Mike Bell expects to be cut

[Lonestar]

Broncos running back Mike Bell tells CBS4 Broncos Insider Gary Miller he is expecting to be cut from the team Monday.

Bell is scheduled for a meeting with coach Monday afternoon, Miller reports.

[Kaylore]

Well that's how things are. Look at how many fullbacks are on the team - real fullbacks.

[underrated29]

yeah just heard that.

Also i am sure someone is making a thread on it now but shockey got traded to the saints for a 2nd and a 5th.,

[BeefStew25]

I like how Mike Bell fought for his spot, and didn't let anyone take it from him....



...oh, nevermind.

[Den21vsBal19]

'Tis a shame really, there's something great about an undrafted rook not only making the team, but making a noticable contribution............

However, he hardly made a contribution last season, and I can't say this is a suprise...........especially having drafter both a FB & RB, plus adding Aldridge through FA

[turftoad]

I'm sure he'll end up somewhere.

[Benetto]

What an idiot...Even if you know you're gonna be cut, why talk about it like you've given up already...

I like the guy, but come on man...Show some confidence.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

This is good news for the team and fans, Mike Bell will land a job somewhere else. But Broncos cant afford to keep 7 RBs again. Trying to label them FBs when there not.

[underrated29]

Id rather have cut pittman, personally. Neither would probably ever see the field again, and pittman is a good catcher as well and he can play mulitple positions, but m bell is younger and a feel good story.

Pittman is older and not a feel good story.

[Magnificent Seven]

Broncos running back Mike Bell tells CBS4 Broncos Insider Gary Miller he is expecting to be cut from the team Monday.

Bell is scheduled for a meeting with coach Monday afternoon, Miller reports.

Niners need him and they need a good fullback to block for Frank Gore.

[topscribe]

What an idiot...Even if you know you're gonna be cut, why talk about it like you've given up already...

I like the guy, but come on man...Show some confidence.

It isn't a matter of confidence. He had the inside information, being on the
inside, and he saw the writing on the wall. He was just saying it is what it is.
It isn't confidence to say I'm staying when they have said you're leaving.

At any rate, I'm not all too sure about that move. Mike has proven he can
carry the ball, and he can do so effectively. The Broncos have a stable full
of largely unproven backs. I realize the pressure is greater this year to get
down to 80 players for camp instead of the erstwhile 120, but I just think I
would have waited.

But then, as I said before, it's probably a good thing I'm not the coach . . .

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[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

It isn't a matter of confidence. He had the inside information, being on the
inside, and he saw the writing on the wall. He was just saying it is what it is.
It isn't confidence to say I'm staying when they have said you're leaving.

At any rate, I'm not all too sure about that move. Mike has proven he can
carry the ball, and he can do so effectively. The Broncos have a stable full
of largely unproven backs. I realize the pressure is greater this year to get
down to 80 players for camp instead of the erstwhile 120, but I just think I
would have waited.

But then, as I said before, it's probably a good thing I'm not the coach . . .

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He as also proved that he cant be depended on. That he is a fumbler. I understand some Bronco fans will be sad because he was such a feel good story his rookie year but its showing he went undrafted for a reason. Dude fumbles and he gets hurt all the time. Id rather Aldridge an explosive guy get the spot anyway. We have pounders already.

[shank]

He as also proved that he cant be depended on. That he is a fumbler. I understand some Bronco fans will be sad because he was such a feel good story his rookie year but its showing he went undrafted for a reason. Dude fumbles and he gets hurt all the time. Id rather Aldridge an explosive guy get the spot anyway. We have pounders already.

mike fumbled twice in 163 carries... by no means is he a fumbler.

[BroncoJoe]

I don't know that I'd label him a fumbler. His rookie year, he had nearly 160 carries and fumbled once, IIRC.

[Lonestar]

Mike was a good kid and hope he catches on somewhere soon..

I know that there will be more cuts before they open the doors for training camp..

Probably wanted to give him a chance of catching on with someone early..

He has a nose for the goal line as witnessed in his rookie year..IIRC 7 TD's

He is a tweener not big enough as a true FB to big for RB. I'd rather seen pittman go..

for that matter SAPP

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He as also proved that he cant be depended on. That he is a fumbler. I understand some Bronco fans will be sad because he was such a feel good story his rookie year but its showing he went undrafted for a reason. Dude fumbles and he gets hurt all the time. Id rather Aldridge an explosive guy get the spot anyway. We have pounders already.

