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Denver Native (Carol)
05-01-2011, 09:02 PM
The Cold, Hard Football Facts view draft grades a bit differently than most. You know how most analysts do it: They pretend they watched every college football game of the past three seasons, toss out clichés about various schemes, or which players "set the edge" and have "good motors" and then try guess which will succeed or fail at the next level.

Good luck with that.

The truth is that nobody knows who's going to succeed or fail -- not us, not the draft "experts" on TV and certainly not the GMs making the decisions on draft day.

So here's what we do: We take a very detailed look at each team's statistical deficiencies before the draft. And then we determine which teams did the best job of addressing those needs. Some teams attack these deficiencies quite aggressively. Those teams usually improve the next year. Other teams stick their heads in the statistical sands, apparently trying to wish away the problems that plagued them last season (yes, we're talking about you, Jacksonville). These teams typically suffer the same fate the following year. It's all quite predictable, actually.

We can tell fairly accurately which teams did a good job of addressing their statistical needs in a given draft. As for which players are going to fail or succeed? Well, that's anyone's guess.

Denver

What I liked: The Broncos gave up more points than any team in the NFL last year and capitalized on that in way the Cowboys should have: Aggressively grabbing defenders. It started with No. 2 pick, Von Miller, a pass-rush specialist OLB. It was a perfect needs-based selection: Denver was No. 29 last year on our Defensive Hog Index and dead-last league wide at pressuring the quarterback, forcing a Negative Pass Play on just 6.3 percent of dropbacks -- half the rate of the best pass-rush team in football last year, the Super Bowl champ packers (12.2%). Second-round pick Rahim Moore was the top-rated safety on most boards, and the Broncos landed him with the No. 45 pick. He could start right away.

What I didn't like: Liked it all.

John Elway's first draft has the potential to be a great one that addressed all the team's most glaring needs. Grade: A

full article - on all other teams - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/kerry_byrne/05/01/draft.grades/index.html?eref=twitter_feed

Agent of Orange
05-01-2011, 09:05 PM
Denver

What I liked: The Broncos gave up more points than any team in the NFL last year and capitalized on that in way the Cowboys should have: Aggressively grabbing defenders. It started with No. 2 pick, Von Miller, a pass-rush specialist OLB. It was a perfect needs-based selection: Denver was No. 29 last year on our Defensive Hog Index and dead-last league wide at pressuring the quarterback, forcing a Negative Pass Play on just 6.3 percent of dropbacks -- half the rate of the best pass-rush team in football last year, the Super Bowl champ packers (12.2%). Second-round pick Rahim Moore was the top-rated safety on most boards, and the Broncos landed him with the No. 45 pick. He could start right away.

What I didn't like: Liked it all.

John Elway's first draft has the potential to be a great one that addressed all the team's most glaring needs. Grade: A

Huh?

Ziggy
05-01-2011, 09:11 PM
I thought it was a very good draft. Schefter has our draft as the 3rd best in the NFL, Kiper gave us a B, SI gives us an A, Zoebel gives us a B+. Now I'm worried.

SmilinAssasSin27
05-01-2011, 09:24 PM
I think some consideration is going to the fact that we are switching schemes. Maybe the DTs we have now can be more successful in a 4-3...

TXBRONC
05-01-2011, 09:27 PM
I think some consideration is going to the fact that we are switching schemes. Maybe the DTs we have now can be more successful in a 4-3...

That's what has crossed my mind just recently.

Denver Native (Carol)
05-01-2011, 09:35 PM
I think some consideration is going to the fact that we are switching schemes. Maybe the DTs we have now can be more successful in a 4-3...

I have posted this many times before, but both Alfred Williams and Mark Schlereth have said many times that the DTs we have fit the 4-3 much better than the 3-4.

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05-01-2011, 10:12 PM
I thought it was a very good draft. Schefter has our draft as the 3rd best in the NFL, Kiper gave us a B, SI gives us an A, Zoebel gives us a B+. Now I'm worried.

We got the lowest grade from Kiper. That was encouraging . . .

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TXBRONC
05-01-2011, 10:13 PM
We got the lowest grade from Kiper. That was encouraging . . .

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I thought he gave us a good grade. :confused:

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05-01-2011, 10:15 PM
I have posted this many times before, but both Alfred Williams and Mark Schlereth have said many times that the DTs we have fit the 4-3 much better than the 3-4.

Yes . . . the DTs, the DEs, and the LBs.

It was a classic case of trying to adapt the personnel to the scheme, rather than the scheme to the personnel. That created bad job fit all over the field . . .

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05-01-2011, 10:17 PM
I thought he gave us a good grade. :confused:

I didn't say a low grade. I said the lowest grade.

Take another look at Ziggy's post.

It was actually meant as tongue-in-cheek. :)

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I Eat Staples
05-02-2011, 12:06 AM
I don't think they understand our needs if they think we addressed all of them.

Our DTs suck in any scheme. Let's not kid ourselves. I did like our draft though, I'm hoping for a good DT or 2 in FA.

CoachChaz
05-02-2011, 10:15 AM
I think they are basing their grades on name recognition...or something. I just dont see how Buffalo doesnt get credit for what they did and why Detroit gets as much credit as they do.

CoachChaz
05-02-2011, 10:15 AM
I think they are basing their grades on name recognition...or something. I just dont see how Buffalo doesnt get credit for what they did and why Detroit gets as much credit as they do.

TXBRONC
05-02-2011, 10:19 AM
I didn't say a low grade. I said the lowest grade.

Take another look at Ziggy's post.

It was actually meant as tongue-in-cheek. :)

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Well with your tongue in your cheek I could hardly understand you. :D

gobroncsnv
05-02-2011, 10:28 AM
Well, here's hoping the guys we do have are a better 4-3 fit... Otherwise, in FA, the smartest agents are going to make us spend some premium "desperation dollars" if we go for a good DT... then again, had we drafted a really good DT, no doubt we'd have to spend alot to sign them as well... might be a wash.

Nomad
05-02-2011, 10:32 AM
Well, here's hoping the guys we do have are a better 4-3 fit... Otherwise, in FA, the smartest agents are going to make us spend some premium "desperation dollars" if we go for a good DT... then again, had we drafted a really good DT, no doubt we'd have to spend alot to sign them as well... might be a wash.

BRONCOS aren't spending any cash....saving all their assets for next year's draft!!;)