NFL Cuts to look at.......

[WARHORSE]

If you know a player that was cut off another squad, and think it might help to bring em in, share what you think...

Couple of guys I see just at the moment: Kenton Keith of Indy was cut....he was the backup to Addai, and the man runs very hard.

Jerome McDougal, who has struggled with injuries since being drafted, (not his fault someone walked up and shot him in the gut) is a DT who was having his best preseason to date....former Fleagulls first rounder.


Larry Tripplett was cut by Seattle......once again, an able bodied DT that has played extensively in the 4-3 and done well.


Those are just a couple.................OH and UH...........


ASHLIE LELIE............. believe it or not, if the man has come back to earth since leaving here...........I think Id take him over Colbert simply because of his deep speed with Jays arm here to chuck it downfield.

OK...bring the tomatoes on that last one....Im ready.:coffee:

[WARHORSE]

BTW..........john Gruden is one dirty dude. They should have let Simms go a long time ago.

I'd love to sign him to the practice squad or something like that, and train him under Shanny..............

[slim]

Willie Anderson?

[Lonestar]

BTW..........john Gruden is one dirty dude. They should have let Simms go a long time ago.

I'd love to sign him to the practice squad or something like that, and train him under Shanny..............

I think his PS time has exprired..

[Lonestar]

anyone see decent safeties out there we need at least TWO..

[dogfish]

my top priority would be offering dre moore a spot on our practice squad. . . for those who don't know, moore is a DT from maryland that was drafted by tampa in the 4th round. . . he's a one-gap penetrator with very good quickness and athletic ability. . . he was pretty inconsistent in college, and considered something of a project, but he has major upside if a team can get it out of him. . . i wasn't especially high on drafting him due to his questionable motor, but given the state of our pass rush and our general lack of quality depth at DT, i'd absolutely take a chance on him on the PS. . . it's a low-risk, high-reward type of move. . . .

[broncobryce]

I agree on Ashley Lelie, but ONLY if he really has come down to earth. I don't think Shanahan would do it though. Burned bridges....

[Stargazer]

ASHLIE LELIE............. believe it or not, if the man has come back to earth since leaving here...........I think Id take him over Colbert simply because of his deep speed with Jays arm here to chuck it downfield.

OK...bring the tomatoes on that last one....Im ready.:coffee:

Ashlie can stuff it.

[BroncoTech]

Ashlie Lelie?
Only if Quitterson isn't available and we REALLY need a water boy.

His problem is he can only run the streak, he never posted up across the middle. Ashlie did absolutely nothing in SF and played poorly. When was the last time you personally saw this deep speed, because even the greatest lose a step over the course of a few years and he was never a move guy.

Also our deep threats are our tight ends and slots that sneak down the middle seam real stealth like. We have guys that can run the streak all day long as a decoy to open that guy up going down the seam.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Did I see that Rudi Johnson was released as well? I saw his name scroll across teh screen w/ Lelie and Anderson. He'd be intriguing.

[omac]

anyone see decent safeties out there we need at least TWO..

You mean for depth? Unless you don't like McCree and Manuel, who seemed pretty good.

[Lonestar]

You mean for depth? Unless you don't like McCree and Manuel, who seemed pretty good.


The key here is seemed pretty good in preseason, playing pure vanilla offenses and as a D..

Both were cut by their old teams cause they had better players to replace them with.. one was from SAN.. That speaks volumes by itself..

[omac]

Any DE prospects? We need a pass rush.

[Lonestar]

Any DE prospects? We need a pass rush.


this is an understatement at best.. with Dumervil out we are hurting for certain..

[omac]

The key here is seemed pretty good in preseason, playing pure vanilla offenses and as a D..

Both were cut by their old teams cause they had better players to replace them with.. one was from SAN.. That speaks volumes by itself..

Actually, McCree's been pretty consistent. SD just keeps drafting young guys to replace the guys starting to get older. As great as Merriman is, they don't plan on keeping him, and are already grooming his replacement.

[DenBronx]

Rudi Johnson and Chris Simms are the only guys i'd like us to bring in. Ramsey is a debacle....I don't know why he's even a Bronco still.

[DenBronx]

Actually, McCree's been pretty consistent. SD just keeps drafting young guys to replace the guys starting to get older. As great as Merriman is, they don't plan on keeping him, and are already grooming his replacement.

Nothin wrong with Mcree. In fact if Lynch can't beat him out then that says alot. I think we're fine at safety.

[Lonestar]

Actually, McCree's been pretty consistent. SD just keeps drafting young guys to replace the guys starting to get older. As great as Merriman is, they don't plan on keeping him, and are already grooming his replacement.


I'll still hope they use a #2/3 next year to get a top notch Safety.. this team has had an enforcer over the middle for as Long as I can remember.. Right now I do not think any of them are.. tough guys..

[Lonestar]

Nothin wrong with Mcree. In fact if Lynch can't beat him out then that says alot. I think we're fine at safety.

Lynch leaving was forgone conclusion mikey wanted him gone made no real effort to resign him till Pat stepped in and forced his hand.. He wanted to move on and by signing two FA however mediocre they were made it plain to everyone his intentions and to make matters worse he drafted another one may two if you think that woodyard was a converted safety in college..

[dogfish]

Any DE prospects? We need a pass rush.

andy studebaker or dan bazuin. . .

both are undersized, small-school guys. . . bazuin was a 2nd round pick of the bears last year, which i thought was too high for him. . . he's a guy that's better known for a relentless motor and college production than top speed or athletic ability. . . studebaker was signed by the iggles as a UDFA i believe-- he was tagged as a guy that should move to LB in the pros because he's only 6'3" 255. . . ran a 4.55 40 at the combine, so his speed speaks for itself. . . he had 17.5 sacks his junior year. . . he's too light in the pants to play end full time, but i'd absolutely give him a look on the PS as a pass rush specialist. . . maybe we catch lightning in a bottle again and he's another dumervil. . .

also, if we want to sign somebody to the 53-man roster to use in that capacity, the texans cut rosevelt colvin-- he's played LB his whole career, but they were lining him up at end and using him that way. . . is he any better than what we have? i have no idea. . . just bringing his name up because you asked. . .

[DenBronx]

Lynch leaving was forgone conclusion mikey wanted him gone made no real effort to resign him till Pat stepped in and forced his hand.. He wanted to move on and by signing two FA however mediocre they were made it plain to everyone his intentions and to make matters worse he drafted another one may two if you think that woodyard was a converted safety in college..

again, mcree out performed lynch in camp. even last year many thought nelson was going to be drafted instead of moss because of the need at safety. mike was willing to give lynch a shot but made it clear that the best players were going to start. so if lynch couldnt beat out mcree then that either says mcree is a pretty good safety or lynch is just old and past his prime. im going to say it was a little of both because from what ive seen of mcree so far has been good.

i think we will pick mlb and s with rounds 1 and 2 next year in the draft.

[omac]

andy studebaker or dan bazuin. . .

both are undersized, small-school guys. . . bazuin was a 2nd round pick of the bears last year, which i thought was too high for him. . . he's a guy that's better known for a relentless motor and college production than top speed or athletic ability. . . studebaker was signed by the iggles as a UDFA i believe-- he was tagged as a guy that should move to LB in the pros because he's only 6'3" 255. . . ran a 4.55 40 at the combine, so his speed speaks for itself. . . he had 17.5 sacks his junior year. . . he's too light in the pants to play end full time, but i'd absolutely give him a look on the PS as a pass rush specialist. . . maybe we catch lightning in a bottle again and he's another dumervil. . .

also, if we want to sign somebody to the 53-man roster to use in that capacity, the texans cut rosevelt colvin-- he's played LB his whole career, but they were lining him up at end and using him that way. . . is he any better than what we have? i have no idea. . . just bringing his name up because you asked. . .

Interesting. Maybe not Colvin as he's starting to get up there. Maybe we can take a look at Studebaker.

If only our undrafted defensive players could play like our undrafted RBs.

[red98]

ASHLIE LELIE............. believe it or not, if the man has come back to earth since leaving here...........I think Id take him over Colbert simply because of his deep speed with Jays arm here to chuck it downfield.

OK...bring the tomatoes on that last one....Im ready.

NO, no you didn't? really?

Oh man.

Shanny's dog house is a cold, cold place...

and there aint no comming back...

[LoyalSoldier]

Couple of guys I see just at the moment: Kenton Keith of Indy was cut....he was the backup to Addai, and the man runs very hard.

Hell no to Kenton Keith. I have seen enough Indy games to know he isn't worth it.

[Lonestar]

BUFFALO BILLS
TE Courtney Anderson, DB Will James, LB Donnie Spragan, LB Jon Banks, LB Marcus Buggs, LB Blake Costanzo, OL Dustin Dickinson, OT Patrick Estes, FB Jonathan Evansm, OL Robert Felton, DB Dustin Fox, OL Christian Gaddis, RB Bruce Hall, WR Felton Huggins, DT Jason Jefferson, DE Derrick Jones, DT Corey Mace, TE Tim Massaquoi, WR Scott Mayle, OL Nevin McCaskill, DT Teraz McCray, RB Dwayne Wright

MIAMI DOLPHINS
DB Will Billingsley, LB Titus Brown, DB Courtney Bryan, OL Mike Byrne, WR Jayson Foster, LB Maurice Fountain, LB Junior Glymph, OL Daren Heerspink, RB Lex Hilliard, FB Reagan Mauia, LB Edmond Miles, TE Matthew Mulligan, LB Kelly Poppinga, OL Pedro Sosa, OL Matt Spanos, DL Anthony Toribio, TE Justin Peelle

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
DB Fernando Bryant, QB Matt Gutierrez, DB Jason Webster, DL Titus Adams, DL Santonio Thomas, DB Mike Richardson, TE Tyson DeVree, DB Mark Dillard, OL Mike Flynnn, RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis, LB Victor Hobson, LB Vince Redd, OL Stephen Sene, DB Antwain Spann, OL John Welbourn

NEW YORK JETS
RB Jehuu Caulcrick, TE Jason Pociask, TE A.J. Schable, WR David Ball, WR Larry Brackins, WR Paul Raymond, OL Jacob Bender, OL Stanley Daniels, OL Kyle DeVan, OL Nate Garner, OL Matt McChesney, DL Thomas Johnson, DL Bryan Mattison, DL Ropati Pitoitua, LB Blair Phillips, LB Brandon Renkart, DB Rudy Burgess, DB James Ihedigbo

PITTSBURGH STEELERS
LB Patrick Bailey, WR/KR Eddie Drummond, P Paul Ernster, FB Billy Latsko, OL Doug Legursky, OL Matt Lentz, DB Roy Lewis, DB Grant Mason, DL Ryan McBean, OL Jeremy Parquet, DL Scott Paxson, DL Jordan Reffett, WR Willie Reid, WR Micah Rucker, TE Dezmond Sherrod, TE Lee Vickers, RB Justin Vincent, DB Travis Williams, LB Arnold Harrison, LB Mike Humpal, DB Ryan Mundy

BALTIMORE RAVENS
TE Adam Bergen, QB Casey Bramlet, DL Darrell Campbell, WR Patrick Carter, OL Adrien Clarke, DL Amon Gordon, WR Justin Harper, RB Alex Haynes, TE Keith Heinrich, OL Adam Kraus, LB Robert McCune, RB Allen Patrick, CB Ronnie Prude, OL Joe Reitz, OL Chad Slaughter, LB Gary Stills, WR Ernie Wheelwright, DL Lorenzo Williams, WR Matt Willis

CINCINNATI BENGALS
OL Willie Anderson, RB Rudi Johnson, TE Nate Lawrie, LB Jim Maxwell, DB Deltha O'Neal, LB Ahmad Brooks, DL Antwon Burton, DB John Busing, DL Eric Henderson, QB Jeff Rowe, OL Nate Livings, OL Dane Uperesa, OL James Blair, DL Angelo Craig, LB Anthony Hoke, LB Dan Howell, RB James Johnson, WR Clyde Logan, WR Maurice Purify, WR Mario Urrutia

CLEVELAND BROWNS
TE Brad Cieslak, DB A.J. Davis, WR Efrem Hill, TE Kolomona Kapanui, DB Travis Key, OL James Lee, WR Lance Leggett, LB David McMillan, DB Brandon Mitchell, LB Chase Ortiz, OL Jonathan Palmer, DB Jereme Perry, DL Melila Purcell, K Jason Reda, WR Steve Sanders, WR Travis Wilson, LB Shantee Orr, OL Derrick Morse, OL Marvin Philip, DL Chase Pittman, RB Travis Thomas

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
WR Devin Aromashodu, DL Joe Bradley, DL Jeff Charleston, DB Brannon Condren, DL Dan Davis, OL Tala Esera, DL Colin Ferrell, DB Brandon Foster, WR Sam Giguere, QB Quinn Gray, DL Ben Ishola, WR Onrea Jones, RB Kenton Keith, QB Jared Lorenzen, OT Darren Marquez, LB Kyle Shotwell, RB Chad Simpson, TE Tyrice Thompson, OT Michael Toudouze, LB Victor Worsley

HOUSTON TEXANS
FB Jon Abbate, QB Shane Boyd, QB Alex Brink, LB Kevis Coley, DL Rosevelt Colvin, DB Glenn Earl, OL Greg Eslinger, DB Jamar Fletcher, WR Darnell Jenkins, TE Ryan Krause, DL Gabe Long, DT Anthony Maddox, WR LeRon McCoy, LB Ben Moffitt, DL Jesse Nading, DB Derrick Roberson, RB Marcel Shipp, WR Mark Simmons, OL Torrin Tucker, RB Darius Walker, DB Dexter Wynn

TENNESSEE TITANS
FB Jeremy Cain, DB Marquice Cole, DL Sean Conover, FB Casey Cramer, RB Omar Cuff, WR Biren Ealy, LB Jerrell Freeman, DB Tuff Harris, DL Antonio Johnson, DB Tony Joiner, DB Calvin Lowry, OL Enoka Lucas, QB Ingle Martin, OL Jason Murphy, TE Jamie Petrowksi, OL Isaac Snell, DL Eric Taylor, K John Vaughn, OL Fernando Velasco, DB Cary Williams, WR Edward Williams and WR Roydell Williams

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
QB Todd Bouman, RB Ciatrick Fason, LB Tony Gilbert, DL Jesse Mahelona, DL Kenny Pettway, DL Bo Schobel, DB Trae Williams, TE Chris Brown, DL Mkristo Bruce, OL Andrew Carnahan, TE Charles Davis, DB Isaiah Gardner, DB Michael Grant, WR Ryan Hoag, OL Pete McMahon, OL Drew Miller, DB Rashod Moulton, LB Lamar Myles and WR D’Juan Woods

OAKLAND RAIDERS
DB Adam Archuleta, OL Jesse Boone, DB Darrick Brown, DL Derrick Gray, DL Greyson Gunheim, WR Jonathan Holland, FB Luke Lawton, DB Nate Lyles, WR Chris McFoy, P Glenn Pakulak, RB Louis Rankin, FB Marcel Reece, OL Brandon Rodd, DB Nick Sanchez, LB Shane Simmons, TE Darrell Strong, DB Marviel Underwood, DB Michael Waddell, TE Chris Wagner, RB Adimchinobe Echemandu, DL Josh Shaw

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
LB Antwan Applewhite, LB Eric Bakhtiari, WR Gary Banks, DB Tra Battle, DB Josh Bell, TE Wade Betschart, DB Brian Bonner, RB Eldra Buckley, DL Andre Coleman, DL Lamar Divens
OL Brandyn Dombrowski, DL Keith Grennan, DL Keith Jackson,
WR Mark Jones, OL Tyler Luellen, LB Terna Nande, OL Tony Pape, LB Carlos Polk, OL Erik Robertson, RB Marcus Thomas

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
OL Anthony Alabi, TE Michael Allan, WR Jabari Arthur, DB Rashad Barksdale, K Connor Barth, DB Khayyam Burns, DE Johnny Dingle, OL Edwin Harrison, WR Sergiori Joachim, LB E.J. Kuale, OLTravis Leffew, DL Derek Lokey, FB Chris Manderino, WR Kevin McMahan, LB Steve Octavien, DL Jason Parker, LB LeRue Rumph, WR Bobby Sippio, OL Rob Smith, OL Tre Stallings, OL Will Svitek

DENVER BRONCOS
OL P.J. Alexander, DB Josh Barrett, LB Jordan Beck, DL Larry Birdine, DL Paul Carrington, DB Wale Dada, OL Mitch Erickson, Dylan Gandy, QB Darrell Hackney, DL Steven Harris, WR Glenn Martinez, WR Marquay McDaniel, TE Chad Mustard, P Sam Paulescu, DB Tyrone Poole, WR Clifford Russell, DB Vickiel Vaughn

DALLAS COWBOYS
WR Danny Amendola, RB Keon Lattimore, DL Marcus Dixon, TE Drew Atchison, DL Remi Ayodele, QB Richard Bartel, WR Mark Bradford, RB Alonzo Coleman, FB Julius Crosslin, DB Dowayne Davis, LB Tearrius George, OL Ryan Gibbons, TE Rodney Hannah, WR Mike Jefferson, OL Cory Lekkerkerker, WR Todd Lowber, LB Darrell Robertson, DL Junior Siavii, DL Marcus Smith, LB Tyson Smith, LB Erik Walden

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
RB Ryan Moats, WR Bam Childress, DB Therrian Fontenot, DB Nick Graham, WR Jamal Jones, DB Marcus Paschal, OL Stefan Rodgers, LB Pago Togafau, Jerome McDougle, DB Kyle Arrington, FB Jed Collins, FB Jason Davis, WR Michael Gasperson, DL Mike Marquardt, WR Shaheer McBride, DL Montae Reagor, LB Justin Roland, LB Andy Studebaker, TE Kris Wilson and OL Scott Young

WASHINGTON REDSKINS
DL Matthias Askew, DL Ryan Boschetti, FB Nehemiah Broughton, OL Devin Clark, OL Andrew Crummey, QB Derek Devine, P Derrick Frost, WR Horace Gant, LB Curtis Gatewood, DB Patrick Ghee, LB David Holloway, DB Cedrick Holt, WR Maurice Mann, RB Marcus Mason, OL Fred Matua, WR Billy McMullen, WR Anthony Mix, DB Matteral Richardson, LB Danny Verdun-Wheeler, OL Todd Wade, OL Tavares Washington, DB Byron Westbrook

NEW YORK GIANTS
QB Andre’ Woodson, OL Andrew Bain, OL Kurt Quarterman, OL Clifford Louis, OL Na’Shan Goddard, FB Robert Douglas, TE Eric Butler and Jerome Collins, WR Brandon London, WR Marcus Monk, DL Wallace Gilberry, DL Alex Morrow, DL Ogemdi Nwagbuo, DL Jeremy Clark, LB Tank Daniels, LB James Terry, DB Geoffrey Pope, DB Darren Barnett, K Josh Huston

GREEN BAY PACKERS
WR Jake Allen, DB Scorpio Babers, DL Conrad Bolston, OL Brennen Carvalho, DB Tyrone Culver, LB Spencer Havner, TE Joey Haynos, RB Noah Herron, OL Ryan Keenan, LB Danny Lansanah, DL Alfred Malone, RB Vernand Morency, DL Daniel Muir, DB Joe Porter, WR Johnny Quinn, WR Taj Smith, WR Brett Swain, OL Orrin Thompson, FB Corey White

MINNESOTA VIKINGS
K Steve Hauschka, QB Brooks Bollinger, WR Jaymar Johnson, WR Nate Jones, WR Martin Nance, DB Marcus Walker, DB Dee McCann, CB Brandon Sumrall, RB Albert Young, TE Braden Jones, LB J Leman, LB Rufus Alexander, DL Martail Burnett, OL Brian Daniels, DL Chris Norwell, OL Dan Mozes, OL Tim Mattran, OL Chase Johnson, WR Darius Reynaud, DL Leger Douzable

CHICAGO BEARS
FB Lousaka Polite, WR Brandon Rideau, DL Dan Bazuin, LB Michael Okwo, OL Anthony Oakley, OL Tyler Reed, WR Mike Hass, TE Fontel Mines, DB Leonard Peters, RB P.J. Pope, LS Thomas Gafford, P Zacrey Atterberry, DL Ervin Baldwin, OL Cody Balogh, DB Trey Brown, DL Joe Clermond, DL Nick Osborn, LB Joey LaRocque, OL Ryan Poles, TE Marcus Stone, OL Chester Adams

DETROIT LIONS
WR Eric Bellamy, LB Darnell Bing, DB Greg Blue, LB Buster Davis, OL Frank Davis, DL Victor DeGrate, DB Dovonte Edwards, WR Devale Ellis, DL Rudolph Hardie, TE Clark Harris, QB Drew Henson, DB LaMarcus Hicks, WR Brandon Middleton, WR Kenneth Moore, WR John Standeford, OL Corey Hulsey, LB Leon Joe, RB Artose Pinner, OL Jonathan Scott, DB Kiwaukee Thomas

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
DL Patrick Chukwurah, LB Ryan Nece, QB Chris Simms, DL Charles Bennett, OL Phil Bogle, DL Chris Bradwell, WR Brian Clark, OL Chris Clark, RB Kenneth Darby, OL Chris Denman, TE Daniel Fells, DB Marcus Hamilton, DB Darrell Hunter, OL Brian Johnson, WR Chad Lucas, DL Dre Moore, OL Dennis Roland, RB Clifton Smith, WR Micheal Spurlock, FB Carl Stewart, WR Cortez Hankton

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
DB Lance Schulters, DL Jeremy Geathers, TE Ronnie Ghent, DL Marcus Pittman, DB David Roach, OL Isaiah Ross, OL Brian Stamper, DT Orien Harris, OL Andy Alleman, OL Tim Duckworth, OL Andy Alleman, OL Tim Duckworth, LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar, WR Skyler Green, RB Lynell Hamilton, DL Orien Harris, LB William Kershaw, K Taylor Mehlhaff, TE Buck Ortega, QB Tyler Palko, DL Josh Savage, FB Olaniyi Sobomehein, WR Joe West

ATLANTA FALCONS
OL D’Anthony Batiste, DB Eric Brock, OL Michael Butterworth, DB Deke Cooper, OL Doug Datish, DL Willie Evans, DB Wilrey Fontenot, OL Kynan Forney, DL Brandon Miller, DL Rashad Moore, OL Terrance Pennington, LB Mickey Pimentel, DB Glenn Sharpe, DL Montavious Stanley, DB Daren Stone, LB Cameron Vaughn, WR Eric Weems, WR Chandler Williams, TE Keith Zinger, QB Joey Harrington, TE Marcus Pollard

CAROLINA PANTHERS
OL Milford Brown, OL Toniu Fonoti, DB Terrence Holt, WR Samie Parker, WR Travis Taylor, RB LaBrandon Toefield, QB Brett Basanez, RB Decori Birmingham, WR William Buchanon, DB Joe Fields, FB Troy Fleming, WR Chris Hannon, DL Nick Hayden, OL Evan Mathis, DL Stanley McClover, OL Rueben Riley, OL Geoff Schwartz, LB Tim Shaw, DB Darren Toney, TE Chad Upshaw, DL Stephen Williams, DB Ricardo Colclough

ST. LOUIS RAMS
DB Jerome Carter, WR Marques Hagans, WR Matt Caddell, TE Nick Cleaver, DB Tanard Davis, DB Cortney Grixby, OL Donovan Raiola, LB Marcus Riley, DL Henry Smith, DL Willie Williams, WR Reche Caldwell, DB David Macklin, DB Darius Vinnett, WR Brandon Williams, WR Derek Stanley, OL Mark LeVoir, OL Dustin Fry, DL C.J. Ah You, RB Lance Ball, LB Marc Magro, FB Russ Weil, OL Julius Wilson

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
WR Ashley Lelie, RB Thomas Clayton, RB Moran Norris, WR Jerard Rabb, WR Cam Colvin, WR Dominique Zeigler, WR Robert Ortiz, TE J.J. Finley, OL Brian de la Puente, OL Alan Reuber, OL Joe Toledo, OL Chris Patrick, DL Walter Curry, DL Atiyyah Ellison, DL LaJuan Ramsey, DL Louis Holmes, LB Larry Grant, LB Dennis Haley, DB Markus Curry, DB D.J. Parker and K/P Ricky Schmitt

[Lonestar]

Part two

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
DB Omare Lowe, WR Joel Filani, WR Bryan Gilmore, DL Larry Tripplett, DB Jamar Adams, QB Dalton Bell, DL Kevin Brown, WR Michael Bumpus, OL Ben Claxton, DB Marquis Floyd, P Reggie Hodges, DB Kelin Johnson, OL Nick Jones, FB David Kirtman, OL Pat Murray, TE Joe Newton, LB Dallas Sartz, WR Trent Shelton, DL Nu’u Tafisi and OL Kyle Williams

ARIZONA CARDINALS
LB Brandon Moore, LB Matt Stewart, LB Chris Harrington, LB Joe Tafoya, DB Michael Adams, DB DeMario Minter, DB Dennis Keyes, DB Travarous Bain, DL Jason Banks, DL Keilen Dykes. OL Pat Ross, RB Steve Baylark, RB Chris Vincent, OL Kelly Butler, OL Carlton Medder, OL Peter Clifford, OL Jasper Harvey, WR Jamaica Rector, TE Alex Shor, TE Brent Miller, QB Anthony Morelli

[atwater27]

Players I would like us to look at....
Patrick Chukwurah... I like the guy, and he played his heart out for us when he had the chance.

Adimchinobi Echemandu.... Odd man out in Raiders supremely talented backfield, and a preseason superstar this season. definitely worth a look considering Oakland's lack of sense.

Kenton Keith. The guy simply picked up where Addai left off. Like he was an extension of Addai. Can't believe they dumped him.

[dogfish]

BUFFALO BILLS
DB Will James, LB Donnie Spragan

MIAMI DOLPHINS
OL Pedro Sosa, TE Justin Peelle

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
DB Fernando Bryant, LB Victor Hobson

PITTSBURGH STEELERS
DL Ryan McBean, WR Willie Reid

CINCINNATI BENGALS
OL Willie Anderson, RB Rudi Johnson, DB Deltha O'Neal

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
QB Jared Lorenzen

HOUSTON TEXANS
DL Rosevelt Colvin, OL Greg Eslinger, RB Darius Walker

TENNESSEE TITANS
WR Roydell Williams

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
DL Jesse Mahelona, DL Bo Schobel

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
RB Ryan Moats,DL Montae Reagor

WASHINGTON REDSKINS
DL Ryan Boschetti, P Derrick Frost, OL Fred Matua, OL Todd Wade

NEW YORK GIANTS
WR Marcus Monk

GREEN BAY PACKERS
RB Vernand Morency

MINNESOTA VIKINGS
OL Dan Mozes

CHICAGO BEARS
DL Dan Bazuin, LB Michael Okwo, WR Mike Hass

DETROIT LIONS
LB Buster Davis

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
DL Patrick Chukwurah, LB Ryan Nece, QB Chris Simms, WR Brian Clark, DL Dre Moore

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
DB Lance Schulters, DL Jeremy Geathers, OL Andy Alleman, K Taylor Mehlhaff

ATLANTA FALCONS
OL Kynan Forney, LB Cameron Vaughn

CAROLINA PANTHERS
DL Nick Hayden

ST. LOUIS RAMS
WR Marques Hagans

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
WR Ashley Lelie, LB Larry Grant

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
DL Larry Tripplett, DB Jamar Adams

ARIZONA CARDINALS
LB Brandon Moore, DL Keilen Dykes


player that might be good enough to replace one of our own end-of-the-roster scrubs

player that might still have some upside-- would consider for the practice squad if he still has eligibility

player that i'd keep an eye on in case we need a veteran replacement at that position*


*it's no accident that a lot of these guys are former broncos-- if you need an emergency replacement due to injury, it's nice to bring in guys that are known quantities and already know your scheme. . .

[topscribe]

The key here is seemed pretty good in preseason, playing pure vanilla offenses and as a D..

Both were cut by their old teams cause they had better players to replace them with.. one was from SAN.. That speaks volumes by itself..

McCree is proving himself as a player.

I believe against vanilla offenses is the best proving ground. Very often, it
results in straight one-on-one competition and really exposes a player's
strengths and weaknesses. Under those conditions, I really like what I see
out of McCree, and so do some people who have been there in games and
practices.

-----

[omac]

Haven't seen him play, but from a physical point of view ... Keith Grennan, DE/DT, 6'3 298, San Diego. There's even a year old article where one of the players was saying he was the best undrafted lineman he's seen in practice. He might be a project who could add depth to either DT or DE spots.

[WARHORSE]

Ashlie Lelie?
Only if Quitterson isn't available and we REALLY need a water boy.

His problem is he can only run the streak, he never posted up across the middle. Ashlie did absolutely nothing in SF and played poorly. When was the last time you personally saw this deep speed, because even the greatest lose a step over the course of a few years and he was never a move guy.

Also our deep threats are our tight ends and slots that sneak down the middle seam real stealth like. We have guys that can run the streak all day long as a decoy to open that guy up going down the seam.

I guess thats your opinion.....cool. But if Ashley hasnt figured it out by now, Shanahan knows how to get the most out of Lelies skillset.

And Lelie stats in Denver btw, speak for themselves as far as what he can and cant do.

Theres a difference between the ninja slot WRs and TEs your speaking about, and a guy who can just jet up the sidelines....which he can StiLL do.

Lelie had Jake Plummer throwing him the ball when he went over a thousand, with the leagues highest ypc.

He aint that old.

[WARHORSE]

Colclough from Carolina has shown himself to be pretty decent.

[chanesaw]

Players I would like us to look at....
Patrick Chukwurah... I like the guy, and he played his heart out for us when he had the chance.

Adimchinobi Echemandu.... Odd man out in Raiders supremely talented backfield, and a preseason superstar this season. definitely worth a look considering Oakland's lack of sense.

Kenton Keith. The guy simply picked up where Addai left off. Like he was an extension of Addai. Can't believe they dumped him.

I think Keith had an arrest during the offseason.

[topscribe]

I guess thats your opinion.....cool. But if Ashley hasnt figured it out by now, Shanahan knows how to get the most out of Lelies skillset.

And Lelie stats in Denver btw, speak for themselves as far as what he can and cant do.

Theres a difference between the ninja slot WRs and TEs your speaking about, and a guy who can just jet up the sidelines....which he can StiLL do.

Lelie had Jake Plummer throwing him the ball when he went over a thousand, with the leagues highest ypc.

He aint that old.

I'm afraid I have to agree with BroncoTech on this one, friend.

My beef with Ashlie when he was here was that his short game was
nonexistent. No hooks, no crossing patterns. Just fly down the field.
Problem is, the list of CBs who can run with him is growing with each draft.
The Broncos alone have a couple who can do that now.

It was asked previously when was the last time we saw this kind of deep
speed. Well, the Broncos have a WR with this kind of deep speed, who is
starting: Fast Eddie Royal. Of course, Eddie turned in a 4.39 40 time at
the Combine, but the best time he ever turned in was 4.22.
(http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/2007/royal.html)

Fast Eddie knows how to shake defenders better than Ashlie ever did. He
is a better receiver than Ashlie, and so is D-Jack, and probably Colbert, if
that play in the Cards game finally gave him some confidence.

In short, it would be a dreadful mistake to sacrifice one of the Broncos'
present receivers to bring back one they had jettisoned already . . . as did
a couple other teams.

Let's keep an eye on DTs and safeties and forget about receivers.

IMHO.

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[omac]

I'm afraid I have to agree with BroncoTech on this one, friend.

My beef with Ashlie when he was here was that his short game was
nonexistent. No hooks, no crossing patterns. Just fly down the field.
Problem is, the list of CBs who can run with him is growing with each draft.
The Broncos alone have a couple who can do that now.

It was asked previously when was the last time we saw this kind of deep
speed. Well, the Broncos have a WR with this kind of deep speed, who is
starting: Fast Eddie Royal. Of course, Eddie turned in a 4.39 40 time at
the Combine, but the best time he ever turned in was 4.22.
(http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/2007/royal.html)

Fast Eddie knows how to shake defenders better than Ashlie ever did. He
is a better receiver than Ashlie, and so is D-Jack, and probably Colbert, if
that play in the Cards game finally gave him some confidence.

In short, it would be a dreadful mistake to sacrifice one of the Broncos'
present receivers to bring back one they had jettisoned already . . . as did
with a couple other teams.

Let's keep an eye on DTs and safeties and forget about receivers.

IMHO.

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Nice post, topscribe.

Another differentiator with Eddie Royal versus Ashley Lelie; Eddie Royal will fight for his roster spot; Ashley will complain about not being the #1. That's probably the farthest thing from his mind right now.

[LoyalSoldier]

Kenton Keith had a nasty habit of fumbling, dropping a pass, or some other disaster when they needed him the most.

[WARHORSE]

I'm afraid I have to agree with BroncoTech on this one, friend.

My beef with Ashlie when he was here was that his short game was
nonexistent. No hooks, no crossing patterns. Just fly down the field.
Problem is, the list of CBs who can run with him is growing with each draft.
The Broncos alone have a couple who can do that now.

It was asked previously when was the last time we saw this kind of deep
speed. Well, the Broncos have a WR with this kind of deep speed, who is
starting: Fast Eddie Royal. Of course, Eddie turned in a 4.39 40 time at
the Combine, but the best time he ever turned in was 4.22.
(http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/2007/royal.html)

Fast Eddie knows how to shake defenders better than Ashlie ever did. He
is a better receiver than Ashlie, and so is D-Jack, and probably Colbert, if
that play in the Cards game finally gave him some confidence.

In short, it would be a dreadful mistake to sacrifice one of the Broncos'
present receivers to bring back one they had jettisoned already . . . as did
a couple other teams.

Let's keep an eye on DTs and safeties and forget about receivers.

IMHO.

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I dont disagree with what Lelie doesnt have in regards to what you say.

And I dont disagree that Eddie is fast, Im not looking for Eddies replacement. But Lelie blocks, knows the playbook extensively, and you cant run Eddie down the field on every play. Making the safety or safeties stay over the top with fresh legs would be a huge asset with Brandon sitting on the other side, and all kinds of different sets in between available using Stokes or Eddie in the slot or both, the TEs, or even the RBs AND fullback now that Hillis has taken over at FB. Hillis is a very real receiving threat that we havent gotten to look at a whole lot.

Try and remember when Lelie was here, when you can recall him catching a deep ball without either stopping, or slowing badly once he had his man beat.

Cutlers arm strength makes Lelie a whole new weapon.


That just my opium of course.

And btw, Lelie is every bit as fast as Eddie, and taller. That makes him an easier target for J.

[claymore]

I think we have to count on Stokley being hurt at some point this season. Bringing in lelie, well hes better than Martinez. :D

[honz]

4.22 is blazing fast!:eek:

No wonder you guys call him Fast Eddie!

[topscribe]

I dont disagree with what Lelie doesnt have in regards to what you say.

And I dont disagree that Eddie is fast, Im not looking for Eddies replacement. But Lelie blocks, knows the playbook extensively, and you cant run Eddie down the field on every play. Making the safety or safeties stay over the top with fresh legs would be a huge asset with Brandon sitting on the other side, and all kinds of different sets in between available using Stokes or Eddie in the slot or both, the TEs, or even the RBs AND fullback now that Hillis has taken over at FB. Hillis is a very real receiving threat that we havent gotten to look at a whole lot.

Try and remember when Lelie was here, when you can recall him catching a deep ball without either stopping, or slowing badly once he had his man beat.

Cutlers arm strength makes Lelie a whole new weapon.


That just my opium of course.

And btw, Lelie is every bit as fast as Eddie, and taller. That makes him an easier target for J.

You make a good argument. My next thought, however, would be, who
would get his pink slip to make room for Ashlie? I would not want any of
the present receivers to go. That is certain.

As If I were coach. :laugh:

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[Lonestar]

I guess thats your opinion.....cool. But if Ashley hasnt figured it out by now, Shanahan knows how to get the most out of Lelies skillset.

And Lelie stats in Denver btw, speak for themselves as far as what he can and cant do.

Theres a difference between the ninja slot WRs and TEs your speaking about, and a guy who can just jet up the sidelines....which he can StiLL do.

Lelie had Jake Plummer throwing him the ball when he went over a thousand, with the leagues highest ypc.

He aint that old.

Lets really look at ashley 1000 season and YPC..

it was the year of ROE when the DB could not touch the WR..

ashley was fast but was a long strider that required him to have 20 yard+ plus to create separation.. He gets jammed at the LOS he was screwed..

ashley did not go over the middle period..

Ashley just started to learn how to somewhat block for the running game..

Sure he had great YPC and lead the league.. but the crucial point was YAC

MOST of his yards were because of the QB getting him the ball and him falling down after the catch or it being in the End Zone

During the same year:
Rod had 1184 yards and 419 YAC 7TDs
Putz had 572 yards and 262 yac 2TDS
Watts had 385 yards and 246 YAC 1TD
Carswell had 198 yards and 96 YAC 1TD
ashley had 1084 yards and a whooping 198 YAC 7TDs.
2007
Marshall had 1325 yards and 505 YAC 7TDs
Stokley had 635 yards and 127 YAC 5TDs
Scheffler had 549 yards and 164 YAC 5TDs
Walker had 209 yards and 109 YAC 0TDs

What does this tell you he could not run with the ball after catching the ball or did not want to.. you choose.. Most of his catches were deep and then falling down circus catches.. he simple is not a good WR in the DEN model

ashley is a loser and certainly not needed as an example of how to succeed as a WR.. Especially around Marshall..


BTW in 2004 ashely was only # 19 in yards for a WR, in the year of ROE just average for starting WR's..

[Gimpygod]

Players I would like us to look at....
Patrick Chukwurah... I like the guy, and he played his heart out for us when he had the chance.

Adimchinobi Echemandu.... Odd man out in Raiders supremely talented backfield, and a preseason superstar this season. definitely worth a look considering Oakland's lack of sense.

Kenton Keith. The guy simply picked up where Addai left off. Like he was an extension of Addai. Can't believe they dumped him.

I would love to have the predator back

[topscribe]

Lets really look at ashley 1000 season and YPC..

it was the year of ROE when the DB could not touch the WR..

ashley was fast but was a long strider that required him to have 20 yard+ plus to create separation.. He gets jammed at the LOS he was screwed..

ashley did not go over the middle period..

Ashley just started to learn how to somewhat block for the running game..

Sure he had great YPC and lead the league.. but the crucial point was YAC

MOST of his yards were because of the QB getting him the ball and him falling down after the catch or it being in the End Zone

During the same year:
Rod had 1184 yards and 419 YAC 7TDs
Putz had 572 yards and 262 yac 2TDS
Watts had 385 yards and 246 YAC 1TD
Carswell had 198 yards and 96 YAC 1TD
ashley had 1084 yards and a whooping 198 YAC 7TDs.
2007
Marshall had 1325 yards and 505 YAC 7TDs
Stokley had 635 yards and 127 YAC 5TDs
Scheffler had 549 yards and 164 YAC 5TDs
Walker had 209 yards and 109 YAC 0TDs

What does this tell you he could not run with the ball after catching the ball or did not want to.. you choose.. Most of his catches were deep and then falling down circus catches.. he simple is not a good WR in the DEN model

ashley is a loser and certainly not needed as an example of how to succeed as a WR.. Especially around Marshall..


BTW in 2004 ashely was only # 19 in yards for a WR, in the year of ROE just average for starting WR's..

Fact of it is, were Ashlie worth his salt, he would have taken one of two options:

1. He would have shown he was team-first by parroting Rod Smith's declaration
that it doesn't matter who is #1 or #2, as long as everybody is producing.

2. Shown his competitive spirit by coming back and taking #1 through his
performance.

He did neither because he was neither team-oriented nor competitive. And I am
suspicious that is now what is behind his floating around among teams who have
had enough of him, apparently.

Nope, you're right: I would not welcome him back.

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[dogfish]

DOLPHINS CLAIM ALLEMAN, GARNER, LONDON
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 31, 2008, 6:05 p.m.

The Miami Dolphins have had an active day on the waiver wire, claiming three players who were waived yesterday.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network is reporting that Miami picked up center Andy Alleman, a 2007 third-round draft pick who was waived by the Saints yesterday. Alleman is a talented player, and Schefter reports that nearly a quarter of the league wanted him: In addition to Miami, he was claimed by Arizona, Denver, Indianapolis, Kansas City, New England and the New York Jets.

The Dolphins also claimed offensive tackle Nate Garner, waived by the Jets, and wide receiver Brandon London, waived by the Giants.

Other waiver claims made today include Indianapolis grabbing linebacker Buster Davis from the Lions. Davis was a third-round pick of the Cardinals last year.

____________________________________________


so much for alleman. . . i'm glad we at least put a claim in-- shows that the FO is paying attention. . . .

[yardog]

I think we have to count on Stokley being hurt at some point this season. Bringing in lelie, well hes better than Martinez. :D

Clay why do you have too rub in the Martinez cut? :tsk: Go ahead and tell me how much Mallard sucked while your at it.

[Slick]

Mc Dougle cut by the Eagles. It doesn't look like he's recovered from a torn triceps injury though. A big DE, first round pick I believe.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

He wuz signed Slick. GET ON THE BALL !!!!

[dogfish]

man, i hope you never run into slick in person. . . . :lol: :lol:

[Requiem / The Dagda]

man, i hope you never run into slick in person. . . . :lol: :lol:

I could take Slick. He's useless out of water.

[Slick]

He wuz signed Slick. GET ON THE BALL !!!!

The giants got him, I guess. Get of me Dream. It must have just happened.

[yardog]

I could take Slick. He's useless out of water.

:tsk:

[Requiem / The Dagda]

The giants got him, I guess. Get of me Dream. It must have just happened.

Slick69, I've had enough of you. GO DIVE INTO A VOLCANO.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Slick, the longer you take to reply the more this looks like a planned fight. Hurry up, the mods are coming. I hear the keys wranglin' off of JR's belt loop. HURRY!

[topscribe]

Safety CALVIN LOWRY has just been claimed by the Broncos off Tennessee, according to one report.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

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[sneakers]

Ron Dayne is still a FA

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I wonder if he's going to the active roster? Lowry started last year.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

PJ Pope, RB was signed to our PS too.

[honz]

Safety CALVIN LOWRY has just been claimed by the Broncos off Tennessee, according to one report.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

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Bill Williamson reported that we are going to cut Roderick Rodgers in order to make room...I guess that means that Lowry will be on the 53 man roster...at least until Barrett beats him out. (I hope)

Anyone know anything about Lowry?

[G_Money]

I wonder if he's going to the active roster? Lowry started last year.

Hasn't he played in ALL their games? I don't think he's PS eligible. Are we cutting Rogers?

~G

[honz]

Hasn't he played in ALL their games? I don't think he's PS eligible. Are we cutting Rogers?

~G
According to Burger Bill, yes.

Is this Lowry guy any good?

[G_Money]

Bill Williamson reported that we are going to cut Roderick Rodgers in order to make room...I guess that means that Lowry will be on the 53 man roster...at least until Barrett beats him out. (I hope)

Anyone know anything about Lowry?

LOL I should hit refresh before I post. :salute:

Lowry's a special teams guy and decent backup IIRC. He likes to make the big hit, a la Abdullah. He's better than most of our safety backups and can play now if required, unlike Barrett.

Replacing Rogers with Lowry is an upgrade, and an unexpected one. I still don't think he's an everyday starter, but he played really well at Penn St. And he's not a dummy either. If pressed I'd rather start him than Abdullah.

Good pickup.

~G

[G_Money]

And I do like the sheer number of quality ST guys we seem to have right now. I'm gonna miss Barrett on the squad, but Woodyard, Larsen, Green, Lowry, Winborn etc are all guys who know how to tackle on special teams. I like our ST squad better than last year for sure.

Now we'll see if our ST coach learned anything.

~G

[Italianmobstr7]

I love that we signed a Penn State guy. He was good at Penn State, and has been good on special teams in the NFL. He'll be a better backup than Rodgers or Barrett would be at this point and time.

[honz]

And I do like the sheer number of quality ST guys we seem to have right now. I'm gonna miss Barrett on the squad, but Woodyard, Larsen, Green, Lowry, Winborn etc are all guys who know how to tackle on special teams. I like our ST squad better than last year for sure.

Now we'll see if our ST coach learned anything.

~G
Yeah, I really like our ST coverage this year, at least in comparison to years past. It seemed like Barrett was always around the ball on STs so he will be missed there, but pretty much all of our LBs have looked good on STs either this preseason or last year.

Hopefully we don't get "Hester'ed" this year.

[rcsodak]

DT Orien Harris 6-3, #300, 2nd yr out of the U. Was doing good in preseason for the Saints.

Amon Gordon was released from the Ravens.

The faiduhs let go an rb that is said to be possibly in the sights of Shanny, Louis Rankin. They're just too loaded.

Eric Walden, LB, from the cowboys, also.

[rcsodak]

Pope? 5-9 rb? Ugh.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Pope could be the next Quentin Griffin.

[G_Money]

Think Cecil Sapp. He's on the PS because Alridge is out for the year and we don't want to just rely on Pittman if something happens to Young (and the odds of something happening to Young are something like 3 out of 4).

PS depth is a good thing. We'll see how Torain does once he comes back from his injury but it's possible that he's not ready to run even once he's "healthy" enough to come back. But having another Sapp sitting around in case of emergency isn't the worst thing - and is sort of the other function of the practice squad anyway.

~G

[G_Money]

Pope could be the next Quentin Griffin.

I remember Pope as a bowling ball sort from his Bowling Green days. More Maurice Jones-Drew than Quentin Griffin. That's why I mentioned Sapp. That, and because we PSed Sapp too.

Pope used to be a between-the-tackles runner with the sort of stubby legs that are hard to stop from churning IIRC. But they list him at 205 and I remember him somewhere closer to 220. If somebody convinced him to get lighter and "shiftier" and then cut him, then I can understand adding him to the PS, making him eat more potatoes and pasta, and seeing if he can be an inside runner for us.

I don't think it's a big deal either way - just wondering aloud about why we added him to the squad. :coffee:

~G

[hamrob]

Pope could be the next Quentin Griffin.Or Selvin Young, or Andre Hall or...oh, forget it!

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Or Selvin Young, or Andre Hall or...oh, forget it!

Nice to see you around Hamrob!

[nevcraw]

Calvin Lowry
2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 57 | Key
Alert: None

Comment: Lowry has basically been a backup who has managed to start 11 of the 16 games he played this past season due to injuries. He fits the profile of a free safety better than a strong safety, but has the ability to play both positions. He is a good athlete who easily turns his hips and breaks down well for open-field tackles. He appears to recognize routes well enough and does a good job of reading the quarterback's eyes from off coverage. He shows decent range over the top, but is not real explosive when he drives on the ball or comes up to support the run. He is not real physical in the hole, but will come up and make an effort to get involved and make a tackle. He does a lot of things pretty well, but does not really stand out in any one area. He looks like a quality backup who can fill in as a starter and not hurt the team.

[Lonestar]

According to Burger Bill, yes.

Is this Lowry guy any good?


got to be better than the two mopes we have now..

[Slick]

Slick, the longer you take to reply the more this looks like a planned fight. Hurry up, the mods are coming. I hear the keys wranglin' off of JR's belt loop. HURRY!

Went to my Mom's apartment to watch the CU CSU game. No one is there and they have dish network.

McDougle was available this morning. My mistake guys. ...and yes, dogfish is right. You'll rue the day Dream. :rip:

[atwater27]

Pope? 5-9 rb? Ugh.

Soe of the best running backs in NFL history are 5 '9".

[hamrob]

Hey Atwater, who is that girl in your in your sig...I think I saw her with Jake Plummer a few years back!

[dogfish]

Hey Atwater, who is that girl in your in your sig...I think I saw her with Jake Plummer a few years back!


was she running back an INT for a score?


:fear:

[ikillz0mbies]

Hey, that's McCain's running mate!

[dogfish]

add eugene wilson to the list, at least for now. . . he can play both safety and corner, and is probably at his best playing free safety and patrolling the deep halves, where his range and ball skills are put to best use. . . of course, i'm guessing there's a good chance that he ends up back in new england-- but if not, i'd take him over calvin lowry. . .

[BroncoTech]

We can agree on Lelie now, he's going to the Faiders. I just heard on the bay area news Oakland is looking at him since they have Walker and one other decent receiver. I think Leliie will be a Faider by Monday night.

[BroncoTech]

http://sports.cbs5.com/fb/story.asp?i=20080901215452090000101


Raiders agree to deal with WR Lelie

By JOSH DUBOW,
AP Sports Writer

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) The Oakland Raiders agreed to terms on a one-year contract with discarded receiver Ashley Lelie on Monday in hopes that the former first-round pick can regain his form and help bolster an inexperienced position group.

Before adding Lelie, they were extremely thin at receiver behind starters Javon Walker and Ronald Curry. With Drew Carter sidelined by a season-ending knee injury, Johnnie Lee Higgins was the only one of Oakland's three backup receivers who had even played in an NFL game, catching six passes as a rookie.

Lelie, who has 206 receptions in six NFL seasons, could give JaMarcus Russell a deep-play option if he proves he is healthy. He had been cut by the San Francisco 49ers on Saturday after being slowed all preseason by a calf injury.

The deal was first reported by MediaNews.

The Raiders do not need to make a corresponding roster move to make room for Lelie until Wednesday, spokesman John Herrera said.

Lelie signed a two-year, $4.3 million deal with San Francisco last year, including a $2 million signing bonus, but he made little impact on his third NFL team. Lelie had just 10 receptions for 115 yards last season while struggling with injuries including a strained quadriceps, and the former first-round pick never emerged as the deep threat San Francisco needed.

Lelie then missed most of the 49ers' training camp this season with a strained calf, watching from the sideline as Jason Hill and rookie Josh Morgan moved past him on the depth chart. Lelie played in the 49ers' exhibition finale against San Diego on Friday night, but didn't catch a pass in his only preseason action.

He was released on Saturday because of what 49ers coach Mike Nolan called a "durability issue."

Lelie caught 54 passes for 1,084 yards and seven touchdowns during his best NFL season with Denver in 2004, but hasn't come close to replicating those numbers since then with the Broncos, the Atlanta Falcons or San Francisco. He has just 80 catches for 1,315 yards and two touchdowns the past three seasons.

Notes: FB Luke Lawton was back at the Raiders' facility Monday after being released on Saturday. Lawton had four catches in his one preseason game and is expected to be signed Wednesday as a backup to Justin Griffith. The team said he was in for a tryout, but he already had a locker and a uniform. ... P Shane Lechler, who has been out with a quadriceps injury, said he expected to punt on Wednesday in practice and should be ready for the game. ... S Rashad Baker expected to return to practice Wednesday from an ankle injury.

Updated September 1, 2008

[BroncoTech]

The local news isn't cutting Ashtray Lelie much slack, in closing the 11pm sportscast the ABC sports guy said Lelie will fit right in with the Faiders, because he'll drop 50% of the passes to him.

[rcsodak]

Soe of the best running backs in NFL history are 5 '9".

I really hate that story line.

Since when is a players' worth related to his size, or lack thereof?

I imagine there are alot more that have failed, than have excelled.

Plus, there are plenty of 6-0 rb's that have sucked as well!

Meaning, it's the player that needs to be graded, and not his size, imo.

My initial point, was Shanny doesn't seem to want to change his play calling to fit the player. ie Q. Q KILLED Indy on the outside...but Shanny tried to make him a between the T's rb.

The same most likely will happen to Pope...