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T.K.O.
08-24-2010, 10:09 PM
the raisers suck...the chiefs....suck a little. and the chargers are .....the chargers.
i think we could be the surprise team in the afcw.....
thoughts?

HORSEPOWER 56
08-24-2010, 10:37 PM
I think it really depends on the health of the players. If we start piling up injuries in the regular season like we have in the preseason, I don't think we have much chance. Conversely, I think we have a decent chance to compete for the division or a wildcard spot if we can STAY HEALTHY. We've all witnessed what the second and third teamers looked like first hand, and it's not pretty.

I think the Raiders will be better this year. I think the Chiefs will probably stay about the same. I think the Chargers' passing game will definitely take a step backward, but their running game may improve. Right now, the Chargers have just as many ??? as we do. I just wish we still had Dumervil if they aren't going to have McNeil.

dogfish
08-24-2010, 11:23 PM
clay's with you!



:drinking:

TXBRONC
08-24-2010, 11:29 PM
clay's with you!



:drinking:

Why are you trying to scare him? :laugh:

sneakers
08-25-2010, 12:49 AM
the raisers suck...the chiefs....suck a little. And the chargers are .....the chargers.
I think we could be the surprise team in the afcw.....
Thoughts?

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topscribe
08-25-2010, 01:00 AM
Sneaks, you have too much time on your hands . . .

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Bosco
08-25-2010, 01:34 AM
Certainly not out of the question. We one up the Chiefs and Raiders simply by default, which just leaves the Chargers. Their once extremely deep team has been shedding talent faster than they can replace it lately, and I think their window has just about closed.

claymore
08-25-2010, 06:29 AM
I think TKO took mushrooms.

Dirk
08-25-2010, 06:56 AM
I am with you! I go into the season every year with the expectations of winning the West!!

I believe that the Raiders (unfortunately) are going to be the surprise team of the AFCW. They had a great draft and Campbell is going to prove to everyone that he is better than what has been said about him.

KC will be about the same. I think that Cassel was a flash in the pan. He isn't as good as the money they gave him. But I have been wrong before and will be again so I could be wrong about him but I don't think so.

SD will start off sluggish as usual but they have had their reign and it will start to crumble this year.

The Broncos have a lot of questions still and unless they can give Orton the protection he needs the offense will be mediocre. On the defensive side of the ball, they need Ayers to really up his game and provide pressure on the QB. The OLINE will need to show how big and nasty they are and provide some running lanes to open up the passing attack. Also, the defense will need to put some stickum on their hands and arms if they continue to tackle the way they have been in preseason so far.

I think the AFCW is up for grabs this year and will come down to a 3 way shootout in the end between SD, OAK and DEN. Sorry KCL...I hope your Chiefs do well but I'm just not feeling it.

Slick
08-25-2010, 07:09 AM
I think TKO took mushrooms.

I think he's moved on to the harder drugs.

slim
08-25-2010, 07:22 AM
Denver will win this division, no question about it.

Tned
08-25-2010, 07:22 AM
the raisers suck...the chiefs....suck a little. and the chargers are .....the chargers.
i think we could be the surprise team in the afcw.....
thoughts?

I'm not ready to mortgage my house and put down $10k on the Broncos to win it all, but I am cautiously optimistic.

We've had recent good news on Clady. If he can be up to speed by week 1, then he, Kuper and Harris will go a long way to giving Orton time in the pocket. If the rookies (on the line) can limit their mistakes, and with Orton looking pretty good, the offense could be better than last year -- assuming we can get enough production out of our WR corps.

Based on what I have seen so far, I don't think it will be a really bad, blown out in many games, 5 win season. I think we will be in most games, but I could see it being a season where we lose a bunch of games that we are "in" or one where we win a lot of those.

While we don't have an easy schedule, we also don't have one that's as tough as last year. There are only a handful of really tough games.

So, my hopeful expectation is that we compete for the AFCW and at worst make a serious run at a wild card spot.

Once you get in, anything can happen.

TXBRONC
08-25-2010, 08:12 AM
I think he's moved on to the harder drugs.

He may be in a purple haze.

broncofaninfla
08-25-2010, 08:15 AM
As is the case every year, I hope we win the West BUT you can't say the Chiefs or Raiders suck when both finished stronger than Denver did last year. Throw the records out, we were the bottom dwellers in the AFC west last year with the way we finished. Our offense was putrid and defense just flat worn out.

With that being said, it's a new year with new players on each team BUT with that comes improvment from each of the teams. Honetsly, out of our competiton only the Chargers seem like they are declining. The Raiders are def on the up and Chiefs seem to be putting the pieces into place as well.

Mcd has his players running his schemes so if he knows what he is doing, and right now I am hoping he does, that SHOULD equate to a notable improvement from last season.

Zweems56
08-25-2010, 08:17 AM
I'm not ready to mortgage my house and put down $10k on the Broncos to win it all, but I am cautiously optimistic.

We've had recent good news on Clady. If he can be up to speed by week 1, then he, Kuper and Harris will go a long way to giving Orton time in the pocket. If the rookies (on the line) can limit their mistakes, and with Orton looking pretty good, the offense could be better than last year -- assuming we can get enough production out of our WR corps.

Based on what I have seen so far, I don't think it will be a really bad, blown out in many games, 5 win season. I think we will be in most games, but I could see it being a season where we lose a bunch of games that we are "in" or one where we win a lot of those.

While we don't have an easy schedule, we also don't have one that's as tough as last year. There are only a handful of really tough games.

So, my hopeful expectation is that we compete for the AFCW and at worst make a serious run at a wild card spot.

Once you get in, anything can happen.
Agreed 100%. Look at the Jets.

atwater27
08-25-2010, 08:29 AM
Certainly not out of the question. We one up the Chiefs and Raiders simply by default, which just leaves the Chargers. Their once extremely deep team has been shedding talent faster than they can replace it lately, and I think their window has just about closed.

Really? Did you not watch the last game of the season last year? Let me refresh your memory.... Charles ran over us for 250 yards and Orton threw 3 picks, 2 for TD's. Shanahan/Cutler eat your heart out. The Riaders and the Chargers split games with us last season too. We let the JAMARCUS RUSSELL beat us. JAMARCUS RUSSELL......
Now the Raiders have improved and gotten healthy. The Chiefs have gotten a year under their new organization. The Chargers will still spank us, especially since drafting the beast Ryan Matthews.

Traveler
08-25-2010, 08:46 AM
The pessimistic side of me just can't buy into this. I do think we'll finish better down the stretch.

AFCW Champs? No!

I'll gladly eat crow if they can somehow pull it off.

TXBRONC
08-25-2010, 08:49 AM
Really? Did you not watch the last game of the season last year? Let me refresh your memory.... Charles ran over us for 250 yards and Orton threw 3 picks, 2 for TD's. Shanahan/Cutler eat your heart out. The Riaders and the Chargers split games with us last season too. We let the JAMARCUS RUSSELL beat us. JAMARCUS RUSSELL......
Now the Raiders have improved and gotten healthy. The Chiefs have gotten a year under their new organization. The Chargers will still spank us, especially since drafting the beast Ryan Matthews.

Denver has made some changes so we'll just have to wait and see how it all shakes out. Being ahead of two division rivals by default doesn't say much for the Broncos. I think it's possible that Raiders and Chiefs are closer to the us than we are to the Chargers. That being said, Denver did make more than just cosmetic changes this year. We'll see soon enough if our changes make us more competitive with Chargers and put some distance between us and Raiders and Chiefs or not.

broncophan
08-25-2010, 09:05 AM
well......I was going to say if we get off to a good start, we will win the division.....but that didn't work out to well last season.......so I say we just wait and see how things pan out.
Like Tned.........I am cautiously optomistic.
If 9-7(or maybe 10-6) wins the division........I say we will win the division.
GO BRONCOS!!!......I just don't see us doing better than that........

TXBRONC
08-25-2010, 09:17 AM
well......I was going to say if we get off to a good start, we will win the division.....but that didn't work out to well last season.......so I say we just wait and see how things pan out.
Like Tned.........I am cautiously optomistic.
If 9-7(or maybe 10-6) wins the division........I say we will win the division.
GO BRONCOS!!!......I just don't see us doing better than that........

As I have been saying for the last few years I think it will depend on how effective the defense is. ATT I think 9-7 or 10-6 are realistic. I don't know if 10-6 would win the division but it would definitely put Denver in a strong position to make the playoffs.

claymore
08-25-2010, 09:22 AM
If we cant score points early our defense will wear out like it did last year. Its not impossible, but it would take a lot of lucky bounces for us to take the West.

JaxBroncoGirl
08-25-2010, 09:24 AM
If we can stay healthy, the offense truly understands the playbook and for heavens sakes our defense must come along and start rushing the passer, we will have a shot. Biggest concern right now is the defense, I know we have injuries, but we need to step it up a few notches.

Nomad
08-25-2010, 09:32 AM
It'll be a big improvement if this team can have a winning record down the stretch after the bye. This team needs to play solid in all phases of the game all season!

TXBRONC
08-25-2010, 09:38 AM
It'll be a big improvement if this team can have a winning record down the stretch after the bye. This team needs to play solid in all phases of the game all season!

Excellent point because that's where the "rubber really meets the road."

Nomad
08-25-2010, 09:46 AM
Excellent point because that's where the "rubber really meets the road."

Just realized we play 5 of the 6 divisional games are after the bye! And at least the BRONCOS get that overseas game done in the 1st half with the bye afterwards for some R & R.

LTC Pain
08-25-2010, 09:58 AM
Whether the Broncos win/doesn't win the AFC West depends entirely on the DEFENSE. If teams run over our front seven like they are speed bumps it won't happen.

Ravage!!!
08-25-2010, 11:09 AM
Our offense has to keep them off the field and actually sustain drives, make some third down conversions, and keep the ball out of the other teams hands. I believe the offense was much worse last year than the defense, and I'm still very concerned about having any "playmakers" on the outside. Who's the playmaker at WR this year?

If we are relying on the short passes to work, that means a lot more successful plays have to happen in order for a drive to get into scoring position. We don't have a guy that is great after the catch like we did last season. So those short passes, will remain short gains (most of the time). The WRs are probably my biggest concern, because those will effect everything on offense.

I have a lot more doubts about this team than I have for a long time. I'm looking forward to the season starting so I can stop all the "wondering" and just get back to cheering for the team on the field. But I don't really think we have a "good" chance of taking the West. I don't think we are better than the Chiefs nor the Raiders... and that puts us in a three-way race/tie to take MAYBE the 2nd position in the AFC west. But... anything can happen and we've seen that throughout the years. Chargers will have a bad season, and someone else is going to have to step up and take it. Could be the Broncos.

Northman
08-25-2010, 11:25 AM
Nah. We still arent ready yet. Last year was a testament to that when we yet again split with the faid and Chiefs. Both those teams are improving and the Chargers despite having a closing window are still the team to beat in the AFCW. Throw in our injury problems and again a turnover in player personnel and coaching staff and there's just too much to overcome right now. Next year perhaps but right now we arent ready.

weazel
08-25-2010, 11:26 AM
I think we got just as good a chance at a top 10 pick

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 11:54 AM
Sorry, I'm not with you. I'll expect 8-8 and be pleasantly surprised at more. The Raiders don't suck. The Chargers are indeed the Chargers, meaning they're by far the most talented team in the division. The Chiefs more than kinda suck.

KCL
08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
Sorry, I'm not with you. I'll expect 8-8 and be pleasantly surprised at more. The Raiders don't suck. The Chargers are indeed the Chargers, meaning they're by far the most talented team in the division. The Chiefs more than kinda suck.

We'll see how bad they suck this year..if they can pick up where they left off in that last game in Denver,I'll be happy...will the Chiefs win the west? Highly doubtful..hopefully Charles has a good season....remember he wasn't the starter til half way through the season and he was still able to rack up over 1000 yards rushing behind that pathetic line.

We also have Jones who will probably be sharing carries with Charles and the Chiefs drafted McCluster who I hope can be a factor along with Bowe and Chambers.

Haley will not be calling the plays this year...thank God and hopefully having Crennel and Weis as our DC and OC will make a difference.

The Berry signing sounds good and hopefully our D will be improved.

That last game in Denver was awesome...where the hell had "that" team been all year....Cassell looked good that game with those 2 passes in KC's first drive to start the game.

I am so ready for some football.

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 12:54 PM
We'll see how bad they suck this year..if they can pick up where they left off in that last game in Denver,I'll be happy...will the Chiefs win the west? Highly doubtful..hopefully Charles has a good season....remember he wasn't the starter til half way through the season and he was still able to rack up over 1000 yards rushing behind that pathetic line.

We also have Jones who will probably be sharing carries with Charles and the Chiefs drafted McCluster who I hope can be a factor along with Bowe and Chambers.

Haley will not be calling the plays this year...thank God and hopefully having Crennel and Weis as our DC and OC will make a difference.

The Berry signing sounds good and hopefully our D will be improved.

That last game in Denver was awesome...where the hell had "that" team been all year....Cassell looked good that game with those 2 passes in KC's first drive to start the game.

I am so ready for some football.

Well that was during our monumental collapse, anyone could have beaten us then. :tsk:

Charles should have a great year though. And Bowe is very talented, I have no idea where he was last year. Berry will be a great player, but the D has a long way to go. So does the OL.

Mike
08-25-2010, 01:01 PM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

KCL
08-25-2010, 01:02 PM
Well that was during our monumental collapse, anyone could have beaten us then. :tsk:

Charles should have a great year though. And Bowe is very talented, I have no idea where he was last year. Berry will be a great player, but the D has a long way to go. So does the OL.

We'll see...I have no idea how they'll do and neither does anyone else...;)

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 01:04 PM
We'll see...I have no idea how they'll do and neither does anyone else...;)

That could be said about every team. But my guess is 5 wins for KC. :elefant:

KCL
08-25-2010, 01:08 PM
That could be said about every team. But my guess is 5 wins for KC. :elefant:

Exactly and I don't make predictions.

Ravage!!!
08-25-2010, 01:09 PM
We'll see how bad they suck this year..if they can pick up where they left off in that last game in Denver,I'll be happy...will the Chiefs win the west? Highly doubtful..hopefully Charles has a good season....remember he wasn't the starter til half way through the season and he was still able to rack up over 1000 yards rushing behind that pathetic line.

We also have Jones who will probably be sharing carries with Charles and the Chiefs drafted McCluster who I hope can be a factor along with Bowe and Chambers.

Haley will not be calling the plays this year...thank God and hopefully having Crennel and Weis as our DC and OC will make a difference.

The Berry signing sounds good and hopefully our D will be improved.

That last game in Denver was awesome...where the hell had "that" team been all year....Cassell looked good that game with those 2 passes in KC's first drive to start the game.

I am so ready for some football.


Your offense is a LOT more dynamic than ours is. Your RB actually rushed for 1000 yrds, and we were supposed to have one of the best OLs in football.

I'm still not sold on Cassel, but at least he'll be running a system that he's much more familiar with behind Weis.

McCluster has been getting RAVE reviews while our rookie WR can't even get on the field.

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 01:11 PM
Your offense is a LOT more dynamic than ours is. Your RB actually rushed for 1000 yrds, and we were supposed to have one of the best OLs in football.

I'm still not sold on Cassel, but at least he'll be running a system that he's much more familiar with behind Weis.

McCluster has been getting RAVE reviews while our rookie WR can't even get on the field.

Cassell's a fraud and McCluster is a gimmicky H-Back.

KCL
08-25-2010, 01:15 PM
Your offense is a LOT more dynamic than ours is. Your RB actually rushed for 1000 yrds, and we were supposed to have one of the best OLs in football.

I'm still not sold on Cassel, but at least he'll be running a system that he's much more familiar with behind Weis.

McCluster has been getting RAVE reviews while our rookie WR can't even get on the field.

And that was in the 8 games he started plus the few carries he got as a backup...he is such a better back than Johnson...who IMO is a lazy ass but Charles is a lot quicker and was able to find the right path as Johnson never tried that hard.

KCL
08-25-2010, 01:16 PM
Cassell's a fraud and McCluster is a gimmicky H-Back.

If Cassell has some pass protection he'll do fine..and we've yet to see what
McCluster can do as a pro.

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 01:31 PM
If Cassell has some pass protection he'll do fine..and we've yet to see what
McCluster can do as a pro.

I disagree on Cassell. I think he's just an awful QB that was made out to look good by a QB-friendly system with star wideouts in NE.

Northman
08-25-2010, 01:35 PM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

Same here.

KCL
08-25-2010, 01:51 PM
I disagree on Cassell. I think he's just an awful QB that was made out to look good by a QB-friendly system with star wideouts in NE.

Like Rav said..he'll be with Weis this year so maybe he will have a better season w/o Haley calling the plays..We will see.

dogfish
08-25-2010, 02:02 PM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

they don't list wins and losses until after you've played the games. . . :listen:

geez, mike, i wouldn't think you'd still need me around to explain the simple stuff. . .

:D



oh, and kansas city still sucks! :eviltongue:



:lol:

KCL
08-25-2010, 02:06 PM
they don't list wins and losses until after you've played the games. . . :listen:

geez, mike, i wouldn't think you'd still need me around to explain the simple stuff. . .

:D



oh, and kansas city still sucks! :eviltongue:



:lol:

Kiss my ass.......:tsk:

:lol:

Slick
08-25-2010, 03:23 PM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

Me too Mike. I said in another thread we'd be lucky to win 5. I'd love to be wrong.



I agree with Atwater's point about Matthews. That kid along with Gates, is going to tear us to shreds. The middle of our defense is old and soft IMO. DJ's decent, but he makes the routine plays, never a game changing play. The rest of the LB'ers, um yeah. I seriously doubt we split with San Diego this year.


...and let's not even try to compare ourselves to the Jets. Their defense is all world compared to ours, and their running game is miles ahead of us as well. I'm rambling here a little, but that's the kind of team I wanted. Great defense and a grind it out running game with play action passing. I really don't care for the spread offense.

Ain't happening this year guys. Luckily I'm a patent man, so if we do stink it up, I've prepared myself. Hopefully we develop some of this supposed young talent, if they can play and not spend the majority of the season in the tub.

spikerman
08-25-2010, 05:32 PM
I think Oakland and KC improved while SD and Denver took a step back. Unfortunately, SD could afford to take a step back and still win the AFCW. I think Denver and KC will be battling to see who can stay out of the cellar.

topscribe
08-25-2010, 06:17 PM
I believe the Broncos have taken a step forward. Consider (admittedly, this is after most of
the injured players return to the active roster):

* They have improved at QB, in health, experience, and depth.
* They have improved in the OL in talent and size.
* They have improved at WR in depth and have given signs they still have some good WRs there.
* They have improved at RB in experience and depth.
* They have improved at DL.
* They have improved at LB in experience, overall balance, and depth (although the loss of
... Dumervil was a blow).

So Oakland and KC have improved, while SD has taken a step back. 10-6 or even 9-7 may
take the Division this year. I believe Denver has a chance.

For further explanation why I think Denver may win it, see my sig . . . :coffee:

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turftoad
08-25-2010, 06:27 PM
I think Oakland and KC improved while SD and Denver took a step back. Unfortunately, SD could afford to take a step back and still win the AFCW. I think Denver and KC will be battling to see who can stay out of the cellar.

I agree with this ^

Northman
08-25-2010, 06:30 PM
I agree with this ^

Yea, i just hope McD has liquid luck in his man purse.

Bosco
08-25-2010, 07:43 PM
Really? Did you not watch the last game of the season last year? Let me refresh your memory.... Charles ran over us for 250 yards and Orton threw 3 picks, 2 for TD's. Shanahan/Cutler eat your heart out. The Riaders and the uis split games with us last season too. We let the JAMARCUS RUSSELL beat us. JAMARCUS RUSSELL......
Now the Raiders have improved and gotten healthy. The Chiefs have gotten a year under their new organization. The Chargers will still spank us, especially since drafting the beast Ryan Matthews.

Yeah I saw that game. I also saw a defense that was exposed from the top down, demoralized and playing like crap. That's why of the three defensive linemen from that game, one of them (Peterson) is out of the league, one is relegated to rotational backup duty (Fields) and the only one to retain his starting job (McBean) is going to be rotating with a very solid veteran (Green). We also replaced Andra Davis with the younger, more durable and more imposing Mario Haggan. All that remains to be seen now is if Martindale can prevent that signature Mike Nolan late season slide.

Charles is not particularly worrisome to me. He threw out some big games against some pretty crappy defenses and I don't think anyone expects him to do that over a whole season, including the Chiefs apparently since they went out and got Jones and drafted McCluster. While I think the Chiefs are headed in the right direction and will be a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the ground game, they're passing offensive is completely unimpressive on paper and they're defense still has alot of holes in it.

The Raiders are the Raiders, and incompetence is the rule in Oakland. Even when they have talented teams, they under-perform. The thought of facing Jason Campbell twice a year doesn't exactly strike fear into my heart either.

As for the Chargers, they're still tough, but not the world beaters you people with the defeatist attitude like to think they are. Rivers is a legit franchise quarterback that you have to respect, but outside of Gates he has no one to throw to since it appears they will be moving Vincent Jackson. Matthews is an elite prospect but we went toe to toe with Tomlinson for nearly a decade and more often than not kept him in check, so again, I'm not exactly losing sleep over him.

Bottom line, barring a miracle type season by Oakland or Kansas City, it'll be us and San Diego battling for the AFC West crown.


Haley will not be calling the plays this year...thank God and hopefully having Crennel and Weis as our DC and OC will make a difference. From what I've seen of Haley, his offense is a variation of the Air Coryell system. This is going to be real interesting to watch how Charlie Weis calls that offense when he's spent his whole career calling an Erhardt-Perkins offense. This has the potential to really crash and burn.

Unless of course Haley is going to let Weis install his offense instead. Then not only are you going to go through another system change, you'll end up dealing with the fact that Josh McDaniels knows that offense inside and out.


Cassell's a fraud and McCluster is a gimmicky H-Back. Cassel is a decent quarterback, but he's not the Josh McDaniels coached up franchise quarterback the Chiefs thought they were getting when they spent all that money on him.

As far as McCluster, what in God's name was going through your mind when you decided that a 5'8 170lb running back would somehow translate into an H-Back?

Seriously.

Mike
08-25-2010, 07:50 PM
they don't list wins and losses until after you've played the games. . . :listen:

geez, mike, i wouldn't think you'd still need me around to explain the simple stuff. . .

:D



oh, and kansas city still sucks! :eviltongue:



:lol:

I like the direction they are going, but all these injuries have me pessimistic. And I think they have a rough schedule. I hope they prove me wrong. :salute:

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08-25-2010, 07:57 PM
I like the direction they are going, but all these injuries have me pessimistic. And I think they have a rough schedule. I hope they prove me wrong. :salute:

You know what? There is so much parity in the league anymore, it doesn't
matter what kind of schedule they devise: It's going to be a rough schedule.
Every team in the league has a rough schedule anymore . . .

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Bosco
08-25-2010, 08:02 PM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

I'm not. We have a pretty weak schedule in fact.

I figure we'll split with SD again and sweep the Chiefs and Raiders. That there is five wins. Jacksonville, Seattle, St. Louis, San Fransisco and Arizona are all games that are very winnable. Between Indy, Tennessee, New York, Baltimore and Houston, I think we walk away with two, maybe three wins.

We could easily end up anywhere between 10-6 and 13-3 depending on how things go.

Mike
08-25-2010, 08:02 PM
You know what? There is so much parity in the league anymore, it doesn't
matter what kind of schedule they devise: It's going to be a rough schedule.
Every team in the league has a rough schedule anymore . . .

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:laugh: Go look at NO's.

Mike
08-25-2010, 08:07 PM
I'm not. We have a pretty weak schedule in fact.

I figure we'll split with SD again and sweep the Chiefs and Raiders. That there is five wins. Jacksonville, Seattle, St. Louis, San Fransisco and Arizona are all games that are very winnable. Between Indy, Tennessee, Baltimore and Houston, I think we walk away with two, maybe three wins.

We could easily end up anywhere between 10-6 and 13-3 depending on how things go.

No way we sweep the Chiefs and Raiders and I really doubt Denver splits with SD. They got better and they kicked our butts last season. Denver never plays well in FL and Jax seems to usually give us fits. Seattle, StL, and maybe AZ are games that are winnable. SF is a toss-ups at best. Indy, Tenn, Balt, and Houston eat our lunch. I hope you are right, but I don't think Denver sniffs anything close to 10 wins.

Overtime
08-25-2010, 08:22 PM
faiders O-line won't be able to protect campbell, so they'll suck ass again.

with the amount of injuries we've had? i doubt we'll be any type of contender (as optimistic as I am)

the Chiefs look poised to be vastly improved this season, i think they are pretty much the only team in the division that could really give the Chargers a run for their money.

Chargers will probably be slow out of the gate again this year, but they seem to pick up steam when it counts...they just tend to need a little football grade viagra at about the mid point in the season.

T.K.O.
08-25-2010, 08:30 PM
faiders O-line won't be able to protect campbell, so they'll suck ass again.

with the amount of injuries we've had? i doubt we'll be any type of contender (as optimistic as I am)

the Chiefs look poised to be vastly improved this season, i think they are pretty much the only team in the division that could really give the Chargers a run for their money.

Chargers will probably be slow out of the gate again this year, but they seem to pick up steam when it counts...they just tend to need a little football grade viagra at about the mid point in the season.

where can we get a batch of that for the broncos ? they seem to go limp after the bye week:D

I Eat Staples
08-25-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm not. We have a pretty weak schedule in fact.

I figure we'll split with SD again and sweep the Chiefs and Raiders. That there is five wins. Jacksonville, Seattle, St. Louis, San Fransisco and Arizona are all games that are very winnable. Between Indy, Tennessee, New York, Baltimore and Houston, I think we walk away with two, maybe three wins.

We could easily end up anywhere between 10-6 and 13-3 depending on how things go.

You're basically looking at the best possible scenario and using it as a prediction or expectation. That's more like a wish list.

We never sweep Oakland or KC and I highly doubt we will this year. We find ways to beat good teams and lose to bad ones. We'll split with every team in our division, in my opinion.

I'm very nervous about Jacksonville. We play terrible in the September heat. That could go either way. We should beat Seattle and St. Louis. San Francisco, Arizona, and Tennessee could all go either way. I think we'll lose 3 of Indy, NY, Baltimore, and Houston. Maybe all 4.

Looking at a lot of those games as toss ups, I see 8-8. It could be slightly better or slightly worse. There's always best and worse case scenarios, but 8-8 is a solid bet.

There's no way in hell we win 13 games.

KCL
08-25-2010, 10:11 PM
Charles is not particularly worrisome to me. He threw out some big games against some pretty crappy defenses and I don't think anyone expects him to do that over a whole season, including the Chiefs apparently since they went out and got Jones and drafted McCluster. While I think the Chiefs are headed in the right direction and will be a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the ground game, they're passing offensive is completely unimpressive on paper and they're defense still has alot of holes in it.

I don't take anything away from Charles..he had a great season...with no OL to speak of....as far as getting Jones...it never hurts to have a couple of good backs.



Unless of course Haley is going to let Weis install his offense instead. Then not only are you going to go through another system change, you'll end up dealing with the fact that Josh McDaniels knows that offense inside and out.

I guess by the same token Matt Cassell knows McDaniels inside and out.
wow...lucky for us we only play Denver twice a year...going by your logic...Chiefs don't stand a chance of beating Denver this season.


Cassel is a decent quarterback, but he's not the Josh McDaniels coached up franchise quarterback the Chiefs thought they were getting when they spent all that money on him.

Is that why McDaniels was set to trade Cutler away and sign Cassell? Yes I know it was all rumours.....:blah:

atwater27
08-25-2010, 10:32 PM
Charles is not particularly worrisome to me. He threw out some big games against some pretty crappy defenses and I don't think anyone expects him to do that over a whole season, including the Chiefs apparently since they went out and got Jones and drafted McCluster. Ummmm Charles is their feature back, don't worry. They played the whole preseason depth chart motivation thing with Bowe last year too. Jones is simply a backup. McCluster is a freaking wideout. While I think the Chiefs are headed in the right direction and will be a force to be reckoned with when it comes to the ground game, they're passing offensive is completely unimpressive on paper and they're defense still has alot of holes in it.

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:listen:

Bosco
08-25-2010, 11:15 PM
No way we sweep the Chiefs and Raiders and I really doubt Denver splits with SD. They got better and they kicked our butts last season. Oakland and Kansas City got their wins against us in the middle of a huge slide. When we weren't in that slide, we handled them both with ease and even Oakland's win was by 1 point with a couple real lucky bounces going their way. Avoid the slide this year and there isn't any reason we shouldn't sweep them.

I also don't see any reason why we don't split with the Chargers. As I said earlier, they're losing talent faster than they can replace it. Their passing game is going to be much weaker than in previous years, their once great defensive line hasn't recovered from losing Williams and Olshansky and their backfield is questionable minus Weddle and Jammer.

They're a tough team until proven otherwise, but the chinks in the armor are starting to show more and more.

Edit: I take that back, we were already in the slide when we beat Kansas City the first time


Denver never plays well in FL and Jax seems to usually give us fits. Superstitions. Our record in late summer Florida heat is as varied as our record against the Jags, and this year they're a very weak team.


SF is a toss-ups at best. Indy, Tenn, Balt, and Houston eat our lunch. I hope you are right, but I don't think Denver sniffs anything close to 10 wins. The 49ers are not that impressive. Their defense is good, but the offense is pretty damn average and God only knows if last season was really the turning point for Alex Smith.

Indy is real tough, but they also have a big penchant for starting the season slow. If we come out firing on all cylinders, I could see us having a chance to hand them an early mark in the loss column, especially in Denver on grass. It's a long shot, but certainly not impossible.

Titans? Their defense was one of the worst in the league and the offense was only average despite a 2000 yard rusher. Also you got Vince Young coming into the season with the pressure of being a starter into of providing a spark off the bench. He's my pick for player most likely to come tumbling back to Earth.

Baltimore is talented, but they were top 10 in offense and top 5 in defense last year but only finished 9-7. You can draw your own conclusions from that I guess, but to me they've always been a team that played less than the sum of it's parts.

I don't see anything entirely impressive about Houston either. While they have talent on offense they just lost their offensive coordinator and they're replacing him with a guy who is calling the plays for the first time in his coaching career. Who knows how that will work out for them and their defense probably isn't going to be strong enough to carry them.

All of these teams have chinks in their armor, and outside of Indy and maybe Baltimore, the chinks are significant. Two wins is certainly possibly and a third isn't out of the question.

Dzone
08-25-2010, 11:21 PM
Its a reasonable enough question. How many of you would be interested in the season if you knew denver was going to go 1-15? We gotta have at least some hope of having a good team, I mean, or whats the point? I think there is a good chance of this team becoming pretty good...we might have to do it with running backs named HALL & BALL! hahaha

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08-25-2010, 11:27 PM
Its a reasonable enough question. How many of you would be interested in the season if you knew denver was going to go 1-15? We gotta have at least some hope of having a good team, I mean, or whats the point?

I guess I just can't identify with that. I went 14 long years with the Broncos
before I enjoyed a winning season with them. When that siege started, I was
a snot-nosed, 15-year-old junior high school kid with a Rock Mountain News
paper route. When it finally happened, I was a married father and homeowner,
who had been in and out of college, and now owned an insurance business.

Sorry, but 16-0 or 0-16, they are my Denver Broncos . . .

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Dzone
08-25-2010, 11:34 PM
^ I would agree with that ...but I think it is also painful to watch your favorite team get massacred every weekend..0-16? Hmmm fun if youre a masochist

Ravage!!!
08-25-2010, 11:39 PM
^ I would agree with that ...but I think it is also painful to watch your favorite team get massacred every weekend..0-16? Hmmm fun if youre a masochist

Its not fun. No way its fun. You would end up shutting the game off at half-time a lot of the season. But then, you would root for them the next season. But that kind of year is not fun, in the least.

Bosco
08-26-2010, 04:13 AM
Saw this making the rounds on a Chiefs forum.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/25/chiefs-close-to-benching-top-five-pick/

Blowing these premium draft picks year after year is what keep teams in the perpetual cellar.

broncophan
08-26-2010, 05:59 AM
I am struggling to find 6 W's on the schedule to be honest.

I felt that way before last season....and I thought the schedule was ALOT tougher last season......not to mention a first year head coach.
I am a little more optomistic going into this season.......9 or 10 wins.....

Elevation inc
08-26-2010, 06:40 AM
10-6 with a wildcard game against the Jets....Mark it down you heard it here first


We beat Jax/Seattle/Arz/ST louis/KC x 2/ Oakland x 1/Jets/SF/SD at home to close the season as doom returns and owns