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Drill-N-Fill
07-29-2008, 09:54 AM
Hamza Abdullah just had his moment.

It's that moment when a player knows he has arrived not only as an NFL starter but as a player the team absolutely cannot afford to lose.

Abdullah's moment? It came Saturday afternoon during special-teams practice. Abdullah was out there, as always, when about two minutes in, he was dismissed by special-teams coach Scott O'Brien. Abdullah's services would no longer be needed on the ever-perilous kickoff-coverage or kickoff-return units.

This was a good thing. Abdullah can't be covering kickoffs when he's the Broncos' only every- down safety.

"I don't know about 'arrived,' but it does put me closer to the goals I've set for myself," he said. "I've never not played special teams. I played
Denver Broncos special teams in Pop Warner."

You should have seen Domonique Foxworth's look when he realized Abdullah was dismissed from special-teams practice. Foxworth was leading the first wave of players through a high-step warm-up drill when he heard O'Brien tell Abdullah to hit the showers and go home for the day.

Foxworth stopped dead in his tracks and looked back at his departing teammate.

"I see how it is," Foxworth yelled as a joyous Abdullah trotted off the field. "You're one of them!"

The ribbing has been merciless since. The one mistake anyone can make is to say Abdullah has "graduated" from special teams or has been promoted.

"He wasn't promoted, he was demoted," O'Brien said. "It's a privilege to play on special teams."

Abdullah is the first to agree. Through his speed and relentless energy, he made his mark on special teams. It was his coverage on kicks that kept him around the NFL before he finally got his chance to play safety midway through his third season last year.

Special teams had become so ingrained in Abdullah's fiber, an order to skip the "privileged" workout Saturday never registered.

"Coach said, 'I told you, you didn't have to come out here,' " Abdullah said. "But I've never had to miss a practice, ever. I might be a safety in the league, but no matter where I'm at, I'm going to have to play special teams. It's just one of our duties. I was surprised. That was a huge bone they threw me. I was able to go home and see my little girl. She's usually asleep when I leave in the morning and asleep when I get home, so that was a good time."

John Lynch remembers when he no longer had to play special teams. He had been a full-time starting safety for three seasons and had played six overall before he got relieved from "special" duty.

Times were a little different then. It was different as early as last year's camp for Lynch and Abdullah. Then, Lynch was the every-down safety and Abdullah was fighting to share playing time with Nick Ferguson at strong safety.

This year, Lynch is splitting time with Marlon McCree at one safety position, while Abdullah is the other safety who stays on the field for both running and passing situations — but not for the bulk of the special- teams' play.

"The guys were certainly giving him a hard time," Lynch said. "But I'm really excited for Hamza. Mike (Shanahan) talks all the time that you have an opportunity to be a special player when you match talent with want-to and desire, work ethic and professionalism. And Hamza's got all those things. The game is extremely important to him."

It was the veteran Lynch who helped bring along the young Abdullah to where he is today. Where he is, is not on any kickoff special teams. Abdullah will remain on the punt-coverage team, where the action is more controlled than on kickoffs.

But no longer does Abdullah have to stick around for the majority of the special-teams' practices. No offense to O'Brien, but allowing Abdullah to spend more time with his daughter, now that's a privilege.


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He's looked very good in training camp. I think he'll be a force this year. :defense:

Ziggy
07-29-2008, 10:57 AM
Good to see that one of the young guys has stepped up and made a case to be a full time starter. Abdullah didn't impress me that much last season due to the number of missed tackles, but it looks like he's put the work in in the offseason. Great to hear.

claymore
07-29-2008, 12:56 PM
Good to see that one of the young guys has stepped up and made a case to be a full time starter. Abdullah didn't impress me that much last season due to the number of missed tackles, but it looks like he's put the work in in the offseason. Great to hear.He pissed me off so bad during the Texans game, this is something Im just going to have to see.

Lonestar
07-29-2008, 03:34 PM
Just because he might have improved does not make he a great safety, just better than the rest..

Does not mean we may not have to use a day one choice next year to get better one..

Requiem / The Dagda
07-29-2008, 03:41 PM
THE SOLUTION TO SAFETY PROBLEMS

Myron Rolle, S - Florida State University

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e360/howlie97/MyronRolle.jpg

He's a junior this year, and already enrolled in graduate school courses. Smart kid, stand out person. Don't know if he'll declare. He rocks my socks though.

