Vince Young Done in Tennessee

[camdisco24]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5993142

Looks like Jeff Fisher might be back after all??

[Northman]

Looks like Carolina will be getting a call from them too next to Buff, Jax, and SF. If Carolina doesnt want Luck they will make out like bandits this draft.

[Dirk]

I can't believe the guy on 87.7 (sorry don't know their names) wants VY in Denver to back up Tebow. Ugh...no thanks! Head case can go somewhere else!

[Northman]

Yea, if Tenn is smart they are already calling Carolina or one of the other teams to try and trade Young.

[Juriga72]

I can't believe the guy on 87.7 (sorry don't know their names) wants VY in Denver to back up Tebow. Ugh...no thanks! Head case can go somewhere else!

WTF????? He quit twice on his own team now..... yikes

[Dreadnought]

I can't believe the guy on 87.7 (sorry don't know their names) wants VY in Denver to back up Tebow. Ugh...no thanks! Head case can go somewhere else!

The list of teams stupid enough to waste their time on this dud ought to be pretty short, but there is always Washington out there, willing and ready to get fleeced as long as Snyder calls the shots.

My head would explode if he came to Denver

[Dapper Dan]

I've always kind of liked Young, and I've always hated the Titans.

Personally, I would like to see Vince Young in Minnesota. I think he's still better than Webb and Jackson. Young wouldn't have too much pressure with a good RB, WRs, and defense.

I really don't know where he will end up. There are a lot of teams that need a starting quarterback. I'm sure Oakland will start a 3 or 4 man quarterback rotation. It would be like a baseball pitching rotation. Pick up Orton and put him in the Bullpen. Or am I the only one that noticed they can't settle on quarterback?

Good Luck to Vince Young wherever he goes. I hope he gets his career on track.

[UrbanBounca]

I think TN is the problem, not Young.
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[Magnificent Seven]

I can't believe the guy on 87.7 (sorry don't know their names) wants VY in Denver to back up Tebow. Ugh...no thanks! Head case can go somewhere else!

It would be nice to have Vince Young on our team.


# 1 Tebow

# 2 Young

# Quinn

[Juriga72]

It would be nice to have Vince Young on our team.


# 1 Tebow

# 2 Young

#3- Chemotherapy

THAT might work out better for us.....

[atwater27]

Vince Young sucks. He was overrated horribly when he was drafted. Just another running QB with subpar passing and defense -reading skills.

[zbeg]

Vince Young sucks. He was overrated horribly when he was drafted. Just another running QB with subpar passing and defense -reading skills.

AND he's lazy AND he's a headcase.

Here's what I wrote about VY before the 2006 draft (April 14th):

Vince Young is a bust. Young has been the golden child his whole football life, being a superstar in high school and college. Now that he's taking criticism over his throwing motion and footwork and his Wonderlic test, he's whining about being disrespected. Boo-(censored)-hoo, Vince. Welcome to the NFL. Hey, remember when early on in your college career, when your coaches tried to make your mechanics consistent and you didn't respond well to it? Well, that's going to haunt you now.

Let's just recap Vince Young, NFL passer:

- Had to have the base offense designed around him in the shotgun because he was too slow at reading defenses directly under center,

- Despite his height (6'5"), he had to roll out of the pocket to find passing lanes because he throws the ball like a guy five inches shorter,

- If he throws 40 different passes, he'll have about 25 different release points.

- When you are a pocket passer, bad footwork will do you in. When you roll out of the pocket all the time (because of, oh say, sucky release points which make you have to run around to find passing lanes), crappy footwork will kill you. KILL you.

Yay, he had a great Rose Bowl. Yippee. He can run well. Woohah. So he's a weak-armed, slower version of Michael Vick who isn't as accurate a passer (and if you didn't notice, Vick isn't exactly Steve Young in the accuracy department). He's a bust. He's a bust bust bust bust bust bust bust. I'd be thrilled if the Raiders took him. Anyone who takes him over Leinart is a moron. Hell, anyone who takes him over Cutler is a moron. I'd take Vince Young in the draft -- in about the third round. That's what I think of Vince Young.

Absolutely no surprises here. All of his problems were fairly predictable. Bust bust bust bust bust bust bust. I want him far, far away from the Denver Broncos.

[BroncoWave]

Vince Young is 26-13 as a starter. He will catch on somewhere. You don't have that kind of record as a starter without doing something right.

[atwater27]

Vince Young is 26-13 as a starter. He will catch on somewhere. You don't have that kind of record as a starter without doing something right.

It's called good coaching, a stout defense and a great running game.

[zbeg]

Vince Young is 26-13 as a starter. He will catch on somewhere. You don't have that kind of record as a starter without doing something right.

Like happen to be on a team with great coaching, a good defense, and a 2000 yard rusher? :-)

His career average is something like 15 completions for 160 yards and a touchdown. He's easily replaceable. VY is the most overrated QB in recent NFL history.

[BroncoWave]

It's called good coaching, a stout defense and a great running game.

In 2009 he had the same coaching, running game, and defense all season. They were 0-6 without him and 8-2 with him that season.

And that "great coaching" has had 6 winning seasons and 1 super bowl appearance in 17 seasons. He's pretty overrated if you ask me. He's a solid coach who never lets them get horrible but that's about it.

[zbeg]

In 2009 he had the same coaching, running game, and defense all season. They were 0-6 without him and 8-2 with him that season.

They also had a ton of injuries the first part of the season, and the 8-2 happened to coincide with their team getting healthy.

[BroncoWave]

So you people ran Cutler out of town because he didn't win enough games, are now running Orton out for the same reason, but VY is 26-13 and he sucks too. Gotcha!

[zbeg]

So you people ran Cutler out of town because he didn't win enough games, are now running Orton out for the same reason, but VY is 26-13 and he sucks too. Gotcha!

Hey, I think Orton's a fine QB. Don't pin that one on me. I can look at a QB in the context of his team - and when I watch VY "lead" the Titans to victory when he completes nine passes, it's obvious that he's just been a caretaker on a pretty good team and little else. If Orton had the kind of running game and defense that the Titans have had in recent years, his win/loss record would have been quite good.

I'd have Orton a million times over (or Cutler) before Vince Young. Not even close.

[atwater27]

So you people ran Cutler out of town because he didn't win enough games, are now running Orton out for the same reason, but VY is 26-13 and he sucks too. Gotcha!

wow. you can justify pretty much any comparison if you try. Hey, did you hear Barry Switzer won a super bowl? and Trent Dilfer?

[Dapper Dan]

Last season 10 TDs 3 Ints and almost 100 QB rating.
It would be nice if he had consistency. He starts and then he don't.
I would just like to see what he could do with a different team. And all the other stuff, The media has blown everything up. I don't think he has any issues. He just needs a coach that doesn't have to be threatened by the owner to be a starter.

I feel like he is better than some starting QBs in the NFL.

[zbeg]

I don't think he has any issues.

No?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3584636
http://www.khou.com/sports/Vince-Young-loses-job-throws-shoulder-pads-Titans-fall-to-Redskins-109762809.html

Can you imagine Peyton Manning or Tom Brady acting like that? Or Tim Tebow?



I feel like he is better than some starting QBs in the NFL.

I agree that he's better than the Alex Smiths and the John Skeltons of the world. He's not the absolute worst. Maybe 25th best among current NFL starters right now. And that's when he's not throwing a temper tantrum.

[Northman]

Last season 10 TDs 3 Ints and almost 100 QB rating.
It would be nice if he had consistency. He starts and then he don't.
I would just like to see what he could do with a different team. And all the other stuff, The media has blown everything up. I don't think he has any issues. He just needs a coach that doesn't have to be threatened by the owner to be a starter.

I feel like he is better than some starting QBs in the NFL.


You know, i kind of like Young as well but its hard for me to take your post seriously when you cant identify that he indeed has issues. Firstly, he disappears and then is on a suicide watch. Then, later this year tosses his gear into the stands as he pouts his way to the lockerroom. Those right there are red flags if i ever saw one.

Can he be a good QB? Probably and at times has shown to be pretty good. But he is also very inconsistent but maybe a new start is what he needs. But please dont sit here and tell me that he doesnt have issues. He most certainly does.

[Dapper Dan]

He mentioned suicide? Has he attempted anything? Does he have any cuts on his arms?

I've mentioned suicide before. I've thought about it before. Do I have issues? I don't think so. I seem to be over it and so does he.

Did Brees have shoulder issues? Yes he did. Does he seem to be over it? Yes.
I am by no means comparing Young's ability at quarterback to Brees' ability. I know someone will assume that. I'm saying people get over their problems.

The other 'issue'. Young threw his Jersey in the stands after the game? Do you think Kyle Turley or Brandon Jacobs are full of issues?

It seams to me that Young and Fisher never got along. Young should have done what the rest of the players do in the NFL and ask to be traded. He shouldn't have went out and played for a coach that didn't like him and fans that didn't want him. He should have cried like a baby and told everyone he wanted out of Tennessee, but he didn't. That's the only issue I see.

If you don't take my post seriously then don't comment. That should solve that issue.

*throws t-shirt across the room*

[Northman]

He mentioned suicide? Has he attempted anything? Does he have any cuts on his arms?

I've mentioned suicide before. I've thought about it before. Do I have issues? I don't think so. I seem to be over it and so does he.

Did Brees have shoulder issues? Yes he did. Does he seem to be over it? Yes.
I am by no means comparing Young's ability at quarterback to Brees' ability. I know someone will assume that. I'm saying people get over their problems.

The other 'issue'. Young threw his Jersey in the stands after the game? Do you think Kyle Turley or Brandon Jacobs are full of issues?

It seams to me that Young and Fisher never got along. Young should have done what the rest of the players do in the NFL and ask to be traded. He shouldn't have went out and played for a coach that didn't like him and fans that didn't want him. He should have cried like a baby and told everyone he wanted out of Tennessee, but he didn't. That's the only issue I see.

If you don't take my post seriously then don't comment. That should solve that issue.

*throws t-shirt across the room*

He didnt throw his jersey, he threw his shoulderpads. But either way its not the type of behavior that a leader should do and Fisher promptly pointed that out. As far as commenting on your sillyness, yes i will continue to do so. But for some reason i thought you might be a better poster than that. My bad. :lol:

[Dapper Dan]

He didnt throw his jersey, he threw his shoulderpads. But either way its not the type of behavior that a leader should do and Fisher promptly pointed that out. As far as commenting on your sillyness, yes i will continue to do so. But for some reason i thought you might be a better poster than that. My bad. :lol:

That type of behavior? That's the only time that I know of that he did anything like that. It's not like he has a history of misbehavior. He let his emotions get the better of him. Has he ever throw any part of his uniform in the stands before or since?

And it's okay. We all make mistakes. You just scouted me wrong. I'm a bust.

[zbeg]

He mentioned suicide? Has he attempted anything? Does he have any cuts on his arms?

I've mentioned suicide before. I've thought about it before. Do I have issues? I don't think so. I seem to be over it and so does he.



Did you do it instead of showing up to work? That's what VY did. Also, let's not forget when Vince Young was booed, then benched himself because his feelings were hurt, and had to be convinced to go back into the game.



Did Brees have shoulder issues? Yes he did. Does he seem to be over it? Yes.
I am by no means comparing Young's ability at quarterback to Brees' ability. I know someone will assume that. I'm saying people get over their problems.


? I have no idea what Vince's shoulder has to do with anything. I don't think injury risk is a major concern with Vince Young, shoulder or otherwise.



The other 'issue'. Young threw his Jersey in the stands after the game? Do you think Kyle Turley or Brandon Jacobs are full of issues?


No, the other issue is that he didn't do what his coaches asked him to do. He was too hurt to play, but Vince Young got SO UPSET that he threw his pads into the stands, then interrupted his coach after the game, THEN walked out during the team meeting.

It's a temper tantrum. An adult who's supposed to be the leader of your team threw a temper tantrum. Like I said, could you ever imagine Tim Tebow behaving that way?

[atwater27]

It seams to me that Young and Fisher never got along. *

No, Fisher was just frustrated that his owner forced the team to draft the guy, and that he was forced to start a shitty QB for several seasons.

[Mike]

Young's talent isn't in question. His 2 cent head is.

[Dreadnought]

No?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3584636
http://www.khou.com/sports/Vince-Young-loses-job-throws-shoulder-pads-Titans-fall-to-Redskins-109762809.html

Can you imagine Peyton Manning or Tom Brady acting like that? Or Tim Tebow?




I agree that he's better than the Alex Smiths and the John Skeltons of the world. He's not the absolute worst. Maybe 25th best among current NFL starters right now. And that's when he's not throwing a temper tantrum.

I'm not sure I can buy that last statement. He may in fact be the worst. In any event, its kind of like trying to decide if Marlon McRee or Calvin Lowry were more awful as safeties; you don't want either one anywhere near your roster no matter which is the "better".

[MNPatsFan]

VY may be one of the most physically talented and gifted QBs in the NFL, but everyone has failed to mention that according to numerous reports and comments from NFL sources (present and former players, teammates, coaches, and front office personnel) VY has a HORRIBLE work ethic! There have been too many reports to count of VY putting in 9-5 days going through the motions and failing to do proper film study, work on his mechanics, etc. That is why VY is not a good team leader. That is also probably the primary reason he is not a very good or efficient passer.

I think this may be the best thing to happen to VY because maybe he will change his ways, finally become professional and treat football like a full-time job. Michale Vick is the poster person for someone who did this, while Jamarcus Russell is the poster person for someone who so far has refused to do so.

[Ravage!!!]

He's a great athlete, not a good QB. Just not a good QB at all.

But I'm saying it now...... Oakland signs this guy. We'll be playing against VY for a few more years.

[MNPatsFan]

He's a great athlete, not a good QB. Just not a good QB at all.Not sure if this was responding to my post or not, but if it was .. I never said he was a good QB. He is physically gifted and talented, but hasn't put in the effort and work to even try making himself into a good well-rounded QB.

[zbeg]

He's a great athlete, not a good QB. Just not a good QB at all.

But I'm saying it now...... Oakland signs this guy. We'll be playing against VY for a few more years.

I welcome a Vince Young signing in Oakland. I would loove to face this guy for a few more years.

[Ravage!!!]

Not sure if this was responding to my post or not, but if it was .. I never said he was a good QB. He is physically gifted and talented, but hasn't put in the effort and work to even try making himself into a good well-rounded QB.

Nah. not really responding to anyone, just making a general comment. The guy is a great athlete, but I just wasn't impressed with his QB skills coming ou of college, and have not been impressed with his skills in the NFL.

Its just one of those cases where a running QB succeeds in college, and can't make it in th NFL as a passer.