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titan
03-05-2011, 09:26 AM
see http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/03/play-ball-espn-the-weekend-welcomes-stars-and-sports-fans-to-disneys-hollywood-studios/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DisneyParks+%28Disney+Parks+B log%29

Let's hope he has a future visit as part of the parade the day after the Super Bowl!

topscribe
03-05-2011, 09:42 AM
What next? Tebow visits Village Inn for breakfast?

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tomjonesrocks
03-05-2011, 09:57 AM
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7650/howzer.jpg

JaxBroncoGirl
03-05-2011, 10:20 AM
What next? Tebow visits Village Inn for breakfast?

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You kinda left the door open on this one top - the next thing is he is being named the starting QB. No pun intended.

Just messing with you....

topscribe
03-05-2011, 10:48 AM
You kinda left the door open on this one top - the next thing is he is being named the starting QB. No pun intended.

Just messing with you....

That is the dumb image you all have foisted onto me. You think it would be bad
news to me if Tebow were the starter. If there is an honest competition among
the QBs and Tebow was named the starter, that would be good news to me
because I am a true Broncos fan, and that would mean the best player is at
the position. I.e., I am not here because a QB I might idolize is here, if you
get my drift.

But I am sure Elway has been at both Disneyland and Disney World in his time,
but I don't ever remember its being in the news when he was . . .

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Dzone
03-05-2011, 10:54 AM
How can anyone not love a guy who wears Bronco Orange Pants and orange belt to a golf game with Jack Nicklaus?

Dzone
03-05-2011, 10:58 AM
All those Superstars at Disneyworld and who's picture do they post on their website? The most popular player in the NFL, who just happens to play for the Broncos

JaxBroncoGirl
03-05-2011, 11:03 AM
That is the dumb image you all have foisted onto me. You think it would be bad
news to me if Tebow were the starter. If there is an honest competition among
the QBs and Tebow was named the starter, that would be good news to me
because I am a true Broncos fan, and that would mean the best player is at
the position. I.e., I am not here because a QB I might idolize is here, if you
get my drift.

But I am sure Elway has been at both Disneyland and Disney World in his time,
but I don't ever remember its being in the news when he was . . .

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Top you do idolize Orton which is fine. I am really just messin with you here.

Lonestar
03-05-2011, 11:48 AM
Top you do idolize Orton which is fine. I am really just messin with you here.

I think you are wrong in that thought.

Top like alot of us just tells it like it is.

Gets the facts and presents them. Lots of folks see that as love for the guy.

Most do not want to hear the facts and run on emotion.

That is the difference in some ofkis guys that are not fans of players but fans of the team.
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BroncoJoe
03-05-2011, 12:14 PM
I think you are wrong in that thought.

Top like alot of us just tells it like it is.

Gets the facts and presents them. Lots of folks see that as love for the guy.

Most do not want to hear the facts and run on emotion.

That is the difference in some ofkis guys that are not fans of players but fans of the team.
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Here's a fact:

Orton was 3-13 as our starting QB last year.

Quite a bit worse than 1-2. With the same team.

And, to make sure we understand each other, I'm a fan of the TEAM, not player. I just want the best player/product on the field.

SR
03-05-2011, 12:23 PM
Here's a fact:

Orton was 3-13 as our starting QB last year.

Quite a bit worse than 1-2. With the same team.

And, to make sure we understand each other, I'm a fan of the TEAM, not player. I just want the best player/product on the field.

He was 3-10 as a starter last year. Just sayin'.

T.K.O.
03-05-2011, 12:24 PM
Here's a fact:

Orton was 3-13 as our starting QB last year.

Quite a bit worse than 1-2. With the same team.

And, to make sure we understand each other, I'm a fan of the TEAM, not player. I just want the best player/product on the field.

the broncos played 19 games last year ?:confused:
i think orton was 3-10 and tebow was 1-2.......not a big difference in the ratio there if my math is correct....but 30 % or 33.3% aint gettin it done either way

slim
03-05-2011, 12:25 PM
He was 3-10 as a starter last year. Just sayin'.

Are you saying there are not 19 games in the season?

SR
03-05-2011, 12:25 PM
Are you saying there are not 19 games in the season?

Wait. What?

T.K.O.
03-05-2011, 12:27 PM
Are you saying there are not 19 games in the season?

sometimes there are.....just been a while since there was 19 games in a BRONCOS season !:mad:;)

slim
03-05-2011, 12:28 PM
sometimes there are.....just been a while since there was 19 games in a BRONCOS season !:mad:;)

Yeah, it has been way too long.

That changes this year :cool:

BroncoJoe
03-05-2011, 12:31 PM
He was 3-10 as a starter last year. Just sayin'.

You're right - I had initially posted 3-10, then second guessed myself!

BroncoJoe
03-05-2011, 12:34 PM
My feeling is this:

I don't care who starts, I just want wins.

I'll also say this:

Orton has reached his ceiling. We don't know what Tebow's ceiling is yet, but after watching the games, I'd say it is quite a bit higher.

T.K.O.
03-05-2011, 12:50 PM
My feeling is this:

I don't care who starts, I just want wins.

I'll also say this:

Orton has reached his ceiling. We don't know what Tebow's ceiling is yet, but after watching the games, I'd say it is quite a bit higher.

we can at least hope that is the case....which is better than the "hopeless" feeling of last season:salute:

Bullgator
03-05-2011, 01:39 PM
That is the dumb image you all have foisted onto me. You think it would be bad
news to me if Tebow were the starter. If there is an honest competition among
the QBs and Tebow was named the starter, that would be good news to me
because I am a true Broncos fan, and that would mean the best player is at
the position. I.e., I am not here because a QB I might idolize is here, if you
get my drift.

But I am sure Elway has been at both Disneyland and Disney World in his time,
but I don't ever remember its being in the news when he was . . .

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Now now Top I thought we settled this... If someone followed TT here or hasent been alive as long as you it doesnt make tham any less a human being so put that shit to rest.

bcbronc
03-05-2011, 02:22 PM
come on people, this is a thread about mutha ******* Disney World!! It's the gayest place on Earth and you guys are arguing in this thread?? Shame!

any news on whether Donald Duck was working with Tebow on his five and seven step drops? Because I'm sure Tebow wouldn't be taking yet another holiday in the off-season, not with all the work he needs to do on the basics of QBing in the NFL.

topscribe
03-05-2011, 04:29 PM
Top you do idolize Orton which is fine. I am really just messin with you here.

Sorry, but I don't idolize anyone because they throw this odd-shaped ball, or
throw a ball through a hoop, or swing a stick at a ball. I'm too old for that. But
I understand that you would like to think there are more than just you FLA fans
who idolize a football player . . .

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Lonestar
03-05-2011, 04:30 PM
Here's a fact:

Orton was 3-13 as our starting QB last year.

Quite a bit worse than 1-2. With the same team.

And, to make sure we understand each other, I'm a fan of the TEAM, not player. I just want the best player/product on the field.

With a few exceptions most folks want the best player on the field.

But some are player fans first and oh yeah they are a bronco so I'll root for them.

As for Orton vs Tebow not sure Tim would have made a difference earlier. Or the results would not have been the same IF Orton would have had those last couple of games if He had been healthy.


No one will ever know for sure.

Am I glad Tebow got playing time absolutely. It gave him a small chance to show what he could do.

But overall I believe. Starter should go back in when they are healthy.
Can't lose your job if you get hurt.
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topscribe
03-05-2011, 04:30 PM
Now now Top I thought we settled this... If someone followed TT here or hasent been alive as long as you it doesnt make tham any less a human being so put that shit to rest.

Less than a human being? I think you're getting a bit carried away here. I don't
think that way. Only Clay is less than a human being . . .

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Lonestar
03-05-2011, 04:33 PM
My feeling is this:
I don't care who starts, I just want wins.
I'll also say this:
Orton has reached his ceiling. We don't know what Tebow's ceiling is yet, but after watching the games, I'd say it is quite a bit higher.

You have no idea what ortons ceiling is none of you do. I don't understand how y'all are better at judging talent than the coaches who see them most every day vs. Once a week on game day.
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topscribe
03-05-2011, 04:34 PM
Here's a fact:

Orton was 3-13 as our starting QB last year.

Quite a bit worse than 1-2. With the same team.

And, to make sure we understand each other, I'm a fan of the TEAM, not player. I just want the best player/product on the field.

Here's a fact: Orton was NOT 3-13 this year. Orton played in only 13 games.

Do the math.

Nonetheless, unless you are talking about tennis or golf, one single player is not
responsible for the record. Until Orton plays with better than a last-place
offensive rush AND a last-place defense (at the same time), that is NOT
Orton's record. You ought to know better than that . . .

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Ravage!!!
03-05-2011, 04:39 PM
Every QB in the NFL is judged on their wins and losses. Thats the truth, like it or not. What we DO know, is tht Orton isn't capable of leading a team that isn't stellar in all areas. We know that when the game is on the line, and we have the ball.... he fails.

We saw it last year, as well as the year before. As soon as the defense allows any kind of points... KO completely folds.

BroncoBJ
03-05-2011, 04:44 PM
One thing I do like is that when Tim took over as the starting QB, we scored 20 points or more in each of those 3 games. We havn't had a stretch of 3 straight games scoring 20 or more points since we went 3 games scoring 30 or more during the 1st 3 games of the 2008 season.

Not that it means anything but if we score between 20-30 points every game, I'll like our chances to win most of them assuming we fix our defense. And we were in every game with Tim til the end as well for the most part. Had a chance to win them all late.

As long as we win though, I don't really care who our qb is but I would like it to be Tebow since hes the guy drafted to be our "future" ... Would like to just get the ball rolling with him now.

But qb competitions are always fun. :elefant:

topscribe
03-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Every QB in the NFL is judged on their wins and losses. Thats the truth, like it or not. What we DO know, is tht Orton isn't capable of leading a team that isn't stellar in all areas. We know that when the game is on the line, and we have the ball.... he fails.

We saw it last year, as well as the year before. As soon as the defense allows any kind of points... KO completely folds.

I call BS. Despite you people who desperately want to trash Orton, I don't care
who the QB is: If a team can NEITHER run the ball NOR stop the the other team
on defense, that team is NOT going to win ball games. I don't care who that QB
is. Period.

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KCL
03-05-2011, 05:19 PM
I call BS. Despite you people who desperately want to trash Orton, I don't care
who the QB is: If a team can NEITHER run the ball NOR stop the the other team
on defense, that team is NOT going to win ball games. I don't care who that QB
is. Period.

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DING DING DING

We have a winner here folks! ;)

BTW-I agree with you top!

PAINTERDAVE
03-05-2011, 05:20 PM
That is the dumb image you all have foisted onto me. You think it would be bad
news to me if Tebow were the starter. If there is an honest competition among
the QBs and Tebow was named the starter, that would be good news to me
because I am a true Broncos fan, and that would mean the best player is at
the position. I.e., I am not here because a QB I might idolize is here, if you
get my drift.

But I am sure Elway has been at both Disneyland and Disney World in his time,
but I don't ever remember its being in the news when he was . . .

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Well.. in all fairness , Top, I remember when Elway was a rookie here...
they did a big two day news story on what kind of candy he handed out on Halloween.

The news is slow... somebody posts about Tebow...
eh.. it is what it is.

topscribe
03-05-2011, 05:26 PM
Well.. in all fairness , Top, I remember when Elway was a rookie here...
they did a big two day news story on what kind of candy he handed out on Halloween.

The news is slow... somebody posts about Tebow...
eh.. it is what it is.

Now that you have resurrected that part of my memory, Painter, I'll have to
admit what you say is true. It got so bad that even the media commented on
how the media was covering Elway's every move. Good call . . .

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PAINTERDAVE
03-05-2011, 05:28 PM
I call BS. Despite you people who desperately want to trash Orton, I don't care
who the QB is: If a team can NEITHER run the ball NOR stop the the other team
on defense, that team is NOT going to win ball games. I don't care who that QB
is. Period.

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Deal is... at the end of the season.. when the team was worn down...
Tebow went in and INSPIRED them to step up their play.

With virtually the same cast of charactors.... Tebow did win....
and even in his losses..
he looked hella better than the Orton who lost 21 of his last 26 games.
Orton has shown us... he definitly is NOT our guy.


It is not in my mind to slam Orton so much as want to
see if Tim can be the leader this team needs to build around.

I think it is imperitive to find out... soon...
and if he is NOT the guy...
we need to get a different QB in here.

HORSEPOWER 56
03-05-2011, 05:36 PM
come on people, this is a thread about mutha ******* Disney World!! It's the gayest place on Earth and you guys are arguing in this thread?? Shame!

any news on whether Donald Duck was working with Tebow on his five and seven step drops? Because I'm sure Tebow wouldn't be taking yet another holiday in the off-season, not with all the work he needs to do on the basics of QBing in the NFL.

No, Tebow works strictly from the shotgun at Disney World.

topscribe
03-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Deal is... at the end of the season.. when the team was worn down...
Tebow went in and INSPIRED them to step up their play.

With virtually the same cast of charactors.... Tebow did win....
and even in his losses..
he looked hella better than the Orton who lost 21 of his last 26 games.
Orton has shown us... he definitly is NOT our guy.


It is not in my mind to slam Orton so much as want to
see if Tim can be the leader this team needs to build around.

I think it is imperitive to find out... soon...
and if he is NOT the guy...
we need to get a different QB in here.

I understand, even though I disagree. But the time Tebow stepped in, the
O-line was gelling (Harris was back), the running game was improved (not
just Tebow's running, but the RBs were getting better YPA, and the defense
was beginning to step up.

Moreover, once again, Orton did not lose 21 of 26 games. The team lost 21
of 26 games. And to think that reflects on Orton's ability is shallow thinking.
When the defense is no longer pathetic (they don't have to be #1 in the
league; they just need not to be pathetic) and the running game is no longer
pathetic (ditto), then I would like to see Orton's W-L record, not when Orton
and his receivers are the only bright spots on the team . . .

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Dzone
03-05-2011, 08:39 PM
Lol...

nevcraw
03-05-2011, 08:49 PM
one of my best buddies texted me a couple of hours ago that he took his son to disney for his birthday as a father and son weekend -- His kid got into a flag foorball game with Tebow and Urban Meyer. His son caught a touchdown from TT, an autographed ball and a ton of pictures..

how cool is that??

Krugan
03-05-2011, 08:51 PM
As said already, I would prefer to be reading stories about Tebow working on his career, and a few less about him saving baby seals from teh jaws of sharks.

If the kid is going to lead this team anytime soon, he needs to be working at it.

nevcraw
03-05-2011, 08:54 PM
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Dzone
03-05-2011, 09:36 PM
Ludicrous to think this indicates that Tebow is somehow slacking on his preparation for next season. And if you don't like reading about Tebow, just dont click on the thread.

KCL
03-05-2011, 09:47 PM
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Ya know that kid was excited...pretty cool deal.

Bullgator
03-05-2011, 10:47 PM
Sorry, but I don't idolize anyone because they throw this odd-shaped ball, or
throw a ball through a hoop, or swing a stick at a ball. I'm too old for that. But
I understand that you would like to think there are more than just you FLA fans
who idolize a football player . . .-----


No, you just idolize a silly horse logo. If im a fan of TT its not because its because he throws a ball, its because of the quality of human being he is and promotes. He could be a seminole for all care.

But for some reason just because you are older than dirt and fart dust you feel the need to belittle anyone whos not from your century or hometown. so what Im from FLA. Get a grip man, take some jeritol, loosen the straps on your depends and say something nice once in a while. I kid, but for real, enough with the condisending remarks pops, so we are FLA fans- no crime in that- get over it already.

Lonestar
03-05-2011, 10:49 PM
I call BS. Despite you people who desperately want to trash Orton, I don't care
who the QB is: If a team can NEITHER run the ball NOR stop the the other team
on defense, that team is NOT going to win ball games. I don't care who that QB
is. Period.

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Most do not get it. Football is a team sport and while the QB gets the win he also gets the loses.

Even if he was not responsible for them.

To judge a QB only on wins and loses is beyond silly. But then that is how it is. Nothing else to support the facts.

Your correct I doubt that any of the greatest QB could give a Winning record to a last place d and running game.

Why they would expect Orton to is beyond logical thought.
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BeefStew25
03-06-2011, 12:26 AM
He could be a seminole for all care.


What a complete lie.

BeefStew25
03-06-2011, 12:27 AM
Most do not get it. Football is a team sport and while the QB gets the win he also gets the loses.

Even if he was not responsible for them.

To judge a QB only on wins and loses is beyond silly. But then that is how it is. Nothing else to support the facts.

Your correct I doubt that any of the greatest QB could give a Winning record to a last place d and running game.

Why they would expect Orton to is beyond logical thought.
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You are typing halfway sober tonight. Contests, Wilfred.

Dzone
03-06-2011, 01:09 AM
No, you just idolize a silly horse logo. If im a fan of TT its not because its because he throws a ball, its because of the quality of human being he is and promotes. He could be a seminole for all care.

But for some reason just because you are older than dirt and fart dust you feel the need to belittle anyone whos not from your century or hometown. so what Im from FLA. Get a grip man, take some jeritol, loosen the straps on your depends and say something nice once in a while. I kid, but for real, enough with the condisending remarks pops, so we are FLA fans- no crime in that- get over it already.
Now you have crossed the line. Belittling the franchise was uncalled for. I was on your side until this snide remark. Go find another board to belittle:defense:

PAINTERDAVE
03-06-2011, 02:29 AM
Most do not get it. Football is a team sport and while the QB gets the win he also gets the loses.

Even if he was not responsible for them.

To judge a QB only on wins and loses is beyond silly. But then that is how it is. Nothing else to support the facts.

Your correct I doubt that any of the greatest QB could give a Winning record to a last place d and running game.

Why they would expect Orton to is beyond logical thought.
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What I want from the QB position is LEADERSHIP.
Part of the reason the team played like crap was that Orton is not a leader.
That is why I continue to give him credit for his record of wins and losses.

The same O-line that Orton had in his debacle in Phoenix..
was the O-line that stood up tall and strong for Tebow right after.
The defense even stepped up it's game... with the inspirational leader in place.

I seriously do NOT think Orton gives this team the best chance to win...
based on Kyle's performance with no stres in practice time.
Kyle folds under pressure.

I really believe that we could win just as many 2011 games
with Tebow at the helm, as Kyle.

The advantage there is that Tebow gets his shot...
the team finds out if he can hack it...
and we know what the future will hold.

Playing the mopey guy with a one year contract... that don't gain us a thing.
Developing the #1 pick... that DOES give us value from the games of 2011.

The team will not rally around a stop gap guy playing out his one year contract...
but with the #1 pick in there... they will feel like they are becoming a cohesive unit.
The team that sees a bright future... wil play harder. Orton will NOT provide that spark.

Heck... Tim should have been starting for this very reason after the bye in 2010.

topscribe
03-06-2011, 02:45 AM
What I want from the QB position is LEADERSHIP.
Part of the reason the team played like crap was that Orton is not a leader.
That is why I continue to give him credit for his record of wins and losses.

The same O-line that Orton had in his debacle in Phoenix..
was the O-line that stood up tall and strong for Tebow right after.
The defense even stepped up it's game... with the inspirational leader in place.

I seriously do NOT think Orton gives this team the best chance to win...
based on Kyle's performance with no stres in practice time.
Kyle folds under pressure.

I really believe that we could win just as many 2011 games
with Tebow at the helm, as Kyle.

The advantage there is that Tebow gets his shot...
the team find out if he can hack it...
and we know what the future will hold.

Playing the mopey guy with a one year contract... that don't gain us a thing.
Developing the #1 pick... that DOES give us value from the games of 2011.

Heck... Tim should have been starting for this very reason after the bye in 2010.

Painter, while you so conveniently forget about the rib injuries Orton tried to
play with in Phoenix, was that the same O-line he had against St. Louis and
the two games before that -- you know, where he passed for 860 yards,
8 TDs, and 1 INT in those three games? You mean that O-line?

And I'm trying to figure out what position Orton played for the defense -- you
know, when the defense played like crap because of Orton's bad leadership?

Can you help me to find some logic in all that?

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topscribe
03-06-2011, 02:54 AM
No, you just idolize a silly horse logo. If im a fan of TT its not because its because he throws a ball, its because of the quality of human being he is and promotes. He could be a seminole for all care.

But for some reason just because you are older than dirt and fart dust you feel the need to belittle anyone whos not from your century or hometown. so what Im from FLA. Get a grip man, take some jeritol, loosen the straps on your depends and say something nice once in a while. I kid, but for real, enough with the condisending remarks pops, so we are FLA fans- no crime in that- get over it already.

Where did I belittle anybody? You are in a full-scale attack mode now, aren't you?

And silly horse logo? What are you doing here on a Broncos board? You come
here because you want to slobber all over Tebow's image and genuflect
before him, and you dare attack the original Broncos logo as a "silly horse
logo"?

I hope now that the Broncos fans here have found you out. You are a troll.

There are other Broncos fans with whom I have been debating, some who
like Tebow better than Orton, and others who just flat hate Orton. But they
are still friends of mine, and they are my fellow Broncos fans.

I do not believe they will take kindly to your referring to the original Broncos
logo as a "silly horse logo."

Moreover, you showed what a bald-faced lie you told when you asked me why
I liked Orton. You represented your intentions as honorable. Then, after I went
to the trouble of opening up and explaining myself, sharing with you my history
with my beloved Broncos, you turned around here and used that against me.

If I have judged correctly, those good Broncos fans, those friends of mine
here, from this post of yours, will see you for what you are.

Go back to Florida, troll. You are out of place here . . .

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bcbronc
03-06-2011, 03:15 AM
Every QB in the NFL is judged on their wins and losses. .

unless you're Phillip Rivers. why is it he gets talked about as an "elite" QB despite the fact he rarely makes the playoffs (and whimpers out when they do) even with good-to-great OL, TE, running game, WRs, and defense? ;)

Bullgator
03-06-2011, 03:45 AM
Where did I belittle anybody? You are in a full-scale attack mode now, aren't you?

And silly horse logo? What are you doing here on a Broncos board? You come
here because you want to slobber all over Tebow's image and genuflect
before him, and you dare attack the original Broncos logo as a "silly horse
logo"?

I hope now that the Broncos fans here have found you out. You are a troll.

There are other Broncos fans with whom I have been debating, some who
like Tebow better than Orton, and others who just flat hate Orton. But they
are still friends of mine, and they are my fellow Broncos fans.

I do not believe they will take kindly to your referring to the original Broncos
logo as a "silly horse logo."

Moreover, you showed what a bald-faced lie you told when you asked me why
I liked Orton. You represented your intentions as honorable. Then, after I went
to the trouble of opening up and explaining myself, sharing with you my history
with my beloved Broncos, you turned around here and used that against me.

If I have judged correctly, those good Broncos fans, those friends of mine
here, from this post of yours, will see you for what you are.

Go back to Florida, troll. You are out of place here . . .

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Hell ya im in attack mode, in every post you put up you throw a barb at FLA fans and I aint gonna to take your shit. Ive tried to see where you come from and even showed you some respect when you explained your position on KO. I extended an olive branch, you preceded to whip me in the face with it.

all I got in return was more condisending remarks about being from FLA and how you are a real fan and your opinion is worthy and Im a TT fan and mine is worthless. How real you are and how fake we are.

You sit here and defend your logo and I would expect no less, ill take my lumps for it but you crap on my team and state and expect me to take that shit laying down?

you call us fake and treat us as lessers and you want me to bow down LOL **** here with that shit idk who the hell you think you are. I dont recognize you authority to judge me Top.

my intentions are honorable and i would give you the shirt off my back but if you throw it back in my face we gonna throw down. you need to ease off that shit i told you before im proud to be a Gator and if i get one barrel you get TWO.

anyone who took offense at my silly horse comment needs to put themselves in my shoes- just like you reacted harshly SO WILL I. no disrespect to the franchise intended just pointing out the irony of Tops comments about "woshiping idols"

2 things you need to get in your skull. One Im not going anywhere and two ill treat you how you treat me. end of story

Bullgator
03-06-2011, 04:13 AM
What a complete lie.

This might suprise you but there are more important things in life than football.

I hate FSU to be sure, but at the end of the day its what we stand for more than the colors or names we root for.

Some people are annoyed that TT is such a goody two shoes but it actually gives me a little more hope for humanity. THATS why im so interested in TT succeeding. That fact that hes a Gator is icing it really is.

TT is just human like the rest of us but thats why he gives me hope.. hes just a man but hes running the race the way it should be run.. me? not so much. you can say im a work in progress... ill fly off the handle when im poked, a flaw to be sure but hey nobodies perfect.

when you are on your death bed AND YOU WILL BE, it wont be how many rings your team won that you will be thinking about....

@Top I totally dont expect you to take this gracefully but for what its worth im sorry going nutts on you.. just kills me to reach out and get nothing but snide underhanded insults for being a FLA fan but w/e i should know better.. i cant control how you act alls i can do is what i think is right... even if its eating insults (which if you havent learned yet, i dont do that very well)

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03-06-2011, 10:07 AM
Hell ya im in attack mode, in every post you put up you throw a barb at FLA fans and I aint gonna to take your shit. Ive tried to see where you come from and even showed you some respect when you explained your position on KO. I extended an olive branch, you preceded to whip me in the face with it.

all I got in return was more condisending remarks about being from FLA and how you are a real fan and your opinion is worthy and Im a TT fan and mine is worthless. How real you are and how fake we are.

You sit here and defend your logo and I would expect no less, ill take my lumps for it but you crap on my team and state and expect me to take that shit laying down?

you call us fake and treat us as lessers and you want me to bow down LOL **** here with that shit idk who the hell you think you are. I dont recognize you authority to judge me Top.

my intentions are honorable and i would give you the shirt off my back but if you throw it back in my face we gonna throw down. you need to ease off that shit i told you before im proud to be a Gator and if i get one barrel you get TWO.

anyone who took offense at my silly horse comment needs to put themselves in my shoes- just like you reacted harshly SO WILL I. no disrespect to the franchise intended just pointing out the irony of Tops comments about "woshiping idols"

2 things you need to get in your skull. One Im not going anywhere and two ill treat you how you treat me. end of story

Speak for yourself, troll. I never said a wayward thing to anybody else from
Florida. And I never said anything out of the way to you, except the comment
where I later said I was wrong, and I take that back because I know now that
you were not sincere with your question.

And don't go thinking you are going to influence anyone else here against me.
Most of them have known me for years, and they know what I am all about.

With your insult to the Broncos franchise, you have made yourself anathema
on this board. You are a fraud. That is all.

Now, I'm out of this discussion. I can't take the odor anymore.


P.S. You are on Ignore. And I hope other Broncos fans put you there, too.

P.P.S. I can take your personal insults. After all, who are you? But to come
onto a Broncos board and denigrate a Broncos institution is over the line.

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frauschieze
03-06-2011, 10:19 AM
I don't have time to clean up this thread properly, as I have someplace more important to be this Sunday morning.....

So consider this a generic "You're outta line" to everyone who's been tossing barbs back and forth. What started as innocent teasing was taken personally, and it all escalated from there. There's NO need for this "I'm better than you" posturing. If you don't have something nice to say in this thread, don't post.

Thanks.