OMorange&blue
07-29-2008, 03:47 PM
He pissed me off so bad during the Texans game, this is something Im just going to have to see.

Ditto. Believe it when I see it, and believe me, I REALLY hope I see it.

NameUsedBefore
07-29-2008, 03:48 PM
I thought he played alright last season >_>

OMorange&blue
07-29-2008, 03:53 PM
Looked lost sometimes. Lacked confidence in tackling ability in the open field. Definite upside and I was very much in agreement w the decision to replace fergie, but he looked raw. Sounds like he made the leap, but like I said Ill believe it when I see it.

BroncoWave
07-29-2008, 04:51 PM
Hmm, I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing that Hamza has been one of the best safetys in camp. I'm with Clay, I'm just going to have to wait and see.

PatricktheDookie
07-29-2008, 05:31 PM
Don't forget - Hamza looked great in training camp last year, as well.

BeefStew25
07-29-2008, 05:34 PM
The Terrorist is looking to have a seriously suicidal year for us. I am excited.

Benetto
07-29-2008, 05:36 PM
The Terrorist is looking to have a seriously suicidal year for us. I am excited.
LMFAO!!

Is there an off switch for you Beefy?

Rex
07-29-2008, 05:37 PM
I thought he played alright last season >_>

Whifffff!

tubby
07-29-2008, 05:40 PM
Whifffff!

Yep. The Big Whiffer.

SOCALORADO.
07-30-2008, 08:03 AM
Good to see everyone here has common sense when it comes to the "Whiffer"
Whew!

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 01:22 PM
Seem like most of you are remembering him for one wiff tackle during the Houston game and not his solid body of work. Being that it was his first time getting significant game time. Hamza is a young undrafted FA. Everybody cant step in and dominate right away like fans would like them to do. I have big hopes for Hamza but i would rather see Rogers back there since hes the bigger ball hawk.

Retired_Member_001
07-30-2008, 04:39 PM
LMFAO!!

Is there an off switch for you Beefy?

Yeah, the ignore button.

Retired_Member_001
07-30-2008, 04:41 PM
Seem like most of you are remembering him for one wiff tackle during the Houston game and not his solid body of work. Being that it was his first time getting significant game time. Hamza is a young undrafted FA. Everybody cant step in and dominate right away like fans would like them to do. I have big hopes for Hamza but i would rather see Rogers back there since hes the bigger ball hawk.

I think that the reason Hamza isn't looked upon too highly, is because he is probably thrown into the generalization of 1 year rentals. Most of our safeties at the moment are 1 year rentals. Hamza could do a decent job but I don't see him being the future. Shanahan will want Elite safeties back there and he will find them by any means possible. We have the ability to have the best secondary in the league but we need to find those Safeties first.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 04:48 PM
dont know how Hamza is ao ne year rental when hes been here for a couple years. he was more of a project than a rental...The project is starting to shine.

Retired_Member_001
07-30-2008, 04:50 PM
dont know how Hamza is ao ne year rental when hes been here for a couple years. he was more of a project than a rental...The project is starting to shine.

That's why I said "thrown in to the generalization".

Our safeties are not looking good and Hamza hasn't really proven he can be a good safety yet. He has the potential to do well, but he hasn't shown that actual skill just of yet. Maybe this season is his chance to shine.

As I said, I wouldn't consider him the future or anything but he could be a servicable player for a few years.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 04:55 PM
Our whole defense as a unit is shining in camp though, Who told you they havent been looking good? (safeties)

Retired_Member_001
07-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Our whole defense as a unit is shining in camp though, Who told you they havent been looking good? (safeties)

I meant from a personnel stand point.

Playing well in Camp means as much to me as playing well in Pre-season.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 05:08 PM
Ohhh

Drill-N-Fill
07-30-2008, 05:20 PM
Hamza is the best saftey we have. Might not be saying much, but if people are looking to criticize, there are 5 people who play the same position that should be criticized first. He's a hard worker, good work ethic, great locker team guy, tries hard, and last year was his first live action. Lets just see what the kid can do. And at the end of the year, we will know whether he's a starter in this league or not.

All I know is that i'm excited about our YOUNG defense. We might be a little raw, but we gotta bunch of good character guys who are willing to give it all they got. :defense::defense::defense:

Lonestar
07-30-2008, 07:16 PM
Hamza is the best saftey we have. Might not be saying much, but if people are looking to criticize, there are 5 people who play the same position that should be criticized first. He's a hard worker, good work ethic, great locker team guy, tries hard, and last year was his first live action. Lets just see what the kid can do. And at the end of the year, we will know whether he's a starter in this league or not.

All I know is that i'm excited about our YOUNG defense. We might be a little raw, but we gotta bunch of good character guys who are willing to give it all they got. :defense::defense::defense:

Being starter on this team only means there is no one better behind him and right now with John Lynch leaving the cupboard is mighty bare..

He is a far cry from being Atwater, Dennis Smith or one of the other great Safeties DEN has been known for over the years..


Kind looks like we play with foxy at safety again unless they find a decent replacement..

frauschieze
07-30-2008, 07:33 PM
Being starter on this team only means there is no one better behind him and right now with John Lynch leaving the cupboard is mighty bare..

He is a far cry from being Atwater, Dennis Smith or one of the other great Safeties DEN has been known for over the years..


Kind looks like we play with foxy at safety again unless they find a decent replacement..

*shudders* Please Lord, make it stop!

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Being starter on this team only means there is no one better behind him and right now with John Lynch leaving the cupboard is mighty bare..

He is a far cry from being Atwater, Dennis Smith or one of the other great Safeties DEN has been known for over the years..


Kind looks like we play with foxy at safety again unless they find a decent replacement..

Foxxy will not be playing Safety this year. That experiment is dead. Only in obvious passing situations they MAY use him at Safety. Which the coaches doubt also. They dont plan on using him as a Safety thi syear though.

Lonestar
07-30-2008, 08:06 PM
Foxxy will not be playing Safety this year. That experiment is dead. Only in obvious passing situations they MAY use him at Safety. Which the coaches doubt also. They dont plan on using him as a Safety thi syear though.


which coach told you this or is it your opinion?..

Skinny
07-30-2008, 08:22 PM
I can see Fox sliding back to safety if we have some injuries to that position.

The reason Coyer and Slo played him there in 06', was becuase of the injuries to Fergy & Sam Brandon. Against Seattle i think, Coyer said they moved him to S because they were was using a lot of 3 WR sets. They put Fox there because of his ability to cover recievers and he did well enough throughout the game to keep him there. (He was better than Curome Cox IMO too)

06' got the ball rolling for last year when Bates and Slo played him there due to the injuries to Fergy & Lynch. Hopefully with the decent depth we're starting to finally build at S, he can stay at CB where he belongs.

Lonestar
07-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I can see Fox sliding back to safety if we have some injuries to that position.

The reason Coyer and Slo played him there in 06', was becuase of the injuries to Fergy & Sam Brandon. Against Seattle i think, Coyer said they moved him to S because they were was using a lot of 3 WR sets. They put Fox there because of his ability to cover recievers and he did well enough throughout the game to keep him there. (He was better than Curome Cox IMO too)

06' got the ball rolling for last year when Bates and Slo played him there due to the injuries to Fergy & Lynch. Hopefully with the decent depth we're starting to finally build at S, he can stay at CB where he belongs.


lets hope so but I do not trust it not to happen.. other than a rookie I'm not at all impressed with our safety play..

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-30-2008, 08:28 PM
which coach told you this or is it your opinion?..

Foxxy said coaches moving him back to his natural position fulltime is whats really helping him in camp this year. Not having to learn the S position. He has a CB body. He said he will only play S in certain packeges if they needed him too. So obviously the coaches are telling him he wont be back at S since they feel they have some good competition going on at S since all those guys know those spots are wide open. Oh and yeah Shanny said it also.

Skinny
07-30-2008, 08:53 PM
lets hope so but I do not trust it not to happen.. other than a rookie I'm not at all impressed with our safety play..I have'nt been happy with our depth over the last couple of years.

I don't know what to expect from the new group outside of McCree and Manuel on a full season starter basis, but this is a diffrent team for both of them too so...

I'm curious to see.

I do like what i've seen of Abdullah. He just needs to stay healthy which is easier said than done of course.

:optomistic: