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PAINTERDAVE
02-28-2011, 11:25 PM
On the radio today... Big Al made this statement
as if it is the most logical and rational thing to happen
in the wake of an achilles inury.

He said that Thomas will never be able to run the fast, long routes again...
and that he should be beefed up and used as a TE....
once he heals up as best he can.

Al said Thomas could become the next Shannon Sharpe for the Broncos.

Interesting comments from an ex-Bronco who wears a ring.

Ziggy
02-28-2011, 11:39 PM
Al was a great complimentary player for our super bowl runs. It doesn't make him a great GM. I still remember him talking in training camp of 07 about how Jarvis Moss was the real deal.

SR
02-28-2011, 11:56 PM
Sounds like a terrible idea. I'd rather cut him than make him a second rate TE...but I'm certainly not ready to give up on him as a WR yet.

BeefStew25
03-01-2011, 12:01 AM
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PAINTERDAVE
03-01-2011, 12:33 AM
Sounds like a terrible idea. I'd rather cut him than make him a second rate TE...but I'm certainly not ready to give up on him as a WR yet.

If he can't compete with speed on the long routes...
but he is still good over the middle and in the flat and all that TE jazz...
if he would be a big target in the end zone...
a great outlet for Tebow...

I would much rather see us use him for what his strength is after the achilles injury.
Dude is tall and big enough...

I don't see how you can say with certainty that he would be a "second rate" TE.

Cutting yet ANOTHER 1st round pick sounds like a terrible idea to me.

The future is unwritten.

Bullgator
03-01-2011, 01:06 AM
I think its a great idea...recievers are good, we need paas catching TE and we wont have to waste a pick 4 1.... IF he wasnt made of bostle wood

Lonestar
03-01-2011, 04:00 AM
Sky is falling sky is falling, he will not be AS fast Aa he was.

Because one guy make a statement everyOne is believing it is gospel.

This injury today is not A Career ender it was in his day.

Will he be as fast as he was, maybe not but he should be faster than most wr's. I seem to recall Rod stretching the field quite well and he was no burner.
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Northman
03-01-2011, 05:59 AM
If he can't compete with speed on the long routes...
but he is still good over the middle and in the flat and all that TE jazz...
if he would be a big target in the end zone...
a great outlet for Tebow...

I would much rather see us use him for what his strength is after the achilles injury.
Dude is tall and big enough...

I don't see how you can say with certainty that he would be a "second rate" TE.

Cutting yet ANOTHER 1st round pick sounds like a terrible idea to me.

The future is unwritten.

No offense but no way is DT TE material. As a big receiver he should of been beefed up anyway but is frail. You have to learn to not take sportscasters that seriously because some of the stuff they say is totally moronic.

claymore
03-01-2011, 06:04 AM
With our medical staff he will be lucky to walk again.

Dirk
03-01-2011, 06:50 AM
With our medical staff he will be lucky to walk again.

Amen brotha!


As I have said before, I think DT was a poor choice. You take a gamble on an injured player with a potential high reward hoping for the best. Unfortunately, the kid seems to be hurt too often. Even before the achilles injury it seemed he would go out for a series or 2 and limp off.

I hope the best for him. He seems like a good kid, but it doesn't look good to me.

And no, I think we get a bonifide TE and not a make-shift one.

claymore
03-01-2011, 07:53 AM
Amen brotha!


As I have said before, I think DT was a poor choice. You take a gamble on an injured player with a potential high reward hoping for the best. Unfortunately, the kid seems to be hurt too often. Even before the achilles injury it seemed he would go out for a series or 2 and limp off.

I hope the best for him. He seems like a good kid, but it doesn't look good to me.

And no, I think we get a bonifide TE and not a make-shift one.

I would hope he could create mismatches as a TE. But if he cant stay on the field as a WR, I dont see him staying on the field as a TE.

rcsodak
03-01-2011, 08:24 AM
If he can't compete with speed on the long routes...
but he is still good over the middle and in the flat and all that TE jazz...
if he would be a big target in the end zone...
a great outlet for Tebow...

I would much rather see us use him for what his strength is after the achilles injury.
Dude is tall and big enough...

I don't see how you can say with certainty that he would be a "second rate" TE.

Cutting yet ANOTHER 1st round pick sounds like a terrible idea to me.

The future is unwritten.

ingRed is prolly taking into account the fact that it'd take years for him to learn to block learn the position. I'm with ingRed......shanny wasted a roster spot on a te project for 3yrs when that could have gone to a defensive player. Nate Jackson, anybody?
And, let's not start throwing dirt on dt's recovery just yet.
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rcsodak
03-01-2011, 08:25 AM
Sky is falling sky is falling, he will not be AS fast Aa he was.

Because one guy make a statement everyOne is believing it is gospel.

This injury today is not A Career ender it was in his day.

Will he be as fast as he was, maybe not but he should be faster than most wr's. I seem to recall Rod stretching the field quite well and he was no burner.
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SOCALORADO.
03-01-2011, 08:38 AM
Coaching staff may have no choice. He might not be able to really get up to WR speed again. If thats the case, its logical that they would at least try to make him a TE.
But he wouldnt be much of a blocker, thats for sure. He would be much more of a project. Any way you slice it, its a bad situation with DT.

TXBRONC
03-01-2011, 08:40 AM
First things first, he needs to get healthy.

LTC Pain
03-01-2011, 09:14 AM
First things first, he needs to get healthy.

This is the only thing right now. Word!

claymore
03-01-2011, 09:15 AM
Cut everyone. Start from scratch.

Dzone
03-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Last I heard DT wont be able to play until 2012

hotcarl
03-01-2011, 10:13 AM
hahahahhahaha

vandammage13
03-01-2011, 10:19 AM
I have trouble staying healthy, so let me move to a position where I will have even more contact.

rcsodak
03-01-2011, 10:23 AM
Coaching staff may have no choice. He might not be able to really get up to WR speed again. If thats the case, its logical that they would at least try to make him a TE.
But he wouldnt be much of a blocker, thats for sure. He would be much more of a project. Any way you slice it, its a bad situation with DT.
Lol
you act like he lost his leg in a farming accident and they re-attached it!!
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rcsodak
03-01-2011, 10:24 AM
Last I heard DT wont be able to play until 2012
I heard he may never walk again.
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ikillz0mbies
03-01-2011, 10:51 AM
I sense the second coming of Nate Jackson......

weazel
03-01-2011, 11:00 AM
dude is too brittle to play WR without breaking and you guys want him to play TE? LMFAO

I'm sorry but I just see this as another wasted 1st round pick

PAINTERDAVE
03-01-2011, 11:18 AM
Now I know.
Thought it was an interesting idea....

Thing is... you hear this stuff..
with no real feedback from others...
and it is good to be able to get feedback here.

Thanks for all the input.

SR
03-01-2011, 11:21 AM
If he can't compete with speed on the long routes...
but he is still good over the middle and in the flat and all that TE jazz...
if he would be a big target in the end zone...
a great outlet for Tebow...

I would much rather see us use him for what his strength is after the achilles injury.
Dude is tall and big enough...

I don't see how you can say with certainty that he would be a "second rate" TE.

Cutting yet ANOTHER 1st round pick sounds like a terrible idea to me.

The future is unwritten.

I don't see how you can say with certainty that he won't be a solid WR because of an Achilles injury...oh because someone on the radio that also said Jarvis Moss was gonna be a stud said so...that's right.


That's all I'm saying.

BORDERLINE
03-01-2011, 11:33 AM
I'm not a fan of this idea. D.T was very fast even if he doesn't come back to full speed he had a step to lose.

turftoad
03-01-2011, 12:16 PM
An Achilles tendon rupture sends more than one third of National Football League (NFL) players to the sidelines permanently, according to a new study published in Foot & Ankle Specialist. NFL players who do return to the playing field after having suffered an Achilles tendon rupture experience about a 50 percent reduction in their power ratings.

The investigators found that nearly 36 percent of players who had suffered a complete Achilles tendon rupture never returned to play in the NFL, and those who did return were never able to meet their pre-injury levels of performance.

Read the rest here.

http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/2/35136/achilles-tendon-rupture-ends-many-nfl-careers.html

TXBRONC
03-01-2011, 12:16 PM
Cut everyone. Start from scratch.

When did you become a McDaniels disciple? :confused: :lol:

Ravage!!!
03-01-2011, 12:21 PM
Cut everyone. Start from scratch.

Exactly!! It worked wonders for the last coach, lets try it again! :salute:

Dzone
03-01-2011, 12:48 PM
DT is done. He is not cut out for the NFL. Add him to the list of 1st round bomb outs. Imagine having Dez Bryant instead. Scru U Mcdaniels

underrated29
03-01-2011, 01:02 PM
I do not know why anyone thinks he is done. I mean seriously, its pretty stupid.


And the guy is not made of glass. He was injured when we drafted him, and re injured the same part of his body again. It is not like he broke his leg, then he tore his mcl, then dislocated all of his fingers, and broke his collar bone.



So why not take a deep breath, forget that it was mcdaniels that drafted him, and your blind hate might dissipate to a more sound logic, that he is hurt, scheduled to be back in August some time and we will see from there.

silkamilkamonico
03-01-2011, 01:56 PM
DT at TE is just f'n retarded. About as retarded as the talks of moving Brandon Marshall to TE.

Dzone
03-01-2011, 04:43 PM
Its not stupid to think that DT just might be an injury prone bust. All signs so far point to that end. Sad but true. I like DT. He's a good dude, but he's just had horrible luck. And yes, it was a horrible draft choice.

TXBRONC
03-01-2011, 04:52 PM
Exactly!! It worked wonders for the last coach, lets try it again! :salute:

Hersey. Someone get a pole, wood, rope, and matches. :D

Lonestar
03-01-2011, 05:06 PM
I do not know why anyone thinks he is done. I mean seriously, its pretty stupid.


And the guy is not made of glass. He was injured when we drafted him, and re injured the same part of his body again. It is not like he broke his leg, then he tore his mcl, then dislocated all of his fingers, and broke his collar bone.
So why not take a deep breath, forget that it was mcdaniels that drafted him, and your blind hate might dissipate to a more sound logic, that he is hurt, scheduled to be back in August some time and we will see from there.

Unless he can't rehab it back to being useable and IIRC most come back stronger than before. A few do not To
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hotcarl
03-01-2011, 06:29 PM
what a horrible string of horrible drafts... i wonder why we are the second worst team in the NFL?

i wonder if there is a worse time to be rebuilding with a new a coach going into a lockout season

these go to eleven

NightTerror218
03-01-2011, 06:32 PM
what a horrible string of horrible drafts... i wonder why we are the second worst team in the NFL?

i wonder if there is a worse time to be rebuilding with a new a coach going into a lockout season

these go to eleven

this just means we have to focus on building our team through the draft....which means we wont be able to sign so old farts who still think they have something left in tank.....thank god farve retired finally

G_Money
03-01-2011, 07:33 PM
Turftoad's link is a good one. Achilles injuries tend to rob a player of upper echelon explosiveness. That said, there are plenty of slower WRs who excel. Which is good, because I don't expect Thomas to run a 4.38 again.

If you wanted him to out-accelerate DBs on a fly pattern, I'd say forget about that now.

Still, Marques Colston has done all right after running a 4.6. He ain't the fastest guy either.

As he says, though, "I know my strengths: killing people with routes and making people miss in the open field. I'm 6-5 and can jump, and I can take a lot of punishment and block."

So Thomas needs to run good routes (which he hasn't done), catch everything thrown his way (not a strong suit yet either) and block his ass off (this he can do, and will need to do more of).

He's not hopeless. The kid has all kinds of talent. But the injury is a setback for sure. Make him work on routes and hands every day. Routes might have to wait for that whole injury-healing thing to happen. Fire balls at his head while he's laid up in bed right now.

Catch, kid. If the wheels are no longer able to be special then the hands had better come with super glue.

~G

tomjonesrocks
03-01-2011, 08:19 PM
It's a shame but he was a terrible draft pick with Dez Bryant on the board--inexcusable really. Classic over-thinking the draft--something this team has been guilty of for a very long time. I guess TE is better than getting nothing out of him--which is what I expect right now--but he'd be a very high paid TE with his lofty first-round draft position.

If DT is going to be a struggling, bottom-tier 400-yard a year WR at this point I'd almost he rather never come back. I could be mistaken--but I believed there was some financial injury relief to the team if he never makes it on the field again. Some guys aren't meant for football and apparently he's all of them.

Dzone
03-01-2011, 08:36 PM
Willie Middlebrooks comes to mind. Man, lets hope not.
So whats the typical time frame for a torn achilles to heal and be 100%? I was under the impression that he would miss most of 2011 season.

PAINTERDAVE
03-02-2011, 12:14 AM
Willie Middlebrooks comes to mind. Man, lets hope not.
So whats the typical time frame for a torn achilles to heal and be 100%? I was under the impression that he would miss most of 2011 season.

That is what I thought as well....
the talk of being ready in August was a best case scenario back when the injury first happened....
I believe the updated prognosis is DT is on IR for 2011.

62xlaefr
03-02-2011, 12:55 AM
Al was a great complimentary player for our super bowl runs. It doesn't make him a great GM. I still remember him talking in training camp of 07 about how Jarvis Moss was the real deal.