If Alridge doesn't make it as a returner, he won't make the squad, IMO. The
Broncos already have Young and Hall, two speed mechants at RB, who also
outweigh their jock straps, as opposed to Alridge.

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[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Im not a fan of Hall.....I think Aldridge is much more explosive and great in the open field making guys miss. But we will see.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/bell.broncos.mike.2.776033.html

CBS4: Broncos Cut RB Mike Bell

DENVER (CBS4) ― Broncos running back Mike Bell told CBS4 Broncos Insider Gary Miller he was expecting to be cut from the team Monday and the Broncos made it official Monday afternoon.

Bell went to a scheduled meeting with Jim Goodman, Director of Player Personnel, Monday afternoon, Miller reported.

Bell left the meeting but didn't talk to reporters.

Goodman returned a call to Miller confirming Bell was cut.

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Mike was a good kid and hope he catches on somewhere soon..

I know that there will be more cuts before they open the doors for training camp..

Probably wanted to give him a chance of catching on with someone early..

He has a nose for the goal line as witnessed in his rookie year..IIRC 7 TD's

He is a tweener not big enough as a true FB to big for RB. I'd rather seen pittman go..

for that matter SAPP

Good comment, except for the "too big for RB" part. I could say tell that to
Jerome Bettis. But instead, I will comment that, if that is so, then we can't
have much hope for Torain, who is roughly the same size as Bell . . .

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[shank]

also, 8 touchdowns... or double what travis henry provided us...

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Ony differance between Torain and Bell is while they may weigh about the same, Bell frame was much more thinner. Torain is very thick and solid. I think his chances of carrying it 25 times are higher than Bells ever was.

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Im not a fan of Hall.....I think Aldridge is much more explosive and great in the open field making guys miss. But we will see.

Great in the open field, and, at his weight, a ping-pong ball at the LOS. That
is my impression of Alridge at the pro level. But it takes power to break
tackles, as Hall did here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z3lwdYLJxE). I just don't see Alridge doing that.

(I couldn't find the clip of his 62-yard TD run where Hall blows by everybody.)

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[topscribe]

Ony differance between Torain and Bell is while they may weigh about the same, Bell frame was much more thinner. Torain is very thick and solid. I think his chances of carrying it 25 times are higher than Bells ever was.

Hmmm . . . in my four years of following Bell right here in Tucson, at the
University of Arizona, I have never noticed a "skinny" Bell. I think you are just
guessing now, because I assure you that you don't have that one right . . .

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[BroncoJoe]

It's official:


Mike Bell finally has gone from the doghouse to the outhouse.

The one-time Broncos starting running back, whose playing time diminished last season after a switch to fullback, was released Monday as the club began making room for rookie signings.

Bell, 24, posted the fourth-highest rushing yards by an undrafted NFL rookie during his debut season in 2006 out of the University of Arizona. He added eight touchdowns to his 677-yard output that year. But after struggling near the goal line in the 2006 season-finale with the playoffs on the line, he nearly disappeared.

Bell was moved to a blocking role and played in just five games last year. He notched just six overall carries and after a critical fumble on his lone attempt in a Nov. 25 loss at Chicago was declared inactive the rest of the season.

Denver also cut kicker Garrett Hartley, a rookie free agent out of Oklahoma. That leaves Matt Prater as the only player at the position in wake of veteran Jason Elam’s departure in free agency.


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/21/broncos-waive-rb-bell-kicker-hartley/

[jrelway]

good riddance.

[Lonestar]

Good comment, except for the "too big for RB" part. I could say tell that to
Jerome Bettis. But instead, I will comment that, if that is so, then we can't
have much hope for Torain, who is roughly the same size as Bell . . .

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He was to big to make it as a speed merchant carrying an extra 15 pounds for blocking as your primary duty or getting that last yard inside the 5 is another thing altogether..

Torain has more speed so I'm guessing they saw more upside with him..

[sneakers]

So how many running backs do we have left on our roster now? 9 or 10?

[shank]

i hope that means that they like what they see in prater

[Retired_Member_001]

Mike Bell will never make it as a Fullback. He is by far, one of the worst blocking backs in the league. As a goaline/situational back though, there could be a future for him on another team though.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Bell will never make it as a Fullback. He is by far, one of the worst blocking backs in the league. As a goaline/situational back though, there could be a future for him on another team though.

Might end up in Houston.

[Lonestar]

Might end up in Houston.

everyone else does.. Seem like we are their farm team ..

Of course they had a better record that we did so maybe it is true.:laugh:

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Hmmm . . . in my four years of following Bell right here in Tucson, at the
University of Arizona, I have never noticed a "skinny" Bell. I think you are just
guessing now, because I assure you that you don't have that one right . . .

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Torain appears to be the bigger back with thicker legs than Mike Bell. And just because two guys weigh the same dont mean they have the same body type. So thats what i meant.

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Torain appears to be the bigger back with thicker legs than Mike Bell. And just because two guys weigh the same dont mean they have the same body type. So thats what i meant.


Actually, you have derailed my point. If you go back to Post #19 and read
the post to which I responded, it might give you a better idea of what I was
getting at . . .

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[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Actually, you have derailed my point. If you go back to Post #19 and read
the post to which I responded, it might give you a better idea of what I was
getting at . . .

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Oh i read that, I was just looking at the same size as Mike Bell part of it and sayign that Torain was the bigger back thats all. I have high hopes for Torain....This year.

[Tned]

Torain appears to be the bigger back with thicker legs than Mike Bell. And just because two guys weigh the same dont mean they have the same body type. So thats what i meant.

I am in the middle of a work project, and just checking in, so I don't have time to research, but wasn't Torrain's 40 time quite a bit faster than Bell's as well as a possible size/body difference?

Plus, while I know we have varying opinions of how knowledgable the various talking heads are, at one point Kiper had Torrain listed as the second best senior RB prior to his final year and his injury.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

No Mike Bell ran a 4.56 and Torain ran a 4.6, So Mike Bell was a bit faster on tracks. Torain is much more of a load to bring down though and has a great burst after he hits the hole. However he will not be breaking 60 yard touchdowns like Portis lol. Hes just a big bruising back who drags around 6 guys hanging off of him. Who will break occasional 25-30 yard runs. Mike Bell was the same thing he was just easier to bring down and has less wiggle than Torain. But its official Mike Bell just got waived.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Oh and Mike Bell was 225 coming out, Torain was listed as 222.

[tubby]

Mods please change the title of the thread to "Bye Bye Shimmy" or prancy.

[Rex]

at least he wont soil the #30 jersey any longer.

[BeefStew25]

at least he wont soil the #30 jersey any longer.

Yeah, I think that is actually the most important thing.

Do you guys think he is still a Bronco fan?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

at least he wont soil the #30 jersey any longer.

:laugh: Yeah didnt really live up to that number.

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No Mike Bell ran a 4.56 and Torain ran a 4.6, So Mike Bell was a bit faster on tracks. Torain is much more of a load to bring down though and has a great burst after he hits the hole. However he will not be breaking 60 yard touchdowns like Portis lol. Hes just a big bruising back who drags around 6 guys hanging off of him. Who will break occasional 25-30 yard runs. Mike Bell was the same thing he was just easier to bring down and has less wiggle than Torain. But its official Mike Bell just got waived.

Torain ran 4.6 on a bad foot. He ran 4.5 after the foot had improved (but was not completely healthy).

http://www.darrenmcfadden.org/darren-mcfadden-news06212007.php
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=67844

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[Tned]

No Mike Bell ran a 4.56 and Torain ran a 4.6, So Mike Bell was a bit faster on tracks. Torain is much more of a load to bring down though and has a great burst after he hits the hole. However he will not be breaking 60 yard touchdowns like Portis lol. Hes just a big bruising back who drags around 6 guys hanging off of him. Who will break occasional 25-30 yard runs. Mike Bell was the same thing he was just easier to bring down and has less wiggle than Torain. But its official Mike Bell just got waived.

Not that it is a big difference, but I think Bell ran 4.63/4.64 in the combine, and Torrain was clocked in the 4.52-4.56 range prior to his injury, but at the combine ran 4.64 while still recovering from his injury.

On a seperate note, my biggest issue with Bell as a runner was he was FAR to likely to leave his feet. It is one thing to try and leap over a goal line pile (and that is a questionable tactic for most runners), but it is another story to leave your feet as often as Bell did trying to 'hurdle' people between the 20's. So, not only was he not fast, but he didn't keep his feet on the ground driving forward.

[Inkana7]

Well that's how things are. Look at how many fullbacks are on the team - real fullbacks.

One?

[hamrob]

Could this be to pave the way for CEDRIC "The Entertainer" Benson???

I liked the heart that Mike Bell displayed. The talent however was a little raw. This guy was 220lbs and instead of lowering the boom...he would raise up on his toes. Not to mention that he often times looked like his feet were set in stone. I'm sorry it didn't work out for him, becasue I think he's a good kid, however, I think it was good move by the Broncos.

[Lonestar]

Could this be to pave the way for CEDRIC "The Entertainer" Benson???

I liked the heart that Mike Bell displayed. The talent however was a little raw. This guy was 220lbs and instead of lowering the boom...he would raise up on his toes. Not to mention that he often times looked like his feet were set in stone. I'm sorry it didn't work out for him, becasue I think he's a good kid, however, I think it was good move by the Broncos.

They still have to cut a couple of more to get down to 80 when TC starts..

[lex]

Torain ran 4.6 on a bad foot. He ran 4.5 after the foot had improved (but was not completely healthy).

http://www.darrenmcfadden.org/darren-mcfadden-news06212007.php
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=67844

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On a different track. Did the other guys who ran on the same track at his pro day also run faster than at the combine? Another thing is that its not apples to apples because at the combine guys have to wait longer to do events by waiting in line since there are obviously more people. At the pro day, youre ready and you run. Perhaps, Mendenhall would have run in the 4.3s were he at Torains pro day. Michael Bennett ran in the 4.3s at the combine but ran around a 4.2 at his pro day and I dont think there was a health concern with him...its just that some surfaces are faster along with the pro-day being a more optimal environment for running. I wouldnt just assume that he ran a 4.5 because he was healthy and a 4.6 because he was injured. There are too many other variables to just fill in the blanks or extrapolate like that. All I know is that when running at the combine on the same track under the same conditions as other RBs, he ran a 4.6, which isnt great but also is at least better than Maurice Clarett.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

On a different track. Did the other guys who ran on the same track at his pro day also run faster than at the combine? Another thing is that its not apples to apples because at the combine guys have to wait longer to do events by waiting in line since there are obviously more people. At the pro day, youre ready and you run. Perhaps, Mendenhall would have run in the 4.3s were he at Torains pro day. Michael Bennett ran in the 4.3s at the combine but ran around a 4.2 at his pro day and I dont think there was a health concern with him...its just that some surfaces are faster along with the pro-day being a more optimal environment for running. I wouldnt just assume that he ran a 4.5 because he was healthy and a 4.6 because he was injured. There are too many other variables to just fill in the blanks or extrapolate like that. All I know is that when running at the combine on the same track under the same conditions as other RBs, he ran a 4.6, which isnt great but also is at least better than Maurice Clarett.


Or they could be more comfortable in environment there familiar with at there pro days....I doubt it has anything to do with the surface. Its all track anyway.

[Davii]

Or they could be more comfortable in environment there familiar with at there pro days....I doubt it has anything to do with the surface. Its all track anyway.

You'd be surprised at the difference the surface can make. Not to mention locale, such as elevation, weather, humidity, etc. etc. etc.

There is certainly the potential for a tenth depending on all conditions surrounding the workout, and we all know how huge a tenth can be.

[pnbronco]

everyone else does.. Seem like we are their farm team ..

Of course they had a better record that we did so maybe it is true.:laugh:

That's too good. :laugh: I'm starting to think I should go to Houston TC, I think I know more guys down there these days. I wish Bell the best of luck and hope things work out for him, he's a sweet kid.

[Lonestar]

You'd be surprised at the difference the surface can make. Not to mention locale, such as elevation, weather, humidity, etc. etc. etc.

There is certainly the potential for a tenth depending on all conditions surrounding the workout, and we all know how huge a tenth can be.

As your sweetheart has commented..

[topscribe]

On a different track. Did the other guys who ran on the same track at his pro day also run faster than at the combine? Another thing is that its not apples to apples because at the combine guys have to wait longer to do events by waiting in line since there are obviously more people. At the pro day, youre ready and you run. Perhaps, Mendenhall would have run in the 4.3s were he at Torains pro day. Michael Bennett ran in the 4.3s at the combine but ran around a 4.2 at his pro day and I dont think there was a health concern with him...its just that some surfaces are faster along with the pro-day being a more optimal environment for running. I wouldnt just assume that he ran a 4.5 because he was healthy and a 4.6 because he was injured. There are too many other variables to just fill in the blanks or extrapolate like that. All I know is that when running at the combine on the same track under the same conditions as other RBs, he ran a 4.6, which isnt great but also is at least better than Maurice Clarett.

I don't understand all this "perhaps" business. "Perhaps" this. "Perhaps"
that.

Your argument makes no sense at all. I stated what Torain did. Not
"perhaps." All I know is that Torain ran with a still injured toe, and the
others did not. See, it works both ways.

You're not even correct in your implications regarding Clarett. He was
overweight and out of football shape at the Combine. In college, Clarett
ran a 4.45. I documented that a couple years ago.

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[lex]

I don't understand all this "perhaps" business. "Perhaps" this. "Perhaps"
that.

Your argument makes no sense at all. I stated what Torain did. Not
"perhaps." All I know is that Torain ran with a still injured toe, and the
others did not. See, it works both ways.

You're not even correct in your implications regarding Clarett. He was
overweight and out of football shape at the Combine. In college, Clarett
ran a 4.45. I documented that a couple years ago.

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Its not that they dont make sense, its that you simply dont like them. Thats what happens when people counter you. I know you want to say its all about his foot and Im not totally ruling it out but there are other things to consider. And I even realize that in spite of someone pointing out these other things to consider, youre going to continue forward with your foot theory crusade. Carry on.

[turftoad]

Its not that they dont make sense, its that you simply dont like them. Thats what happens when people counter you. I know you want to say its all about his foot and Im not totally ruling it out but there are other things to consider. And I even realize that in spite of someone pointing out these other things to consider, youre going to continue forward with your foot theory crusade. Carry on.

AHHH...the biggest thing to consider is that he's a rookie and hasn't played an NFL down as of yet.

Niether have ANY of the 2008 draft picks or rookie FA'a.

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Its not that they dont make sense, its that you simply dont like them. Thats what happens when people counter you. I know you want to say its all about his foot and Im not totally ruling it out but there are other things to consider. And I even realize that in spite of someone pointing out these other things to consider, youre going to continue forward with your foot theory crusade. Carry on.

Nah. You just want to derail my point and get into a pissing contest.

It's amazing, what is important to you.

Now, :focus:

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[weazel]

too bad, it was a good story. If he's smart, he'll go play in the CFL. Dunno if he's durable enough to last in any league though.

[fcspikeit]

On a different track. Did the other guys who ran on the same track at his pro day also run faster than at the combine? Another thing is that its not apples to apples because at the combine guys have to wait longer to do events by waiting in line since there are obviously more people. At the pro day, youre ready and you run. Perhaps, Mendenhall would have run in the 4.3s were he at Torains pro day. Michael Bennett ran in the 4.3s at the combine but ran around a 4.2 at his pro day and I dont think there was a health concern with him...its just that some surfaces are faster along with the pro-day being a more optimal environment for running. I wouldnt just assume that he ran a 4.5 because he was healthy and a 4.6 because he was injured. There are too many other variables to just fill in the blanks or extrapolate like that. All I know is that when running at the combine on the same track under the same conditions as other RBs, he ran a 4.6, which isnt great but also is at least better than Maurice Clarett.

It sure gets old seeing the same argument get carried from thread to thread.. :shocked:

That being said, I agree a number of reasons could figure into the slower time at the combine. Anyone who has ever run knows you could run on the same exact track and post different times depending on how you felt the day of running. In a perfect world everyone running at the combine would be in perfect health/shape and post their best times... Therefore, using any 1 40 time to massure a guys speed is a bit silly. IMO, the fairest way would be to throw the fastest and slowest out, then average the rest...

[lex]

It sure gets old seeing the same argument get carried from thread to thread.. :shocked:

That being said, I agree a number of reasons could figure into the slower time at the combine. Anyone who has ever run knows you could run on the same exact track and post different times depending on how you felt the day of running. In a perfect world everyone running at the combine would be in perfect health/shape and post their best times... Therefore, using any 1 40 time to massure a guys speed is a bit silly. IMO, the fairest way would be to throw the fastest and slowest out, then average the rest...

Its not even the same discussion. I havent even touched whether it was a mistake or not...its actually more driven by other discussions on 40 times which have included top inflating how fast other players are as well. And also, Ive seen him carry on with this a number of times and have acquiesced for the most part because I know he becomes offended but after seeing him hammer away at this with such a myopia, it seemed like a good time to point out the other variables - AGAIN. Pretty much everything you said is in line with what I said, however, the 40 times at the combine are all players running in the same environment at the same time...its the most apples to apples for that reason.

[omac]

I don't know what Mike Bell did to lose the 2nd spot on the depth chart; maybe Young and Hall really outperformed him at practice. Anyway, he came in undrafted then proceeded to contribute to our running game in a big way. He also kept himself out of trouble, and he seemed to be a very hard worker.

Thanks Mike, hope you land in a really good team. :cheers: