Jarvis Green to be cut?!

[broncobryce]

Shefty just tweeted.

[honz]

Hot damn, you were fast with this one! Multiple tweeters confirm this to be true.

[broncobryce]

Guess he re-tweeted a MikeReiss: Bit of a suprise in Denver, where it looks like former Pats DL Jarvis Green has been informed he won't be on 53 man roster.

[BroncoWave]

From Lindsay Jones:

"Green collected a $2.5 Million signing bonus, $755,000 guar salary for this year. So walks w/$3.255M for 6 months work."

[honz]

@PostBroncos: Green was the starter at RDE in OTAs but lost the job to McBean by camp and never made a push to get it back. 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

[Buff]

Man, he must have really sucked bad during camp if the coaches are willing to eat the $3million plus that they just paid him...

[SoCalImport]

Wow. I never would've guessed this. I don't think anybody could've. He seemed like such a nose to the grindstone "character" guy. And certainly showed enough talent in NE to expect him to make the frickin team.

What a bummer.

[broncobryce]

Plus, we need D-line depth. Does this mean Marcus Thomas is good? Or do they plan on picking up someone elses cuts? You can't tell me Lekevin Smith is better than Green.

[turftoad]

Another expensive mistake. Kinda like giving up a 1st round pick for maybe a 5th round pick. :tsk:

[TXBRONC]

Shefty just tweeted.

Way to be on the ball Bryce. :beer:

[TXBRONC]

If this is the case then maybe McDaniels shouldn't have let Holliday walk away.

[Northman]

We will be ok. Wink will save the day. At least i hope so.

[LordTrychon]

From Lindsay Jones:

"Green collected a $2.5 Million signing bonus, $755,000 guar salary for this year. So walks w/$3.255M for 6 months work."

How was his salary guaranteed? That's ridiculous!

Isn't that what signing bonuses are for?

[rationalfan]

Another expensive mistake. Kinda like giving up a 1st round pick for maybe a 5th round pick. :tsk:

first, i'd rather have the team admit the mistake now rather than play someone who's terrible and could cost the team a game or two.

second, you're condemning the organization for something that hasn't happened; something that's nothing more than internet gossip. i know some of y'all search for anything to complain about the team's power structure, but keep the rips in reality.

[Buff]

Keep in mind there is no salary cap people, so the only person who ought to be pissed about the bad personnel decision is Pat Bowlen.

[getlynched47]

I really don't understand the move.

At worst, keep him as a pass-rush specialist in the mold of Vonnie Holliday. Green couldn't of been that bad, could he?

I'm baffled. But oh well.

[TXBRONC]

Keep in mind there is no salary cap people, so the only person who ought to be pissed about the bad personnel decision is Pat Bowlen.

I can imagine that McDaniels is any happier.

[TXBRONC]

How was his salary guaranteed? That's ridiculous!

Isn't that what signing bonuses are for?

Lindsay must be wrong. As you said salaries are not guaranteed in the NFL.

[BroncoWave]

Lindsay must be wrong. As you said salaries are not guaranteed in the NFL.

She did retweet that from someone else FWIW.

[TXBRONC]

She did retweet that from someone else FWIW.

That I did not know.

[silkamilkamonico]

Another expensive mistake. Kinda like giving up a 1st round pick for maybe a 5th round pick. :tsk:

It's Denver. We've had a plethora of expensive mistakes, via draft and free agency, for almost 12 years now, and I wouldn't expect a new immature coach to come in and put an end to that immediately.

[bcbronc]

Too bad Green didn't work out but he was invisible against 2nd and 3rd stringers. Would be happier if some young pup had pushed Green off the roster though.
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[Tempus Fugit]

No surprise here. As a pass rushing specialist who can no longer get to the passer, his signing was a mistake.

[Bosco]

This one sure surprises me. I wonder if he got a payday and decided to get lazy.

[Dean]

From Lindsay Jones:

"Green collected a $2.5 Million signing bonus, $755,000 guar salary for this year. So walks w/$3.255M for 6 months work."

Great pay if you can get it.

Hey sign me I can't make the cut.

[Tempus Fugit]

This one sure surprises me. I wonder if he got a payday and decided to get lazy.

I don't think so. His play in New England had been declining, and he failed miserably when he was made the starter last year. This signing was a mistake by McDaniels, who was probably being a bit too sentimental about a former player.

[TXBRONC]

Great pay if you can get it.

Hey sign me I can't make the cut.

Nah McDaniels would keep around just to work your ass off. :D

[getlynched47]

According to Josina Anderson, and her crappy-ass english, the Broncos are basically swapping Jarvis Green for Kenny Peterson on the roster.


So DE Jarvis Green is cut, & t/ man thy released him 4 & paid less DE Kenny Peterson is right arnd t/ corner fr Dove Valley now

translates to

"So Defensive End Jarvis Green was cut. And the man they released him for and paid less to is Defensive End Kenny Peterson, who is right around the corner from Dove Valley as I tweet this. I'm an idiot." -Josina Anderson

[pnbronco]

OK I don't understand the whole tweet stuff and you know how I feel about Josina but.....please interpret and if it's true I could be just a little happier.....

Josina Anderson:

Quote:
So DE Jarvis Green is cut, & t/ man thy released him 4 & paid less DE Kenny Peterson is right arnd t/ corner fr Dove Valley now

I know Kenny was in town this last week because of his business.

[Bosco]

I don't think so. His play in New England had been declining, and he failed miserably when he was made the starter last year. This signing was a mistake by McDaniels, who was probably being a bit too sentimental about a former player.

I've always known that he doesn't do well as a starter, but I figured he still had enough in the tank to give us a couple years as a backup/pass rush specialist. That's why I'm wondering if maybe he got the payday and got lazy.

Or maybe they've seen enough from the younger guys to be confident in releasing him. I don't know.

[BroncoWave]

According to Josina Anderson, and her crappy-ass english, the Broncos are basically swapping Jarvis Green for Kenny Peterson on the roster.



translates to

"So Defensive End Jarvis Green was cut. And the man they released him for and paid less to is Defensive End Kenny Peterson, who is right around the corner from Dove Valley as I tweet this. I'm an idiot." -Josina Anderson

You have a character limit on twitter so sometimes you have to shorthand.

[honz]

OK I don't understand the whole tweet stuff and you know how I feel about Josina but.....please interpret and if it's true I could be just a little happier.....

Josina Anderson:

Quote:
So DE Jarvis Green is cut, & t/ man thy released him 4 & paid less DE Kenny Peterson is right arnd t/ corner fr Dove Valley now

I know Kenny was in town this last week because of his business.
I saw this and didn't take it as the Broncos were bringing Peterson back, simply that he was in town or living near Dove Valley. I don't see the Broncos bringing him back after cutting him outright before camp...who knows though.

[TXBRONC]

According to Josina Anderson, and her crappy-ass english, the Broncos are basically swapping Jarvis Green for Kenny Peterson on the roster.



translates to

"So Defensive End Jarvis Green was cut. And the man they released him for and paid less to is Defensive End Kenny Peterson, who is right around the corner from Dove Valley as I tweet this. I'm an idiot." -Josina Anderson

Which means we still don't have nickle defensive end who can rush the passer.

[honz]

You have a character limit on twitter so sometimes you have to shorthand.

Did you really just defend that player pandering hack? :tsk:

[BroncoWave]

Did you really just defend that player pandering hack? :tsk:

People are acting like she's the only person who tweets like that. I wasn't defending her reporting skills. :noidea:

[honz]

Good. I would have lost all respect for you. :lol:

[pnbronco]

People are acting like she's the only person who tweets like that. I wasn't defending her reporting skills. :noidea:

Thanks BB I really did need that laugh......:laugh:

Hey Lynch great minds think alike and we must have posted this the same time and in the same place......ok...so you'e faster and I bet younger.....:D

[BroncoWave]

Good. I would have lost all respect for you. :lol:

I'm not sure where you could have even gotten that based on me posting about character limits on twitter. :lol:

[getlynched47]

You have a character limit on twitter so sometimes you have to shorthand.

Adam Schefter also has a character limit on his tweets, yet his are coherent. For example:


Too much praise, too much criticism and too much emotion over NFL predictions. Some will be right, some wrong. Games are ultimate judge.

If he could fit that in two lines, my translation could fit in two lines also :lol:

;)

[pnbronco]

Adam Schefter also has a character limit on his tweets, yet his are coherent. For example:



If he could fit that in two lines, my translation could fit in two lines also :lol:

;)

Maybe Schefter knew how to spell before tweets......:whoknows:

(Completely unrelated to this thread...got to see Lynch at the game on Sunday, he's such a great guy. It's nice to see he's doing so well after football, but he did not want to leave the field. He talked to everyone and man hugged every player that came by....:D)

[Traveler]

Shefty just tweeted.

Called this the week before last and again yesterday. Gotta give myself my own pat on the back:beer:.

Most everyone should have seen this coming when the article came out that McBean held of Green as the starter.

You don't pay that much for a second string player....PERIOD!

[Tempus Fugit]

...You don't pay that much for a second string player....PERIOD!

I hope McDaniels didn't make the cut based upon that kind of flawed thinking. With this being an uncapped year, that would be another mistake.

[T.K.O.]

his 2.5 mil bonus and salary are gauranteed this year so $$$ had nothing to do with it

[TXBRONC]

his 2.5 mil bonus and salary are gauranteed this year so $$$ had nothing to do with it

It's wasted of salary.

[T.K.O.]

It's wasted of salary.

yep ! but it's better for them to throw some cash away and field the best team possible than to say "crap we need to keep this guy because we spent money on him".....yes?

[TXBRONC]

yep ! but it's better for them to throw some cash away and field the best team possible than to say "crap we need to keep this guy because we spent money on him".....yes?

No it would have been better not sign him at all. Fudge pointed he's been on the decline for couple years now.

[Bosco]

It's wasted of salary.

Technically, we "wasted" money on every player we cut, since they were paid for their services but won't be part of the 53 man roster though. That's just how it works, and NFL teams look at it as an operating expense. It's one reason why back loading contracts became so popular.

[pnbronco]

yep ! but it's better for them to throw some cash away and field the best team possible than to say "crap we need to keep this guy because we spent money on him".....yes?

It makes my stomach hurt to think of that much money being spent on someone who is cut, but a lot of things in football make my stomach hurt if I think of it in real money terms.

All I can say is that Green must of really lost a step and I like Green a lot, he was so nice at camp. Maybe Josh is growing up and just wants to face his mistakes up front and not keep someone on because he knows them from before (L. Jordon). Also this is not a cut on Josh, I seem to remember reading how much we paid Boss Bailey and I think the guy played like a half of game....another one that made my stomach hurt and I could go on and on......

[TXBRONC]

It makes my stomach hurt to think of that much money being spent on someone who is cut, but a lot of things in football make my stomach hurt if I think of it in real money terms.

All I can say is that Green must of really lost a step and I like Green a lot, he was so nice at camp. Maybe Josh is growing up and just wants to face his mistakes up front and not keep someone on because he knows them from before (L. Jordon). Also this is not a cut on Josh, I seem to remember reading how much we paid Boss Bailey and I think the guy played like a half of game....another one that made my stomach hurt and I could go on and on......

Green's stats bare out that he really hadn't been doing all that well for the last couple of years.

[pnbronco]

Green's stats bare out that he really hadn't been doing all that well for the last couple of years.

I'm not trying to disagree with you TX, but wasn't Stoks in kind of the same place when he came to Denver? Some times it works out and some times it doesn't.

Trust me when I'm trying to sell something that costs $ 2.35 and people are acting like it's a life and death decision football makes my stomach hurt.

:hug:

[T.K.O.]

No it would have been better not sign him at all. Fudge pointed he's been on the decline for couple years now.

every team has to make some tough decisions today...there will be millions paid by teams for cutting players they took a chance on....sure it would be better to not have to pay them but who cares.each team makes millions and millions every year.its not like it's gonna set the team back for seasons to come:beer:

[getlynched47]

So is Kenny Peterson back with the Broncos? Or is Josina Anderson full of shit?

[Dean]

So is Kenny Peterson back with the Broncos? Or is Josina Anderson full of shit?

Your second question has absolutely nothing to do with the first. Whether Kenny the "I'm blown off the ball again" is back or not. We already know the answer to the second question.

[I Eat Staples]

Our current coach and front office continue to prove they don't have a clue what the hell they're doing. Why sign a player like Green just to release him?

We could have made use of him as a situational pass rusher. Now we get treated to another full year of Ryan McBean. Woohoo.

[Bosco]

Our current coach and front office continue to prove they don't have a clue what the hell they're doing. Why sign a player like Green just to release him?

We could have made use of him as a situational pass rusher. Now we get treated to another full year of Ryan McBean. Woohoo.

Reading this, you'd think Josh McDaniels was the first guy to ever have a free agent signing not work out for him.

[I Eat Staples]

Reading this, you'd think Josh McDaniels was the first guy to ever have a free agent signing not work out for him.

But that's the thing, we didn't give him a chance. If he played this season and looked bad, I would chalk it up as a signing that didn't work out and get rid of him. But getting rid of a player/contract like that before the season starts is ridiculous.

[Bosco]

But that's the thing, we didn't give him a chance. If he played this season and looked bad, I would chalk it up as a signing that didn't work out and get rid of him. But getting rid of a player/contract like that before the season starts is ridiculous.

Why? We had a surplus of corners with Thompson, Vaughn and Cox coming on, so why not unload the only guy of the group with trade value to pick up someone to fill a void that we have?

[broncobryce]

There IS a limit to how many guys you can keep on your roster. He got beat out. Why keep him if he doesn't deserve to make it? Must not have been working hard enough. Reward the guys who are.

[I Eat Staples]

Why? We had a surplus of corners with Thompson, Vaughn and Cox coming on, so why not unload the only guy of the group with trade value to pick up someone to fill a void that we have?

I was talking about Green...but I completely disagree with the Smith trade as well, as that is what you're referring to. We didn't "fill a void", we picked up another irrelevant TE.

[Bosco]

I was talking about Green...but I completely disagree with the Smith trade as well, as that is what you're referring to. We didn't "fill a void", we picked up another irrelevant TE.

Sorry, I'm getting my threads mixed up here.

Anyways, I guess Josh and Co. liked the McBean/Thomas combo better. I have a hunch they're going to try turning Marcus into a younger, more physically talented version of Jarvis Green.

[I Eat Staples]

Sorry, I'm getting my threads mixed up here.

Anyways, I guess Josh and Co. liked the McBean/Thomas combo better. I have a hunch they're going to try turning Marcus into a younger, more physically talented version of Jarvis Green.

Maybe, but I think it's stupid...and I don't like that combo one bit.

If we were going to sign Green to a 4 year contract, we could at least give him a season to show what he has left. Cutting him after preseason makes no sense.

[Bosco]

Maybe they bring him back at a cheaper salary.

[bcbronc]

Did you watch Green's preseason? He was completely neutralizzed by 2nd and 3rd stringers. Green would have filled a void so McDaniels took a chance on him but it didn't work out. Happens to every team and not a big deal.
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[TXBRONC]

There IS a limit to how many guys you can keep on your roster. He got beat out. Why keep him if he doesn't deserve to make it? Must not have been working hard enough. Reward the guys who are.

That true however he was expected to make the team and to start that's why they gave him the contract that they did.

[BeefStew25]

We are under the cap and it isn't our money. Other than that, I didn't even know he was on our team.