Marshall Met With Goodell

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Broncos' Marshall called on commish carpet
Goodell, WR deal with off-field problems
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 07/24/2008 01:25:07 AM MDT


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Broncos wideout Marshall arrestedBrandon Marshall has been sent to the NFL's version of the principal's office.

Two NFL sources said Marshall, the Broncos' star receiver who had 102 receptions last season, met Friday morning with league commissioner Roger Goodell in New York.

Accompanying Marshall during the 2 1/2-hour meeting were his attorney, Harvey Steinberg, and veteran Broncos receiver Rod Smith, who will announce his retirement this afternoon at the team's headquarters.

The purpose of the meeting was not to discuss the Broncos' chances of rebounding from back-to-back disappointing seasons. Of concern was the list of Marshall's off-field troubles that grew in the past year.

Goodell is expected to announce a decision next week on whether he will suspend Marshall, and if so, for how long.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said recently he didn't think Marshall should be suspended, saying most of his troubles stem from a stormy relationship that has since been terminated.

But while the presence of Smith, whose professionalism the league hopes to represent, couldn't have hurt Marshall, judicial precedence has not been kind to players brought before Goodell.

Last year, Goodell met with Adam Jones — then known as "Pacman" — Chris Henry and Terry "Tank" Johnson regarding their personal conduct transgressions. Jones received a minimum one-year suspension, and Henry and Johnson both were suspended for eight games.

Marshall is not likely to be suspended that long, primarily because despite all his incidents, he never has been convicted of a crime since joining the NFL in 2006, when the Broncos drafted him in the fourth round. He was arrested on charges of domestic violence and false imprisonment in March 2007, but those charges were dropped two months later.

In October 2007, Marshall was arrested for driving under the influence, but he has pled not guilty to that charge and his trial is pending.

Goodell, however, won't wait for due legal process before announcing his decision.

According to the league's strengthened personal conduct policy, which Goodell wrote and announced last year: "It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard. . . . Persons who fail to live up to this standard are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."

While the commissioner considers Marshall's case, Bronco-land braces.

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had Rod Smith with him :laugh: I dont think he will be suspended.

[WARHORSE]

I predict a suspended suspension.

Two game suspension to be suspended pending 1 year good behavior. Any infractions kicks the two game suspension into immediate effect, with another meeting scheduled with the commish.

[Tned]

I predict a suspended suspension.

Two game suspension to be suspended pending 1 year good behavior. Any infractions kicks the two game suspension into immediate effect, with another meeting scheduled with the commish.

I hope you are right. I have been afraid that he's had enough of these "domestic violence" charges, that unless he can make a very compelling case about how this ex-girlfriend is just trying to ruin him, when combined with his DUI, will lead to a couple game suspension.

Let's just hope Goodel isn't thinking about how Henry, a former Bronco, made him look like a chump on the technicality stuff last year and Goodel decides to take it out on the Broncos and Marshall.

[MOtorboat]

Wait, I thought Goodell wasn't going to do anything to Marshall :rolleyes:

[Den21vsBal19]

Regardless of who sought out who, it's good to see Rod involved, he's made some of the same mistakes as Brandon (domestic violence, IIRC), and has come through to be considered the pro's pro.

However the league's stance and this line does worry me..............


It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime

[Davii]

Definitely hoping for the best. Not only with the outcome of this, but for Marshall. This young man has too much talent and promise to piss it away acting the fool.

[Traveler]

My hope is that Goodell won't suspend Marshall. But, it wouldn't suprise me if Marshall misses the first month of the season.

[LRtagger]

I kind of hope he does get suspended...maybe it will be a good kick in the ass for him. Nothing else has seemed to work thus far. Maybe something more drastic will make him get his priorities straight.

Yea it will suck for him to be out for a few games, but if it will help him on a personal level and keep him out of trouble in the future, it's more than worth it.

[Retired_Member_001]

Regardless of who sought out who, it's good to see Rod involved, he's made some of the same mistakes as Brandon (domestic violence, IIRC), and has come through to be considered the pro's pro.

However the league's stance and this line does worry me..............

The NFL wants to control it's athletes. Much more than in the NBA. I'll be straight up, the NFL doesn't like young Black athletes. They want young Black athletes to act like old White men. I agree with coming down hard on players who do bad things, but there are certain things the NFL are trying to impose which just aren't right. See the possible ban on Dreadlocks.

[MOtorboat]

The NFL wants to control it's athletes. Much more than in the NBA. I'll be straight up, the NFL doesn't like young Black athletes. They want young Black athletes to act like old White men. I agree with coming down hard on players who do bad things, but there are certain things the NFL are trying to impose which just aren't right. See the possible ban on Dreadlocks.

It has nothing to do with race.

My employer expects me to be a professional. That means not going out and getting DUIs and assault charges and being arrested. That has nothing to do with being a young, black athlete. That is just being stupid, unprofessional and acting like a teenager. I don't think its too much to ask at all, and it certainly has nothing to do with race, but maturity level.

Besides, Jared Allen is the poster-child for drinking and driving right now. He does it again, he's going to get a year suspension.

[Retired_Member_001]

It has nothing to do with race.

My employer expects me to be a professional. That means not going out and getting DUIs and assault charges and being arrested. That has nothing to do with being a young, black athlete. That is just being stupid, unprofessional and acting like a teenager. I don't think its too much to ask at all, and it certainly has nothing to do with race, but maturity level.

Besides, Jared Allen is the poster-child for drinking and driving right now. He does it again, he's going to get a year suspension.

I definitely agree guys should be punished for that sort of thing. It's unnaceptable.

I was responding to this:


It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime

[BeefStew25]

The NFL wants to control it's athletes. Much more than in the NBA. I'll be straight up, the NFL doesn't like young Black athletes. They want young Black athletes to act like old White men. I agree with coming down hard on players who do bad things, but there are certain things the NFL are trying to impose which just aren't right. See the possible ban on Dreadlocks.

Oh give me a break, Wookie.

You want Goodell to condone smacking a woman around?

Dreadlocks is such a minor issue.

Your boy David Stern is making the rapists...er..NBA players adhere to a dress code. I have not seen Goodell to that,

[BeefStew25]

I definitely agree guys should be punished for that sort of thing. It's unnaceptable.

I was responding to this:

There is plenty I can do to bring unwanted attention to my company without breaking the law.

These guys are employees. If they don't like the rules the bossman implements, they are free to play in the CFL or something.

I mean, god forbid you ask your employees to act like humans.

[Retired_Member_001]

Oh give me a break, Wookie.

You want Goodell to condone smacking a woman around?

Dreadlocks is such a minor issue.

Your boy David Stern is making the rapists...er..NBA players adhere to a dress code. I have not seen Goodell to that,

I'm not talking about that. I just believe the NFL will target black athletes. There's nothing wrong with me believing that. Punish the women beaters, the drunken drivers and so forth. Don't go looking for ways to target them though.

David Stern is not my boy, I'd like to lock him in a cage with Roger Goodell so they can discuss how to destroy their respective leagues.

[Davii]

I'm not talking about that. I just believe the NFL will target black athletes. There's nothing wrong with me believing that. Punish the women beaters, the drunken drivers and so forth. Don't go looking for ways to target them though.

David Stern is not my boy, I'd like to lock him in a cage with Roger Goodell so they can discuss how to destroy their respective leagues.

I hadn't heard anything about the possible dreadlock ban, that would be ridiculous IMO.

However, I have to completely disagree with your contention that he is, or will, unfairly target black athletes.

If someone breaks a law, or has repeated negative run ins or publicity, they have targeted themselves. There is not a player in the league that can say Goodell has done anything to him because he is black.

If being a black athlete means DUIs, Domestic incidents, drug charges, weapons charges, etc. then they deserve to be targeted. However, we all know that isn't the case.

[Den21vsBal19]

Oh I agree.

To be honest though, the window dressing stuff doesn't bother me, plenty of employers have dress & appearance codes.

That one phrase does though.........does the league think it's above the law? A verdict of not guilty should be the end of the matter, unless a specific,contracted rule has been breached.............and an accusation of an offense should never be punished to the extent that it effects an individual's livelihood.

[Retired_Member_001]

All I'll say is this, if Tom Brady and Randy Moss are both convicted for illegal possesion of a weapon, who do you think would get the longer ban? Just think about that.

[Davii]

All I'll say is this, if Tom Brady and Randy Moss are both convicted for illegal possesion of a weapon, who do you think would get the longer ban? Just think about that.

Ok... Let's think about that...

Randy Moss would.

Is it because he's black?

No. It's because he has made the league look bad on other occasions. Leaving the field before games are over, publicly questioning his team and the commisioner, admitting to being a pothead in interviews, etc.

[Retired_Member_001]

Ok... Let's think about that...

Randy Moss would.

Is it because he's black?

No. It's because he has made the league look bad on other occasions. Leaving the field before games are over, publicly questioning his team and the commisioner, admitting to being a pothead in interviews, etc.

Made the league look bad means he should get a longer ban? That's not right. Did you even see the Super Bowl last year? The WHOLE Patriots team tried to leave early.

Sub Randy Moss for a good attitude Black player then, who gets the longer ban?

[MOtorboat]

Made the league look bad means he should get a longer ban? That's not right. Did you even see the Super Bowl last year? The WHOLE Patriots team tried to leave early.

Sub Randy Moss for a good attitude Black player then, who gets the longer ban?

I'm sorry, did you not remember him walking off the field before the game was over a few years back?

This has nothing to do with black players. It has everything to do with respect and maturity.

If the black players think they are being targeted, maybe they should stay out of the damn strip clubs and bars.

[Retired_Member_001]

I'm sorry, did you not remember him walking off the field before the game was over a few years back?

This has nothing to do with black players. It has everything to do with respect and maturity.

If the black players think they are being targeted, maybe they should stay out of the damn strip clubs and bars.

Yes I do remember.

You still haven't answered my question though, do you HONESTLY believe that a black athlete would get the same ban as a white athlete?

[Davii]

Made the league look bad means he should get a longer ban? That's not right. Did you even see the Super Bowl last year? The WHOLE Patriots team tried to leave early.

Sub Randy Moss for a good attitude Black player then, who gets the longer ban?

Yes making the league look bad will lengthen your ban. In the end, that's what it is all about, protecting the league.

Ok, i'll play your silly game Wookie. I'll say Tom Brady and Ladinian Tomlinson get arrested and convicted of the exact same crime, etc.

They get the same suspension, not a doubt in my mind.

[Retired_Member_001]

Yes making the league look bad will lengthen your ban. In the end, that's what it is all about, protecting the league.

Ok, i'll play your silly game Wookie. I'll say Tom Brady and Ladinian Tomlinson get arrested and convicted of the exact same crime, etc.

They get the same suspension, not a doubt in my mind.

Well I respectfully disagree and I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

:salute:

[SR]

The NFL wants to control it's athletes. Much more than in the NBA. I'll be straight up, the NFL doesn't like young Black athletes. They want young Black athletes to act like old White men. I agree with coming down hard on players who do bad things, but there are certain things the NFL are trying to impose which just aren't right. See the possible ban on Dreadlocks.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time.

[Davii]

Well I respectfully disagree and I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

:salute:

The main reason I say that is I have seen nothing from Goodell to make me think otherwise. Has he already gone easy on a white player while slamming a black player for the exact same thing?

If he does, I guarantee he will be called out on it. These players aren't stupid, although some act like it, most have a college degree and ALL have enough money to pay for an attorney and sue the hell out of the league if there is any evidence of racial discrimination.

[MOtorboat]

Yes I do remember.

You still haven't answered my question though, do you HONESTLY believe that a black athlete would get the same ban as a white athlete?

Yes.

It is not about race.

If the black athletes want to quit looking like the whipping boys for Goodell, then maybe they should stay out of the damn clubs.

I have no sympathy for that argument one bit. It's a load of crap.

[Fan in Exile]

Just to clarify something there isn't a ban on dreadlocks. There's a ban on long hair (dreadlocks or otherwise) covering up the name on the uniform. The player has two choices he could trim them, or he could tuck them into his uniform. Or number three I suppose he could just pay the fine.

Black players are not the only ones with long hair and no ones is even being made to cut off their hair.

[SR]

I've often thought black people got themselves in to trouble all on their own because it's their culture, not because "the man" is out to get them. Quit acting like a retard and people will quit treating you like a retard. It's that simple.

[Retired_Member_001]

Just to clarify something there isn't a ban on dreadlocks. There's a ban on long hair (dreadlocks or otherwise) covering up the name on the uniform. The player has two choices he could trim them, or he could tuck them into his uniform. Or number three I suppose he could just pay the fine.

Black players are not the only ones with long hair and no ones is even being made to cut off their hair.

The original ban was supposed to be on dreadlocks and the league then changed it to "long hair".

[LRtagger]

The original ban was supposed to be on dreadlocks and the league then changed it to "long hair".


So whats the problem?

[Flatinum]

Please give an example of a white player that got off easy or didn't get the punishment he deserved.

[Retired_Member_001]

Please give an example of a white player that got off easy or didn't get the punishment he deserved.

There's not been an example yet. I'm saying that if a black and white player were caught on the same charges, the league would go harder on the black player.

[BigDaddyBronco]

We'll test Wookiee's theory with the suspension Matt Jones gets.

[turftoad]

The original ban was supposed to be on dreadlocks and the league then changed it to "long hair".

The Somoan's were sporting long hair out of thier helmets long before dreadlocks out of the helmet became stylish.
It has NOTHING to do with dreadlocks or race.

The owners have a RIGHT to set a dress and conduct code if feel it is neccesary.

I don't know what the % of black players are in the NFL but I would guess it's at least 80%.
So........... if the same amount of black players get into trouble as white players it would be 8 black to 2 white. If you use those &'s, it turns out about right as to the players Goodell needs to come down on.

I hate when people try to turn this into a racial thing. Why would they, the % of black players dominate the league.

As far as Marshall goes, I hope they suspend his ass for at least two games. He needs to grow up and learn right from wrong, it's not that hard.

[Mike]

All I'll say is this, if Tom Brady and Randy Moss are both convicted for illegal possesion of a weapon, who do you think would get the longer ban? Just think about that.

You got to be kidding me. :tsk:

I believe, in such an instance, that both will be evaluated based upon their crime and their history. Given the same crime/history then I fully believe that both would receive the same punishment.

Maintain your conspiracy theories if you want, but expect to get called on that bs. Until you have some kind of substantial proof to back up your allegations I suggest you get off this train.

Also, it is not about dreads...it is about appearance and professionalism not about race.

[UnderArmour]

Please give an example of a white player that got off easy or didn't get the punishment he deserved.

Easy. Jared Allen.

[MHCBill]

There's not been an example yet. I'm saying that if a black and white player were caught on the same charges, the league would go harder on the black player.I believe you are a racist.

[Davii]

The original ban was supposed to be on dreadlocks and the league then changed it to "long hair".

So you're saying the league saw a problem with a proposed rule and made sure it was enforcing the rule fairly without unnecessarily targeting any particular racial group?

What's the problem?

[Retired_Member_001]

I believe you are a racist.

I'm White, how could I be racist to fellow White people?

[BeefStew25]

I believe you are a racist.

He is actually suffering from White Guilt. The young ones usually do.

[Retired_Member_001]

Easy. Jared Allen.

Plus One.

Multiple DUI charges and substance abuse. What did they give him?

[Retired_Member_001]

He is actually suffering from White Guilt. The young ones usually do.

I believe Black people DO make a meal out of alot of things that aren't that big. However, this is not one of them.

[D1g1tal j1m]

I would like to see Marshall get a 1 game suspension just so it can be a kick in the behind that gets Marshall to open his eyes at what can be taken away from him if he continues on his current path.

I am a Broncos homer to the bone but sometimes people need to be punished for their acts. He isn't a child anymore, he is a grown man that is acting like one. Time to take the kid gloves off and treat him as the responsible adult that he should be...

[BeefStew25]

Plus One.

Multiple DUI charges and substance abuse. What did they give him?

Suspended four games, reduced to two in line with Goodell's good behavior policy.

[Northman]

Rod being with him helps immensely but i think he still gets a couple of games. For the sake of the team i hope not but guys like Pac Man and Henry would be outraged if he doesnt at least get something.

[WARHORSE]

Suspended four games, reduced to two in line with Goodell's good behavior policy.


Shouldnt he have been crucified? :tsk:

[GEM]

Rod being with him helps immensely but i think he still gets a couple of games. For the sake of the team i hope not but guys like Pac Man and Henry would be outraged if he doesnt at least get something.

I'm wondering if the Cowboys are gonna pick up Henry. They've made a huge run towards becoming the thugs from the south.

[BeefStew25]

Shouldnt he have been crucified?

No, because he is white.

[WARHORSE]

The Somoan's were sporting long hair out of thier helmets long before dreadlocks out of the helmet became stylish.
It has NOTHING to do with dreadlocks or race.

The owners have a RIGHT to set a dress and conduct code if feel it is neccesary.

I don't know what the % of black players are in the NFL but I would guess it's at least 80%.
So........... if the same amount of black players get into trouble as white players it would be 8 black to 2 white. If you use those &'s, it turns out about right as to the players Goodell needs to come down on.

I hate when people try to turn this into a racial thing. Why would they, the % of black players dominate the league.

As far as Marshall goes, I hope they suspend his ass for at least two games. He needs to grow up and learn right from wrong, it's not that hard.

Now hold on there about the Somoans Turftoady. First of all, its SAMOANS. Second of all, dont throw us in the fire just because Wookie has gone conspiracy theorist on everyone.:tsk:


If we arent going to turn this into a racist thing, then dont bring up da Sons of Samoa.:salute:


Better to keep it between the palagi and the meuli.:coffee:



:D

[WARHORSE]

No, because he is white.



If he were black and done that, he would have been crucified.:rolleyes:

[MHCBill]

I'm White, how could I be racist to fellow White people?You can be racist no matter what color you are and what color you're railing against.

[Retired_Member_001]

You can be racist no matter what color you are and what color you're railing against.

It wouldn't make much sense though, would it?

[Fan in Exile]

It wouldn't make much sense though, would it?

You may not have noticed this, but racism doesn't ever make sense.

[atwater27]

All I'll say is this, if Tom Brady and Randy Moss are both convicted for illegal possesion of a weapon, who do you think would get the longer ban? Just think about that.

The guy with the drug history and the bad attitude. Cut out the race baiting crap.

[atwater27]

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time.

Edited for accuracy and scale...

[atwater27]

There's not been an example yet. I'm saying that if a black and white player were caught on the same charges, the league would go harder on the black player.

Yeah, if an Ewok and a Wookie both got caught smoking banja weed, we all know who'd go to Jabba's cell block.:rolleyes:

[SR]

It wouldn't make much sense though, would it?

Sure it does. Black people do it all the time. If you're black, but respectable like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, etc, you're an "Uncle Tom" or a sell out to black culture. White people who want to be black are often called "wiggers" by other people. Inter-race racism is around.

[Lonestar]

I'm not talking about that. I just believe the NFL will target black athletes. There's nothing wrong with me believing that. Punish the women beaters, the drunken drivers and so forth. Don't go looking for ways to target them though.

David Stern is not my boy, I'd like to lock him in a cage with Roger Goodell so they can discuss how to destroy their respective leagues.

If the black athletes have not figured it out by now they are no longer in the ghetto and have not paid attention to the ROOKIE camps the NFL have them attend then they will be indeed singled out to be post kids for being thugs..

This is not coming out of left field they have been warned by their college coaches by the scouts by the individual teams, by their agents and finally the rookie symposiums I have zero sympathy for what ever they get in the form of punishment..

this is the standard for them to adhere to

According to the league's strengthened personal conduct policy, which Goodell wrote and announced last year: "It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard. . . . Persons who fail to live up to this standard are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."


Real simple fact of life in the NFL they want their employees to act like the standard in society.. Brown black pink or purple. If you can't do this at your job why should they be able to..

The Commish could care less who it is, they all have to follow the SAME rules..

[Retired_Member_001]

Sure it does. Black people do it all the time. If you're black, but respectable like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, etc, you're an "Uncle Tom" or a sell out to black culture. White people who want to be black are often called "wiggers" by other people. Inter-race racism is around.

I'm not arguing about who is the more racist race. All I'm saying is the NFL targets black athletes.

I think people here are blowing my comments out of proportion.

[atwater27]

Sure it does. Black people do it all the time. If you're black, but respectable like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, etc, you're an "Uncle Tom" or a sell out to black culture. White people who want to be black are often called "wiggers" by other people. Inter-race racism is around.

Or if you are a respectable black man like Bill Cosby or Barack Obama trying to talk some sense about real problems facing young black men like them, you get "real" black men like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson talkin bout ripping your nuts off for "talking down" to black men.

[turftoad]

Now hold on there about the Somoans Turftoady. First of all, its SAMOANS. Second of all, dont throw us in the fire just because Wookie has gone conspiracy theorist on everyone.:tsk:


If we arent going to turn this into a racist thing, then dont bring up da Sons of Samoa.:salute:


Better to keep it between the palagi and the meuli.:coffee:



:D

Just an example of how it's just not about dreadlocks and blacks.

Didn't mean to offend any race in any way.

[SR]

I'm not arguing about who is the more racist race. All I'm saying is the NFL targets black athletes.

I think people here are blowing my comments out of proportion.

The NFL does not target black athletes! Black athletes are the ones that do more stupid shit, therefore they get in to more trouble. That's it. Quit making ridiculous comments and no one will blow them out of proportion. If Tom Brady and Randy Moss both had a completely clean slate and they both got in trouble for the same exact shit, rest assured they would both get the same punishment.

And for the record, the Commish's wife, Jane Skinner from FNC, is smoking hot. :eek:

[Lonestar]

Yes I do remember.

You still haven't answered my question though, do you HONESTLY believe that a black athlete would get the same ban as a white athlete?

if the circumstances where exactly the same, great player, no prior issues, I think Goodell would treat them the same..

Had Brady been the trouble maker and sore thumb he was for three different clubs, he was not like randy. I think it would be the same..

[atwater27]

I'm not arguing about who is the more racist race. All I'm saying is the NFL targets black athletes.

I think people here are blowing my comments out of proportion.

Have you ever considered what percentage the league is black to white and what percentage of black athletes get in to trouble with the law as compared to white athletes?
The league is 70 percent African American. So I wonder why you might thing he is "targeting" African Americans. Hmmmmm..... maybe because they make up the vast majority of the league, and for the sake of argument let's say white and black folks in the league have the exact same rate of DUI's, assaults, domestic abuse, drug abuse and other felonies..... That would still mean black players were responsible for 70 percent of the incedents!

[turftoad]

If the black athletes have not figured it out by now they are no longer in the ghetto and have not paid attention to the ROOKIE camps the NFL have them attend then they will be indeed singled out to be post kids for being thugs..

This is not coming out of left field they have been warned by their college coaches by the scouts by the individual teams, by their agents and finally the rookie symposiums I have zero sympathy for what ever they get in the form of punishment..

this is the standard for them to adhere to

According to the league's strengthened personal conduct policy, which Goodell wrote and announced last year: "It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard. . . . Persons who fail to live up to this standard are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."


Real simple fact of life in the NFL they want their employees to act like the standard in society.. Brown black pink or purple. If you can't do this at your job why should they be able to..

The Commish could care less who it is, they all have to follow the SAME rules..


JR, that's one of your best posts EVER!!

[Retired_Member_001]

The NFL does not target black athletes! Black athletes are the ones that do more stupid shit, therefore they get in to more trouble. That's it. Quit making ridiculous comments and no one will blow them out of proportion. If Tom Brady and Randy Moss both had a completely clean slate and they both got in trouble for the same exact shit, rest assured they would both get the same punishment.

And for the record, the Commish's wife, Jane Skinner from FNC, is smoking hot. :eek:

Unless anyone has noticed, I've actually stoped making comments, people here keeping sonding off though. Abit defensive I see.

[SR]

Maybe the NFL should adopt Charles Barkely's mantra: "I am not a role model"

[SR]

Unless anyone has noticed, I've actually stoped making comments, people here keeping sonding off though. Abit defensive I see.

I'm not defensive being defensive. You're a great posted 99% of the time, but that comment was one you should have thought more about before it was posted. We're all guilty of it though.

[Lonestar]

Maybe the NFL should adopt Charles Barkely's mantra: "I am not a role model"


then they need to stop selling NFL gear or allowing it to be sold they should make the players void all of their endorsement contracts and allow them to live on their contracts alone..

If these clowns are going to be allowed to hawk their products then they should be as a GROUP be role models for the kids (6-60) they try to sell to..IMHO

Can't have it one way with out the other..

[jrelway]

Yes I do remember.

You still haven't answered my question though, do you HONESTLY believe that a black athlete would get the same ban as a white athlete?

you are an ***EDIT** my friend. has nothing to do with black or white. nfl does not target black people. hell, the best players are black. ***EDIT***

[Italianmobstr7]

The funny thing about the Dreads being banned thing, is that it was brought up by Herman Edwards! A black coach! That right there shows that it's not just against black players, it's about ANY player who isn't being a mature adult, or ANY player who isn't making good decisions and not representing their company the right way.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Wait, I thought Goodell wasn't going to do anything to Marshall :rolleyes:

he has'nt. :confused:

[turftoad]

I am re opening this thread with agreement from all that it stay on topic.


:focus:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8097ca01

Video - Mike Shanahan talking about Marshall meeting with Goodell

[NightTrainLayne]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8097ca01

Video - Mike Shanahan talking about Marshall meeting with Goodell

Damn, corporate caught up with the NFL videos. It'll have to wait until I get home.

[Lonestar]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8097ca01

Video - Mike Shanahan talking about Marshall meeting with Goodell

two hour chit chat with the really BIG GUY.. Should be a wake up call..

Lets see if he hears it..

I'll bet two week vacation to start the year..

[broncosfanscott]

I am not pleased with Marshall getting called to see the commissioner, however this hopefully can be a good thing. If his teammates can make him realize what he is doing them maybe Goodell can. If he can't then Shanahan said it best, he won't be playing in the NFL.

[shank]

rod is amazing



Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall was summoned to New York last week to chat with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell concerning his string of off-the-field legal troubles.

Mike Shanahan hopes the conversation sank in.

"You're always concerned anytime the commissioner calls you in to have a meeting. It's not a good sign," the Denver coach said Thursday on the eve of training camp. "If it's not a wakeup call, then he won't be in the National Football League."

Marshall attended the meeting with attorney Harvey Steinberg and Broncos receiver Rod Smith, who officially announced his retirement Thursday.

Smith has been serving as a mentor for the 24-year-old receiver, who is coming off a 102-catch season.

"I care about him a lot," Smith said. "Once he gets to the point where he can get some inner peace in his life, you're going to see numbers that dwarf anybody else. He's going to blow numbers out of the water."

The league had no comment on Marshall's meeting with Goodell. The gathering was first reported in Thursday's edition of The Denver Post.

Marshall has been arrested three times in the past year. He's due in court in September for a trial on a drunken driving arrest from October 2007.

The Broncos expect to hear back from the league about a possible suspension as soon as next week.

"I pray he doesn't," Smith said. "I honestly believe he has a great direction in his life. We talked about setting some rules. We have some rules in place ... He's a great person. You'll never find a guy with a bigger heart or a bigger smile."

Now, Smith is urging Marshall to make some changes.

"He's going to learn, he's going to grow," Smith said. "He's going to get better. Everybody goes through tough times. I had the same thing happen to me. I had times where you think the world's going to come to an end. You know what happens? You wake up the next day and you've got another chance. I want to be there to help him when he gets a second chance."

Shanahan appreciates the fact Smith has taken Marshall under his wing. He couldn't have given Smith a more important assignment as he heads off into retirement.

"He knows the potential Brandon has and what type of guy he is," Shanahan said. "If you ever wanted a guy to be a tutor for a player, it's Rod Smith."

Shanahan said that Marshall's right arm is mending nicely after cutting an artery, vein, nerve, two tendons and three muscles in an accident at a resort in Orlando, Fla., in March.

"He's ready to go," Shanahan said. "He's 100 percent."

Marshall said during the Broncos' camp in June that while he still had some nerve damage, his goal was to catch 100 passes.

Smith certainly wouldn't rule it out for his protege.

"He's an amazing player," he said.

Between Smith's mentoring and Goodell's chat, Shanahan is hopeful that Marshall is paying close attention.

"Even though Brandon has made some mistakes, he's a good kid," Shanahan said. "Hopefully, he can learn from those mistakes."

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/brandon.marshall.goodell.2.779559.html

[WARHORSE]

Just an example of how it's just not about dreadlocks and blacks.

Didn't mean to offend any race in any way.


Er..............it was a joke. :cool:


Even though what Wookie said wasnt.:rolleyes:

[WARHORSE]

I think they ought to force him to catch 20 passes against Jokeland on opening night for punishment.


That always helps give the league a good rep.:salute:

[SR]

The funny thing about the Dreads being banned thing, is that it was brought up by Herman Edwards! A black coach! That right there shows that it's not just against black players, it's about ANY player who isn't being a mature adult, or ANY player who isn't making good decisions and not representing their company the right way.

It's inter racial racism. ;)

[WARHORSE]

It's inter racial racism. ;)\

Nope. Its black on black crime.:coffee:


McNugget taught me that one.

[Spider]

He should have had a 8 game suspension ........

[Dreadnought]

then they need to stop selling NFL gear or allowing it to be sold they should make the players void all of their endorsement contracts and allow them to live on their contracts alone..

If these clowns are going to be allowed to hawk their products then they should be as a GROUP be role models for the kids (6-60) they try to sell to..IMHO

Can't have it one way with out the other..

The marketing of NFL gear etc. is another whole sore subject. Outfits like Nike seem to gravitate towards some of the worst guys in the league as reps - almost nothing this past Year has made me laugh as hard as Nike losing their shirts after they had landed Michael Vick to a marketing deal. Its not always a Black and White thing, either; note the attention Jeremy Shockey has always managed to garner despite his very mediocre career accomplishments. I also place some blame on ESPN and other sports media outlets, who focus on the nonsense from the likes of TO and Chad Johnson while virtually ignoring the career of Rod Smith. Guys like Smith aren't seemingly "edgy" enough or something.

[Traveler]

Guess this little tidbit won't help Brandon's cause with the Commish.



Brandon Marshall-WR- Broncos Jul. 28 - 8:49 am et

CompleteColorado.com reports that three individuals were granted restraining orders against Brandon Marshall for stalking.

Busy offseason. CompleteColorado.com also details six instances in which the police were dispatched to Marshall's home, dating back to February of last year. A police report was only filed once. Marshall met with Roger Goodell a couple of weeks ago, and is awaiting word on the length of a possible suspension.

Source: http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall3.html

[Tned]

Guess this little tidbit won't help Brandon's cause with the Commish.



Brandon Marshall-WR- Broncos Jul. 28 - 8:49 am et

CompleteColorado.com reports that three individuals were granted restraining orders against Brandon Marshall for stalking.

Busy offseason. CompleteColorado.com also details six instances in which the police were dispatched to Marshall's home, dating back to February of last year. A police report was only filed once. Marshall met with Roger Goodell a couple of weeks ago, and is awaiting word on the length of a possible suspension.

Source: http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall3.html


So, the conclusion seems to be that Marshall really is an idiot that is going to sabatage his own career, or his ex-girl friend really is a psycho and is going to follow through with the threat (according to Marshall) to ruin him.

If you buy into Marshall's story about the ex trying to ruin him (and I am not sure I do), then pretty much all but the DUI could potentially be explained by the ex setting him up.

On the other hand, the Commish is probably going to have heard reports about Marshall's involvement at the bar the night Darrent was shot (wasn't it Marshall that got into it with the guys in the bar?), pleading guilty to a DUI, multipe charges of domestic abuse, these visits by the police to Marshall's home, and possibly not buying Marshall's story on what happened to his arm.

Now, I still don't see how all of the above adds up to a 4-8 game suspension.

[turftoad]

EVEN MORE TROUBLE FOR MARSHALL?
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2008, 8:13 a.m.
As the signs point toward a suspension of Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall, there’s new evidence that could influence NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s decision on the matter.

According to CompleteColorado.com, three individuals sought, and received, “temporary protective orders” against Marshall for stalking. None of the three people were Rasheeda Watley, the woman with whom several of Marshall’s legal entanglements originated.

CompleteColorado.com also reports that Douglas County deputies have been dispatched to, or have taken 911 calls from, Marshall’s home six times since Marshall’s arrival in the Denver area.

In one of the incidents, from July 2007, a security guard had threatened to kill a member of the Denver Broncos, presumably other than Marshall.

None of these incidents are recent, and it’s unknown whether the team or the NFL were aware of them. Also, there’s no evidence of any specific wrongdoing by Marshall in connection with any of the incidents.

That said, this new information isn’t likely to make the league reconsider any decision to suspend Marshall.




It's starting to pile on. No wonder the Commish is looking at 8 games.

Marshall needs a window in his stomach so he can see when his head is up his ass.

[NightTrainLayne]

I've more or less been a defender of Marshall. Wanting to give him time and not jump to conclusions before making a rash decision.

He is quickly losing my support. It is becoming less and less a matter of a rash decision to figure out a strategy to part ways but possibly becoming a rational decision.

Marshall has gobs of talent, and if he can turn it around I want him on the team.

But having the police at your home once a quarter, and having a security guard threaten to kill a teammate is not the kind of guy we need on the team.

Marshall has used the last of his nine lives with me. He either gets it right from here on out, or I'll jump on the trade-him bandwagon.

[Dreadnought]

I've more or less been a defender of Marshall. Wanting to give him time and not jump to conclusions before making a rash decision.

He is quickly losing my support. It is becoming less and less a matter of a rash decision to figure out a strategy to part ways but possibly becoming a rational decision.

Marshall has gobs of talent, and if he can turn it around I want him on the team.

But having the police at your home once a quarter, and having a security guard threaten to kill a teammate is not the kind of guy we need on the team.

Marshall has used the last of his nine lives with me. He either gets it right from here on out, or I'll jump on the trade-him bandwagon.

I'm with you. My hunch is he's going down for eight games. We'll get to see how well this cast o' thousands WR Corps we've got can play then, eh?

[Mike]

I am just sick of hearing about it. Give him his suspension and let's move on. Hopefully he learns and grows...been saying that for a while now though.

Wonder if the Broncos have been talking to Arizona?

[NightTrainLayne]

Why in the Hell does an NFL wide-receiver have to stalk women? WTF!??!!

[Northman]

Well, im done defending him. You can only hope so much that a player learns from his mistakes after that, its all on him and no one else.

[Lonestar]

My only concern is if this moron gets 4-8 games what is going to happen to him?

We all know that the idle mind is the devils workshop..

This amount of time off could tip the scales from productive to devastating..

The last thing this kid needs is time away from his teammates to think about it It seems the moron does not do well in the off season when not totally worn out from practicing and playing..

Maybe mikey can hire a babysitter for him and keep him active in the local workout facility.. Maybe it is time if they do suspend him to give so much community service, he has no options to get into trouble..

YES, for edification him and his cousin were the instigators of the gangsta issue at that night club, just before darrent got killed.. I'm certain I read that they were the ones spraying champagne that set the incident up.

[NightTrainLayne]

My only concern is if this moron gets 4-8 games what is going to happen to him?

We all know that the idle mind is the devils workshop..

This amount of time off could tip the scales from productive to devastating..

The last thing this kid needs is time away from his teammates to think about it It seems the moron does not do well in the off season when not totally worn out from practicing and playing..

Maybe mikey can hire a babysitter for him and keep him active in the local workout facility.. Maybe it is time if they do suspend him to give so much community service, he has no options to get into trouble..

YES, for edification him and his cousin were the instigators of the gangsta issue at that night club, just before darrent got killed.. I'm certain I read that they were the ones spraying champagne that set the incident up.

I agree. If it's an eight-game suspension, BM will be at high risk to "rebel" against the display of authority and get into more trouble.

I still think 8 games is too much for what he's done, and would understand him feeling that 8 games is unfair. The problem is, with people with this type of personality (my own brother being an example) is that when they feel like they're being mistreated over a transgression, they then go out of their way to commit a transgression worthy of the punishment.

In other words, if BM feels this wasn't even worth being suspended over, and he gets 8 games, I would be prepared for him to commit an "eight-game" violation just to show who's boss.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope he learns his lesson and cleans up his act, but I am worried about the effect of a suspension. And I have lost any hope that there won't be some suspension. The only question is the duration.

[Dreadnought]

My only concern is if this moron gets 4-8 games what is going to happen to him?

We all know that the idle mind is the devils workshop..

This amount of time off could tip the scales from productive to devastating..

The last thing this kid needs is time away from his teammates to think about it It seems the moron does not do well in the off season when not totally worn out from practicing and playing..

Maybe mikey can hire a babysitter for him and keep him active in the local workout facility.. Maybe it is time if they do suspend him to give so much community service, he has no options to get into trouble..

YES, for edification him and his cousin were the instigators of the gangsta issue at that night club, just before darrent got killed.. I'm certain I read that they were the ones spraying champagne that set the incident up.

It would be money well spent if Bowlen paid some guy $100K just to keep this idiot from further trouble

[Lonestar]

***EXCLUSIVE*** == MUST CREDIT COMPLETECOLORADO.com

PUBLISHED JULY 28th, 2008
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For roughly 2 years since being drafted by the Denver Broncos, Brandon Marshall has been living in a quiet Highlands Ranch suburb in unincorporated Douglas County. CompleteColorado.com is first to report that during that time, Douglas County Deputies have been dispatched to, or have taken 911 calls for Marshall's home no less than 6 times.

In all but one of those instances, no police report was filed.

Additionally, CompleteColorado.com is first to report that Marshall also had his driver's license suspended in August of 2007 in Orange County, Florida.
http://completecolorado.com/Details.aspx.htm
The DL suspension came after a traffic ticket for excessive speed. The Broncos wide receiver has multiple traffic offenses in Florida. It is unknown at this time if the driver's license suspension was carried out, and if so, for what length of time. However, it still places a new context around the fact that Marshall has accumulated 28 points of driving charges
http://completecolorado.com/Details.aspx.htm
here in Colorado all within 12 months of suffering a driver's license suspension in Florida.

CompleteColorado is also first to report that three individuals sought, and were granted, a temporary protective order against Marshall for stalking. None of those individuals were Marshall's ex-girlfriend, Rasheeda Watley.

When the Douglas County Sheriff's Office was presented with the fact that Deputies were dispatched 6 times, and no report was filed in 5 of those instances, DCSO spokeswoman Cocha Heyden said, "It essentially comes down to that no matter what the call for service, if our deputies arrive and can find no evidence of a crime then it is unlikely that a report would be written..."


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Incident #1, February 14th, 2007 Douglas county deputies went to Marshall's home to service a warrant. It is unknown at this time what or whom the warrant was for.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DOCUMENT.
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan5R.jpg


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Incident #2, July 3rd, 2007.

Deputies were dispatched to Marshall's home in response to a harassment call. Dispatch notes indicate that a security guard "threatened to kill" a Denver Bronco, whose name was redacted in the dispatch notes obtained by CompleteColorado. But because Marshall's name is NOT redacted in the report, it follows that the individual that was threatened was not Marshall. However, the dispatch notes indicate that someone at the scene (perhaps even Marshall) wanted to keep either the unknown Bronco or Marshall out of any official report. Deputies were dispatched, but no complaint was taken or filed.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DOCUMENT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan1R.jpg

The Douglas County Records Office informed CompleteColorado.com that the 911 tapes of this incident are unavailable because tapes are only archived for one full year.


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Incident #3, November 19th, 2007.

Deputies were dispatched to Marshall's home to serve an arrest warrant on an individual named Carl Carrell. CompleteColorado.com has learned that Carrell is a close friend not only of just Brandon Marshall, but also of the wider Marshall family. Court documents indicate that Carrell is also a business partner of Marhsall's brother, Fredrick.

Carrell was wanted for an incident on November 12th, 2007 in which police allege that he beat his ex-girlfriend in the parking lot of a gas station in Lone Tree. The police report also alleges that Carrell dragged his ex-girlfriend along the parking lot pavement to the point that the woman's elbows became bloodied. The report goes on to say that cops could not find Carrell after he fled the scene. He was charged with 2nd degree kidnapping, 3rd degree assault, careless driving, and domestic violence.

One week after the alleged incident, Douglas County Deputies were able to arrest Carrell at Marshall's residence sometime between 6 and 7 in the evening. Court records indicate that Carrell has since pleaded not guilty to the array of charges, and is scheduled for trial in early September.

Mr. Carrell has also recently (August, 07) pleaded guilty to refusing the order of an officer, and had an assault case against him dismissed in 2006.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DISPATCH NOTES TO MARSHALL'S HOUSE
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan7R.jpg

CLICK HERE FOR PAGE 1 OF CARRELL'S ARREST AFFADAVIT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/Carrell1.jpg

CLICK HERE FOR PAGE 2 OF CARRELL'S ARREST AFFADAVIT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/Carrell2.jpg



Incident #4, December 25th, 2007. The Douglas County dispatch office received a call from a woman who “sounded scared.” The woman asked if it was possible to file an anonymous report of domestic violence. Through many long gaps of silence, the woman then indicated to the dispatcher that the violence was not happening at her location (Brandon Marshall's home), but was instead across the street. The caller then hung-up.

After the dispatcher sent a deputy en route to Marshall's home, the dispatcher called the number back. This time, the woman sounded much less tense, and advised dispatch that it appeared as though the incident had come to an end, with the male party driving off from the scene.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 911 CALL

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE DISPATCH NOTES
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan2R.jpg

CompleteColorado.com asked the Douglas County Records Office to provide a detailed list of all dispatches and 911 calls from all other homes along the same block on which Mr. Marshall lives for the past 18 months. Only three records were found, none of them were domestic violence calls.


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Incident #5, May 10th, 2008.

Douglas County Dispatch took a 911 call from a man indicating that he had just seen Brandon Marshall's cousin slam a female onto the hood of a white car. “I just watched it with my own eyes,” the caller told the dispatcher.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE DISPATCH NOTES
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan3R.jpg

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 911 CALL - ADVISORY: ADULT LANGUAGE

The caller's voice has been modified, and portions of the call presented have been redacted to protect the identity of the caller. However, adult language has not been censored from the tape. The caller indicated that a "commotion" had been coming from Marshall's home for some time preceding the alleged violence on the car.

The caller identified Marshall's cousin by name as being Blair Clark.

Deputies were sent to the scene, but no formal report or complaint was ever filed.

Blair Clark was also arrested by Denver Police on August 15th, 2007 for petty theft, threatening to injure a person, and driving without a license. The police report alleges that after Clark skipped out on a $300 restaurant tab, he blocked traffic with his vehicle. When approached by officers, the report alleges that Clark shouted he would “kill and beat the f*** out of the cops.” A CBI background check indicates no other major arrests in Clark's history in Colorado.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE AUGUST, 2007, POLICE REPORT ON BLAIR CLARK
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BClark2.jpg


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Incident #6, June 28th, 2008.

At roughly 2:45 in the A.M., a call was placed to dispatch saying Marshall needed to turn his stereo down. The caller told the dispatcher that he/she would cut off the power if it didn't stop. A deputy was dispatched, and the scene was “cleared” by 3:00 A.M., with no report taken.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DISPATCH NOTES

http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan7R.jpg
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In addition to making these incidents public, CompleteColorado.com is first to publish the 911 calls of a domestic incident on March 04th-05th, between Marshall and his (then) girlfriend, Rasheeda Watley.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 9-1-1 CALLS FROM ATLANTA P.D.

Later on March 05th, three individuals filed for and were granted a temporary protective order against Marshall for stalking. The TPO was voluntarily rescinded two weeks later on March 19th.

CLICK HERE TO SEE PAGE 1 OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/TPO1R.jpg

CLICK HERE TO SEE PAGE 3 OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/TPO3R.jpg

The first person listed on the TPO was Kristeena Spivey. Spivey is a friend of Rasheeda Watley's, and was involved in an incident with Marshall in June of 2007. In that incident, Marshall is accused of blocking in Spivey's car, then throwing a brick or rock at the window close to Rasheeda Watley, who was a passenger in Spivey's car. CompleteColorado.com is in the process of trying to obtain the 911 tapes from this particular incident.
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INquiring minds want to know..

[Lonestar]

It would be money well spent if Bowlen paid some guy $100K just to keep this idiot from further trouble

Rod being a prime example, best job he could have for the next year.. Personal consultant and trainer for MORON INC.

Then bring him on as a coach..

[Northman]

My only concern is if this moron gets 4-8 games what is going to happen to him?

We all know that the idle mind is the devils workshop..

This amount of time off could tip the scales from productive to devastating..

The last thing this kid needs is time away from his teammates to think about it It seems the moron does not do well in the off season when not totally worn out from practicing and playing..

Maybe mikey can hire a babysitter for him and keep him active in the local workout facility.. Maybe it is time if they do suspend him to give so much community service, he has no options to get into trouble..

YES, for edification him and his cousin were the instigators of the gangsta issue at that night club, just before darrent got killed.. I'm certain I read that they were the ones spraying champagne that set the incident up.

The only thing that i can say is positive right now is that he doesnt have a big contract with us.

[turftoad]

***EXCLUSIVE*** == MUST CREDIT COMPLETECOLORADO.com

PUBLISHED JULY 28th, 2008
------------------------------------------------------------------

For roughly 2 years since being drafted by the Denver Broncos, Brandon Marshall has been living in a quiet Highlands Ranch suburb in unincorporated Douglas County. CompleteColorado.com is first to report that during that time, Douglas County Deputies have been dispatched to, or have taken 911 calls for Marshall's home no less than 6 times.

In all but one of those instances, no police report was filed.

Additionally, CompleteColorado.com is first to report that Marshall also had his driver's license suspended in August of 2007 in Orange County, Florida.
http://completecolorado.com/Details.aspx.htm
The DL suspension came after a traffic ticket for excessive speed. The Broncos wide receiver has multiple traffic offenses in Florida. It is unknown at this time if the driver's license suspension was carried out, and if so, for what length of time. However, it still places a new context around the fact that Marshall has accumulated 28 points of driving charges
http://completecolorado.com/Details.aspx.htm
here in Colorado all within 12 months of suffering a driver's license suspension in Florida.

CompleteColorado is also first to report that three individuals sought, and were granted, a temporary protective order against Marshall for stalking. None of those individuals were Marshall's ex-girlfriend, Rasheeda Watley.

When the Douglas County Sheriff's Office was presented with the fact that Deputies were dispatched 6 times, and no report was filed in 5 of those instances, DCSO spokeswoman Cocha Heyden said, "It essentially comes down to that no matter what the call for service, if our deputies arrive and can find no evidence of a crime then it is unlikely that a report would be written..."


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Incident #1, February 14th, 2007 Douglas county deputies went to Marshall's home to service a warrant. It is unknown at this time what or whom the warrant was for.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DOCUMENT.
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan5R.jpg


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Incident #2, July 3rd, 2007.

Deputies were dispatched to Marshall's home in response to a harassment call. Dispatch notes indicate that a security guard "threatened to kill" a Denver Bronco, whose name was redacted in the dispatch notes obtained by CompleteColorado. But because Marshall's name is NOT redacted in the report, it follows that the individual that was threatened was not Marshall. However, the dispatch notes indicate that someone at the scene (perhaps even Marshall) wanted to keep either the unknown Bronco or Marshall out of any official report. Deputies were dispatched, but no complaint was taken or filed.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DOCUMENT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan1R.jpg

The Douglas County Records Office informed CompleteColorado.com that the 911 tapes of this incident are unavailable because tapes are only archived for one full year.


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Incident #3, November 19th, 2007.

Deputies were dispatched to Marshall's home to serve an arrest warrant on an individual named Carl Carrell. CompleteColorado.com has learned that Carrell is a close friend not only of just Brandon Marshall, but also of the wider Marshall family. Court documents indicate that Carrell is also a business partner of Marhsall's brother, Fredrick.

Carrell was wanted for an incident on November 12th, 2007 in which police allege that he beat his ex-girlfriend in the parking lot of a gas station in Lone Tree. The police report also alleges that Carrell dragged his ex-girlfriend along the parking lot pavement to the point that the woman's elbows became bloodied. The report goes on to say that cops could not find Carrell after he fled the scene. He was charged with 2nd degree kidnapping, 3rd degree assault, careless driving, and domestic violence.

One week after the alleged incident, Douglas County Deputies were able to arrest Carrell at Marshall's residence sometime between 6 and 7 in the evening. Court records indicate that Carrell has since pleaded not guilty to the array of charges, and is scheduled for trial in early September.

Mr. Carrell has also recently (August, 07) pleaded guilty to refusing the order of an officer, and had an assault case against him dismissed in 2006.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DISPATCH NOTES TO MARSHALL'S HOUSE
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan7R.jpg

CLICK HERE FOR PAGE 1 OF CARRELL'S ARREST AFFADAVIT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/Carrell1.jpg

CLICK HERE FOR PAGE 2 OF CARRELL'S ARREST AFFADAVIT
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/Carrell2.jpg



Incident #4, December 25th, 2007. The Douglas County dispatch office received a call from a woman who “sounded scared.” The woman asked if it was possible to file an anonymous report of domestic violence. Through many long gaps of silence, the woman then indicated to the dispatcher that the violence was not happening at her location (Brandon Marshall's home), but was instead across the street. The caller then hung-up.

After the dispatcher sent a deputy en route to Marshall's home, the dispatcher called the number back. This time, the woman sounded much less tense, and advised dispatch that it appeared as though the incident had come to an end, with the male party driving off from the scene.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 911 CALL

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE DISPATCH NOTES
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan2R.jpg

CompleteColorado.com asked the Douglas County Records Office to provide a detailed list of all dispatches and 911 calls from all other homes along the same block on which Mr. Marshall lives for the past 18 months. Only three records were found, none of them were domestic violence calls.


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Incident #5, May 10th, 2008.

Douglas County Dispatch took a 911 call from a man indicating that he had just seen Brandon Marshall's cousin slam a female onto the hood of a white car. “I just watched it with my own eyes,” the caller told the dispatcher.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE DISPATCH NOTES
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan3R.jpg

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 911 CALL - ADVISORY: ADULT LANGUAGE

The caller's voice has been modified, and portions of the call presented have been redacted to protect the identity of the caller. However, adult language has not been censored from the tape. The caller indicated that a "commotion" had been coming from Marshall's home for some time preceding the alleged violence on the car.

The caller identified Marshall's cousin by name as being Blair Clark.

Deputies were sent to the scene, but no formal report or complaint was ever filed.

Blair Clark was also arrested by Denver Police on August 15th, 2007 for petty theft, threatening to injure a person, and driving without a license. The police report alleges that after Clark skipped out on a $300 restaurant tab, he blocked traffic with his vehicle. When approached by officers, the report alleges that Clark shouted he would “kill and beat the f*** out of the cops.” A CBI background check indicates no other major arrests in Clark's history in Colorado.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE AUGUST, 2007, POLICE REPORT ON BLAIR CLARK
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BClark2.jpg


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Incident #6, June 28th, 2008.

At roughly 2:45 in the A.M., a call was placed to dispatch saying Marshall needed to turn his stereo down. The caller told the dispatcher that he/she would cut off the power if it didn't stop. A deputy was dispatched, and the scene was “cleared” by 3:00 A.M., with no report taken.

CLICK HERE TO SEE DISPATCH NOTES

http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/BMscan7R.jpg
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In addition to making these incidents public, CompleteColorado.com is first to publish the 911 calls of a domestic incident on March 04th-05th, between Marshall and his (then) girlfriend, Rasheeda Watley.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE 9-1-1 CALLS FROM ATLANTA P.D.

Later on March 05th, three individuals filed for and were granted a temporary protective order against Marshall for stalking. The TPO was voluntarily rescinded two weeks later on March 19th.

CLICK HERE TO SEE PAGE 1 OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/TPO1R.jpg

CLICK HERE TO SEE PAGE 3 OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER
http://www.completecolorado.com/Marshall/TPO3R.jpg

The first person listed on the TPO was Kristeena Spivey. Spivey is a friend of Rasheeda Watley's, and was involved in an incident with Marshall in June of 2007. In that incident, Marshall is accused of blocking in Spivey's car, then throwing a brick or rock at the window close to Rasheeda Watley, who was a passenger in Spivey's car. CompleteColorado.com is in the process of trying to obtain the 911 tapes from this particular incident.
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INquiring minds want to know..

Sounds like he is not only a FREAK on the field but OFF of it as well. :tsk:

[Davii]

As long as Rod stands by him, i'll offer tacit support.

If Rod feels he can be "saved" and thinks he's the man to do it, more power to him.

The amount of respect I have for Rod Smith, and the words Rod had to say about Brandon recently, including appearing with him at the Commish's office, is the ONLY reason I would still stand behind Brandon at this point.

Regardless of whether he is a Bronco or not, or on the field or not, Brandon needs to get this all figured out and become a productive member of society.

This young man has too much talent, and too strong of a supporting cast, to piss it all away.

However, if he pisses on the help Rod Smith is giving him, cut him, and cut him quick.

[Lonestar]

As long as Rod stands by him, i'll offer tacit support.

If Rod feels he can be "saved" and thinks he's the man to do it, more power to him.

The amount of respect I have for Rod Smith, and the words Rod had to say about Brandon recently, including appearing with him at the Commish's office, is the ONLY reason I would still stand behind Brandon at this point.

Regardless of whether he is a Bronco or not, or on the field or not, Brandon needs to get this all figured out and become a productive member of society.

This young man has too much talent, and too strong of a supporting cast, to piss it all away.

However, if he pisses on the help Rod Smith is giving him, cut him, and cut him quick.


I wonder if Rod or for that matter if anyone knows all the facts here.. the more that comes to light the more seems to be below the surface..

[WARHORSE]

Sounds to me like his family AND his friends are not the right kind of people to be hangin out with.

That being said, media tends to dramatize information like this in order to make a story.

Imo, Im pretty sure Goodell already knows all of this information.

There is a proverb which should be considered here: The first to present his case always seems right.

[Lonestar]

Sounds to me like his family AND his friends are not the right kind of people to be hangin out with.

That being said, media tends to dramatize information like this in order to make a story.

Imo, Im pretty sure Goodell already knows all of this information.

There is a proverb which should be considered here: The first to present his case always seems right.


It sounds pretty matter of fact to me in the article posted above

I suspect that Goodell he may not know it all. But he wll before he makes a decision.. Now that some good investigative reporting have been done..

[broncobryce]

I don't think he'll be suspended. If he is, it will only be for 2 games. BUT, one more screwup and he will get the 8 games or worse.

[NightTrainLayne]

It sounds pretty matter of fact to me in the article posted above

I suspect that Goodell he may not know it all. But he wll before he makes a decision.. Now that some good investigative reporting have been done..

I think War has a point.

When you actually see why the police were called to his residence, for the most part they were there for somebody else.

Now, that means that Brandon shouldn't have those folks at his house, but at least he wasn't the one with a warrant being served, or throwing someone onto the hood of a car.

Still doesn't look good, but it's maybe not as bad as the original "report" would lead you to believe.

[Lonestar]

I think War has a point.

When you actually see why the police were called to his residence, for the most part they were there for somebody else.

Now, that means that Brandon shouldn't have those folks at his house, but at least he wasn't the one with a warrant being served, or throwing someone onto the hood of a car.

Still doesn't look good, but it's maybe not as bad as the original "report" would lead you to believe.


I do not disagree one moment about who he is associating with..

Anytime police arrive it is not a good thing regardless of whom they came to visit..

HE needs to have a baby sitter till he grows up for his OWN good and the welfare of Bronco fans throughout the world..

[BeefStew25]

What is the rule on keeping him caged during non-work hours?

[Dreadnought]

What is the rule on keeping him caged during non-work hours?

I don't know Colorado Labor Law - it might count as unlawful imprisonment. Maybe we could ask him about the specifics of that offense? :D

[BeefStew25]

I don't know Colorado Labor Law - it might count as unlawful imprisonment. Maybe we could ask him about the specifics of that offense? :D

Oh yeah...maybe have Colorado pass a law stating any law you broke must also now happen to you. So we imprison him (maybe lock him in a cab instead of a cage).

Another idea: The goalpost can double as a post to chain him to. Maybe throw raw meat at him. Shame works.

[Lonestar]

What is the rule on keeping him caged during non-work hours?


if he keeps up this crap he just might be on a work release program where he gets to practice and play with the team. But sleep in a halfway house when not at work and If he does not have a drivers license he may taking the buss to and from..

[turftoad]

I think War has a point.

When you actually see why the police were called to his residence, for the most part they were there for somebody else.

Now, that means that Brandon shouldn't have those folks at his house, but at least he wasn't the one with a warrant being served, or throwing someone onto the hood of a car.

Still doesn't look good, but it's maybe not as bad as the original "report" would lead you to believe.

It wasn't anyone elses fault that he gets temporary protective orders placed on him.
Sounds to me like he has temper and stalking problems.

[LRtagger]

so much for the League being racist

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3508156


PITTSFORD, N.Y. -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell won't discipline Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch for a hit-and-run accident that left a woman injured.

Lynch lost his license last month after he pleaded guilty to a traffic violation. He was driving his 2008 Porsche Cayenne SUV about 3:30 a.m. on May 31 when he hit a 27-year-old Ontario woman and kept going.

He could have faced criminal charges but reached a plea deal with prosecutors. The woman suffered a bruised hip and a cut to her thigh that required seven stitches.

Speaking at Bills training camp, Goodell said since Lynch pleaded guilty to traffic violation, there was no violation of the league's personal conduct policy.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press



Just because he plead guilty to a lesser crime that was not a league violation he did not get a fine or suspension?? I thought the league policy was whether you were found guilty or not, etc. Obviously he hit the woman and ran even though he was not convicted of such. :confused:

[Lonestar]

so much for the League being racist

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3508156



Just because he plead guilty to a lesser crime that was not a league violation he did not get a fine or suspension?? I thought the league policy was whether you were found guilty or not, etc. Obviously he hit the woman and ran even though he was not convicted of such. :confused:


sounds to me like lynch took responsibility after the fact and therefore was not an issue any longer..

[MOtorboat]

sounds to me like lynch took responsibility after the fact and therefore was not an issue any longer..

Yup, he sure did...except that whole "leaving the scene of an accident" thing.

But...then again, unlike a certain someone, he hasn't been plagued by other problems either.

[LRtagger]

My point being he's black and the league let him off...in reference to the first couple pages of the thread where it was said Marshall was getting screwed because he's black.

[Lonestar]

My point being he's black and the league let him off...in reference to the first couple pages of the thread where it was said Marshall was getting screwed because he's black.

thanks for clarifying that as 98% of us let that one go a long time a go..
Now you post makes perfect sense..

[BeefStew25]

So if Matt Jones gets 4 games, can I say Goodell hates white people?

[MOtorboat]

So if Matt Jones gets 4 games, can I say Goodell hates white people?

I think its painfully obvious. I mean look at the ratio of white people to black people in the league vs. society...

/sarcasm

[Dreadnought]

So if Matt Jones gets 4 games, can I say Goodell hates white people?

If Matt Jones plays a down for anybody this season I'll be shocked. A lazy underacheiving mediocrity with drug and conduct issues? Whats not to like? I think what we'll start to see in the future is that guys without B Marshall's talent will be thrown overboard after the first go-round and disappear off the Map. Oh well, Matt Jones can always come play for the Albany Conquest in Arena League. :D

[Dreadnought]

I think its painfully obvious. I mean look at the ratio of white people to black people in the league vs. society...

/sarcasm

Mo, are you suggesting some reverse Rooney Rule, where every team has to try out X number of white guys as Cornerbacks? There are none on anyones roster after all. I suspect it would do about as much good for white cornerbacks as it has for black coaches.

[WARHORSE]

It sounds pretty matter of fact to me in the article posted above

I suspect that Goodell he may not know it all. But he wll before he makes a decision.. Now that some good investigative reporting have been done..


Yeah, I think maybe perceptions can differ according to your position on a particular subject.

Conceivable?

[WARHORSE]

I think War has a point.

When you actually see why the police were called to his residence, for the most part they were there for somebody else.

Now, that means that Brandon shouldn't have those folks at his house, but at least he wasn't the one with a warrant being served, or throwing someone onto the hood of a car.

Still doesn't look good, but it's maybe not as bad as the original "report" would lead you to believe.


Ding-ding!

We have a winner.

[MOtorboat]

Mo, are you suggesting some reverse Rooney Rule, where every team has to try out X number of white guys as Cornerbacks? There are none on anyones roster after all. I suspect it would do about as much good for white cornerbacks as it has for black coaches.

Oh, did Jason Sehorn retire?

[WARHORSE]

I do not disagree one moment about who he is associating with..

Anytime police arrive it is not a good thing regardless of whom they came to visit..

HE needs to have a baby sitter till he grows up for his OWN good and the welfare of Bronco fans throughout the world..


Ever consider the fact that he wasnt raised like you?:rolleyes:

Its kinda hard to tell a kid to understand that his family is a bad influence on him. Undoubtedly he has gone through tough times with many of them, and that loyalty is going to go very far when it comes to allowing people to influence you. Its not his fault he has been taught, and been given by example a very specific set of social skills to move in and about the world in. And that too, is probably an entirely different world in which he learned in than the one hes walking in now.

He needs Rod Smiths. People that can influence him as well as teach him how to deal with his family without telling him he needs to scratch those relationships....family or not.

That takes time unfortunately, and time is not on his side.

Bummer for him.

Bummer for us.

But I hope, and believe he can do it, not only helping himself, but his family as well.

[WARHORSE]

sounds to me like lynch took responsibility after the fact and therefore was not an issue any longer..


Responsibility after the fact.:D


Sorry, just doesnt sound right.

[Northman]

Responsibility after the fact.:D


Sorry, just doesnt sound right.

I dont think he really means to make it sound like its ok, but most people who get into trouble play the blame game on everyone else. It may not have been the right move right then and there but at least when all was said and done he did take responsibility.

[WARHORSE]

So if Matt Jones gets 4 games, can I say Goodell hates white people?


No, that wouldnt be fair. Matt Jones is a nice white kid from the suburbs of Utopia.

Hes not a criminal. Hes a good kid that made a mistake.:coffee:

[BeefStew25]

Responsibility after the fact.:D


Sorry, just doesnt sound right.

Yeah, he fled the scene and when the police advised him they had him dead to rights, he caved.

What character.

:rolleyes:

[BeefStew25]

No, that wouldnt be fair. Matt Jones is a nice white kid from the suburbs of Utopia.

Hes not a criminal. Hes a good kid that made a mistake.:coffee:

Well, this does give him a chance to become football's Josh Hamilton. Think of the sponsorship possibilities.

Wouldn't a razor blade company sign him up?

[NightTrainLayne]

Yeah, he fled the scene and when the police advised him they had him dead to rights, he caved.

What character.

:rolleyes:

Call me crazy, but I think that a hit-&-run, where you actually hit someone and flee the scene is much worse than drunk driving.

They're both bad, but when you screw up and hurt somebody else, you've got to step up and take responsibility. . ..immediately.

[WARHORSE]

I dont think he really means to make it sound like its ok, but most people who get into trouble play the blame game on everyone else. It may not have been the right move right then and there but at least when all was said and done he did take responsibility.


Ok, if you want to defend him, go ahead.


But sure seems to me he wanted to take responsibility after the fact also.


The fact that someone put his face behind the wheel of the car that hit that lady.


Think that swayed him at all towards 'taking responsibility'?


Mama: 'John Lynch!!!"

Lynch: 'Yes mama?"

Mama: 'Did you eat those cookies I told you not to eat???"

Lynch: 'OF COURSE NOT MAMA!!! I WOULD NEVER DO THAT!!!"

Mama: 'Then why is your hand in the cookie jar boy??"

Lynch: (pause)

Mama: 'Sorry, but I DIDNT HEAR WHAT YOU SAID"

Lynch: 'Mama, theres something I need to tell you........."

Mama: 'Yes..............?"

Lynch: (sobbing) 'I DID IT MAMA!!! IM SORRY!! I ATE THE COOKIES YOU TOLD ME NOT TO EAT!!!! IM SSSSSOOOO-O-O-OR-R-R-R-EEEEE!!!"

Mama: 'Its alright. Mama still loves you."


WHACK!

Yup. Responsibility....after.

[MOtorboat]

Call me crazy, but I think that a hit-&-run, where you actually hit someone and flee the scene is much worse than drunk driving.

They're both bad, but when you screw up and hurt somebody else, you've got to step up and take responsibility. . ..immediately.

Didn't they try to nab him for drunk driving too...

[WARHORSE]

Well, this does give him a chance to become football's Josh Hamilton. Think of the sponsorship possibilities.

Wouldn't a razor blade company sign him up?


Maybe.


Did you hear about the Pepsi employee that got fired?

Tested positive for Coke.

[BeefStew25]

The NFL wants to control it's athletes. Much more than in the NBA. I'll be straight up, the NFL doesn't like young Black athletes. They want young Black athletes to act like old White men. I agree with coming down hard on players who do bad things, but there are certain things the NFL are trying to impose which just aren't right. See the possible ban on Dreadlocks.

Paging Wookie. Paging Wookie. Would you like your crow grilled, fried, or blackened?

[Retired_Member_001]

Paging Wookie. Paging Wookie. Would you like your crow grilled, fried, or blackened?

Only if I can grill yours when the schizo that blamed Kobe finally confesses she was lying.

[BeefStew25]

Only if I can grill yours when the schizo that blamed Kobe finally confesses she was lying.

No, Kobe admitted that she did something against her will, and he apologized for it.

So, anyway, back on topic. Eat your bird. *EDIT*

[Retired_Member_001]

No, Kobe admitted that she did something against her will, and he apologized for it.

So, anyway, back on topic. Eat your bird

She did something against her well?

:laugh:

Kobe admitted he had sex with her, he said he thought it was a mutual agreement. Get your facts straight.

Before the mods lock this, :focus: .

[BeefStew25]

She did something against her well?

:laugh:

Kobe admitted he had sex with her, he said he thought it was a mutual agreement. Get your facts straight.

Before the mods lock this, :focus: .

Nice rep.

Anyway, if you didn't think you were going to get called onto the carpet when you called the NFL a racist league, you had another thing coming. White America hating black athletes. Well, since we are dealing in stereotypes, I bet your teeth are yellow and rotted.

Sucks to assume, doesn't it?

Look inward, young man. And from that, you will grow. Your cocoon will nuture and feed your brain stem, and thus, the youthful, ignoramous comments will drift away like boat into the current.

I will be positive about our emerging relationship. You thought Plummer sucks also. Lets focus on that as we heal our wounds together in harmony.

[Retired_Member_001]

I will be positive about our emerging relationship.

Does this mean you will stop the random Kobe attacks?

:eek:

[BeefStew25]

Does this mean you will stop the random Kobe attacks?

:eek:

No, but it means I will only attack Kobe in Lounge and NBA threads. I did not bring him up today until you did.

Now I need you to write a letter to Goodell apologizing. Let me see it before you mail it.

[Rex]

Brandon Marshall didnt rape anyone, did he?

[MOtorboat]

Brandon Marshall didnt rape anyone, did he?

He's got three restraining orders against him...

[Rex]

He's got three restraining orders against him...

sorry Mo...bad joke.:tsk:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Always someone else's fault, right?

When its a hoodrat yes, Hes guilty of falling in love with a hoodrat though. Thats about the only thing hes guilty of.

[MOtorboat]

When its a hoodrat yes, Hes guilty of falling in love with a hoodrat though. Thats about the only thing hes guilty of.

Too bad she's not one of the ones with a restraining order.

[BeefStew25]

When its a hoodrat yes, Hes guilty of falling in love with a hoodrat though. Thats about the only thing hes guilty of.

When I fell in love with my wife, I locked her in a taxi for a couple of hours. That really is the only way to show love, IMO.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

When I fell in love with my wife, I locked her in a taxi for a couple of hours. That really is the only way to show love, IMO.

Yeah even though the dramatic hoodrat took his cellphone.:coffee: Typical hoodrat move.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Too bad she's not one of the ones with a restraining order.

Real men dont get restraining orders on Woman. :lol:No sir ree bob.

[BeefStew25]

Yeah even though the dramatic hoodrat took his cellphone.:coffee: Typical hoodrat move.

Yeah, putting your career on the line for a cell phone is definately worth it.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Yeah, putting your career on the line for a cell phone is definately worth it.

In the heat of an arguement. :coffee: Yeah athletes dont have emotions there super human because they make alot of money. Now its all adding up. Thanks for helping me see the light.

[MOtorboat]

Real men dont get restraining orders on Woman. :lol:No sir ree bob.

You need to do a better job of keeping up with the current events.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I will no longer discuss anything with you dude^ You really disapointed me this time. Lol. Have fun.

[tubby]

When I fell in love with my wife, I locked her in a taxi for a couple of hours. That really is the only way to show love, IMO.

I just raised up like a pimp and slapped the hoe. :coffee:

[Dreadnought]

I just raised up like a pimp and slapped the hoe. :coffee:

There's an old Russian saying to the effect that if you don't beat your wife then she won't know how much you love her. That would make B-Marsh an old fashioned romantic I guess.

[turftoad]

In the heat of an arguement. :coffee: Yeah athletes dont have emotions there super human because they make alot of money. Now its all adding up. Thanks for helping me see the light.

Looks like Brandon has a real hard time controlling his emotions. That's his whole problem here, he doesn't KNOW how to control them.

[Northman]

There's an old Russian saying to the effect that if you don't beat your wife then she won't know how much you love her. That would make B-Marsh an old fashioned romantic I guess.

I guess that makes Rae Carruth the epitome of love then. :lol:

[Dreadnought]

I guess that makes Rae Carruth the epitome of love then. :lol:

Hey, she probably did something to really piss him off, so its OK really.

[turftoad]

Hey, she probably did something to really piss him off, so its OK really.

Yeah......... I suppose Rea had a hard time controlling his emotions too. :tsk:

[Northman]

Hey, she probably did something to really piss him off, so its OK really.

I guess i really need to take up some lessons from Brandon on how to show love and devotion to my loved one. Where's my bat?

[GEM]

I guess i really need to take up some lessons from Brandon on how to show love and devotion to my loved one. Where's my bat?

Read up on Ike Turner...he could give you some lessons. ;)

[Dreadnought]

I guess i really need to take up some lessons from Brandon on how to show love and devotion to my loved one. Where's my bat?

Well, see its different for young athletes nowadays. Wives and girlfriends weren't anywhere near as annoying back in the day, so you didn't have to beat or kill them quite so often. Its different now, which a lot of older guys can't understand. This is why the younger athletes get judged so unfairly.

[Dreadnought]

Read up on Ike Turner...he could give you some lessons. ;)

Ike - now there was a man who could show some big-time Love for his woman!

[Northman]

Read up on Ike Turner...he could give you some lessons. ;)

Yea, i know of Ike but he doesnt have the type of flava that Brandon does. Its no fun if you cant use your car in the process followed by throwing a brick. :D

[tubby]

My sources tell me that Marshall has been suspended 4 games.

[Lonestar]

My sources tell me that Marshall has been suspended 4 games.


just heard the brandon someone got a four week over 104.3 did not get the last name but sounded like foster..

since they did not follow up on it I suspect it was not Marshall

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I am also listening to fm104.3, and they definitely said that Brandon Marshall received a 4 game suspension.

[Lonestar]

it was just confirmed 4 games ..


sorry did not see that Carol had reported it..

[MOtorboat]

Are they reporting it, or are they reporting that someone else is reporting it?

[underrated29]

I just saw it over at BM also- same report, someone got a text.



It will be reduced to 2 games though, or atleast that was the speculation over there.

[Lonestar]

I just saw it over at BM also- same report, someone got a text.



It will be reduced to 2 games though, or atleast that was the speculation over there.



if it is announced as 4 games why would anyone logically think remotely talk about it being reduced..

[MOtorboat]

if it is announced as 4 games why would anyone logically think remotely talk about it being reduced..

Because Jared Allen's was last year.

[tubby]

if it is announced as 4 games why would anyone logically think remotely talk about it being reduced..

Take a laxative.

[Lonestar]

Because Jared Allen's was last year.

and was Allen the screw up that marshal is. Or is he a seasoned vet that made a mistake..

I have not followed that case so he might have had all the baggage that Marshall has..

[MOtorboat]

and was Allen the screw up that marshal is. Or is he a seasoned vet that made a mistake..

I have not followed that case so he might have had all the baggage that Marshall has..

Allen had 2 DUI convictions...

[Rex]

and was Allen the screw up that marshal is. Or is he a seasoned vet that made a mistake..

I have not followed that case so he might have had all the baggage that Marshall has..

He got 2 friggin DUIs in about 6 weeks.


I think that officially makes you a screw up.:rolleyes:

[Dreadnought]

He got 2 friggin DUIs in about 6 weeks.


I think that officially makes you a screw up.:rolleyes:

Yep. It says so right in the screw-up handbook. He is one.

[Lonestar]

Allen had 2 DUI convictions...


He got 2 friggin DUIs in about 6 weeks.


I think that officially makes you a screw up. :rolleyes:

thanks for the info.

since I do not follow KC all that close :rolleyes: pardon me all to hell..

[tubby]

thanks for the info.

since I do not follow KC all that close :rolleyes: pardon me all to hell..

You're excused.

[Rex]

thanks for the info.

since I do not follow KC all that close :rolleyes: pardon me all to hell..

does this :rolleyes: offend?

Not intentional. More of a total disdain for anything and everything Jared Allen.

[tubby]

does this :rolleyes: offend?

Not intentional. More of a total disdain for anything and everything Jared Allen.

Bout time you start showing some respect to the mods around here. :coffee:

[Requiem / The Dagda]

If it's reduced to two, that rules.

[MOtorboat]

If it's reduced to two, that rules.

Nothing about any suspension for BM rules. :coffee:

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Nothing about any suspension for BM rules. :coffee:

He deserved a suspension.

[Rex]

Bout time you start showing some respect to the mods around here. :coffee:

blomee

[MOtorboat]

He deserved a suspension.

I know...but it doesn't rule...

[underrated29]

ok has anyone actually got a legitimate confirmation that this has happened?

Anyone? a text and 104.3 the fan that speculates until the cows come home. I am starting to think this is a rumor.

[BeefStew25]

I am meating my sources here in a bit. Standby.

[tubby]

blomee

Reported for trolling.

[tubby]

No.

I've been looking since Jr posted it.

Nothing on: Denver Post, denverbroncos.com, Rocky Mountain News, NFL.com, CBS Sportsline, Sports Illustrated, Yahoo, Pro Football Weekly, ESPN...anywhere else I should look?

They said on the radio the official work should come early next week.

[MOtorboat]

They said on the radio the official work should come early next week.

OK...just heard it...

[Rex]

OK...just heard it...

OK. Is it official now? The midget heard it....and he works for a newspaper.

Lets get the presses rolling.

[underrated29]

wait you heard it on the radio from the fan, or you heard it elsewhere?

I have one question besides that. (that didnt make any sense).


How can it be official if the official word isnt comming out until next week.

Is it the official announcement of the official announcement, that is official?

this is like something from a mel brooks movie.

[Kaylore]

It was announced on the fan he would be suspended 4 games. Then they back-peddled and said it could be "as high as 4" games. Given that Chris Henry was just re-suspended for four games after his multiple arrests, my hope is it's only two.

[MOtorboat]

wait you heard it on the radio from the fan, or you heard it elsewhere?

I have one question besides that. (that didnt make any sense).


How can it be official if the official word isnt comming out until next week.

Is it the official announcement of the official announcement, that is official?

this is like something from a mel brooks movie.

Well...I meant, OK, I heard the report, not OK, it's official. No, I guess it wouldn't be official until its officially announced, making it official, but its unofficially official.

The fan said "sources close to the situation."

But "sources" can be wrong too.

[underrated29]

Well...I meant, OK, I heard the report, not OK, it's official. No, I guess it wouldn't be official until its officially announced, making it official, but its unofficially official.

The fan said "sources close to the situation."

But "SOURCES CAN BE WRONG TOO.


Thats official.

[NightTrainLayne]

So we're still in the same spot we were yesterday. .. waiting on Gooddell to announce what he's going to do.

[BeefStew25]

So we're still in the same spot we were yesterday. .. waiting on Gooddell to announce what he's going to do.

Based on Marshall's average arrests per year, I think Goodall is waiting on Marshall to get busted again before he announces it.

[GEM]

Based on Marshall's average arrests per year, I think Goodall is waiting on Marshall to get busted again before he announces it.

I just called and told my mom and she said....yea watch him get another dui in the next couple of weeks, the moron.

:tsk: I should whoop her ass, she probably just jinxed him.

[NightTrainLayne]

Based on Marshall's average arrests per year, I think Goodall is waiting on Marshall to get busted again before he announces it.

That would be the smart way to do it. Then he doesn't have to re-open the issue again.

[BeefStew25]

That would be the smart way to do it. Then he doesn't have to re-open the issue again.

One more 911 call, and Goodall is home free.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Just got word on 104.3 that Marshall went and struck his ex-girlfriend after hearing the news and parked his car not in front of her door, but at a McDonald's drive-thru. He's holdin' 'em up for more food bags.

[BeefStew25]

Just got word on 104.3 that Marshall went and struck his ex-girlfriend after hearing the news and parked his car not in front of her door, but at a McDonald's drive-thru. He's holdin' 'em up for more food bags.

No busted plasma's?

[Dreadnought]

Well...I meant, OK, I heard the report, not OK, it's official. No, I guess it wouldn't be official until its officially announced, making it official, but its unofficially official.

The fan said "sources close to the situation."

But "sources" can be wrong too.

That Journalist-ese. It means a more or less educated guess for many journalists with integrity like MB, or "I'm pulling it out of my wazoo" at the New York Times. :D

[Requiem / The Dagda]

No busted plasma's?

This was down in Colfax, they still have the tube TV's.

[Lonestar]

That would be the smart way to do it. Then he doesn't have to re-open the issue again.



twofers or may more like ninefers.. saves the commish face time at the press conference..

[tboltzcali]

So any hope against us if Marshall is suspended???

[Northman]

So any hope against us if Marshall is suspended???

There is always hope whether he is there or not.

[tboltzcali]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.

[NightTrainLayne]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.

Jwalk was our best receiver two years ago. . .now. .. not so much.

[tubby]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.

Wake up. There is plenty of hope with LT on his way down. :coffee:

[Broncos Mtnman]

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/DREW0731.gif

[LRtagger]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.


http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/2007/55173-lolwut.jpg

[Thnikkaman]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.

Sorry, I couldn't understand that since I was being distracted by a certain Sandyeggo QB talking crap to a 5 year old that he just beat at connect 4.

[scott.475]

Sorry, I couldn't understand that since I was being distracted by a certain Sandyeggo QB talking crap to a diabetic 5 year old that he just beat at connect 4.

There, fixed it for you.

I really wish that, when other forums dispatched their smartest trolls to talk trash on our board, they would send them through some remedial spelling, punctuation, and general writing classes first. I know, I wish for too much.

[underrated29]

So any hope against us if Marshall is suspended???



Wait a minute. Where did this guy come from?

I would have to say this is one of the most random places i would have expected to see a bolt troll talking smack.

[shank]

Wait a minute. Where did this guy come from?

I would have to say this is one of the most random places i would have expected to see a bolt troll talking smack.

why is it random? don't you know that keeping smack in the smack forum is a concept beyond the grasp of 96% of charger's trolls?

[Northman]

Well, not much hope when your best receiver left, JWalk, and marshall might be suspended and you have a couple of vets but nothing scary. Even your RB situation isnt at the best.


And yet the Chargers really have nothing scary either but doesnt stop Phyillis from putting up 300 yds passing. Its not always about the WR.

[BroncoJoe]

CANTON, Ohio — Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall will know his disciplinary fate in the coming days.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Friday the league was in “the final stages” of reviewing Marshall’s case and said he expected to make a decision by early next week on the punishment Marshall will face for violating the league’s conduct policy.

Goodell is attending the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies this weekend and monitoring the negotiations between Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers about Favre’s potential return to the field, so he is not expected to get to other issues again until at least Monday.

“But we are in the final stages of that,” Goodell said. “We’ve had a hearing, we’ve had discussions. We’ve got a little more work to do — which was actually done (Friday) morning — and we should be making a ruling very shortly.”

Marshall, as well as former Broncos wide receiver Rod Smith and his Denver-based attorney Harvey Steinberg, met with Goodell earlier this month to review Marshall’s off-the-field troubles in addition to discuss the discipline he could face from the league.

On Friday, Goodell said when he met with Marshall or meets with any other player in regard to the conduct policy, he wants to review what has happened to the player thus far and also hear the player’s plan for the future.

“First is to understand all the facts, to understand all the perspective,” Goodell said. “So we clearly understand the circumstances in which an incident or incidents occurred. Then we also look at the individual player and how they view the incident and how they view their behavior and how they understand that there are consequences with the kind of action they may have been involved with.

“They also understand what I expect of them and I communicate with them what I expect of them as an NFL player.”

Goodell has traditionally levied stricter penalties on players he deems “repeat offenders” and most who have had extended discussions about the conduct policy with the commissioner say Goodell is intent on hearing a player’s plan to avoid additional trouble beyond simply saying there won’t be any more trouble.

Smith has said he intends to mentor Marshall, who led the Broncos in catches, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns (102 for 1,325 yards and seven TDs) last season.

If Marshall were to be suspended for four games, he would miss the Broncos’ first three AFC West games — Denver faces Oakland, San Diego and Kansas City in the first month of the season.

Even if suspended, Marshall can continue to practice in training camp and play in all of the Broncos preseason games.



http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/01/brandon-marshall-broncos-decision/

[red98]

Hopefully Rod's presence at the meeting will help keep the punishment to a minimum.

I guess we'll find out next week.

[Lonestar]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/01/brandon-marshall-broncos-decision/

the key part of that IMO was

"Even if suspended, Marshall can continue to practice in training camp and play in all of the Broncos preseason games."

But when he is suspended and we all know he will be, he is temp banned from being at Dove valley for practices and using the facilities for keeping in shape..

So he will then, be just that much farther out of playing condition when he returns and thus easier to get injured..

Hope he does not get into more trouble while out on an unpaid vacation.. Maybe Rod will let him move in with him.

[BroncoJoe]

I feel like a kid that did something wrong, and am waiting for my Dad to come home from work.

[underrated29]

i Just dont see this big 4 game suspension comming. We all know what jared allen did and got. We all know that chris henry who has been convicted for multiple things in the last 3 years got.......4 games.

Henry ahs been released and NO ONE wants to touch him, even though he is a great talent. They want nothing to do with him because of his actions off the field.

Brandon on the other hand if released would be snatched up in less than 4 hours. Teams would be drooling to get him. and he has not been convicted of anything.

I really am starting to think that he will recieve a 1-2 games suspension TOPS!

I think 1 or none personally.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

This idiot suspended Marshall for 3 games.

[Broncos Mtnman]

Schefter just announced on NFL that Marshall is going to get 3 games. It could be reduced to 2 if he takes anger management counseling (again....)

This idiot better learn from this.... :mad:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

This guy gave Chris Henry 4 games after hes been arrested and suspended before.

Let Marshawn Lynch walk free.

Patriots OL had the feds on him and has not been suspended.

Matt Jones has felony drugs on him and he gets 4 games.

Marshall DUI and gets 3 games.

What a joke. This bullshit just ruined our start of the season something terrible.

[Sassy]

Goodell is too inconsistent with this crap...take away his power :D

[omac]

Goodell is too inconsistent with this crap...take away his power :D

Yup, way too inconsistent.

Hopefully, this will teach Marshall something.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Yup, way too inconsistent.

Hopefully, this will teach Marshall something.

Who votes for the commish job?? Whoever they are must have been drunk when they thought he would be the best man for the job. This guys is so inconsistant and at this point you can tell hes confused.

With the differant levels of suspensions he gives out.

[Simple Jaded]

This guy gave Chris Henry 4 games after hes been arrested and suspended before.

Let Marshawn Lynch walk free.

Patriots OL had the feds on him and has not been suspended.

Matt Jones has felony drugs on him and he gets 4 games.

Marshall DUI and gets 3 games.

What a joke. This bullshit just ruined our start of the season something terrible.

Perhaps you should put the blame where it belongs......with Brandon Marshall.

He's the one to blame here, just thank the Football Gods that he didn't get more.

Hats off to Roger Goodell, he's just what the NFL needs......

[Sassy]

Yup, way too inconsistent.

Hopefully, this will teach Marshall something.

I'm not saying Marshall shouldn't be suspended...just what was the deal with no supsension for Marshawn Lynch? Plus, I think he should wait until after court dates...

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Im not going to blame Marshall. For the simple fact that Goodell has created his own laws. There is no court justice for him. He thinks he is above the law and above the game.

Marshall has not been convicted one 1 thing. Not 1..... Why does he need counseling? The hoodrat is no longer in his life and thats where all of his frustration was coming from.

Being in love with a hoodrat.

[Simple Jaded]

Im not going to blame Marshall. For the simple fact that Goodell has created his own laws. There is no court justice for him. He thinks he is above the law and above the game.

Marshall has not been convicted one 1 thing. Not 1..... Why does he need counseling? The hoodrat is no longer in his life and thats where all of his frustration was coming from.

Being in love with a hoodrat.

Tells me all I need to know, thanks for playin...:rolleyes:...

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Tells me all I need to know, thanks for playin...:rolleyes:...

You never been in love with a dramatic chick? It sucks. Its an emotional roller coaster constantly. You love her so much you stay with her and get acustomed to the drama to the point it almost seems normal.

Next your doomed.

[silkamilkamonico]

Im not going to blame Marshall. For the simple fact that Goodell has created his own laws. There is no court justice for him. He thinks he is above the law and above the game.

LMAO at Goodell creating his own laws. He's following a very basic NFl policy written in the personal conduct policy... "Players can be disciplined for conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs or NFL players."

I also love how you don't blame Marshall, and give him a free pass because he plays for your favorite football team and is a superstar.

[silkamilkamonico]

You never been in love with a dramatic chick? It sucks. Its an emotional roller coaster constantly. You love her so much you stay with her and get acustomed to the drama to the point it almost seems normal.

Next your doomed.


That's not love. That's ignorant stupidity.

[Simple Jaded]

Trust me, I've seen my share of Bunny-boilers, but I've never raised my hand to a female, nor been in the company of Police Officers 13 times.

And fwiw, I do not think Marshall's ex is blameless, I think they're both idiots and the truth is somewhere in between what he says and what she says.

I'm thinking Roger Goodell agrees with me, and I'm thinking this is Marshall's sink-or-swim moment......

[Magnificent Seven]

Broncos WR Marshall likely to be suspended this week

NFL sources said Denver wide receiver Brandon Marshall will be suspended this week for three games for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy, NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports.

The suspension could be dropped to two games if Marshall agrees to undergo counseling during his suspension.

Marshall is due in court in September for a trial on a drunken driving arrest from October 2007. He as been arrested three times in the past year.

Marshall can practice with team but will miss the start of the season. The third-year WR finished last season with 102 catches for 1,325 yards and seven touchdowns.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d809b855d&template=without-video&confirm=true

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

LMAO at Goodell creating his own laws. He's following a very basic NFl policy written in the personal conduct policy... "Players can be disciplined for conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs or NFL players."

I also love how you don't blame Marshall, and give him a free pass because he plays for your favorite football team and is a superstar.

The way he handled the Patriots situation secured the integrity of the NFL? Him trying to tell players they cant have long hair? This guy clearly floats on his own boat.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

That's not love. That's ignorant stupidity.

Love is blind my friend. Love will make people do stupid things. Its a very powerful emotion. In fact the most powerful emotion.

[Simple Jaded]

The way he handled the Patriots situation secured the integrity of the NFL? Him trying to tell players they cant have long hair? This guy clearly floats on his own boat.

What did you want him to do with the Patriots? That's Pandora's box, so be careful what you wish for......

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

What did you want him to do with the Patriots? That's Pandora's box, so be careful what you wish for......

Whats a pandora box? And what he should have did to the patriots was take away both the picks. Then suspend the head coach for 4 games.

What kind of message are we sending to the kids as a whole? Its okay to cheat and spy on your opponants? But in the meantime your going to promote Beer and alchohal on gameday every other commercial and then get mad when a player drinks it?

This could go on forever though. Whats done is done. I still will never like Goodell and it has nothing to do with him suspending Marshall. Just added on.

[Simple Jaded]

It's Pandora's Box because Spygate is a thread you don't want to pull, it could have unraveled into a whirlpool of BS for the entire league.

Believe it......

[dekers]

Schefter is almost Never wrong when its about the Broncos , I think Rod Smith going with Marshall had a lot to do with it only being 3 games. I also think Rod might be a reason for the anger management counseling . Thanks Rod always a team player. I really hope Marshall can get his life together now not only for the broncos but for him self as well.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

It's Pandora's Box because Spygate is a thread you don't want to pull, it could have unraveled into a whirlpool of BS for the entire league.

Believe it......

So your saying Goodell should have brushed what they did under the rug as he did to protect the league?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Schefter is almost Never wrong when its about the Broncos , I think Rod Smith going with Marshall had a lot to do with it only being 3 games. I also think Rod might be a reason for the anger management counseling . Thanks Rod always a team player. I really hope Marshall can get his life together now not only for the broncos but for him self as well.

Shefter is right 99.8% of the time. I believe the story. I hope its flawed though lol. Shefter did report that Favre was going to take the money and retire 2 days ago though. I know its wishful thinking on my part.

[dekers]

Shefter is right 99.8% of the time. I believe the story. I hope its flawed though lol. Shefter did report that Favre was going to take the money and retire 2 days ago though. I know its wishful thinking on my part.

I wish he was right about Favre too. the season has not even started and am tired of hearing about Farve.

[hamrob]

There's no doubt that this is a negative....but two games isn't the end of the world. We've got solid depth and a couple more weeks for BMarsh to get his forearm back in shape isn't actually too bad a deal. The time shoudl only make him think about his mistakes and make him more hungry for the season!

SUSPENSION COMING FOR MARSHALL
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2008, 11:32 p.m.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network, who was doing double duty on Sunday night as the sideline reporter for NBC’s coverage of the Hall of Fame game, reports that Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall will be suspended three games by the NFL for violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.

Per Schefter, the suspension will be cut to two games if Marshall agrees to undergo counseling, presumably for anger management.

Marshall will be permitted to continue practicing with the team until the week before the first regular-season game.

[Lonestar]

I wish he was right about Favre too. the season has not even started and am tired of hearing about Farve.

The last I heard is Farve is cleared to play and will report tomorow to TC..

Wish I was a fly on the wall in GB HQ right now, burning up the phone lines trying to find someplace to trade him to..

I wonder who they are going to cut to make the roster spot for him and better yet how many they have to cut to clear caps space.. 12 mill is a lot of shekels..

Talk about rock and hard spot.. What maroons.. cut him so he can got to MIN and kick there ass twice a year for the next few years..

[Lonestar]

There's no doubt that this is a negative....but two games isn't the end of the world. We've got solid depth and a couple more weeks for BMarsh to get his forearm back in shape isn't actually too bad a deal. The time shoudl only make him think about his mistakes and make him more hungry for the season!

SUSPENSION COMING FOR MARSHALL
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2008, 11:32 p.m.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network, who was doing double duty on Sunday night as the sideline reporter for NBC’s coverage of the Hall of Fame game, reports that Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall will be suspended three games by the NFL for violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.

Per Schefter, the suspension will be cut to two games if Marshall agrees to undergo counseling, presumably for anger management.

Marshall will be permitted to continue practicing with the team until the week before the first regular-season game.

damn I missed the HOF game wow I may not sleep tonight knowing this..

[pnbronco]

Two games are not the end of the world. I hope that this is a real wake up call for him. I also hope that Rod and the counseling can start teaching him a new way to deal with his emotions and help him grow up. This sounds pretty close to official, BTW MB and UR I really got a great laugh out of your "official" posts.