Marshall Could Be Suspended 4-8 Games

[Broncos Mtnman]

I know this might be merged later, but I thought it should be by itself to start.

I hope it's wrong, but Brandon has screwed up too many times this past year.
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=3653

NFL Network's Adam Schefter believes that Brandon Marshall is in danger of a four- to eight-game suspension.

Early indications were that Marshall might only miss one to three, but he's been arrested three times in the last year and has a DUI charge pending, so this new estimate may be more realistic. Fantasy owners drafting early this year must take this into account.

Schefter is a former Broncos beat writer and has excellent connections with anything Denver-related. The league is expected to make a formal decision on Marshall's status by next week.

[Northman]

Good, let him serve his suspension and move on. He deserves something for all his problems that he created.

[silkamilkamonico]

Good, let him serve his suspension and move on. He deserves something for all his problems that he created.


I agree.

Stay out of the bad PR for crying out loud.

Make a decision Marshall.

[NightTrainLayne]

I would think 4 games would be the ceiling. 8 games seems like overkill.

God, I hope it's only something like 2 games. Hopefully, Shefter is just being conservative.

[frauschieze]

I would think 4 games would be the ceiling. 8 games seems like overkill.

God, I hope it's only something like 2 games. Hopefully, Shefter is just being conservative.

He's usually right on though.....

[UnderArmour]

8 Games? Marshall isn't Chris Henry or Tank Johnson, that would be ridiculous.

[Northman]

8 Games? Marshall isn't Chris Henry or Tank Johnson, that would be ridiculous.

Maybe, but it would send a message. Unless he is as dumb as Adams and Henry. :confused:

[Italianmobstr7]

if he is the for 4 or 8 games I will never respect goodell. Either of those is way too long. He shouldn't be suspended at all. He's been convicted of 0 crimes, and has no involvement with guns pike Johnson or jones did.

[silkamilkamonico]

if he is the for 4 or 8 games I will never respect goodell. Either of those is way too long. He shouldn't be suspended at all. He's been convicted of 0 crimes, and has no involvement with guns pike Johnson or jones did.


Pac Man Jones has had 0 convictions also.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

If only he was a Patriot hed get a slap on the wrist. But if Goodell suspends Marshall for things hes never been convicted of for 8 games then that would be the dumbest shit ever. I dont know how anybody can call thereselves a Bronco fan and smile when a player gets suspended for 8 games for petty things. Must be some undercover Charger fans on this forum. Since 95% of the people here feel that the Chargers rule.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Pac Man Jones has had 0 convictions also.

Adam Jones was arrested about 15 times and he does have convictions actually. Just got off with a good behavior ruling by the judge.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Goodell wont lose any respect though, because he has none from me after how he handled the patriots situation. He fined a billion doller organization about 800k and took away the 31st overall pick leaving them with a top 10 pick. Oh yeah real punishment hes dishing out.

[Northman]

If only he was a Patriot hed get a slap on the wrist. But if Goodell suspends Marshall for things hes never been convicted of for 8 games then that would be the dumbest shit ever. I dont know how anybody can call thereselves a Bronco fan and smile when a player gets suspended for 8 games for petty things. Must be some undercover Charger fans on this forum. Since 95% of the people here feel that the Chargers rule.


I got a big grin when i read he would get suspended.

[Buff]

Sucks, but we saw it coming. 4 would be doable, maybe. 8 would hurt quite a bit.

[scott.475]

Might as well brace ourselves for a 4 game suspension. I think that would be in line.

Frankly, I don't care about convictions, to be honest. People don't get arrested 3 times in a year just walking down the street popping their bubble gum; it usually because they are somewhere they probably shouldn't be, doing something they probably shouldn't, hanging with people they probably shouldn't hang with. If it takes a 4 game suspension to teach him he needs to change how he handles his personal issues, then so be it.

[Northman]

Might as well brace ourselves for a 4 game suspension. I think that would be in line.

Frankly, I don't care about convictions, to be honest. People don't get arrested 3 times in a year just walking down the street popping their bubble gum; it usually because they are somewhere they probably shouldn't be, doing something they probably shouldn't, hanging with people they probably shouldn't hang with. If it takes a 4 game suspension to teach him he needs to change how he handles his personal issues, then so be it.

Well, but dude! Getting into physical fights with women is just petty. :lol:

[ktrain]

Not that I condone Brandon's actions, he has made his bed......and has no one to blame but himself for his problems........

but this Gooddell is a real piece of work. He is so high and mighty that he can sit on his thrown and judge anybody and everybody in the NFL, as if HE IS BIGGER THAN THE GAME......

I am sorry but I knew when he took over that he is way too arrogant and way too "corporate" for the job. Tags was an unassuming guy that did everything in the best interest of the game. I think this jaggoff has masochistic tendacies and gets his jollies off by coming down hard on individual players (BUT NOT CHEATING COACHES, BTW).

I think the so called "conduct clause" is just about him pumping up his ego so he can say he left his mark on a game that did not need fixing to begin with. There is no due process, there is no "innocent until proven guilty" there is just BAD-DELL and his one man police, jury and executioner mentality.

I'm sorry, but I don't watch NFL football to see model citizens shake hands and congratulate each other on their public service acts. I watch to see world class athletes compete at the highest level playing the game I love. I really don't give a rats Azz what these players do in their spare time, as long as their infractions are not so major that they end up in prison (let the courts and the penal system take care of the really bad actors).

We are heading for a work stoppage when the current CBA expires, and you are kidding yourself if you don't think that this arrogant *****'s neopolianic complex will contribute to the work stoppage. I don't know of any other union in the world that would put up with unilateral workplace suspensions like this for infractions that occur outside the workplace.

I am very anti-union, and I never thought I would say this, but I will support the union against the owners if they go on strike this time. I think BAD DELL is ******* up big time!

**** BAD DELL!

[NameUsedBefore]

I think he'll get a three game suspension.


Yes, three. I know it isn't an even number for a season that ends on one, but there's seventeen weeks total, which isn't an even number irregardless of the fact three doesn't in anyway go into seventeen and the fundamental problem of there being no contest to the number three yet should in no way indict that I'm laying out a crappy counter-argument because, quite frankly, I like run-on sentences and an altered state of mind.

[Northman]

Ktrain-

You personally may not care what these players do outside of the game but a lot of people do. Young kids look up to these fools and yes, they see how they behave off the field just as much as on and it leaves an impression. I applaud anyone (including Goodell) who has the sack to finally put these morons in their place. There are plenty of great athletes who conduct themselves in a professional manner on and off the field. No reason to allow some of the others to reap the benefit of playing in the NFL for being nothing more than thugs.

[tubby]

Anything over 2 is bullshit.

[honz]

4 would be a stretch...maybe reasonable to non-homers, but anything more than that would be ridiculous IMO. I really hope BMarsh only gets 2 games, although I could live with 4 and would sorta understand.

[scott.475]

I think he'll get a three game suspension.


Yes, three. I know it isn't an even number for a season that ends on one, but there's seventeen weeks total, which isn't an even number irregardless of the fact three doesn't in anyway go into seventeen and the fundamental problem of there being no contest to the number three yet should in no way indict that I'm laying out a crappy counter-argument because, quite frankly, I like run-on sentences and an altered state of mind.

Waiting for you to weave prime numbers and pi into your equation...awesome!

[ktrain]

I respect your right to feel that way.... But I don't see BAD DELL as a guy with a nut sack, I see him as a guy that has such a huge ego that he needs to do anything to leave his mark on a game that was already great. We don't need this guy's ego. You wait and see, this jackass is going to ruin the game with his arrogance. May take a few years and a long work stoppage, but it is coming. I have seen ****** like this many of times in my business life and they usually **** things up!

On the role model side....as a father, I think I have a responsibility to teach my children right from wrong, no matter who they look up to. If you are truly involved in your child's life you can help them understand why that type of behavior is acceptable and what are the consequences of breaking societies rules.

.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Well, but dude! Getting into physical fights with women is just petty. :lol:

What fight? He never touched her he blocked the cab in with a car because she took his cellphone.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Might as well brace ourselves for a 4 game suspension. I think that would be in line.

Frankly, I don't care about convictions, to be honest. People don't get arrested 3 times in a year just walking down the street popping their bubble gum; it usually because they are somewhere they probably shouldn't be, doing something they probably shouldn't, hanging with people they probably shouldn't hang with. If it takes a 4 game suspension to teach him he needs to change how he handles his personal issues, then so be it.

What world are you living in? Did you watch Black in America?

[Northman]

On the role model side....as a father, I think I have a responsibility to teach my children right from wrong, no matter who they look up to. If you are truly involved in your child's life you can help them understand why that type of behavior is acceptable and what are the consequences of breaking societies rules.

.


All very true and kudos to your for being that involved with your child and his well being. But there are still many out there who dont have the type of parenting that your child receives and end up spending most of their days looking up to athletes as their role models. And unfortuantely, it seems the more risque and flamboyant they are the more attention they garner which leads to awe from the young ones. Add in the fact that Goodell holds these guys accountable and says that the NFL has a zero tolerance for that type of behavior should make you happy as a father. IMO

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Not that I condone Brandon's actions, he has made his bed......and has no one to blame but himself for his problems........

but this Gooddell is a real piece of work. He is so high and mighty that he can sit on his thrown and judge anybody and everybody in the NFL, as if HE IS BIGGER THAN THE GAME......

I am sorry but I knew when he took over that he is way too arrogant and way too "corporate" for the job. Tags was an unassuming guy that did everything in the best interest of the game. I think this jaggoff has masochistic tendacies and gets his jollies off by coming down hard on individual players (BUT NOT CHEATING COACHES, BTW).

I think the so called "conduct clause" is just about him pumping up his ego so he can say he left his mark on a game that did not need fixing to begin with. There is no due process, there is no "innocent until proven guilty" there is just BAD-DELL and his one man police, jury and executioner mentality.

I'm sorry, but I don't watch NFL football to see model citizens shake hands and congratulate each other on their public service acts. I watch to see world class athletes compete at the highest level playing the game I love. I really don't give a rats Azz what these players do in their spare time, as long as their infractions are not so major that they end up in prison (let the courts and the penal system take care of the really bad actors).

We are heading for a work stoppage when the current CBA expires, and you are kidding yourself if you don't think that this arrogant *****'s neopolianic complex will contribute to the work stoppage. I don't know of any other union in the world that would put up with unilateral workplace suspensions like this for infractions that occur outside the workplace.

I am very anti-union, and I never thought I would say this, but I will support the union against the owners if they go on strike this time. I think BAD DELL is ******* up big time!

**** BAD DELL!

I wish we could use people post as Sigs on here. Because i feel the exact same way!!

[tubby]

If 15 was a cracker he wouldn't even had to go to NY.

Word.

[Northman]

What fight? He never touched her he blocked the cab in with a car because she took his cellphone.

So your saying the battle marks that both of them received were from Alien abduction? Gotcha.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I respect your right to feel that way.... But I don't see BAD DELL as a guy with a nut sack, I see him as a guy that has such a huge ego that he needs to do anything to leave his mark on a game that was already great. We don't need this guy's ego. You wait and see, this jackass is going to ruin the game with his arrogance. May take a few years and a long work stoppage, but it is coming. I have seen ****** like this many of times in my business life and they usually **** things up!

On the role model side....as a father, I think I have a responsibility to teach my children right from wrong, no matter who they look up to. If you are truly involved in your child's life you can help them understand why that type of behavior is acceptable and what are the consequences of breaking societies rules.

.

I agree if your child looks up to other people more than there parents then your just a bad parent. Period. Something is not right in that household. Goodell is a Ego maniac. Telling players to stop having hair, Changing the whole innocent untill proven guilty to Guilty untill guilty. What kind of crap is going on here? This guy is bad for the game.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

So your saying the battle marks that both of them received were from Alien abduction? Gotcha.

What marks? Please post me the police report that states Marshall beat on this chick and left these marks you speak of. The NFL Marshall. I will wait.

[Northman]

What marks? Please post me the police report that states Marshall beat on this chick and left these marks you speak of. The NFL Marshall. I will wait.

There is no police report because eventually the charges were dropped. But there is a record from police on the scene that both he and the woman had bruises and cuts. And it isnt uncommon for women who get slapped around to not file charges due to fear or some other reason.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

There is no police report because eventually the charges were dropped. But there is a record from police on the scene that both he and the woman had bruises and cuts. And it isnt uncommon for women who get slapped around to not file charges due to fear or some other reason.

So she dropped the charges because she was in fear for her life? Now Marshall is a mad man threatning to take her out if she pressed charges? :laugh::confused::coffee:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Yo jwalk, try not to jinx it this time......


http://www.gambling911.com/Michael-Vick-Finger.jpg

:focus:

[Northman]

So she dropped the charges because she was in fear for her life? Now Marshall is a mad man threatning to take her out if she pressed charges? :laugh::confused::coffee:

When it comes to physical violence anything is possible.

[tubby]

:focus:

What, no one is guilty of anything until they face a Federal Grand Jury?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

When it comes to physical violence anything is possible.

:coffee:

[honz]

This thread sure turned into a cluster ****...

[Northman]

This thread sure turned into a cluster ****...

Not really, im still smiling and happy. Justice will be served.

[BroncoBJ]

Roger suspended Sam Brandon for stuff he did years ago. So I won't put it past him to suspend Marshall. He just loves to suspend people. He thinks hes a God. I really can't stand that *****.



And heres another Goodell pic:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o61/Portis26AnimatedPics/NFL%20Funnies/goodellanaldf5.jpg

:salute:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Roger suspended Sam Brandon for stuff he did years ago. So I won't put it past him to suspend Marshall. He just loves to suspend people. He thinks hes a God. I really can't stand that *****.


And heres another Goodell pic:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o61/Portis26AnimatedPics/NFL%20Funnies/goodellanaldf5.jpg

:salute:

LMAO i love the first pic that was sweet.

[Stargazer]

Whether it's 4 to 8 games for suspension, this seriously hurts the Broncos playoff chances.

Denver doesn't have a Boldin/Wayne to replace Fitzgerald/Harrison on the roster.

[MOtorboat]

What fight? He never touched her he blocked the cab in with a car because she took his cellphone.

So, you testified at the trial, right, because you clearly saw what happened.


I agree if your child looks up to other people more than there parents then your just a bad parent. Period. Something is not right in that household. Goodell is a Ego maniac. Telling players to stop having hair, Changing the whole innocent untill proven guilty to Guilty untill guilty. What kind of crap is going on here? This guy is bad for the game.

You can't stop young children from looking up to other people other than their parents. It's natural for a child to do that.


There is no police report because eventually the charges were dropped. But there is a record from police on the scene that both he and the woman had bruises and cuts. And it isnt uncommon for women who get slapped around to not file charges due to fear or some other reason.

Police Reports: so much better than blind fandom.

[Rex]

But Jared Allen only got 2..........hmmmmmmm

[MOtorboat]

But Jared Allen only got 2..........hmmmmmmm

Technically didn't he get four and it was reduced to two...

[Bronco Bible]

If only he was a Patriot hed get a slap on the wrist. But if Goodell suspends Marshall for things hes never been convicted of for 8 games then that would be the dumbest shit ever. I dont know how anybody can call thereselves a Bronco fan and smile when a player gets suspended for 8 games for petty things. Must be some undercover Charger fans on this forum. Since 95% of the people here feel that the Chargers rule.

I hope he is not gone for 8 ..............but it is better if he learned a lesson at 8 rather than stay on the wrong track & be gone for a season.Imo:coffee:

[BigDaddyBronco]

I wonder how many games Nick Kaczur will get suspended for his "drug adventures"? If he gets much less than Marshall something stinks.

[G_Money]

Gives Brandon's arm more time to heal.

My guess is 3-4. He'll miss the first month, so Scheffler better stay freakin' healthy for 4 consecutive weeks to start the season.

And some form of a running attack would be nice.

We'll see how it goes. Brandon needs to stop doing moronic things and we need to figure out how to throw the ball to someone other than him and Scheffler. It could work out for everyone.

Unless we lose the games, of course. ;)

~G

[BroncoJoe]

Let's hope Royal is all he's advertised to be.

[MOtorboat]

Let's hope Royal is all he's advertised to be.

You mean a return-man that is really only a third or fourth option in the offense? :wave:

[BroncoJoe]

You mean a return-man that is really only a third or fourth option in the offense? :wave:

Dude is going to be smokin' hot. Plus, he seems to have the "Smith Character"

[GEM]

Gives Brandon's arm more time to heal.

My guess is 3-4. He'll miss the first month, so Scheffler better stay freakin' healthy for 4 consecutive weeks to start the season.

And some form of a running attack would be nice.

We'll see how it goes. Brandon needs to stop doing moronic things and we need to figure out how to throw the ball to someone other than him and Scheffler. It could work out for everyone.

Unless we lose the games, of course. ;)

~G


That's what I was thinking while I was listening to them talk about it on the radio this month. Get that arm back to full strength and some time to start lifting and building the muscles back up.

Always the optimist.

[ktrain]

All very true and kudos to your for being that involved with your child and his well being. But there are still many out there who dont have the type of parenting that your child receives and end up spending most of their days looking up to athletes as their role models. And unfortuantely, it seems the more risque and flamboyant they are the more attention they garner which leads to awe from the young ones. Add in the fact that Goodell holds these guys accountable and says that the NFL has a zero tolerance for that type of behavior should make you happy as a father. IMO

Thanks for the kudos, I understand your position and you do have a point about the kids without proper parenting.....although I would submit that if there parents are not providing guidance I think the kids have bigger problems than athlete role models. They have plenty of opportunity for negative influences from TV shows, video games and there own friends which are far more pervasive and influential.

I would also like to point out that BAD DELL is bringing much more attention to the negative behavior (and his glory seeking self at the same time) by making a big deal out of these arrests than if he just left it alone. Tell me, who would even be talking about this DUI trial and Marshall's Dismissed domestic abuse cases if he wasn't subject to a random SUBJECTIVE suspension from the almighty judge, jury and executioner????

To be honest, my biggest problem is with BAD DELL personally, I don't think he is a visionary leader that has the best interest of fans at heart. I think he is a petty corporate weinny that likes to show how tough he is. The NFL will regret the day he was chosen as commissioner.

[NightTrainLayne]

Gives Brandon's arm more time to heal.

My guess is 3-4. He'll miss the first month, so Scheffler better stay freakin' healthy for 4 consecutive weeks to start the season.

And some form of a running attack would be nice.

We'll see how it goes. Brandon needs to stop doing moronic things and we need to figure out how to throw the ball to someone other than him and Scheffler. It could work out for everyone.

Unless we lose the games, of course. ;)

~G


That's what I was thinking while I was listening to them talk about it on the radio this month. Get that arm back to full strength and some time to start lifting and building the muscles back up.

Always the optimist.

On that same glass half-full optimistic spirit, the first half of our season leading up to the bye is the most challenging, and in my opinion, the spot where we're going to struggle with or without BM.

Even with him, we've got a lot of young guys who will be learning. I'm not sure Marshall would be the deciding factor in winning those games.

Get healthy and come back for a strong rebound after the bye and build from there.

[BroncoJoe]

I'm just wondering if the fact that Rod Smith accompanied him to the meeting might have any bearing on Goodell's decision. Especially if Smith remains with the Broncos in some capacity.

[BroncoWave]

On the role model side....as a father, I think I have a responsibility to teach my children right from wrong, no matter who they look up to. If you are truly involved in your child's life you can help them understand why that type of behavior is acceptable and what are the consequences of breaking societies rules.

.

THANK....YOU!!!!!

It pisses me off so freaking bad when people use the "they are a role model" excuse to punish players for some things they do off the field. I'm sorry but if you're a crappy enough parent to not teach your kids right and wrong and to let them go out and do crap because their favorite NFL player did it, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN! You should teach your OWN kids right and wrong, not get pissed off when you see people on setting a bad example. The PARENTS should be the example for the kids!

[jrelway]

what a great way to start the morning. reading this bullcrap. i hope a.sheffters wrong. and to you people that say you'll be happy if he gets the 4-8 game suspension, go back to oakland. 4-8 game suspension for what hes done is total BS. and do not put him in the same sentence as chris henry and pacman jones.

[Mike]

THANK....YOU!!!!!

It pisses me off so freaking bad when people use the "they are a role model" excuse to punish players for some things they do off the field. I'm sorry but if you're a crappy enough parent to not teach your kids right and wrong and to let them go out and do crap because their favorite NFL player did it, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN! You should teach your OWN kids right and wrong, not get pissed off when you see people on setting a bad example. The PARENTS should be the example for the kids!

Maybe you should wait until you are a parent before you start spouting off? :confused:

Kids naturally look up to superstars. Parents can do what they can, but in a society that promotes and gives all kinds of media attention to glorified thugs...it is an uphill battle.

