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Lonestar
09-16-2010, 03:55 PM
Running back Maroney could be part of Broncos' long-term plans
By Mike Klis


If it becomes apparent that newly acquired Laurence Maroney is working out as a running back, the Broncos would like to work out a contract extension before he becomes eligible for free agency after this season.

"Certainly we would love to have an opportunity to keep a young player at that position around for more than a year," Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said. "I think that would be the goal for sure — to give us some guys that really have an opportunity to be here for a long time."

In his first day with the Broncos, Maroney didn't put on the team colors. He didn't practice Wednesday because the transaction did not clear the NFL office until after the Broncos' early afternoon practice.

But Maroney did pass his physical and the trade went through. Besides Maroney, the transaction included the Broncos' sending their 2011 fourth-round pick to New England with the Patriots sending their 2011 sixth-round pick to Denver.

The Broncos' 2011 draft lineup:

First round: One pick.

Second round: Two picks. The additional pick came from Miami in the Brandon Marshall deal.

Third round: One pick.

Fourth round: No picks. It was sent to New England for Maroney.

Fifth round: No picks. Sent to Tampa Bay for right to move up and draft Syd'Quan Thompson and Jammie Kirlew.

Sixth round: Two picks. One from the Pats in Maroney deal, one in trade with Detroit for tight end Dan Gronkowski. The team sent its own pick to Cleveland for Brady Quinn.

Seventh round: No picks. Sent to Detroit for Gronkowski.

But never mind next year. The question is, can Maroney help the Broncos this year? A first-round pick in the 2006 draft, Maroney never has had so much as a 900-yard rushing season. Not often considered, though, is that the Pats and Broncos have pass-oriented offenses that ask their backs to take standing-start handoffs from a shotgun-positioned quarterback.

"If you're playing in an offense that uses three and four and five backs, expectations of 1,500 yards rushing probably aren't realistic," McDaniels said. "This guy has a lot of football in front of him and we're excited to have him."

Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com



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Krugan
09-16-2010, 05:13 PM
Hrmm, he was held out of practice with his thigh injury...

And we are discussing long term contract.

I really hope they let him prove himself HERE before giving this guy a long term deal.

Lonestar
09-16-2010, 07:22 PM
Its is not like we know nothing about him. He is a proven RB that Josh has coached before who has a lot of miles LEFT on him.

He is not a rookie who has stuff to prove. Will he carry the TEAM? He will not be asked to since is a passing based offense.
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nevcraw
09-16-2010, 07:49 PM
Its is not like we know nothing about him. He is a proven RB
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To be fair - he has proven that he could not hold down a job with NE nor beat out a geriatric Fred Taylor.. At this point he has proven nothing that points to deserving a contract extension past the hour.

Northman
09-16-2010, 08:02 PM
Its is not like we know nothing about him. He is a proven RB that Josh has coached before who has a lot of miles LEFT on him.

He is not a rookie who has stuff to prove. Will he carry the TEAM? He will not be asked to since is a passing based offense.
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Well, NE is a passing based offense too but they dont struggle to put up points on opposing defenses. If we dont have the personnel to actually run that type of scheme we need to do something else to try and generate more points on offense.

DenBronx
09-16-2010, 08:35 PM
I think Moreno, Maroney and Buckhalter is a better backfield than Taylor, Maroney and Faulk backfield.

Moreno looks to be the most talented of our core but he just needs to stay healthy. I'd like to see him with a bigger burst once the lanes open. He looks a little slow at times getting to the break. If he can work on that I think we'll see bigger carries and not a 3.3 YPC average.

Bucky seems to be the fastest in the break and that's why we see bigger breakoffs. But the dude can't stay healthy. :tsk:

Maroney was brought in to be the battering ram that White was supposed to be. I could see him putting up 8 td's this year if he stays healthy.

Overall, I feel comfortable with our three headed monster.
:laugh:

rcsodak
09-16-2010, 09:02 PM
I think Moreno, Maroney and Buckhalter is a better backfield than Taylor, Maroney and Faulk backfield.

Moreno looks to be the most talented of our core but he just needs to stay healthy. I'd like to see him with a bigger burst once the lanes open. He looks a little slow at times getting to the break. If he can work on that I think we'll see bigger carries and not a 3.3 YPC average.

Bucky seems to be the fastest in the break and that's why we see bigger breakoffs. But the dude can't stay healthy. :tsk:

Maroney was brought in to be the battering ram that White was supposed to be. I could see him putting up 8 td's this year if he stays healthy.

Overall, I feel comfortable with our three headed monster.
:laugh:

The 5-11 210 "battering ram"!

Who doesn't dish out punishment but receives it.

:shocked:

LRtagger
09-16-2010, 09:04 PM
Sixth round: Two picks. One from the Pats in Maroney deal, one in trade with Detroit for tight end Dan Gronkowski. The team sent its own pick to Cleveland for Brady Quinn.

Seventh round: No picks. Sent to Detroit for Gronkowski.




This isn't right. We sent a 7th to Det in the Scheffler trade where we got a 5th back. Where did that 5th go?

Did we get a 6th with Gronkowski in the Smith trade?

LRtagger
09-16-2010, 09:09 PM
Not sure what I was thinking...just looked it up and the Scheffler picks were for this past draft.

Still it doesn't make sense that we traded Smith and a 7th for Gronkowski and a 6th. Tht is the first I have heard of that.

rcsodak
09-16-2010, 09:15 PM
Not sure what I was thinking...just looked it up and the Scheffler picks were for this past draft.

Still it doesn't make sense that we traded Smith and a 7th for Gronkowski and a 6th. Tht is the first I have heard of that.

6's/7's are throw-aways, imo. I'd be happy with a buttload of 4's.

LRtagger
09-16-2010, 09:30 PM
watch your mouth boy. Hillis was a 7th rounder!

honz
09-16-2010, 09:39 PM
Not sure what I was thinking...just looked it up and the Scheffler picks were for this past draft.

Still it doesn't make sense that we traded Smith and a 7th for Gronkowski and a 6th. Tht is the first I have heard of that.
Yes, there were definitely draft picks involved, but no one was ever sure what they were exactly. This is the first I've seen someone actually state what the picks were exactly.

Lonestar
09-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Well, NE is a passing based offense too but they dont struggle to put up points on opposing defenses. If we dont have the personnel to actually run that type of scheme we need to do something else to try and generate more points on offense.

One would hope that the Scheme is similar, since it was born there and brought here.

The passing game is a tad more productive there with welker and moss as well as Faulk and who ever the RB de jour is.

And last but not least Brady pitching the ball around.

While I'm willing to give our guys a bit more time in working our all the issue I still believe we may be a TAD bit behind the Pats in the talent and EXPERIENCE department running this O.

How about we let them do it for more than one game before we heat up the Tar and pluck the chickens, :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

nevcraw
09-16-2010, 10:12 PM
6's/7's are throw-aways, imo.

that's pretty close to the philosphy our coach and FO. However, their throw-aways have no ceiling.

Northman
09-16-2010, 10:12 PM
One would hope that the Scheme is similar, since it was born there and brought here.

The passing game is a tad more productive there with welker and moss as well as Faulk and who ever the RB de jour is.

And last but not least Brady pitching the ball around.

I think the biggest difference is Brady personally.


While I'm willing to give our guys a bit more time in working our all the issue I still believe we may be a TAD bit behind the Pats in the talent and EXPERIENCE department running this O.

How about we let them do it for more than one game before we heat up the Tar and pluck the chickens, :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Of course, they have time. But really even going back to last year we are still fine in between the 20's. But we still have some issues on 3rd down and in the redzone. And last year we had a guy who was on the "Moss" calibur so something is still missing. It could be youth or it could be play calling. Maybe both. Hopefully we see improvement in those areas throughout the year.

Lonestar
09-16-2010, 10:18 PM
I think the biggest difference is Brady personally.



Of course, they have time. But really even going back to last year we are still fine in between the 20's. But we still have some issues on 3rd down and in the redzone. And last year we had a guy who was on the "Moss" caliber so something is still missing. It could be youth or it could be play calling. Maybe both. Hopefully we see improvement in those areas throughout the year.

Pretty close. As far as Moss quality maybe on a bubble screen but getting into the END ZONE I do not think so. But then I could be wrong.

Yes until the OLINE solidifies and they play next to each other for more the 30 consecutive plays the short yardage and RED zone will be a long standing issue.

Gonna be posting from the road the next few days will be traveling to see VB in OKC.

Try not to miss me much. Or complain because my mobile posts look so bad. no spell check I can find on Blackberry and going from a 21" HD screen to 2.5 is even worse but it beats carrying a laptop.

Northman
09-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Pretty close. As far as Moss quality maybe on a bubble screen but getting into the END ZONE I do not think so. But then I could be wrong.

Yes until the OLINE solidifies and they play next to each other for more the 30 consecutive plays the short yardage and RED zone will be a long standing issue.

Gonna be posting from the road the next few days will be traveling to see VB in OKC.

Try not to miss me much. Or complain because my mobile posts look so bad. no spell check I can find on Blackberry and going from a 21" HD screen to 2.5 is even worse but it beats carrying a laptop.

Just download a spellcheck. :D

robert ethan
09-16-2010, 10:30 PM
This isn't right. We sent a 7th to Det in the Scheffler trade where we got a 5th back. Where did that 5th go?

Did we get a 6th with Gronkowski in the Smith trade?
The 5th for Scheffler brought Perrish Cox. Who, ironically enough, pushed Smith out to Detroit for Gronkowski. Broncos had no 7th round pick last year as that went to Detroit in the Scheffler deal as well (they almost had to pay someone to take the guy, apparently). Broncs then traded T. Bay for a pair of 7th which brought Kirlew and Thompson. I'm not totally sure of the picks involved in the Smith/Gronkowski deal. I read somewhere that the 6th that came with Gronkowski was conditional and could move all the way up to a 4th if Smith met certain benchmarks this season.

DenBronx
09-17-2010, 01:16 AM
The 5-11 210 "battering ram"!

Who doesn't dish out punishment but receives it.

:shocked:

Laurence Maroney | # | RB

Denver Broncos | Official Team Site



Height: 5-11 Weight: 220 Age: 25

Born: 2/5/1985 St. Louis , MO

College: Minnesota

Experience: 5th season



He was a little heavier in 2009. Looks to have lost a bit of weight but 220 is still no slouch and Maroney runs tough. IIRC most of his TD's were inside the 20.

Lonestar
09-17-2010, 01:17 AM
Just download a spellcheck. :D

To little RAM as we speak have other prioirities.

Guess Y'all will have to deal with it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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PAINTERDAVE
09-17-2010, 01:20 AM
About all the draft position picks next season...

who knows where we will end up, the way Josh trades up and down and all around?

Look at how he manipulated the picks to get up to 2 first round picks this year?

I just dont see it as any big deal... swapping a 4 for a 6 and getting somebody like Maroney who can contribute right now.

rcsodak
09-17-2010, 08:41 AM
watch your mouth boy. Hillis was a 7th rounder!
lol...yeah I know. Like I said. :D
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rcsodak
09-17-2010, 08:45 AM
that's pretty close to the philosphy our coach and FO. However, their throw-aways have no ceiling.
1 high pick dealt. For all we know, gronk may be a keeper. Not yet time to label them being worse than others.
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rcsodak
09-17-2010, 09:01 AM
Laurence Maroney | # | RB

Denver Broncos | Official Team Site



Height: 5-11 Weight: 220 Age: 25

Born: 2/5/1985 St. Louis , MO

College: Minnesota

Experience: 5th season



He was a little heavier in 2009. Looks to have lost a bit of weight but 220 is still no slouch and Maroney runs tough. IIRC most of his TD's were inside the 20.
My point was he's not a "pile mover". King was on Sirius NFL. Said he labeled maroney as 'inconsequential'. High on him as a rook. But says he's NOT a hard worker (REASON HE'S ALWAYS HURT?). Does NOT seem to fight for extra yards if he runs into a pile on the LOS. Says he wasn't a good fit with the Pats team philosophy and not real sure why McD would want him. Guess we'll see.
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nevcraw
09-17-2010, 01:54 PM
My point was he's not a "pile mover". King was on Sirius NFL. Said he labeled maroney as 'inconsequential'
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exactly... good post.

Ravage!!!
09-17-2010, 01:58 PM
I read somewhere that the 6th that came with Gronkowski was conditional and could move all the way up to a 4th if Smith met certain benchmarks this season.

We know that can't be the case because we just traded away our 4th round pick. The NFL wouldn't have allowed the trade for Maroney if our 4th was a conditional pick to go to someone else.

robert ethan
09-17-2010, 11:17 PM
We know that can't be the case because we just traded away our 4th round pick. The NFL wouldn't have allowed the trade for Maroney if our 4th was a conditional pick to go to someone else.

It's the other way round. The 4th would be coming to Denver if Alf has a sensational year in Detroit, otherwise 5th or 6th at worst.

rcsodak
09-19-2010, 10:24 PM
We know that can't be the case because we just traded away our 4th round pick. The NFL wouldn't have allowed the trade for Maroney if our 4th was a conditional pick to go to someone else.

:confused:




I read somewhere that the 6th that came with Gronkowski was conditional and could move all the way up to a 4th if Smith met certain benchmarks this season.