Now, :focus:

BroncoJoe
03-06-2011, 10:30 AM
You have no idea what ortons ceiling is none of you do. I don't understand how y'all are better at judging talent than the coaches who see them most every day vs. Once a week on game day.
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Last I checked, this is a message board for fans to post opinions.

Oh, and look in the mirror.

topscribe
03-06-2011, 10:47 AM
Now you have crossed the line. Belittling the franchise was uncalled for. I was on your side until this snide remark. Go find another board to belittle:defense:

Bears repeating. Thank you.

You are the lone Broncos fan to respond to this so far.

Contrary to what some may believe, this is a more important issue than the topic.

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Lonestar
03-06-2011, 10:59 AM
Last I checked, this is a message board for fans to post opinions.

Oh, and look in the mirror.

I have no issue with someones opine. But when it is stated as a fact, ten I take issue with it.

Like as if the opinion/comment is made enough it then becomes a fact.

Once again I'll let the coaching staff make those decisions as they see the plYers daily and have real flim and actually no what the call was sent in from the guy whose is making the play selection.

But blanket statements like you made need to be called out. IMHO
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topscribe
03-06-2011, 11:09 AM
Last I checked, this is a message board for fans to post opinions.

Oh, and look in the mirror.


I have no issue with someones opine. But when it is stated as a fact, ten I take issue with it.

Like as if the opinion/comment is made enough it then becomes a fact.

Once again I'll let the coaching staff make those decisions as they see the plYers daily and have real flim and actually no what the call was sent in from the guy whose is making the play selection.

But blanket statements like you made need to be called out. IMHO
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Yes, you are both right. But something has dawned on me in this thread that
we need to keep in mind: Most of us are true Broncos fans. And even if we
are on the opposite sides of an issue or player, we need to keep in mind that
most of us are true Broncos fans, and all of us need to maintain civil arguments
among most of us who are true Broncos fans.

BTW, this is a generic comment, fellers, not specifically aimed at either of you . . .

P.S. And to honor those rival fans who know how to become good citizens
of Broncos Forums, of course. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/thdrink.gif

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Dzone
03-06-2011, 11:29 AM
One last thing, Tim Tebow would never condone demeaning comments/jokes about the elderly. If one admires Tebow for his high standards, then don't make comments that run contrary to those standards. Have a nice day

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03-06-2011, 11:34 AM
One last thing, Tim Tebow would never condone demeaning comments/jokes about the elderly. If one admires Tebow for his high standards, then don't make comments that run contrary to those standards. Have a nice day

Was that a left-handed compliment or a right-handed insult? :laugh:

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BroncoJoe
03-06-2011, 12:06 PM
I have no issue with someones opine. But when it is stated as a fact, ten I take issue with it.

Like as if the opinion/comment is made enough it then becomes a fact.

Once again I'll let the coaching staff make those decisions as they see the plYers daily and have real flim and actually no what the call was sent in from the guy whose is making the play selection.

But blanket statements like you made need to be called out. IMHO
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And, that's your opinion. Wrong, but yours.

Bullgator
03-06-2011, 12:12 PM
"I am not here because a QB I might idolize is here, if you
get my drift."

"But I understand that you would like to think there are more than just you FLA fans
who idolize a football player"

Just 2 examples in 1 page in 1 thread...In almost every post you cant resist throwing one of these in here. How many condisending remarks do you think someone will take?

Normally I wouldnt care but I went out of my way to reach out to you and try and bridge the gap but you took my kindess for granted and kept on with the snide Im better than you remarks.

Ill admit Im wrong for making fun of your age, I have a little remorse for that but everything gets older and I dont think just because you been around, you get to be some arogant fascist.

If you think you can run me off, not going to happen... If you want to run a campaign to get all of bronco nation to rally to your call and flame me lol be my guest... as for the term troll, IMO you are the troll hopping an every TT thread with something negative to say and starting all these arguements.

You may not mean anything by your arrogance, it may just be how you are and you just cant change after all these years.

In short, as hard as it is to say to you of all people, Im sorry for personally attacking you. Ill own up to it, it was childish and I have some remorse. I dont expect you to accept it, but thats cool with me.

bcbronc
03-06-2011, 01:35 PM
there's no Disney magic left in this thread. :tsk:

PAINTERDAVE
03-06-2011, 01:46 PM
Painter, while you so conveniently forget about the rib injuries Orton tried to
play with in Phoenix, was that the same O-line he had against St. Louis and
the two games before that -- you know, where he passed for 860 yards,
8 TDs, and 1 INT in those three games? You mean that O-line?

And I'm trying to figure out what position Orton played for the defense -- you
know, when the defense played like crap because of Orton's bad leadership?

Can you help me to find some logic in all that?

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Top.. I know Orton can play... Not saying he can't.

