NFL owners granted permanent stay

[Denver Native (Carol)]

This just came down - nothing more on it right now.


The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis has granted NFL owners' request for a permanent stay of a prior ruling halting their lockout.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6557162

Here's more now - same link:


The 8th Circuit originally granted the league a temporary stay on April 29, four days after U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson lifted the lockout. The order means the lockout remains in effect until the NFL's full appeal of Nelson's ruling is heard on June 3.

The court's decision comes on the same day the two sides resumed court-ordered mediation in Minneapolis. It was the fifth day of talks in front of U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, but the first since April 20.

[TXBRONC]

Well that gives the owners more leverage.

[arapaho2]

this from schefter

Owners now have the leverage. This is a complete win for the owners. Players are in trouble, based on judge's words in this ruling

[arapaho2]

wonder what the judge said in his ruling ....you greedy sobs are locked out:confused:

[underrated29]

Good. As long as the leverage is weighted towards one side this will be over sooner than later.

[arapaho2]

Good. As long as the leverage is weighted towards one side this will be over sooner than later.


hopefully the players just tell the shit demorice smith to settle it ....

[TXBRONC]

this from schefter

Owners now have the leverage. This is a complete win for the owners. Players are in trouble, based on judge's words in this ruling

In other word, the playerss might as well kiss any ideas keep the status quo good-bye. :wave:

[arapaho2]

AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Here's the vote: Majority opinion is 2-1 decision to grant the stay and uphold the lockout

[arapaho2]

In other word, the playerss might as well kiss any ideas keep the status quo good-bye. :wave:


well the slaves should just take what they get

[arapaho2]

AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Money phrase: On page 11 of today's ruling, judges wrote, "Our present view is that Judge Nelson’s interpretation is unlikely to prevail.”

[arapaho2]

mortreport (http://twitter.com/#!/mortreport) Chris Mortensen



Court was about leverage; it now swings in owners favor but many owners are nervous & want a deal done. Players now have to get a deal done

[arapaho2]

mortreport (http://twitter.com/#!/mortreport) Chris Mortensen



The 8th Circuit ruling with 2 of 3 judges clearly buying the NFL's interpretation of Norris-LaGuardia Act: http://say.ly/fsDkBa (http://say.ly/fsDkBa)

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Per Alfred and Stink - they stated that the owners won this one, but Doty is still suppose to weigh in on the claim from the players in regards to the tv deals.

This thing MIGHT get settled by 2020 :tsk::tsk:

[arapaho2]

taken from the decision

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In sum, we have serious doubts that the district court had jurisdiction to enjoin
the League’s lockout, and accordingly conclude that the League has made a strong
showing that it is likely to succeed on the merits.
.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

MINNEAPOLIS—The NFL has won another round in the court fight with its players.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday decided that the league's lockout of players should stay in place until a full appeal is heard on whether it is legal. The 2-1 decision mirrored the panel's earlier decision granting a temporary stay—including a lengthy dissent from the same judge.

The appellate court said it believed the NFL has proven it will "likely will suffer some degree of irreparable harm without a stay."

A June 3 hearing is scheduled to hear arguments on the legality of the lockout.


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18071962

[atwater27]

Bwa ha ha! Eat it, slaves!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

NFL Network insider Albert Breer reports that Hall of Fame defensive end Carl Eller, a plaintiff in the Brady & Eller et al v. National Football League et al case, said that players are expecting a proposal from the league Monday night or Tuesday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fda71b/article/appeals-court-grants-nfl-motion-for-stay-pending-appeal

This whole thing is getting ridiculous - regardless how a ruling goes - the other side can appeal. This could go on forever.

[broken12]

personally i hope they get something worked out, i am really interested in the direction the broncos will be going in, plus ima season ticket holder

[WARHORSE]

This just in, the Eighth circuit court of appeals just stated that the Broncos can trade Kyle Orton to the highest bidder, and then the lockout is reinstated.


Nice.:salute:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

NFL general counsel Jeff Pash said he hoped the ruling would move the discussions along.

"You don't resolve things through litigation," he said. "We've been clear on that. And what we need to be doing is focusing all our attention on the process that's going on here in this building, with the assistance of the chief judge and in serious discussions with the players.

"We have an opportunity to resolve this matter and get the game back on the field, and that really should be our exclusive focus -- Not litigation, not stays or injunctions, things like that. That's not going to solve anything. I'm glad that it came out the way that it did. But it's just one step in a process and we need to focus on negotiation. That's the only way we're going to resolve this."

full article - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fda71b/article/appeals-court-grants-nfl-motion-for-stay-pending-appeal?module=HP_headlines

[Poet]

I just want football. That's all. Just...want...football...god..dammit.

[Lonestar]

I do also want football but I want it forever not for a few years before owners tart to bail or let their teams slide because they can't afford them any longer.

Or they determine that they can make more money in the market. And not worry about what everyone thinks.

[Lonestar]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fda71b/article/appeals-court-grants-nfl-motion-for-stay-pending-appeal

This whole thing is getting ridiculous - regardless how a ruling goes - the other side can appeal. This could go on forever.

That is the idea. The owners have to force the players hands in order to get a decent CBA. That will not happen until sept when these morons miss a couple of pay checks. Then an agreement will
Be fast. And it will be a good one for both sides. Right now the players get their Cake and can eat it also. No club imposed workouts nor otas. TC where they get just a few bucks Per day.

[WARHORSE]

Every year the players have gotten a bigger piece.


Time to give back.



DeSmiff is slowly digging his own grave, and so are the players. DeSmiff is little more than an instigator and agitator at this point. He needs to show himself as a true negotiator.


The deal on the table last March was sweetened. In it, these players will be making more and more money each year with benefits.



Settle now while you got the chance people.


Or get force fed later.:salute:

[Juriga72]

What I find funny is that when they signed this deal (Old CBA) the reporters were saying that Gene Upshaw was just a "Owners lackey"

Of course when they voted 30-2 to agree with it in 2006......... I guess that shows just how multi-billionares can't seem to understand a simple business deal..... too bad

"It was a good compromise," said Jim Irsay, owner of low-revenue Indianapolis. "We're happy with it -- 30-2 is a good vote."The agreement concludes weeks of contentious negotiations between the league and the NFL Players' Association. The new extension will add $7.5 million to the 2006 salary cap, pushing it to $102 million, Mortensen reports. Without a CBA extension, the 2006 cap would have been $94.5 million. The 2007 cap will be $109 million.


"We want teams to get additional money to re-sign players, rather than cutting them," Tagliabue said.

Teams had until 11 p.m. ET Wednesday to be cap compliant, a deadline that was pushed back early Wednesday from the original 9 p.m. ET cutoff.

"The union is delighted," NFLPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler said. "The new CBA is a big leap forward for the players and means a fairer system for all. It also means seven more years of labor peace. Fans can now forget about the lawyers and owners and enjoy football."

The deal was put together by nine teams who began on different sides of the revenue-sharing debate, including such high-revenue teams as New England and Dallas.

"We were willing to make some sacrifices to get this thing done," said Dallas owner Jerry Jones, the most vocal opponent of revenue sharing. "The proposal from the union was a mean mother."

[rcsodak]

Business agreements are signed with the future being an unknown, and with certain checkpoints in mind. If the owners were seeing signs that trended down, with no correction in sight, then they did the only plausible action.
The fact that langugage was written into the cba that allowed the owners to bail, is proof enough they had some doubts but were willing to give it a try.

[Lonestar]

Business agreements are signed with the future being an unknown, and with certain checkpoints in mind. If the owners were seeing signs that trended down, with no correction in sight, then they did the only plausible action.
The fact that langugage was written into the cba that allowed the owners to bail, is proof enough they had some doubts but were willing to give it a try.
Not sure why anyone that supports the "workers" does not get that point.

Businessmen have to make hard decisions in order to keep the bait afloat as well As grow their business.

The workers are owed nothing other than to be treated fairly in any of those decisions and anyone that is making $80,000 a years as a ps player and in most other cases vet minimum $450,000 per year having their medical costs covered fro basically 16+ games a year. Well hard to feel sorry for them. IMO.
For those that whine they have a short career, I still do not care as they are for the most part making a million a year. Save some if it like us mere mortals do.

So the owners make money, hey commies that is the whole idea. That is what keeps the nation running.

[rcsodak]

Not sure why anyone that supports the "workers" does not get that point.

Businessmen have to make hard decisions in order to keep the bait afloat as well As grow their business.

The workers are owed nothing other than to be treated fairly in any of those decisions and anyone that is making $80,000 a years as a ps player and in most other cases vet minimum $450,000 per year having their medical costs covered fro basically 16+ games a year. Well hard to feel sorry for them. IMO.
For those that whine they have a short career, I still do not care as they are for the most part making a million a year. Save some if it like us mere mortals do.

So the owners make money, hey commies that is the whole idea. That is what keeps the nation running.

Yuuup