[BroncoJoe]

Maybe you should wait until you are a parent before you start spouting off? :confused:

Kids naturally look up to superstars. Parents can do what they can, but in a society that promotes and gives all kinds of media attention to glorified thugs...it is an uphill battle.

Ditto. Not only superstar athletes and movie stars, it's their friends too, who's parents, well, suck.

[tubby]

A loyal guide: Smith could save Marshall
By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Article Launched: 07/25/2008 12:30:00 AM MDT

Rod Smith's legacy a Fame debateBefore the tears from his retirement party had a chance to dry, Rod Smith could see he's not done with football. The greatest receiver in Broncos history can make one more huge catch for the team.

Brandon Marshall, nearly unstoppable on an NFL field but in real danger of being shut down by a suspension from commissioner Roger Goodell, could use a strong, guiding hand to save the 24-year-old Denver star from ruin.

"Honestly, I want to be a part of Marshall's team, be on his side, helping to teach him how to decipher right from wrong," Smith told me Thursday. "Not to be his dad, because he ultimately makes his own choices. I want to be his friend. A mentor."

Five minutes earlier, Smith was clutching a tissue, wiping away the powerful emotions that formed puddles in his eyes as he announced the end of his brilliant 14-year career as a player.

But there's a major piece of unfinished business for Smith. For him, the Broncos have always been a band of brothers, and a young'un needs a boost.

The undeniable talent of Marshall would be a terrible thing to waste.

"He's an amazing player, and you don't want to see somebody with the opportunity that (Marshall) has blow it," Smith said. "He already is in a far better position to do great things on the football field than I ever was in my whole career. But the thing is: You could let some bad decisions ruin everything."

With a charge of driving under the influence and more romance-gone- bad melodrama in his life than in an episode of "Judge Judy," Marshall was summoned last week to NFL headquarters in New York with some serious explaining to do as Goodell listened. Regardless of your rooting interest in the case or how you weigh the evidence, the meeting portends trouble for Marshall's immediate football future.

"You are always concerned anytime the commissioner calls you in to have a meeting. It's obviously not a good sign," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said less than 24 hours before the opening practice of training camp.

While Goodell has yet to determine whether Marshall has run afoul of the league's stringent personal conduct policy or if punishment is merited, it's not too early to post the over/under line at four games for how long the Broncos might have to survive without their most dangerous receiver.

Will the Commish send Marshall to his room without dinner and ban him from the season opener in Oakland? I wouldn't wager against it, despite my opinion that Goodell's overwrought sense of justice seems to lean more heavily on the Cub Scout Handbook than the American legal system.

"This is a different world now. There's a ton of temptations that can really derail you. I call these players the 'YouTube generation,' because everything you do is on videotape somewhere . . . " said Smith, who accompanied Marshall to New York for the 2 1/2-hour meeting with Goodell.

You can be assured of one thing: If Marshall goes absent from Denver's offensive huddle for more than a month for any reason, the Broncos will be watching with sniffling noses regrettably pressed against the television glass when the playoffs begin.

Marshall is called Baby T.O. for good reason. The list of current Broncos with anywhere near the current athletic ability of Marshall begins with Champ Bailey and ends with Jay Cutler.

"I told (Marshall) a long time ago, after watching his skills: 'You know what? I'm going to help you take my job one day,' " said Smith, who recently opened his home to Marshall for film study, and shared tricks of the trade employed by a master pass-catcher.

"I was showing him how he left 400 yards on the football field last season. It was disgusting. I told him, 'You didn't even have to catch another ball and you could have gained 400 more yards.' "

But as his 102 catches in 2007 attest, Marshall's combination of size and speed can frighten NFL defensive backs like few receivers this side of Terrell Owens, and Denver's budding young star could be the most dangerous downfield weapon the team has developed in its passing game since . . . well, Smith himself, whose run to glory began as an undrafted rookie way back in 1994.

"When I see little kids in the mall wearing No. 80, it means so much to me," said Smith, who thanked the Broncos for teaching him how to be both a champion and a better man.

Now for the real test: Can Smith pass those traits forward?

"Some of the things I saw Marshall doing last year and some of the people I saw him hanging around, I told him, 'Get away from those guys.' And he did it," Smith said. "Anything I can do to help him with cleaning up some of the things off the field, I'm there."

On his first visit to Broncos headquarters as a former player, the sun reflected in the diamonds of two Super Bowl rings perched on the mitts Smith used to catch 68 touchdown passes.

For the ultimate teammate in franchise history, there might be only one greater reward.

Imagine 15 years down the road, at the retirement party for Marshall, if the new holder of every Broncos receiving record dabs at his own tears, and humbly thanks Smith for the strong, guiding hand.


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9989882

[BroncoWave]

Maybe you should wait until you are a parent before you start spouting off? :confused:

Kids naturally look up to superstars. Parents can do what they can, but in a society that promotes and gives all kinds of media attention to glorified thugs...it is an uphill battle.

It's an easy copout to blame people on TV. If you teach your kids right, they should be smart enough not to emulate what they see on TV. If a kid is the type who emulates rappers or athletes because of what they see on TV, that kid probably would have found a way to have gotten into trouble regardless of what they saw on TV.

[Davii]

It's an easy copout to blame people on TV. If you teach your kids right, they should be smart enough not to emulate what they see on TV. If a kid is the type who emulates rappers or athletes because of what they see on TV, that kid probably would have found a way to have gotten into trouble regardless of what they saw on TV.

I don't think anyone's blaming the sports stars or other role models. If they are they need to adjust some priorities.

What they are saying is it doesn't make their job as parents any easier.

[BroncoWave]

I don't think anyone's blaming the sports stars or other role models. If they are they need to adjust some priorities.

What they are saying is it doesn't make their job as parents any easier.

I agree that it doesn't make the job of the parent any easier, but I still don't think people on TV should be crucified the way they are for being bad role models.

[atwater27]

What world are you living in? Did you watch Black in America?

I missed that one. I was busy crushing glass into powder and sniffing it.

[LRtagger]

THANK....YOU!!!!!

It pisses me off so freaking bad when people use the "they are a role model" excuse to punish players for some things they do off the field. I'm sorry but if you're a crappy enough parent to not teach your kids right and wrong and to let them go out and do crap because their favorite NFL player did it, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN! You should teach your OWN kids right and wrong, not get pissed off when you see people on setting a bad example. The PARENTS should be the example for the kids!


That's all well and good in a perfect world, but the fact is there are millions of youths in America that do not have good parents. Not only that, but with the divorce rate in America, figure about half of America's youth are growing up with one working parent. It is pretty difficult to keep a tab on your kids when you are working 40 hours a week and have no other parent to assist.

Also consider kids like, for instance, Travis Henry's. They were born to a deadbeat dad and a mother who purposefully has a child out of wedlock in order to collect welfare and child support. There are 9 in Travis Henry's case alone. How many children do you think there are in America that are in a similar situation? I would say in the 10's if not 100's of thousands. And I would be willing to bet at least 50% (if not more) have a professional athlete that they want to be like when they grow up.

Now, no professional sport's commissioner can do anything about said bad parents, but we all know they exist. What he CAN do something about are his employees that tend to be role models for those kids who do not have parents around to help them make the right decisions.

If you say "well those kids had bad parents so f-them, the athletes should be able to do whatever they want...it's the parents' fault", then those kids will just grow up to be deadbeats in their own right. They wont know any better.

Would you rather an athlete be a role model and help a kid work his way out of the "ghetto", or would you rather have an athlete condone guns, beating women, drunk driving, etc?

Putting the blame on parents is logical in theory, but it is not a reality and is actually pretty irresponsible. The reality is there is not much you can do about bad parents, but these chumps GETTING PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PLAY A GAME should be more than willing to set an example for America's youth. PERIOD.

[BroncoWave]

That's all well and good in a perfect world, but the fact is there are millions of youths in America that do not have good parents. Not only that, but with the divorce rate in America, figure about half of America's youth are growing up with one working parent. It is pretty difficult to keep a tab on your kids when you are working 40 hours a week and have no other parent to assist.

Also consider kids like, for instance, Travis Henry's. They were born to a deadbeat dad and a mother who purposefully has a child out of wedlock in order to collect welfare and child support. There are 9 in Travis Henry's case alone. How many children do you think there are in America that are in a similar situation? I would say in the 10's if not 100's of thousands. And I would be willing to bet at least 50% (if not more) have a professional athlete that they want to be like when they grow up.

Now, no professional sport's commissioner can do anything about said bad parents, but we all know they exist. What he CAN do something about are his employees that tend to be role models for those kids who do not have parents around to help them make the right decisions.

If you say "well those kids had bad parents so f-them, the athletes should be able to do whatever they want...it's the parents' fault", then those kids will just grow up to be deadbeats in their own right. They wont know any better.

Would you rather an athlete be a role model and help a kid work his way out of the "ghetto", or would you rather have an athlete condone guns, beating women, drunk driving, etc?

Putting the blame on parents is logical in theory, but it is not a reality and is actually pretty irresponsible. The reality is there is not much you can do about bad parents, but these chumps GETTING PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PLAY A GAME should be more than willing to set an example for America's youth. PERIOD.

Fair enough. It still annoys me to see all the pressure put on athletes to be good role models but I can see your point.

[Northman]

It's an easy copout to blame people on TV. If you teach your kids right, they should be smart enough not to emulate what they see on TV. If a kid is the type who emulates rappers or athletes because of what they see on TV, that kid probably would have found a way to have gotten into trouble regardless of what they saw on TV.

But its a double edged sword. A lot of these guys who get into trouble also make a lot of dough. And when they showing their bling whether they are athletes, rappers, or whatever kids take notice. And now, because young talent can be spotted from a mile away some kids (NBA related) dont even have to go to college to start making millions of dollars. And their parents who may or may not be financially stable are going to allow this even though they probably know their kid is not mature enough mentally to handle it. So yes, some of these kids would most likely find a way to get into trouble regardless. But because the media puts these guys on a pedestal it makes the choices for these kids much easier to immulate.

[Northman]

what a great way to start the morning. reading this bullcrap. i hope a.sheffters wrong. and to you people that say you'll be happy if he gets the 4-8 game suspension, go back to oakland. 4-8 game suspension for what hes done is total BS. and do not put him in the same sentence as chris henry and pacman jones.

Im excited that he will get suspended. Cant you tell? By the way i cant tell exactly where im supposed to go? CR says we should all go to San Diego because we hold players accountable for their actions. So is it Oakland or San Diego? Ive never been to either but i always love a vacation. :beer:

[jrelway]

A loyal guide: Smith could save Marshall
By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Article Launched: 07/25/2008 12:30:00 AM MDT

Rod Smith's legacy a Fame debateBefore the tears from his retirement party had a chance to dry, Rod Smith could see he's not done with football. The greatest receiver in Broncos history can make one more huge catch for the team.

Brandon Marshall, nearly unstoppable on an NFL field but in real danger of being shut down by a suspension from commissioner Roger Goodell, could use a strong, guiding hand to save the 24-year-old Denver star from ruin.

"Honestly, I want to be a part of Marshall's team, be on his side, helping to teach him how to decipher right from wrong," Smith told me Thursday. "Not to be his dad, because he ultimately makes his own choices. I want to be his friend. A mentor."

Five minutes earlier, Smith was clutching a tissue, wiping away the powerful emotions that formed puddles in his eyes as he announced the end of his brilliant 14-year career as a player.

But there's a major piece of unfinished business for Smith. For him, the Broncos have always been a band of brothers, and a young'un needs a boost.

The undeniable talent of Marshall would be a terrible thing to waste.

"He's an amazing player, and you don't want to see somebody with the opportunity that (Marshall) has blow it," Smith said. "He already is in a far better position to do great things on the football field than I ever was in my whole career. But the thing is: You could let some bad decisions ruin everything."

With a charge of driving under the influence and more romance-gone- bad melodrama in his life than in an episode of "Judge Judy," Marshall was summoned last week to NFL headquarters in New York with some serious explaining to do as Goodell listened. Regardless of your rooting interest in the case or how you weigh the evidence, the meeting portends trouble for Marshall's immediate football future.

"You are always concerned anytime the commissioner calls you in to have a meeting. It's obviously not a good sign," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said less than 24 hours before the opening practice of training camp.

While Goodell has yet to determine whether Marshall has run afoul of the league's stringent personal conduct policy or if punishment is merited, it's not too early to post the over/under line at four games for how long the Broncos might have to survive without their most dangerous receiver.

Will the Commish send Marshall to his room without dinner and ban him from the season opener in Oakland? I wouldn't wager against it, despite my opinion that Goodell's overwrought sense of justice seems to lean more heavily on the Cub Scout Handbook than the American legal system.

"This is a different world now. There's a ton of temptations that can really derail you. I call these players the 'YouTube generation,' because everything you do is on videotape somewhere . . . " said Smith, who accompanied Marshall to New York for the 2 1/2-hour meeting with Goodell.

You can be assured of one thing: If Marshall goes absent from Denver's offensive huddle for more than a month for any reason, the Broncos will be watching with sniffling noses regrettably pressed against the television glass when the playoffs begin.

Marshall is called Baby T.O. for good reason. The list of current Broncos with anywhere near the current athletic ability of Marshall begins with Champ Bailey and ends with Jay Cutler.

"I told (Marshall) a long time ago, after watching his skills: 'You know what? I'm going to help you take my job one day,' " said Smith, who recently opened his home to Marshall for film study, and shared tricks of the trade employed by a master pass-catcher.

"I was showing him how he left 400 yards on the football field last season. It was disgusting. I told him, 'You didn't even have to catch another ball and you could have gained 400 more yards.' "

But as his 102 catches in 2007 attest, Marshall's combination of size and speed can frighten NFL defensive backs like few receivers this side of Terrell Owens, and Denver's budding young star could be the most dangerous downfield weapon the team has developed in its passing game since . . . well, Smith himself, whose run to glory began as an undrafted rookie way back in 1994.

"When I see little kids in the mall wearing No. 80, it means so much to me," said Smith, who thanked the Broncos for teaching him how to be both a champion and a better man.

Now for the real test: Can Smith pass those traits forward?

"Some of the things I saw Marshall doing last year and some of the people I saw him hanging around, I told him, 'Get away from those guys.' And he did it," Smith said. "Anything I can do to help him with cleaning up some of the things off the field, I'm there."

On his first visit to Broncos headquarters as a former player, the sun reflected in the diamonds of two Super Bowl rings perched on the mitts Smith used to catch 68 touchdown passes.

For the ultimate teammate in franchise history, there might be only one greater reward.

Imagine 15 years down the road, at the retirement party for Marshall, if the new holder of every Broncos receiving record dabs at his own tears, and humbly thanks Smith for the strong, guiding hand.


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9989882

rod smith is a true man amongst men. i love this guy. i gotta say, i have to put smith up there with elway as my all time favorite bronco.

[turftoad]

Fair enough. It still annoys me to see all the pressure put on athletes to be good role models but I can see your point.

They get paid millions of dollars for not only being a good athlete but a good person.

That's what they get paid for.

[Davii]

They get paid millions of dollars for not only being a good athlete but a good person.

That's what they get paid for.

Exactly. They get paid to represent their team and the NFL. Not just to play ball.

[MOtorboat]

They get paid millions of dollars for not only being a good athlete but a good person.

That's what they get paid for.

Mandated not by the general public, but by their employer.

[BroncoJoe]

You want to make all that money? Play by the rules.

ALL of them.

Elway said it best: "It's not a right to play in the NFL."

[sanluis]

What the heck did Brandon do to deserve a 4-8 game suspension? :eek:That seems really extreme!! I know he has had some brushes with the law and that they were mostly domestic issues. But I thought most of those charges were dropped?

Even as a rival fan I can't really see him getting suspended. The commissioner was probably just doing some preventive council. How many games did Jared Allen get suspended? Did Brandon do something like Jared? If so then maybe suspend him for the same amount of time--- wasn't that like two games?

[Lonestar]

What the heck did Brandon do to deserve a 4-8 game suspension? :eek:That seems really extreme!! I know he has had some brushes with the law and that they were mostly domestic issues. But I thought most of those charges were dropped?

Even as a rival fan I can't really see him getting suspended. The commissioner was probably just doing some preventive council. How many games did Jared Allen get suspended? Did Brandon do something like Jared? If so then maybe suspend him for the same amount of time--- wasn't that like two games?

http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/search.php?searchid=431705

take your pick..

[OMorange&blue]

I must have clicked on the wrong thread. This one is the "**** BM" thread.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Maybe you should wait until you are a parent before you start spouting off? :confused:

Kids naturally look up to superstars. Parents can do what they can, but in a society that promotes and gives all kinds of media attention to glorified thugs...it is an uphill battle.

Ima a parent. So what exactly are you saying? My child life will not be ran by an athlete. Period.

[Mike]

Ima a parent. So what exactly are you saying? My child life will not be ran by an athlete. Period.

Chances are when your kid is playing football he will want to be LT...not CR. That is what I am saying. No matter what you do, because of the emphasis our society places on superstars your children will look up to them.

[Lonestar]

Ima a parent. So what exactly are you saying? My child life will not be ran by an athlete. Period.

so you think now..

it may not be ran by an athlete but is will indeed be influenced by one unless of course he is a total nerd.. Even then there will be outside influences on your child that you will have very little control over..

take it from a father of 3 and grandfather of ONE and lots of friends of those kids..

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I dont buy that. Not one bit, Your child should be a reflection of you. I have cousins who want to be like LT on the field. Want to be like Champ ON the field. But this thing called Life? They want to be like daddy and mommy and thats the way its suppose to be. We dont play that whole "looking up to athletes or entertainers" thing in my family. Its okay to want to be like them in there prefession but not as a person ever. If people would try installing that into there kids like a good parent would do you would not hae to cry about your kid doing what athletes do.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I hate Goodell like a Raider.

[BroncoJoe]

CR, you'll see when they reach their teenage years. Whether it be friends, athletes, singers/rappers or movie/TV stars, those things WILL have an influence on them.

It is up to the parent to manage those influences as best as possible.

[Broncos Mtnman]

There is no police report because eventually the charges were dropped. But there is a record from police on the scene that both he and the woman had bruises and cuts. And it isnt uncommon for women who get slapped around to not file charges due to fear or some other reason.

Actually, it was a plea bargain.

There was probably enough to go to trial, so Marshall accepted anger management classes offered in leiu of going to trial.

Once the classes were completed, charges were dropped. Had he failed to complete them, he would have gone to trial.

You don't accept a plea deal unless there's enough evidence to possibly convict you.

Getting off on a charge by using legal manuevers isn't equal to being innocent *cough* Ray Lewis *cough*.........

:coffee:

[Benetto]

Man, I don't understand some of you...Some are saying "Good, let him get what he deserves"..WTF...This guy could be our best offensive play maker..The Broncos could be made or broken with this guy...We have a bunch of 1 and 2 year Broncos at WR, who probably don't know the system yet..Some haven't even put on a Broncos uni...On top of all that, we all saw what brandon could do his first year, and how he evolutionized into a top threat his second...His third year should be elite, and some of you are hoping he misses HALF the ****** year...Wow....Go root for another team.

I know some of you will cry, bitch, and moan when we can't get a damn first down against better defenses...When that happens I will remind you about how some were saying "good, let Brandon take 8 games off to think about what he did"...

As for Goodell, I hope he realizes 8 games for a pending DUI charge is way to excessive, and only gives him 1-2 games off. I wish Pat Bowlen was good friends with Goodell like the Pats owner, and we only get a slap on the wrist and have this problem swept under the rug, like Spygate was.

:tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk:

[Mike]

Man, I don't understand some of you...Some are saying "Good, let him get what he deserves"..WTF...This guy could be our best offensive play maker..The Broncos could be made or broken with this guy...We have a bunch of 1 and 2 year Broncos at WR, who probably don't know the system yet..Some haven't even put on a Broncos uni...On top of all that, we all saw what brandon could do his first year, and how he evolutionized into a top threat his second...His third year should be elite, and some of you are hoping he misses HALF the ****** year...Wow....Go root for another team.

I know some of you will cry, bitch, and moan when we can't get a damn first down against better defenses...When that happens I will remind you about how some were saying "good, let Brandon take 8 games off to think about what he did"...

As for Goodell, I hope he realizes 8 games for a pending DUI charge is way to excessive, and only gives him 1-2 games off. I wish Pat Bowlen was good friends with Goodell like the Pats owner, and we only get a slap on the wrist and have this problem swept under the rug, like Spygate was.

:tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk:

I think most people just want BM to get a wake-up call and are hoping that a severe punishment would do that. We all know that the kid has huge potential, but his 2 cent head keeps getting in the way. We know the Broncos are better with him than without him. If it takes an 8 game suspension to wake him up...well, better that now than a season or worse later.

[OMorange&blue]

Actually, it was a plea bargain.

There was probably enough to go to trial, so Marshall accepted anger management classes offered in leiu of going to trial.

Once the classes were completed, charges were dropped. Had he failed to complete them, he would have gone to trial.

You don't accept a plea deal unless there's enough evidence to possibly convict you.

Getting off on a charge by using legal manuevers isn't equal to being innocent *cough* Ray Lewis *cough*.........

:coffee:

YEAH. And that ****** eats babies!!!
BURN HIM!!! BUURRRNNN HIM!!!!

[Requiem / The Dagda]

You guys aren't taking into consideration how this could impact my fantasy league. :(

[Benetto]

You guys aren't taking into consideration how this could impact my fantasy league. :(

Thats ur fault for drafting waaay too early.

[MOtorboat]

I dont buy that. Not one bit, Your child should be a reflection of you. I have cousins who want to be like LT on the field. Want to be like Champ ON the field. But this thing called Life? They want to be like daddy and mommy and thats the way its suppose to be. We dont play that whole "looking up to athletes or entertainers" thing in my family. Its okay to want to be like them in there prefession but not as a person ever. If people would try installing that into there kids like a good parent would do you would not hae to cry about your kid doing what athletes do.

Wow, for someone who jumped all over people for "judging" Brandon Marshall, you sure are on a high horse, aren't you. I guess you must just be perfect.

As far as Brandon Marshall...as a fan of the Broncos, how can I not be concerned about the stupid shit he does off the field. If we are complaining about not making first downs during the first half of the season, we have none other than Brandon Marshall's dumb ass to blame.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Man, I don't understand some of you...Some are saying "Good, let him get what he deserves"..WTF...This guy could be our best offensive play maker..The Broncos could be made or broken with this guy...We have a bunch of 1 and 2 year Broncos at WR, who probably don't know the system yet..Some haven't even put on a Broncos uni...On top of all that, we all saw what brandon could do his first year, and how he evolutionized into a top threat his second...His third year should be elite, and some of you are hoping he misses HALF the ****** year...Wow....Go root for another team.

I know some of you will cry, bitch, and moan when we can't get a damn first down against better defenses...When that happens I will remind you about how some were saying "good, let Brandon take 8 games off to think about what he did"...

As for Goodell, I hope he realizes 8 games for a pending DUI charge is way to excessive, and only gives him 1-2 games off. I wish Pat Bowlen was good friends with Goodell like the Pats owner, and we only get a slap on the wrist and have this problem swept under the rug, like Spygate was.

:tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk:

This is why i question some members loyalty and committment to the Broncos. Smiling when your own could be kicked down was never cool in my book. Even if you dont agree with what the person did. Just shows you the thin line between a fan and a foe. Seem like some of these guys are just fair weather fans.... if were good then hooray, if were bad then its OH WELL. :coffee: keep in mind nobody besides me even mention the work Marshall is putting into the community with the kids...Oh nooo we dont pay that stuff any attention.:coffee:

[Benetto]

As far as Brandon Marshall...as a fan of the Broncos, how can I not be concerned about the stupid shit he does off the field. If we are complaining about not making first downs during the first half of the season, we have none other than Brandon Marshall's dumb ass to blame.



None of this is 1% less than 100% true...but what I don't understand is people rooting for him to get 8 weeks...That's like rooting against the Broncos...I say if you're relieved to have Brandon get 8 weeks because he'll "learn his lesson", go root for another team.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Wow, for someone who jumped all over people for "judging" Brandon Marshall, you sure are on a high horse, aren't you. I guess you must just be perfect.

As far as Brandon Marshall...as a fan of the Broncos, how can I not be concerned about the stupid shit he does off the field. If we are complaining about not making first downs during the first half of the season, we have none other than Brandon Marshall's dumb ass to blame.

Its not an "high horse" Its called realistic parenting. Brandon Marshalls nose has been clean for a long time and he has been in the community heavy helping the youth. None of that even gets a look though. :coffee:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

None of this is 1% less than 100% true...but what I don't understand is people rooting for him to get 8 weeks...That's like rooting against the Broncos...I say if you're relieved to have Brandon get 8 weeks because he'll "learn his lesson" if he'll miss half the year, go root for another team.

Ill toast to that.:beer: Undercover Raider fans.

[Northman]

Man, I don't understand some of you...Some are saying "Good, let him get what he deserves"..WTF...This guy could be our best offensive play maker..The Broncos could be made or broken with this guy...We have a bunch of 1 and 2 year Broncos at WR, who probably don't know the system yet..Some haven't even put on a Broncos uni...On top of all that, we all saw what brandon could do his first year, and how he evolutionized into a top threat his second...His third year should be elite, and some of you are hoping he misses HALF the ****** year...Wow....Go root for another team.

I know some of you will cry, bitch, and moan when we can't get a damn first down against better defenses...When that happens I will remind you about how some were saying "good, let Brandon take 8 games off to think about what he did"...

As for Goodell, I hope he realizes 8 games for a pending DUI charge is way to excessive, and only gives him 1-2 games off. I wish Pat Bowlen was good friends with Goodell like the Pats owner, and we only get a slap on the wrist and have this problem swept under the rug, like Spygate was.

:tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk:


My comments about being "happy" is sarcasm directed at CR's claim that if you dont give Brandon a pass because of his behavior you arent a Bronco fan. At that point i just post whatever i feel like writing at the time. When people on here start challenging people's fandom (har har) the thread becomes utterly useless to me. Chances are Brandon will only get a couple of games but at the same time he DESERVES something. Just because he is a Bronco doesnt exclude him from punishment for bad behavior. If Brandon was a Raider you all would be coming out of the woodwork to crucify the guy.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

My comments about being "happy" is sarcasm directed at CR's claim that if you dont give Brandon a pass because of his behavior you arent a Bronco fan. At that point i just post whatever i feel like writing at the time. When people on here start challenging people's fandom (har har) the thread becomes utterly useless to me. Chances are Brandon will only get a couple of games but at the same time he DESERVES something. Just because he is a Bronco doesnt exclude him from punishment for bad behavior. If Brandon was a Raider you all would be coming out of the woodwork to crucify the guy.

Not really because i didnt know Jared Allen was suspended last year untill he was not on the field. I really dont care about alot of that stuff unless its hurting somebody life. brandon is a good kid who had a hoodrat female as a GF. The hoodrat has been dumped. problem solved.

[BroncoJoe]

Not really because i didnt know Jared Allen was suspended last year untill he was not on the field. I really dont care about alot of that stuff unless its hurting somebody life. brandon is a good kid who had a hoodrat female as a GF. The hoodrat has been dumped. problem solved.

DUI hasn't been.

[Northman]

Not really because i didnt know Jared Allen was suspended last year untill he was not on the field. I really dont care about alot of that stuff unless its hurting somebody life. brandon is a good kid who had a hoodrat female as a GF. The hoodrat has been dumped. problem solved.

True, and hopefully its all behind him. But he still has to answer for those past transgressions. And that is what Goodell is talking to him about now. I guess he waited 2 years to late to get rid of the baggage eh?

[NameUsedBefore]

I can see the arguments some are making about having a longer suspension under the assumption it would teach him a lesson of some sort. I can certainly see the sentiment in the face of all the trouble some players are getting into recently out of their own personal wrecklessness.

[BroncoJoe]

I certainly don't "want" to see him suspended at all.

At the same time, I won't shed a tear for him if he is. You sleep in the bed you make.

[Northman]

I certainly don't "want" to see him suspended at all.

At the same time, I won't shed a tear for him if he is. You sleep in the bed you make.

And thats really the bottom line.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

DUI hasn't been.

Oh yeah lets give him 4-8 games for that.

[broncofanatic1987]

Its not an "high horse" Its called realistic parenting. Brandon Marshalls nose has been clean for a long time and he has been in the community heavy helping the youth. None of that even gets a look though. :coffee:

Marshall's nose hasn't been clean for a while. He was arrested in March of this year. That's not keeping your nose clean for a while. You can't say that because that was four months ago that means he's been clean for a while. He still faces the possibility of charges on that arrest. I don't recall any report of Atlanta prosecutors deciding not to file charges.

He doesn't get a pass on his behavior because of anything he does to help the youth in the community. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you could find a handful of drug dealers who do good things in the community. Does that mean that they should get a pass for their behavior?

I hope any suspension isn't any longer than 4 games. That being said, I won't complain if it's longer. He brought it on himself.

[BroncoJoe]

Oh yeah lets give him 4-8 games for that.

You're blind, dude. It's not just that. It's everything over the past year +. It's great he got rid of the GF, but that doesn't make his transgressions go away either.

I am hoping that Rod going with him to see Goodell will sway his decision though.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Marshall's nose hasn't been clean for a while. He was arrested in March of this year. That's not keeping your nose clean for a while. You can't say that because that was four months ago that means he's been clean for a while. He still faces the possibility of charges on that arrest. I don't recall any report of Atlanta prosecutors deciding not to file charges.

He doesn't get a pass on his behavior because of anything he does to help the youth in the community. I'll bet dollars to donuts that you could find a handful of drug dealers who do good things in the community. Does that mean that they should get a pass for their behavior?

I hope any suspension isn't any longer than 4 games. That being said, I won't complain if it's longer. He brought it on himself.

Okay Raider fan.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

So in 7 pages we have compared Marshall too, Adam Jones, Chris Henry, Ray Lewis, And drug dealers on the corner. It all makes sense now.

[MOtorboat]

So in 7 pages we have compared Marshall too, Adam Jones, Chris Henry, Ray Lewis, And drug dealers on the corner. It all makes sense now.

Um, dude...come back to reality.

We are comparing him to these players because Goodell is comparing him to them and reportedly considering up to an 8 game suspension.

[broncogirl7]

2 game suspension would be enough with a clause that he keeps his act clean from now on. Give him a little leeway.

[Northman]

2 game suspension would be enough with a clause that he keeps his act clean from now on. Give him a little leeway.

The biggest problem with that line of thinking is that its no secret what will happen to you as a NFL player if you dont stay out of trouble. Ever since Jones and Henry have been the staple and template for what not too do i find it amazing that the rest of the players (like Brandon) dont try harder to stay out of trouble. There doenst need to be a clause because Brandon already knows that he shouldnt be getting himself into trouble. Its not rocket science here. By now i think the rest of the NFL knows what Goodell is about and how he expects them to conduct themselves.

[Northman]

So in 7 pages we have compared Marshall too, Adam Jones, Chris Henry, Ray Lewis, And drug dealers on the corner. It all makes sense now.


What? That your a Thug fan?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

What? That your a Thug fan?

No. That people brains are slowing them down into thinking athletes are super human because they can run faster, Jump higher and make more money than you.

[Timmy!]

2-4 games. He's messed up, no doubt. Then again, he's also young and stupid, hopefully (with some of Rod's influence) he will learn. More than 4 games would be way WAY to much. Burning him at the stake is not the answer....

[Hobe]

I was thinking two games suspension, but who knows?

Brandon, you have a man's body and a man's talent. However, you have a boys mind! Grow up!!! There are a lot of teammates, employers, and fan depending on you. If you can't do it that, then stop taking Pat's money and our time and go away!

Just don't feel no love...

[Northman]

No. That people brains are slowing them down into thinking athletes are super human because they can run faster, Jump higher and make more money than you.

I see. So in your expert opinion (as a responsible father "supposedly") its ok for guys and gals to get into trouble on a regular basis and not be accountable for their own actions. Sorry ol' chap, you come off as a major hypocrite when you promote "good parenting" and then make excuse after excuse for individuals who cant get out of their own way.

[ktrain]

What the heck did Brandon do to deserve a 4-8 game suspension? :eek:...How many games did Jared Allen get suspended? Did Brandon do something like Jared? If so then maybe suspend him for the same amount of time--- wasn't that like two games?

Marshall is black and Allen is white, therefore Mashall suspension = 4 X Allen

I am a white guy that can't stand all these claims of racism from AA like Jesse Jackson, but I will be watching the Brandon vs. Nick Kaczar thing carefully I think we have a full blown racist running the NFL

[Northman]

Marshall is black and Allen is white, therefore Mashall suspension = 4 X Allen

I am a white guy that can't stand all these claims of racism from AA like Jesse Jackson, but I will be watching the Brandon vs. Nick Kaczar thing carefully I think we have a full blown racist running the NFL

Thats a huge stretch and quite irresponsible to make such a accusation without proof of any kind.

[ktrain]

Thats a huge stretch and quite irresponsible to make such a accusation without proof of any kind.

This is America and I am entitled to my opinion, and it is not irresponsible to express and opinion if that is what one believes.

Racism is something that can never really be proved, I just see a pattern of BAD DELL coming down harder on African Americans than Caucasians (e.g henry, jones vs. Bellicheat, jared allen). Like I said, if he fails to give Kaczur At least as stiff of sentence (for a MAJOR BIG-TIME alleged crime) as he does for Marshall, I will be screaming racist right along side every affirmative action group in America.

[Northman]

This is America and I am entitled to my opinion, and it is not irresponsible to express and opinion if that is what one believes.

Racism is something that can never really be proved, I just see a pattern of BAD DELL coming down harder on African Americans than Caucasians (e.g henry, jones vs. Bellicheat, jared allen). Like I said, if he fails to give Kaczur At least as stiff of sentence (for a MAJOR BIG-TIME alleged crime) as he does for Marshall, I will be screaming racist right along side every affirmative action group in America.


Who knows, could be different circumstances for each individual. Neither you or i sit in on those reviews or discussions. And im not about to throw around serious accusations just for the fun of it. Some of you guys are just flat out comical to this point. Wish i could use the ignore feature. :lol:

[PatricktheDookie]

Johnson, Henry, Jones = thugs. Pretty simple.

Marshall = idiot.

I don't think 8 games is warranted. But I do believe he should be suspended.

[Lonestar]

Johnson, Henry, Jones = thugs. Pretty simple.

Marshall = idiot.

I don't think 8 games is warranted. But I do believe he should be suspended.

one of the more intelligent posts on here..

The kid needs to KNOW this is not kiddie time anymore that it huts in the pocket book as well as in the mind.. That his team has been let down by his stupidity.. and immaturity..

It is WAY past time to grow up and be responsible..

[MOtorboat]

Marshall is black and Allen is white, therefore Mashall suspension = 4 X Allen

There are too many different circumstances to even consider that. Allen was not at a club with a player who was later shot. Allen did not beat a girlfriend. Allen did not run his hand through a TV. Allen didn't go to Vegas and hang out at Club Wynn.

Allen was caught driving home from local bars (not even clubs...I've been to one of them) in KC...twice. Different circumstances.

Big differences. Apples and Oranges. I know you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm not going to say you're not. But, you'd best put a little more thought into that opinion than black vs. white.

[WARHORSE]

This is America and I am entitled to my opinion, and it is not irresponsible to express and opinion if that is what one believes.

Racism is something that can never really be proved, I just see a pattern of BAD DELL coming down harder on African Americans than Caucasians (e.g henry, jones vs. Bellicheat, jared allen). Like I said, if he fails to give Kaczur At least as stiff of sentence (for a MAJOR BIG-TIME alleged crime) as he does for Marshall, I will be screaming racist right along side every affirmative action group in America.





What a joke. Maybe you should explain what each of those individuals should have received that would have made it equal.

And by the way, the MAJOR BIG TIME alleged crime is no longer alleged. He pleaded guilty to speeding, and the misdemeanor drug charge for possessing 202 oxi contin pills will be dismissed with 6 months good behavior.

Maybe your problem is you dont truly know the facts in each case...........you dont.


Just my opinion of course.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

What a joke. Maybe you should explain what each of those individuals should have received that would have made it equal.

And by the way, the MAJOR BIG TIME alleged crime is no longer alleged. He pleaded guilty to speeding, and the misdemeanor drug charge for possessing 202 oxi contin pills will be dismissed with 6 months good behavior.

Maybe your problem is you dont truly know the facts in each case...........you dont.


Just my opinion of course.

Has he been suspended yet? or called in by Goodell? I mean this has been going on since the SuperBowl....

[atwater27]

Marshall is black and Allen is white, therefore Mashall suspension = 4 X Allen

I am a white guy that can't stand all these claims of racism from AA like Jesse Jackson, but I will be watching the Brandon vs. Nick Kaczar thing carefully I think we have a full blown racist running the NFL

Calling allllll looney toons.

[MOtorboat]

Has he been suspended yet? or called in by Goodell? I mean this has been going on since the SuperBowl....

Again, Kacsur had one incident. ONE. Not five. Big difference. Once again apples and oranges.

More crap to try and defend Marshall.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Again, Kacsur had one incident. ONE. Not five. Big difference. Once again apples and oranges.

More crap to try and defend Marshall.

202 Illegal oxy cotten? :laugh:dude thats drug dealing shit if you want to be honest... If a randon street hustler was caught with that he would be in jail unless he worked with the police on bringing somebody else down. Tis Patriots guy had the FBI on his case not the city police. He should get a year.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Oh and there used to get people high. You know sort of like ILLEGAL drugs... Yes abused legal drugs. He was using them to get high because we know hes not a drug dealer... 1 time or not.

[MOtorboat]

202 Illegal oxy cotten? :laugh:dude thats drug dealing shit if you want to be honest... If a randon street hustler was caught with that he would be in jail unless he worked with the police on bringing somebody else down. Tis Patriots guy had the FBI on his case not the city police. He should get a year.


Oh and there used to get people high. You know sort of like ILLEGAL drugs... Yes abused legal drugs. He was using them to get high because we know hes not a drug dealer... 1 time or not.

So you were a witness at his trial too.

**EDIT**

[BroncoTech]

I think anything from a written warning to a 4 game suspension would be appropriate. If this guy is the NFL receiver version of Mike Tyson I'd like to know ASAP. I don't care about family values or role models or all that nonsense I just want to remember our guys for what they did on the field. Not remembering them for how they fell from grace.

These guys are on notice from their boss. My boss would handle it much the same way. All of our bosses are cut of the same mold we would all be in trouble with our employers if they caught wind of us doing stuff like this.

When I googled Brandons stats just now it has this in red in the middle of his stats at http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9705


Status Alert:
Marshall was noticeably out of shape during Denver's Friday morning workout, taking a knee after just about every route he ran, the Denver Post reports. (Jul 25)


Now does this sound like he's serious or does this sound like Mike Tyson? Because I loved watching Tyson fight but I also loved watching his ulimate and final destruction, it just seemed so deserving.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I think anything from a written warning to a 4 game suspension would be appropriate. If this guy is the NFL receiver version of Mike Tyson I'd like to know ASAP. I don't care about family values or role models or all that nonsense I just want to remember our guys for what they did on the field. Not remembering them for how they fell from grace.

These guys are on notice from their boss. My boss would handle it much the same way. All of our bosses are cut of the same mold we would all be in trouble with our employers if they caught wind of us doing stuff like this.

When I googled Brandons stats just now it has this in red in the middle of his stats at http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9705



Now does this sound like he's serious or does this sound like Mike Tyson? Because I loved watching Tyson fight but I also loved watching his ulimate and final destruction, it just seemed so deserving.

:laugh::laugh: You are aware that hes full speed ready to go but he has not seen nowhere near the amount of conditioning programs he should have because of the arm thing. Marshall will be in camp shape in no time. I guess Marshall is not "Not comitted to the Broncos" either..:coffee: The only guy who played with fire last year when we were getting smacked around by teams. :coffee: Yeah Marshall and Cutler.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Luck? but thats besides the point. Point is Your patriots player is a FELON. if he ddnt rat somebody out he was gettin charged with a FELONY. Its highly Illegal to be getting 202 Oxy cottens under the table :laugh:. Oh great Goodell lets clean up the DUI's but if you want to abuse prescription drugs so that you can maintain getting high without getting tested by the NFL then thats cool eh?:laugh:, And when is Matt Jones going to meet the God-dell? This guy had ounce after ounce of COCAINE. Havent heard anything about that though eh? Goodell is the joke.

[TimBuff10]

Doesn't sound good if he is out of shape. Now if he just came back from spending the offseason at sea level, which I think he did, then I will say that I bet he will readjust back to the altitude in a few weeks.

I never did understand why he and Cutler and others went to ATL for their offseason conditioning. If anything go up to Vail or something like that... Unless the nightlife wasn't up to their standards, I can't see a reason not to go to a place like Vail for training.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

By the way Marshall was dominant today in camps. Catching one handers with the RIGHT hand. Two handers in traffic. The man was showing off. I dont know why somebody feels the need to report some bullshit like he was on the ground after every play.

[Northman]

By the way Marshall was dominant today in camps. Catching one handers with the RIGHT hand. Two handers in traffic. The man was showing off. I dont know why somebody feels the need to report some bullshit like he was on the ground after every play.


Bwhahahahahahaa!

Oh man, your a riot. Hey everyone! CR is the final word on training camp and conditioning for NFL players! Its amazing that he isnt on ESPN's payroll he is so good! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Northman]

Has he been suspended yet? or called in by Goodell? I mean this has been going on since the SuperBowl....

He was called to see Goodell a few days ago. Dont you even keep up with current events? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[BANJOPICKER1]

Whether it's 4 to 8 games for suspension, this seriously hurts the Broncos playoff chances.

Denver doesn't have a Boldin/Wayne to replace Fitzgerald/Harrison on the roster.
I think if its 4 games then we could be ok but 8 and we may have issues.:D

GOOOOOOOOOOO BRONCOS!!!!

[MOtorboat]

He was called to see Goodell a few days ago. Dont you even keep up with current events? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its more convenient for his argument if he hasn't been called in.

[BroncoWave]

Bwhahahahahahaa!

Oh man, your a riot. Hey everyone! CR is the final word on training camp and conditioning for NFL players! Its amazing that he isnt on ESPN's payroll he is so good! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Did YOU see camp? I sure hope so because if not you really have no right to question what he saw.

[Northman]

Did YOU see camp? I sure hope so because if not you really have no right to question what he saw.

Sure i did, im the Punter. And trust me, i have lots of spare time to observe.

[MOtorboat]

Did YOU see camp? I sure hope so because if not you really have no right to question what he saw.

You're right. The Denver Post was lying.

[BroncoWave]

Sure i did, im the Punter. And trust me, i have lots of spare time to observe.

Well tell us, all-mighty punter, what did you observe out of Brandon Marshall in camp? Or are you just going to make jokes about CR's credibility instead of addressing his point?

[BroncoWave]

You're right. The Denver Post was lying.

You're right. The Denver Post is always right. :coffee:

[MOtorboat]

You're right. The Denver Post is always right. :coffee:

A.) I find it hard to believe he was at camp, because he was posting all day yesterday.

B.) Why would the Denver Post lie about that? What they possibly have to gain from doing that? The guy was visibly out of shape, even Cutler said he was in his press conference.

Here www.denverbroncos.com. Look for yourself.

[Northman]

A.) I find it hard to believe he was at camp, because he was posting all day yesterday.

B.) Why would the Denver Post lie about that? What they possibly have to gain from doing that? The guy was visibly out of shape, even Cutler said he was in his press conference.

Here www.denverbroncos.com. Look for yourself.

OWNED


Thanks. Saved me the trouble.

[BroncoWave]

A.) I find it hard to believe he was at camp, because he was posting all day yesterday.

B.) Why would the Denver Post lie about that? What they possibly have to gain from doing that? The guy was visibly out of shape, even Cutler said he was in his press conference.

Here www.denverbroncos.com. Look for yourself.

I'm not saying they were lying. I'm just saying that different people can view different things in different ways. And if CR is lying about being at camp, I take back what I said.

My point, though, was that Anubis didn't have a right to call out what CR saw at camp if CR actually saw it live and Anubis didn't.

[Northman]

My point, though, was that Anubis didn't have a right to call out what CR saw at camp if CR actually saw it live and Anubis didn't.

I can call out whoever i wish and whenver i wish. CR has zero credibility with me on any and all levels regarding football. He is one poster (in my opinion) on this forum with absolutely nothing to back up his outrageous claims. I had to even call him out for not keeping up with current events regarding Marshall meeting with Goodell. And you expect me to take his word over an ACTUAL journalist regarding players in training camp?

[Lonestar]

I'm not saying they were lying. I'm just saying that different people can view different things in different ways. And if CR is lying about being at camp, I take back what I said.

My point, though, was that Anubis didn't have a right to call out what CR saw at camp if CR actually saw it live and Anubis didn't.

Just as a point of view here.. Many folks have an agenda and favorite players..

We all know what Jwalk would have reported something the same goes for the guy that thought Thenry was the greatest thing since sliced bread the rest of the RB would have sucked..

It is not only perspective on the vision of the field but the agenda of the poster..


So lets talk football..

[turftoad]

I'm not saying they were lying. I'm just saying that different people can view different things in different ways. And if CR is lying about being at camp, I take back what I said.

My point, though, was that Anubis didn't have a right to call out what CR saw at camp if CR actually saw it live and Anubis didn't.

I don't see anywhere in any of CR's posts claiming that he was at camp.

Jeeez you just love to argue.

[DenBronx]

sounds like we might need to sign another insurance receiver.

[MOtorboat]

sounds like we might need to sign another insurance receiver.

Eric Parker was released the other day. But, then again, we already have 11 wide receivers on the training camp roster, too.

[NightTrainLayne]

Did YOU see camp? I sure hope so because if not you really have no right to question what he saw.

Was CR at camp?

[Lonestar]

:focus:

Get out of the personal stuff NOW..

This is a bronco talk thread..

[Northman]

For the record BTB,

Kaylore from the Mane makes it a habit to attend training camps every year and he gives a report on what he sees. This is his outtake for the Wide Receivers:


Wide receivers

Brandon Marshall had some drops and looked very tired at times. He was frequently taking a knee early on in practice. Having said that, every time he was in, be it run or pass, he was giving full effort. He is an incredible blocker. Probably one of the best catches I've seen him make was on Bly. Bly had him covered perfectly in the corner of the endzone and even after some jukes and pump fakes from Cutler, Marshall couldn't shake him. Then Cutler through it and Bly stepped inside for the pick and Marshall reached around Bly's body and caught the ball in the endzone. It was cold. He did have some drops, and by the end of practice he had to put the brace back on his arm for pain. So that issue isn't cleared up but it looks like he is getting better.

Darrell Jackson made quite a few nice grabs. In fact he was the most consistent receiver. He didn't do anything amazing but he caught everything and was able to get open relatively effectively.

Royal has the tools. You can immediately see his speed and quickness. He doesn't use his hands to beat the jam at the line and needs to be more physical there. He is also having issues getting on the same page with Cutler. Royal needs to work with him to understand what routes to use and what Cutler likes to do in man on man situations. He had some nice grabs, though.

Colbert was average. I didn't notice him that much. He had a couple of good grabs, but wasn't getting open that much.

Stokely is the most consistent receiver. He is just incredibly gifted at seeing what a defense is doing and adjusting to it. He caught pretty much anything they were feeding him but they didn't play him much.

So i think its safe to say that the journalist that was reporting that Brandon was struggling was pretty much dead on with his assessment.

[slim]

Bwhahahahahahaa!

Oh man, your a riot. Hey everyone! CR is the final word on training camp and conditioning for NFL players! Its amazing that he isnt on ESPN's payroll he is so good! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You ain't seen nothing yet. It gets worse...

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Who said i was at camp?? Lmao i was not at no camp and i never said i was at camp. But to the person who says " Ill believe a journalist over somebody on a forum" You mean like when Christ Mortenson and the whole ESPN was reporting that Plummer had no worries because Cutler looks so horrible in camp that heas 3 years away from starting" You mean those type of journalist huh? There humans with an opinion just like anybody lol. Lol @ journalist being the almighty stamp when discussing something. Marshall has not ran hard and caught passes in months. He could not fully participate in the OTAs. And if you read it correct it said EARLY ON IN PRACTICE. (EARLY ON IN PRACTICE).

[Northman]

Who said i was at camp?? Lmao i was not at no camp and i never said i was at camp. But to the person who says " Ill believe a journalist over somebody on a forum" You mean like when Christ Mortenson and the whole ESPN was reporting that Plummer had no worries because Cutler looks so horrible in camp that heas 3 years away from starting" You mean those type of journalist huh? There humans with an opinion just like anybody lol. Lol @ journalist being the almighty stamp when discussing something. Marshall has not ran hard and caught passes in months. He could not fully participate in the OTAs. And if you read it correct it said EARLY ON IN PRACTICE. (EARLY ON IN PRACTICE).

Just as thought. Pure BS on your part.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Just as thought. Pure BS on your part.

So the article somebody posted didnt say " Early on in practice"? If i misread that then correct me. ESPN was not reporting that Jay was 3 years away from starting? I remember these things i should go dig it up in the archives.

[MOtorboat]

So the article somebody posted didnt say " Early on in practice"? If i misread that then correct me. ESPN was not reporting that Jay was 3 years away from starting? I remember these things i should go dig it up in the archives.

One article, one opinion, almost three years ago now...:tsk:

That's your basis for not listening to journalists? Wow.

[Northman]

So the article somebody posted didnt say " Early on in practice"? If i misread that then correct me. ESPN was not reporting that Jay was 3 years away from starting? I remember these things i should go dig it up in the archives.

Early on in practice has nothing to do with it. The fact remains the report was true in which YOU claimed he was lying. Like i said, the report about Jake is pointless to this particular discussion.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Lol @ the journalist opinions only mattering when it supports something your sayin. But when there wrong we can just brush it off. Its hundreds of bullshit reports journalist have wrote. They do it all the time. Crawl from under those rocks you all sleep under an pay attention. Journalist are not SUPERHUMAN either.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

One article, one opinion, almost three years ago now...:tsk:

That's your basis for not listening to journalists? Wow.

Thats all a journalist is. Is somebody giving an opinion. What makes there better than anybody elses? Because they went to college for it? Is it a Harvard opinion or is it a personal opinion?:laugh:

[Timmy!]

Getting to use this one a lot lately...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/brownpau/sumo-internet-fight.gif

[Northman]

Lol @ the journalist opinions only mattering when it supports something your sayin. But when there wrong we can just brush it off. Its hundreds of bullshit reports journalist have wrote. They do it all the time. Crawl from under those rocks you all sleep under an pay attention. Journalist are not SUPERHUMAN either.


Well, it definitely supports what ive been saying in this thread so its far more than what i can say about your *cough cough* master reporting. :lol:

[JakeGirl]

So Mtn Man, can dream boy Cutler throw long passes to himself? Sounds like he may have to if this is true........

Wow, this team could be a bad joke this year. Without receivers, Jay should call Jake Plummer and maybe learn a few tips on how to run quickly downfield....LOL!




I know this might be merged later, but I thought it should be by itself to start.

I hope it's wrong, but Brandon has screwed up too many times this past year.
_________________________________

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=3653

NFL Network's Adam Schefter believes that Brandon Marshall is in danger of a four- to eight-game suspension.

Early indications were that Marshall might only miss one to three, but he's been arrested three times in the last year and has a DUI charge pending, so this new estimate may be more realistic. Fantasy owners drafting early this year must take this into account.

Schefter is a former Broncos beat writer and has excellent connections with anything Denver-related. The league is expected to make a formal decision on Marshall's status by next week.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e258/BroncosWorld/marshall1_KS_080726.jpg

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Looks like hes squeezing it good to me.

[MOtorboat]

Looks like hes squeezing it good to me.

That's great. It doesn't prove anything except that he's got talent. We all know that, and we all enjoy that. It doesn't change the fact that he showed out of shape, a little over weight and has off the field problems. But, I know, you don't care about that.

btw...it's not just the Denver Post reporting that he's out of shape. It's his quarterback, his coach and everybody else that was at practice.

[BroncoWave]

So Mtn Man, can dream boy Cutler throw long passes to himself? Sounds like he may have to if this is true........

Wow, this team could be a bad joke this year. Without receivers, Jay should call Jake Plummer and maybe learn a few tips on how to run quickly downfield....LOL!

:focus:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

That's great. It doesn't prove anything except that he's got talent. We all know that, and we all enjoy that. It doesn't change the fact that he showed out of shape, a little over weight and has off the field problems. But, I know, you don't care about that.

btw...it's not just the Denver Post reporting that he's out of shape. It's his quarterback, his coach and everybody else that was at practice.

Who cares he hasnt practiced full speed all off season. And he was only "out of shape" in the morning practice. :laugh: There called 2 a days for a reason. There is no off the field problems.

[MOtorboat]

Who cares he hasnt practiced full speed all off season. And he was only "out of shape" in the morning practice. :laugh: There called 2 a days for a reason. There is no off the field problems.

No off the field problems? Um, ok. I guess the visit to Goodell was just a "hey, how ya doing," meeting, then.

http://michaelcorey.ntirety.com/Portals/1101/images/ostrich-head.jpg

[BroncoJoe]

I wonder how the pharmacy business is doing in the DC area.

Other than that, every report I've read has said that B-Marsh is a bit out of shape. Not surprising, really considering his injury.

As to the off-field "problems", only a deaf, dumb and blind man would say there hasn't been any.

[Broncos Mtnman]

So Mtn Man, can dream boy Cutler throw long passes to himself? Sounds like he may have to if this is true........

Wow, this team could be a bad joke this year. Without receivers, Jay should call Jake Plummer and maybe learn a few tips on how to run quickly downfield....LOL!

Only YOU would try to turn this into a Jake vs Jay thread with your 19th post in the past year.

I'm not falling for it.

:coffee:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

His off the feild issues are in the past as far as im concerned. Untill he does something major again. Im not going to sit around and dwell on other people mistakes they have made in there human lives. Knowing nobody on here knows what i might have done. Easy to sit behind the screen and do that. Usually the ones who are the most critical are the ones who has some dark moments on there life.

[MOtorboat]

His off the feild issues are in the past as far as im concerned. Untill he does something major again. Im not going to sit around and dwell on other people mistakes they have made in there human lives. Knowing nobody on here knows what i might have done. Easy to sit behind the screen and do that. Usually the ones who are the most critical are the ones who has some dark moments on there life.

:tsk:

Do you not realize that Goodell is considering a suspension of him...up to 8 games?

[BroncoJoe]

His off the feild issues are in the past as far as im concerned. Untill he does something major again. Im not going to sit around and dwell on other people mistakes they have made in there human lives. Knowing nobody on here knows what i might have done. Easy to sit behind the screen and do that. Usually the ones who are the most critical are the ones who has some dark moments on there life.

I think we have a good idea.

[BroncoWave]

:tsk:

Do you not realize that Goodell is considering a suspension of him...up to 8 games?

I think he's in denial right now.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

:tsk:

Do you not realize that Goodell is considering a suspension of him...up to 8 games?

Wont happen. If Goodell does this he will have to answer to me.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I think we have a good idea.

:confused:

[BroncoWave]

Wont happen. If Goodell does this he will have to answer to me.

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[BroncoJoe]

:confused:

How's the family business going?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

http://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg

:laugh:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

How's the family business going?

What is this family business you speak of? I dont recall mentioning what i do on here yet.:confused:

[BroncoTech]

BM reported out of shape at training camp. Jwalk, in shape at faider camp, but fumbles.

Judging from the photos it looks like if the corner doesn't have hands of stone he reaches up and picks that ball and it's 6 the other way. Come gameday that's how that goes down I'm thinking. You see they have this new thing in the NFL now called 'getting open'. They must have told Cutty don't throw balls away in practice or something.

Cool photos though, thanks for sharing.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

BM reported out of shape at training camp. Jwalk, in shape at faider camp, but fumbles.

Judging from the photos it looks like if the corner doesn't have hands of stone he reaches up and picks that ball and it's 6 the other way. Come gameday that's how that goes down I'm thinking. You see they have this new thing in the NFL now called 'getting open'. They must have told Cutty don't throw balls away in practice or something.

Cool photos though, thanks for sharing.

Its a jump ball being thrown to a SPOT. When the QB throws to a spot he expects his WR to make the play and be there. Marshall was there and made the play. What are you whining about again? Cutty is fine and Marshall is fine.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/brandon.marshall.goodell.2.780600.html

Rivers: Brandon Marshall May Control His Own Fate
Written By Reggie Rivers for cbs4denver.com


It's not a good sign that Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall was summoned to New York last week to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, but there are also reasons to be hopeful that Goodell will not suspend the Broncos star receiver.

Marshall has been arrested three times in the past year, so it will not be surprising if Goodell hits him with a four-game suspension. The commissioner has proven that he's willing to act quickly and harshly with players who routinely get in trouble with the law.

But I believe that there's a good chance that the meeting in New York could serve as a "final warning" to Marshall.

That seemed to be the approach that Goodell was taking with former Titans cornerback Pacman Jones (now with the Cowboys). Goodell flew Jones to New York to talk about his late night activities and club-hopping, and Jones promised the commissioner that he was avoiding clubs and had a self-imposed Midnight curfew.

Jones made these statements in the belief that if he policed himself, Goodell wouldn't have to.

But the night before his meeting with the commissioner, Jones was spotted at a New York strip club, and about a month after the meeting, Jones got a speeding ticket at 12:45 a.m., which proved that he had violated his midnight curfew.

So Goodell suspended him. It could be that Goodell was planning to suspend Jones anyway, but the chronology of the events suggests that Jones may have been able to save himself if he'd made better choices immediately before and after his meeting with Goodell.

For this reason, I believe that Marshall may still have hope. The Broncos receiver took veteran Rod Smith with him to the meeting in New York to prove to Goodell that he has a good mentor into his life. Plus, Marshall is a charming and likeable young man.

During their face-to-face meeting, Goodell had to notice the earnestness with which Marshall speaks, and the tremendous potential that he has to become a positive influence in the NFL. Goodell seems to be the type of man who would allow players to police themselves as long as they demonstrate the ability to do so. He steps in only when they prove that they're unable to do it themselves.

So while the Broncos wait to hear back from the NFL front office about Marshall's suspension, I believe that the receiver's fate may still be in his own hands. If he stays out of trouble throughout training camp, there's a good chance that he can avoid further sanction from Goodell.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/brandon.marshall.goodell.2.780600.html

Rivers: Brandon Marshall May Control His Own Fate
Written By Reggie Rivers for cbs4denver.com


It's not a good sign that Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall was summoned to New York last week to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, but there are also reasons to be hopeful that Goodell will not suspend the Broncos star receiver.

Marshall has been arrested three times in the past year, so it will not be surprising if Goodell hits him with a four-game suspension. The commissioner has proven that he's willing to act quickly and harshly with players who routinely get in trouble with the law.

But I believe that there's a good chance that the meeting in New York could serve as a "final warning" to Marshall.

That seemed to be the approach that Goodell was taking with former Titans cornerback Pacman Jones (now with the Cowboys). Goodell flew Jones to New York to talk about his late night activities and club-hopping, and Jones promised the commissioner that he was avoiding clubs and had a self-imposed Midnight curfew.

Jones made these statements in the belief that if he policed himself, Goodell wouldn't have to.

But the night before his meeting with the commissioner, Jones was spotted at a New York strip club, and about a month after the meeting, Jones got a speeding ticket at 12:45 a.m., which proved that he had violated his midnight curfew.

So Goodell suspended him. It could be that Goodell was planning to suspend Jones anyway, but the chronology of the events suggests that Jones may have been able to save himself if he'd made better choices immediately before and after his meeting with Goodell.

For this reason, I believe that Marshall may still have hope. The Broncos receiver took veteran Rod Smith with him to the meeting in New York to prove to Goodell that he has a good mentor into his life. Plus, Marshall is a charming and likeable young man.

During their face-to-face meeting, Goodell had to notice the earnestness with which Marshall speaks, and the tremendous potential that he has to become a positive influence in the NFL. Goodell seems to be the type of man who would allow players to police themselves as long as they demonstrate the ability to do so. He steps in only when they prove that they're unable to do it themselves.

So while the Broncos wait to hear back from the NFL front office about Marshall's suspension, I believe that the receiver's fate may still be in his own hands. If he stays out of trouble throughout training camp, there's a good chance that he can avoid further sanction from Goodell.

This is bad news. Theres noway Goodell should consider not suspending him. He needs up to 8 games max to learn his lesson. Learning from a classy guy like Rod Smith is not good enough.

[Watchthemiddle]

This is bad news. Theres noway Goodell should consider not suspending him. He needs up to 8 games max to learn his lesson. Learning from a classy guy like Rod Smith is not good enough.

That is good news. We don't know what was said in that meeting. As far as we know, it could be a final face to face warning. Maybe a face to face with the Commish is just what Marshall needs. For all of our sake, lets hope this is the case and Marshall keeps his act in check.

[Lonestar]

That is good news. We don't know what was said in that meeting. As far as we know, it could be a final face to face warning. Maybe a face to face with the Commish is just what Marshall needs. For all of our sake, lets hope this is the case and Marshall keeps his act in check.

your way to logical to be posting here..:salute:

[MOtorboat]

That is good news. We don't know what was said in that meeting. As far as we know, it could be a final face to face warning. Maybe a face to face with the Commish is just what Marshall needs. For all of our sake, lets hope this is the case and Marshall keeps his act in check.

Come on WTM. CR has been in every meeting and at every incident with Brandon Marshall, he knows that Marshall has never done anything wrong and that his ex, the media and cops are framing him to make him look bad in front of Roger Goodell.

[slim]

What is this family business you speak of? I dont recall mentioning what i do on here yet.:confused:

Don't you own three pharmacies?

[Timmy!]

This is a test.

Michael Vick.

That is all.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Don't you own three pharmacies?

No just every Starbucks in America.:coffee:

[MOtorboat]

No just every Starbucks in America.:coffee:

So you own Starbucks, eh?