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cuzz4169
01-06-2011, 12:47 AM
Ok here is your chance to be a pro scout...Give me your rating of Tim Tebow. Here's how it works 2 is the low end 8 is the high end. Example If you think tebows Accuracy is a 3 rate it as a 3 but then the second rating is a projection where you as a scout thinks he can get to, this is still 2-8 rating scale....so for Accuracy your response would be 3/5 or 4/7 or 2/8 etc...whatever your opinion is. Remember even pro scouts have different evaluations of players. Have fun.


* Drop quickness and balance

* Set up quickness and positioning

* Release quickness

* Accuracy: short, medium and long-direction, positioning, velocity and catchability of the ball.

* Judgment and decision making

* Field Vision: quick, decisive and accurate reads. Going through progressive read options correctly.

* Poise: leadership skills, handling pressure and moving the team.

* Ball handling: selling the play action fake, smooth effort with eyes positioned downfield.

* Timing: throwing on rhythm and to pre-determined spots on time.

* Delivery: quickness and positioning of release.

* Follow through: does he finish across his body?

* Avoiding the rush: making defenders miss in the pocket.

* Escape: moving the pocket effectively to avoid pressure.

* Scrambling: ability to run and pick up positive yardage.

* Rollout passing to the right and left: can he throw accurately and with velocity without having to set his feet. Does he have arm and hip flexibility to throw the ball across his body if he is a left handed quarterback?

* Arm strength: ability to throw all routes and the ability to throw with just his arm without having to muscle the ball with his body.

* Zip: velocity and tightness of the spiral.

* Touch, timing and positioning: on screen passes and swing passes

* Effectiveness on: short out routes, deep out routes, go routes, post routes and corner routes

BroncoStud
01-06-2011, 01:09 AM
Drop: 3/5
Set Up: 4/5
Release: 2/5
Accuracy: 3/5
Judgment: 3/5
Field Vision: 4/5
Poise: 5/5
Ball Handling: 3/5
Timing: 2/5
Delivery: 3/5
Follow Through: 2/5
Avoiding the Rush: 5/5
Escape: 5/5
Scrambling: 5/5
Rollout Passing: 4/5
Arm Strength: 4/5
Zip: 4/5
Touch: 3/5
Short Routes: 3/5
Deep Routes: 3/5

robert ethan
01-06-2011, 01:11 AM
That is way too many details. My scouting report......"Gets 'er done" 5/5.

Lancane
01-06-2011, 01:19 AM
* Drop quickness and balance 3/5

* Set up quickness and positioning 3/5

* Release quickness 1/5

* Accuracy: short, medium and long-direction, positioning, velocity and catchability of the ball. 2/5

* Judgment and decision making 3/5

* Field Vision: quick, decisive and accurate reads. Going through progressive read options correctly. 2/5

* Poise: leadership skills, handling pressure and moving the team. 5/5

* Ball handling: selling the play action fake, smooth effort with eyes positioned downfield. 4/5

* Timing: throwing on rhythm and to pre-determined spots on time. 2/5

* Delivery: quickness and positioning of release. 2/5

* Follow through: does he finish across his body? 3/5

* Avoiding the rush: making defenders miss in the pocket. 5/5

* Escape: moving the pocket effectively to avoid pressure. 3/5

* Scrambling: ability to run and pick up positive yardage. 5/5

* Rollout passing to the right and left: can he throw accurately and with velocity without having to set his feet. Does he have arm and hip flexibility to throw the ball across his body if he is a left handed quarterback? 3/5

* Arm strength: ability to throw all routes and the ability to throw with just his arm without having to muscle the ball with his body. 3/5

* Zip: velocity and tightness of the spiral. 2/5

* Touch, timing and positioning: on screen passes and swing passes 3/5

* Effectiveness on: short out routes, deep out routes, go routes, post routes and corner routes 3/5

cuzz4169
01-06-2011, 01:22 AM
I see a lot of 5's...You don't think he's an 8 in leadership? the scale is 2-8

Simple Jaded
01-06-2011, 03:55 AM
"* Avoiding the rush: making defenders miss in the pocket. 5/5

* Scrambling: ability to run and pick up positive yardage. 5/5"

If Tebow is a 5, what is Michael Vick and Vince Young? At best Tebow is a Donovan McNabb on a scale of Orton to Vick.......

underrated29
01-06-2011, 12:38 PM
are we basing this off of his 2 starts, or his college work also?? because that will seriously scew my numbers.

cuzz4169
01-06-2011, 02:10 PM
are we basing this off of his 2 starts, or his college work also?? because that will seriously scew my numbers.

Base it off of his NFL play...up to you really.

Zweems56
01-06-2011, 02:12 PM
I see a lot of 5's...You don't think he's an 8 in leadership? the scale is 2-8

There are a lot of 5's because they chose to use a x/5 scale. Why 2-8 anyway? Seems like an..... odd choice of numbers to me.

underrated29
01-06-2011, 02:23 PM
* Drop quickness and balance

* Set up quickness and positioning

* Release quickness

* Accuracy: short, medium and long-direction, positioning, velocity and catchability of the ball.

* Judgment and decision making

* Field Vision: quick, decisive and accurate reads. Going through progressive read options correctly.

* Poise: leadership skills, handling pressure and moving the team.

* Ball handling: selling the play action fake, smooth effort with eyes positioned downfield.

* Timing: throwing on rhythm and to pre-determined spots on time.

* Delivery: quickness and positioning of release.

* Follow through: does he finish across his body?

* Avoiding the rush: making defenders miss in the pocket.

* Escape: moving the pocket effectively to avoid pressure.

* Scrambling: ability to run and pick up positive yardage.

* Rollout passing to the right and left: can he throw accurately and with velocity without having to set his feet. Does he have arm and hip flexibility to throw the ball across his body if he is a left handed quarterback?

* Arm strength: ability to throw all routes and the ability to throw with just his arm without having to muscle the ball with his body.

* Zip: velocity and tightness of the spiral.

* Touch, timing and positioning: on screen passes and swing passes

* Effectiveness on: short out routes, deep out routes, go routes, post routes and corner routes



ok, Im going to pretend I have only seen his 2 starts then, here is how I grade.


drop/balance-3/6

Set up- 4/6

Release speed- 2/4

Accuracy- 3/7

Judgement- 6/8

Field Vision- 3/7

Poise- 8/8

Play action- 3/6

Timing- 4/7

Delivery- 2/5

Follow through- Cant remember-have to check the tapes

Avoiding rush- 7/8

Escape- 7/8

Scrambling- 8/8

Rollout passing- 5/7

Arm Strength- 6.5/6.5

Zip- 4/7

Touch- 7/8

Effectiveness on routes- 6/8



There you have it....Based only off of his couple starts..Not very good. imo, but I was did not take pre season or college or anything else into consideration.

topscribe
01-06-2011, 02:26 PM
are we basing this off of his 2 starts, or his college work also?? because that will seriously scew my numbers.

What did you mean to write there, "skew" or "screw"? :D

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underrated29
01-06-2011, 03:20 PM
What did you mean to write there, "skew" or "screw"? :D

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A little of Column A and a little of Column B

cuzz4169
01-06-2011, 03:28 PM
There are a lot of 5's because they chose to use a x/5 scale. Why 2-8 anyway? Seems like an..... odd choice of numbers to me.

The scouts I know use 2-8 or 20-80........5 is the average anything below 4 is minus.....4.5 is fringe avg...5.5 is above avg....6.0 is plus...anything 7 or over is plus plus...remember I coach college baseball but I don't think it could be much different for football same concept.

Tried to explain it better for ya.

I Eat Staples
01-06-2011, 04:08 PM
Drop quickness and balance - 3/6

Set up quickness and positioning - 3/6

Release quickness - 3/5

Accuracy - 3/4

Judgment and decision making - 2/5

Field Vision - 2/5

Poise - 4/8

Ball handling - 3/6

Timing - 2/5

Delivery - 2/4

Follow through - ?

Avoiding the rush - 3/6

Escape - 7/8

Scrambling - 7/8

Rollout passing to the right and left - 3/5

Arm strength - 5/5

Zip - 2/4

Touch, timing and positioning - 3/5

Effectiveness on: short out routes, deep out routes, go routes, post routes and corner routes - 3/5

And for those who are confused by the format, the first number is supposed to be where he's at currently, and the second number is what you think he can develop into.