Bengals re-sign Marvin Lewis

[BroncoWave]

8 years, no playoff wins, gets a one year extension. I can only hope to ever find a job with that kind of job security!

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King, I am laughing at you, not with you.

[Poet]

King, I am laughing at you, not with you.

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Just kidding, my robust friend.

[UnderArmour]

Erm, before Marvin Lewis the Bengals were awful. This extension is actually good for both parties.

[Poet]

Erm, before Marvin Lewis the Bengals were awful. This extension is actually good for both parties.

No it's not. He's a bad coach. The past three drafts have had his fingerprints all over them. He can' manage the clock, he is amongst the worst when it comes to challenge conversions and his teams never succeed consistently.

Marvin Lewis is a defensive guy. He's a talent evaluator, and a good one. He's a good person that relates with players. In short, he's a GM acting as a head coach.

Mike Brown has hindered him a lot, but in short the past three years Mike Brown has been an average owner.

I am not happy. There are rumors that in order for Marvin Lewis to return MB had to have been willing to make a lot of concessions and meet ML's demands.

We'll see.

[dogfish]

No it's not. He's a bad coach. The past three drafts have had his fingerprints all over them. He can' manage the clock, he is amongst the worst when it comes to challenge conversions and his teams never succeed consistently.

Marvin Lewis is a defensive guy. He's a talent evaluator, and a good one. He's a good person that relates with players. In short, he's a GM acting as a head coach.

Mike Brown has hindered him a lot, but in short the past three years Mike Brown has been an average owner.

I am not happy. There are rumors that in order for Marvin Lewis to return MB had to have been willing to make a lot of concessions and meet ML's demands.

We'll see.

i knew you hated it as soon as i saw it, but from a neutral perspective, just remember that this doesn't have to end horrible. . . you didn't hire bobby petrino or cam cameron. . . you guys swept the division under marv just last year, come on. . .

i do understand why you'd want a change after a lot of mediocre overall results and no playoff wins followed by this, but-- give mike brown some of the blame, too. . . wait and see what lewis's "demands" were-- maybe it's no more andre smith, pacman jones types, please give us the money to hire as many good scouts as the top teams do, and update our practice facilities. . . not unreasonable, or detrimental to the club. . .

if marv's weaknesses are known, he and the organization need to take steps to compensate-- in this case, strengthening the offensive staff looks like a good idea. . . quite frankly, i think your whole offense needs kinda blown up. . . i don't mean josh mcdaniels-level blown up (nobody does dumb shit like that), but you might need to look at another quarterback, another philosophy, maybe another running back with some speed. . . and possibly at least one less aging diva WR. . .

you've got high picks through all the rounds. . . draft well, give it a year or two, and it could turn around pretty quick. . . i do think you need to look really hard at taking a QB with your top pick this year. . .

[Poet]

i knew you hated it as soon as i saw it, but from a neutral perspective, just remember that this doesn't have to end horrible. . . you didn't hire bobby petrino or cam cameron. . . you guys swept the division under marv just last year, come on. . .

Ending horribly or in a mediocre fashion is the same in the NFL. It's such a league of parody that if you can't win a playoff game in 8 years it's hard to like you as a coach.



i do understand why you'd want a change after a lot of mediocre overall results and no playoff wins followed by this, but-- give mike brown some of the blame, too. . . wait and see what lewis's "demands" were-- maybe it's no more andre smith, pacman jones types, please give us the money to hire as many good scouts as the top teams do, and update our practice facilities. . . not unreasonable, or detrimental to the club. . .

I know what the demands are. I've know what the demands are for years. Cincinnati fans know what the demands are. The players know what the demands are.

Mike Brown pays himself one million dollars a year to be the team's GM. The one scout on the team is related to him. Almost all high ranking people on the team or organization are related to him.

I can go on and on for days. Trust me, I hate Mike Brown. He took a once proud franchise that his father, a LEGEND in the business created and shit all over it. He crapped on my home town year after year.

He is a problem. However the past three years he's taken some risks, but not unintelligent ones.

The problem is that ML has had heavy hands on the past three or even four draft classes.

ML isn't losing games because of TO, Pacman or Tank Johnson. He's losing games because he can't make second half adjustments. He can't manage the clock, he can't challenge plays correctly, he can't keep a team focused.

Mike Brown has an eye for cheap and troubled talent, but let's be fair. Chris Henry, Cedric Benson, Pacman and Tank Johnson have all worked out for us. T.O. was having an elite year before he hurt his knee.

On that list I gave you, there are two players I don't hate. One is a guy that I really like, Chris Henry, and one is a guy that I can tolerate, Cedric Benson.






if marv's weaknesses are known, he and the organization need to take steps to compensate-- in this case, strengthening the offensive staff looks like a good idea. . . quite frankly, i think your whole offense needs kinda blown up. . . i don't mean josh mcdaniels-level blown up (nobody does dumb shit like that), but you might need to look at another quarterback, another philosophy, maybe another running back with some speed. . . and possibly at least one less aging diva WR. . .

you've got high picks through all the rounds. . . draft well, give it a year or two, and it could turn around pretty quick. . . i do think you need to look really hard at taking a QB with your top pick this year. . .

The problem is that you're operating from a normal stand or view point. That's not how the Bengals are ran.

Brat will be back as an OC. He is the worst OC in football by far. I hit a streak of calling twenty straight plays of his. I do it almost every game. I've been doing that since 2005.

Brat was only successful when Palmer was the third best QB in football and we had the best offensive line in football. Any OC can be successful when they have three Pro Bowlers on the OL and a QB who is in the top five for everything for a QB.

That being said, Brat will come back.

Also, I promise you we aren't taking a QB. Mike Brown is going to pay a lot of money to Palmer this year, whether we cut him or not. BEcause of that, Palmer will be the starter, so to take another QB high in the draft means two top dollar players at ONE position.

Mike Brown is having a hard time deciding if he wants to keep even ONE of our elite corners. You do the math (irony) on the odds of him taking an early QB.

As far as turning it around after some time, that's what we've been doing for the past twenty years.

Did you know that Mike Brown is the fastest owner in football history to get to the impressive 200 LOSS benchmark? Since he took over for his dad, the Mike Brown led Bengals have a stellar .400 wining percentage, two playoff berths and no playoff wins.

I know, I know, this isn't all on Marvin, but let's take another look.

Last year the Bengals surprised the league and won one of the best divisions in football.

They boasted the best corner tandem in football by far, a robust running game and a defense that denied running backs yards.

That team, which got better in the offseason, came out and has two wins.

Are you kidding me?

I've watched his teams blow countless fourth quarter wins. I've watched him loss no less than 20 games with his managing of the clock.

MB is the biggest problem for us, but all ML is is another poor choice.

[UrbanBounca]

Erm, before Marvin Lewis the Bengals were awful. This extension is actually good for both parties.

Erm, currently with Marvin Lewis, they're still awful. This is not good for the Bengals organization.