 2nd or 3rd pick for Orton.

I dunno, those 3 wins Orton gave us sure went a LONG way to keeping Denver away from the #1 draft pick :laugh::laugh:

Oh that's right, we had #2, and that's only because our Head Coach led his team to 1 victory, blowing us out of the water on the "terrible meter"

HammeredOut
05-26-2011, 10:51 AM
I dunno, those 3 wins Orton gave us sure went a LONG way to keeping Denver away from the #1 draft pick :laugh::laugh:

Oh that's right, we had #2, and that's only because our Head Coach led his team to 1 victory, blowing us out of the water on the "terrible meter"

2 of those wins, Orton one game had 19 total yards on the ground from the rushing game, the other 64 yards on the ground. He did win us a few games without a run game. He was 1-1 when Know Show got him a 100 on the ground. The team was held to under a 100 yards on the ground 13 times or so. When we won the superbowl, were averaging 125 on the ground, and our defense only gave up 17 points a game, our defense was ranked 6th or 7th.

Im can't wait to see who the next number 1 receiver will be if Tebow starts. I sorta don't think we will have one. I will put money on this bet to anybody dumb enough to make it. Brandon Lloyd will not be a pro-bowler, and will not have over 1000 yards recieving next season with either Tebow or Quinn starting.

rcsodak
05-26-2011, 10:55 AM
It's not like John can come out and say "yes, we hope to lose 16 games so we can draft Andrew Luck..." - If ONLY he had come out this year, I am betting John would have done almost anything to draft him.
Trading for a player makes sense. Purposely losing? Nada.

T.K.O.
05-26-2011, 11:10 AM
am i in the twilight zone ?
just popped in and read this thread 1st thing...... i feel dumber for doing so:shocked:

Rick
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Im can't wait to see who the next number 1 receiver will be if Tebow starts. I sorta don't think we will have one. I will put money on this bet to anybody dumb enough to make it. Brandon Lloyd will not be a pro-bowler, and will not have over 1000 yards recieving next season with either Tebow or Quinn starting.

If my math is right...

In Tebows 3 ROOKIE starts Loyd has 4-79, 5-111, 5-73.

Averaged out over the course of a season that is 75 catches, 1403 yards, 18.7 average, 11 TDs.

Loyds pace with orton: 78 catches, 1458 yards, 18.7 average, 11 TDs.

Tebow was a rookie... I swear did people think Tebow would step in and throw like Manning in his rookie year? In his first 3 starts? 1 in the black hole, one against a very good SD defense? In a season where it was reported that the backups got very little work in?

Ideally the game will slow down for him and he will complete more passes and spread it around as well when he gets more time in.

GEM
05-26-2011, 12:37 PM
Here we go again...:lol:

LRtagger
05-26-2011, 12:43 PM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.


http://www.uu.edu/news/photos/peytonmanning275.jpg

Ravage!!!
05-26-2011, 12:44 PM
Guys... you can't take three games and "average it out" over the coarse of 16 games.

Thats like going to a casino, and hitting "21" on your third hand dealt. Then, taking that total and averaging it out over the 3 day weekend.

TXBRONC
05-26-2011, 12:45 PM
If we trade Orton, and Start Tebow and Quinn all season, we have a real good shot at Andrew Luck. Im betting that Orton gets traded, and we do start with Tebow, and Quinn, leaving us with about a 3-13 record to finish the season.

Im game for starting Tebow all season to draft Andrew Luck next season. I know Tebow will be about a 45-50% completion rate, 1500-2000 yards in the air, with maybe 300-400 on the ground. This will be a great season for Bronco's betters to lay down a fat goose egg, and get one or 2 back.

I think we can pull out a 2nd or 3rd pick for Orton.

You need to get back on topic. This thread is not about Tebow or Orton.

Ravage!!!
05-26-2011, 12:45 PM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.



which means absolutely jack-squat

robert ethan
05-26-2011, 12:49 PM
Luck is a great college talent who has all the tools to be a top flight pro but on the marketing side of things he is one of the goofiest/ugliest looking QB's I have ever seen. He will be a marketing nightmare if you attempt to photograph him without his helmet on.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrew+Luck+Stanford+v+California+kGl3IGGNXEIl.jpg

Alfred E. Luck :lol:

topscribe
05-26-2011, 04:39 PM
If we trade Orton, and Start Tebow and Quinn all season, we have a real good shot at Andrew Luck. Im betting that Orton gets traded, and we do start with Tebow, and Quinn, leaving us with about a 3-13 record to finish the season.

Im game for starting Tebow all season to draft Andrew Luck next season. I know Tebow will be about a 45-50% completion rate, 1500-2000 yards in the air, with maybe 300-400 on the ground. This will be a great season for Bronco's betters to lay down a fat goose egg, and get one or 2 back.

I think we can pull out a 2nd or 3rd pick for Orton.

Great satire, HO.

It will be interesting to see how many pick up on it . . .



You need to get back on topic. This thread is not about Tebow or Orton.

Well . . . not a good start . . .

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topscribe
05-26-2011, 04:42 PM
http://www.uu.edu/news/photos/peytonmanning275.jpg

Wow, that guy looks like Archie!

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GEM
05-26-2011, 04:45 PM
How come I always get an image like this when Orton is slighted and Toppers comes in to save him?

http://http://mandatemedia.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/07/superhero.gif

Top, I hope you know I'm kidding. :D

topscribe
05-26-2011, 04:47 PM
How come I always get an image like this when Orton is slighted and Toppers comes in to save him?

http://http://mandatemedia.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/07/superhero.gif

Top, I hope you know I'm kidding. :D

Better be.

There ain't no image . . . :coffee:

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GEM
05-26-2011, 04:48 PM
How come I always get an image like this when Orton is slighted and Toppers comes in to save him?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/nicole0702/cc.jpg


Top, I hope you know I'm kidding.

topscribe
05-26-2011, 04:49 PM
How come I always get an image like this when Orton is slighted and Toppers comes in to save him?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/nicole0702/cc.jpg


Top, I hope you know I'm kidding.

I was expecting a picture of Orton, not one of me . . .

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Npba900
05-26-2011, 05:58 PM
You can't be serious.

Going back to the OP, Tx, I agree. As much as I would LOVE Luck to be on this team, there is no way.. NO WAY.. the team attempts, tries, or wishes to be bad enough to draft him. I WANT Luck, but there is no way I would even DREAM of intentionally being bad enough to draft him.

I don't think the Broncos are tanking the season if they have an open competition between Orton, Tebow, and Quinn and let the chips fall where they may. Point is, EFX should not just hand the starting job to Tebow just because McDaniel's drafted Tebow #1. Tebow needs to prove in training camp and pre-season that he can actually beat out either Orton or Quinn.

Just because Tebow went won one game and played decently in 3 games doesn't indicate had Quinn started he would not have put up comparable stats and won at least one or two games.

It could very well be if there is an open competition between Orton, Quinn, and Tebow with a shorten training camp and preseason, Orton could end up the starter with Quinn 2nd and Tebow 3rd.

Remember, Orton and Quinn are the polished mechanically sound and pocket presence QB, than where Tebow is now in his career. Elway unless he's lying has already said Tebow is "GOOD" Football player....but he must learn how to be an NFL QB that can pass from the pocket! That tells me that Elway believes that Tebow is going to need lose the windup-telegraphic delivery, improve his long ball and intermediate accuracy and prove he can throw from the pocket and throw the ball with confidence and accuracy.

I'm not convinced nor sold that Tebow is the Future-Franchise QB of the Denver Broncos just because McDaniel's said so!!!!!:coffee: