PUP List

[BroncoWave]

I have seen a bunch of talk on here saying you can't put someone on the PUP list after TC starts. I just saw on ESPN that the Vikes put Sidney Rice on PUP so obviously that's wrong. Am I missing something here?

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Maybe we'll do the same with Dumervil. I think that means he has to return by week 8, though? :confused::confused:

[BeefStew25]

It is if the player likes dogs! OMG!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I have seen a bunch of talk on here saying you can't put someone on the PUP list after TC starts. I just saw on ESPN that the Vikes put Sidney Rice on PUP so obviously that's wrong. Am I missing something here?

Did Rice participate in training camp? That may be the difference.

[Lonestar]

The term Physically Unable to Perform is the term for a rule in the National Football League which allows teams to designate players as "Physically Unable to Perform" or "PUP". Once they are designated as such, they are prohibited from practicing with the team. They can, however, rehabilitate and participate in team meetings. If a player begins training camp on the PUP list, they can be moved to the active roster at any time, even after one practice. A player is not allowed to be placed on the PUP list if they start training camp on the active roster, even if they take part in only the first few minutes of the first practice.

A player who begins the regular season on the PUP list must sit out his team's first six games. After that point, a team has three weeks to start having the player practice; once the player begins practicing, the team has another three weeks to put the player on the active roster. If the player is not activated by that time, or if he does not begin practicing within that three week window, he must remain on the PUP list for the remainder of the season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physically_Unable_to_Perform



Clarifying NFL rules on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list

* July 28th, 2009 9:39 pm CT


Will Antwaun Molden start training camp on Active PUP? (Photo: houstontexans.com)

There's been a lot of PUP list references in the news today so I thought I'd dust off some clarification of one of the most misunderstood eligibility rules in the NFL.

First and foremost, there are two PUP lists.

The PUP list that you may have seen in today's news stories refers to the 'Active PUP' list.

The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.


If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.

A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp, so that's why you're seeing the stories popping up now.

A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.

A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).

And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.

At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.

Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.

Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.

Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.

If a player is activated off the Reserve PUP following Week 6, a roster move is required to make room . That's what happened on October 17, 2008 when Dunta Robinson was activated from Reserve PUP and Chris Taylor was placed on injured reserve.

From what I've been reading in various news sources, I would imagine the only Active PUP candidates for the Texans are Antwaun Molden and Travis Johnson.

If Molden doesn't start training camp on Active PUP, it's good news since Active PUP is typically a hedge against the possibility that the player won't be ready to go during the first few weeks of the regular season.


http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/clarifying-nfl-rules-on-the-physically-unable-to-perform-pup-list

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I found the following: Don't know if this is accurate or not:

http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/clarifying-nfl-rules-on-the-physically-unable-to-perform-pup-list-1

First and foremost, there are two PUP lists.

The PUP list that you will see in news stories as teams enter camp refers to the 'Active PUP' list.

The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp. I'm guessing tight end Anthony Hill will be the only Texans player to go on Active PUP next Friday.

If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.

A few other rules:


* A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp.
* A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
* A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).

And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.

At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.


* Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.
* Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
* Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.

If a player is activated off the Reserve PUP following Week 6, a roster move is required to make room . That's what happened on October 17, 2008 when Dunta Robinson was activated from Reserve PUP and Chris Taylor was placed on injured reserve.

Active PUP is typically a hedge against the possibility that the player won't be ready to go during the first few weeks of the regular season.

If a player starts training camp healthy but gets hurt during camp or preseason, there is no Active PUP option.

In that situation, the team will have to decide whether to keep the player on the 53 and let him heal, put him on waived-injured status, or if the team wants to keep the player and if the injury is serious enough (Troy Nolan in 2009), put him on IR at the beginning of the season and hope for better things in the future.

[pnbronco]

Just saw this on the Vikings web site:

PLACED ON RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM
PLAYER................................ POS...... SCHOOL
Sidney Rice........................... WR........ South Carolina

Maybe the difference is that it's Reserve/PUP????

[missingnumber7]

Did Rice participate in training camp? That may be the difference.

Rice never participated in TC, not exactly sure when he was hurt, but it was before TC started, they thought he would return during TC but Now looks like it will be after week 6 for sure.

[MadMax]

Sidney Rice says there's no doubt he'll be ready for opener
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 30, 2010 10:44 PM ET
Sidney Rice's lingering hip injury has lingered longer than expected, placing him on the active/PUP list to start training camp.

Rice admitted that two of the three specialists he saw this offseason recommended surgery, but he decided not to have it.

"The plan now is just to rehab and getting everything back like it's supposed to be," Rice said on Friday, according to Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

The injury first occurred in the NFC Championship game, but Rice said there's no doubt he'll be ready to take on Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter, and the rest of the Saints secondary during the season opener.

Is it too early to start breaking down Week One?

A couple weeks later Rice decided on his own that he would need surgery so never came to camp, this is why he is PUP eligible.

[slim]

It is if the player likes dogs! OMG!

Calm down, bey.