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turftoad
03-02-2011, 11:57 AM
Unless he can't rehab it back to being useable and IIRC most come back stronger than before. A few do not To
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An Achilles tendon rupture sends more than one third of National Football League (NFL) players to the sidelines permanently, according to a new study published in Foot & Ankle Specialist. NFL players who do return to the playing field after having suffered an Achilles tendon rupture experience about a 50 percent reduction in their power ratings.

The investigators found that nearly 36 percent of players who had suffered a complete Achilles tendon rupture never returned to play in the NFL, and those who did return were never able to meet their pre-injury levels of performance.

Read the rest here.

http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/2/35136/achilles-tendon-rupture-ends-many-nfl-careers.html

We all hopes he comes back strong but it doesn't look like he'll be back as strong, fast or explosive as he was.

underrated29
03-02-2011, 12:17 PM
a player is a bust after one year, in which he didnt even play the entire year, mostly because we drafted him injured?



This is some sound logic.

turftoad
03-02-2011, 12:29 PM
a player is a bust after one year, in which he didnt even play the entire year, mostly because we drafted him injured?



This is some sound logic.

I think the main jest here is how the injury is going to affect him or slow him down.
I liked what he showed as a rook when he was healthy and had high hopes for him.
That said, there is no question that this injury is going to affect him. The only thing we don't know, is how much.

underrated29
03-02-2011, 12:57 PM
I think the main jest here is how the injury is going to affect him or slow him down.
I liked what he showed as a rook when he was healthy and had high hopes for him.
That said, there is no question that this injury is going to affect him. The only thing we don't know, is how much.





That is sound logic.

BroncoStud
03-03-2011, 05:53 AM
It's a shame, he showed great flashes... If he isn't fast any longer I don't see why the Broncos would keep him, as bad as it sucks to lose a 1st rounder to an injury like this his injury is about as bad as it gets for a running athlete. Bummer dude, I like him.

rcsodak
03-03-2011, 08:02 AM
Willie Middlebrooks comes to mind. Man, lets hope not.
So whats the typical time frame for a torn achilles to heal and be 100%? I was under the impression that he would miss most of 2011 season.
Under the impression or" heard"?
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rcsodak
03-03-2011, 08:08 AM
:tsk:
The sky is falling.......

The last I heard, which was by xanders last week, was rehab was going good, DT loves the game, and he WILL be back.

Ok, now back to the wailing/clawing at your eyeballs.....
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CoachChaz
03-03-2011, 09:04 AM
I'll still hold my ground and and say what I said even prior to draft day. DT and Decker will accumulate more lower body injuries than we will care to count. Never expected anything from either of them, so it's no shock or loss if they never play

rcsodak
03-03-2011, 09:06 AM
I'll still hold my ground and and say what I said even prior to draft day. DT and Decker will accumulate more lower body injuries than we will care to count. Never expected anything from either of them, so it's no shock or loss if they never play

I love your optimism.
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CoachChaz
03-03-2011, 09:08 AM
I love your optimism.
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Again...I said thi BEFORE we drafted them. So I was never optimistic that either one of them would amount to anything regardless of the team they played for. Just so happened they were both drafted by our incredible scouting department

rcsodak
03-03-2011, 09:20 AM
Again...I said thi BEFORE we drafted them. So I was never optimistic that either one of them would amount to anything regardless of the team they played for. Just so happened they were both drafted by our incredible scouting department

So what was your reasoning? Are you saying they were constantly hurt?
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Lonestar
03-03-2011, 10:47 AM
Again...I said thi BEFORE we drafted them. So I was never optimistic that either one of them would amount to anything regardless of the team they played for. Just so happened they were both drafted by our incredible scouting department

Iirc decker played in all of his games in college albeit hurt some times but only missed a few in his last season. He is a warrior how long he plays who knows but I like the kid.

As for DT iirc he missed only a few games of his last season with the broken bones in the foot.
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PAINTERDAVE
03-03-2011, 11:40 AM
Iirc decker played in all of his games in college albeit hurt some times but only missed a few in his last season. He is a warrior how long he plays who knows but I like the kid.

As for DT iirc he missed only a few games of his last season with the broken bones in the foot.
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I think Decker is healthy now... he had a couple freak injuries... injuries that should noit re-ocour.. (crosses fingers)

Thomas... on the other hand.. he missed a bunch of games over the last 3 seasons.

Nomad
03-03-2011, 11:45 AM
I'll still hold my ground and and say what I said even prior to draft day. DT and Decker will accumulate more lower body injuries than we will care to count. Never expected anything from either of them, so it's no shock or loss if they never play

So far, you've been right especially DT! BRONCOS should just stamp FRAGILE on his helmet!!