But those 3 games were also 3 LOSSES.

Deal is... if he is injured to the point that he can't be effective...
he shoulda taken himself out. Selfish charactor - lack of leadership.

The defense DOES get inspired by the QB.... or UNINSPIRED.
Every body keeps saying Orton cant be held accountable for losses..
because of the o-line, RB's and poor DEFENSE....
we have heard this over and over... the team losses.
I get it.. the team.

but, when Tebow goes in and the defense steps up their game...
along with the offense.. why is that not attributed to Tebow's
LEADERSHIP and EXAMPLE?

Team dynamics are part of that "intangible" factor we hear about.

Do you thiunk Champ signed on for another hitch to play with ORTON?

I remember him saying he was excited to play with TEBOW.

Like I said... Orton can play.. I hope he does well with another team...
but it is time here to win with the kid. To move forward, not backwards.

PAINTERDAVE
03-06-2011, 01:53 PM
And by the way.. I KNOW Top is a huge fan and will support Tebow when the time comes...

he is also a LOYAL guy who is supporting another Bronco QB who gave us his all as well.

Gator.. I get what you say, too...

to quote Rodney King..

"Can't we all just get along?"

topscribe
03-06-2011, 02:04 PM
And by the way.. I KNOW Top is a huge fan and will support Tebow when the time comes...

he is also a LOYAL guy who is supporting another Bronco QB who gave us his all as well.

Gator.. I get what you say, too...

to quote Rodney King..

"Can't we all just get along?"

Painter, you get what he's saying when he denigrates YOUR Broncos?

Okay . . . whatever . . .

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rcsodak
03-06-2011, 02:04 PM
No, you just idolize a silly horse logo. If im a fan of TT its not because its because he throws a ball, its because of the quality of human being he is and promotes. He could be a seminole for all care.

But for some reason just because you are older than dirt and fart dust you feel the need to belittle anyone whos not from your century or hometown. so what Im from FLA. Get a grip man, take some jeritol, loosen the straps on your depends and say something nice once in a while. I kid, but for real, enough with the condisending remarks pops, so we are FLA fans- no crime in that- get over it already.
:laugh:
remind me of Westy.....

....must be the florida swamps drinking water...
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rcsodak
03-06-2011, 02:08 PM
You are typing halfway sober tonight. Contests, Wilfred.so drink up, wilbur.
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PAINTERDAVE
03-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Painter, you get what he's saying when he denigrates YOUR Broncos?

Okay . . . whatever . . .

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No , Top I dont like that... but he apologized for it as well.

I get what he is saying about other fundamental things...

I dont like all this over the top personal stuff...

I dont like him disrespecting you..

and I dont like you having to be defensive about it either....
but I understand your stance.

I wish we could all get along and agree to stick to discussion about the NFL.

Just trying to lessen the tension.

KCL
03-06-2011, 02:12 PM
there's no Disney magic left in this thread. :tsk:

http://disney-clipart.com/mickey-mouse/mickey-mouse/mickey-mouse-19.jpg

rcsodak
03-06-2011, 02:16 PM
Hell ya im in attack mode, in every post you put up you throw a barb at FLA fans and I aint gonna to take your shit. Ive tried to see where you come from and even showed you some respect when you explained your position on KO. I extended an olive branch, you preceded to whip me in the face with it.

all I got in return was more condisending remarks about being from FLA and how you are a real fan and your opinion is worthy and Im a TT fan and mine is worthless. How real you are and how fake we are.

You sit here and defend your logo and I would expect no less, ill take my lumps for it but you crap on my team and state and expect me to take that shit laying down?

you call us fake and treat us as lessers and you want me to bow down LOL **** here with that shit idk who the hell you think you are. I dont recognize you authority to judge me Top.

my intentions are honorable and i would give you the shirt off my back but if you throw it back in my face we gonna throw down. you need to ease off that shit i told you before im proud to be a Gator and if i get one barrel you get TWO.

anyone who took offense at my silly horse comment needs to put themselves in my shoes- just like you reacted harshly SO WILL I. no disrespect to the franchise intended just pointing out the irony of Tops comments about "woshiping idols"

2 things you need to get in your skull. One Im not going anywhere and two ill treat you how you treat me. end of story

Wow. Not only showing your non_bronco fandom, but your writing is changing as well. Anger Management is in your future, methinks. Mods, can this get put in the" fun" forum?? :laugh:
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frauschieze
03-06-2011, 02:23 PM
This thread is closed until I have 30 minutes to devote to cleaning the BS out. I am GREATLY disappointed in many of you for continuing to feud. Y'all wanna call each other out on who is a true fan, who's a troll, who's right and wrong, take it to another board or to PM.

NO ONE wants to read this nonsense.