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dekers
07-17-2008, 10:36 AM
How about trading foxworth.? him and Paymah both become free agents after this season. With baily and bly as are starters and us just drafting Jack Williams . There is no-way we re-sign them both. So why not trade one away and get something out of them now instead of nothing after the year. I think Paymah is the better of the two. What do you guys think ?

Kaylore
07-17-2008, 10:41 AM
Well Paymah just got nailed for DUI, so maybe we should sit tight on that.

BroncoWave
07-17-2008, 10:43 AM
I've been wanting us to trade Foxworth since circa 2005 AFCCG.

BeefStew25
07-17-2008, 10:44 AM
I get them all mixed up. Which one is the white guy?

underrated29
07-17-2008, 10:50 AM
No one wants foxworth. Thats the problem. He is worth a 3rd pick because of his character and ability, but no one is going to pay it. Shanny wont dump him for less than a third either.

So we sit tight, hope some upcomming team loses their cbs to injury (was,atl,nyj,tpa,sfo) and then rape them in a trade like we always do.

Hard part is waiting, because its unlikely to happen.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Uhh yes there is a way we resign the both of them because Bailey and Bly both are getting up in age. Maybe we dont resign Foxworth if he wants does not want to sit another year. However im hearing theres a chance Foxworth actually starts this year. I highly doubt the Broncos want to draft rookies and have them step in right away when Bly and Bailey are done. Would be smarter to have Paymah, Foxworth, Jack Williams and then draft a talented rookie if your not comfortable with them. But Bly and Bailey dont have much longer. Im guessing about 2 more years of playing at an high level.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 10:54 AM
I truly hope we keep him because Foxworth is a great guy and great player. Thats why theres whispers of Bly moving to the Nickle this year which would be great. However i think Paymah might be better because if you noticed last year on 3rd downs or obvious passing downs Bly was in the slot and Paymah was the number 2....That tells me that the team seemed to trust Paymah alot more last year.

underrated29
07-17-2008, 10:59 AM
I truly hope we keep him because Foxworth is a great guy and great player. Thats why theres whispers of Bly moving to the Nickle this year which would be great. However i think Paymah might be better because if you noticed last year on 3rd downs or obvious passing downs Bly was in the slot and Paymah was the number 2....That tells me that the team seemed to trust Paymah alot more last year.

i DID NOt notice that. I will have to check that out. I dont understand all the bly hating going on. But if what you said is true, then the only thing i can imagine as to why would be:

1. paymah is good at jamming the guy at the LOS and bump and run.
2. Bly is a ball hawk, having him work on #3 might allow him to jump the route or pick the ball from the timing disruption of payms jam,

3. Bates system and his system sucked.

Kaylore
07-17-2008, 11:01 AM
I get them all mixed up. Which one is the white guy?

They're both black.

Davii
07-17-2008, 11:09 AM
I get them all mixed up. Which one is the white guy?

John Cutler, or Jay Lynch, your choice.

Ziggy
07-17-2008, 11:11 AM
I truly hope we keep him because Foxworth is a great guy and great player. Thats why theres whispers of Bly moving to the Nickle this year which would be great. However i think Paymah might be better because if you noticed last year on 3rd downs or obvious passing downs Bly was in the slot and Paymah was the number 2....That tells me that the team seemed to trust Paymah alot more last year.


Do you have a link for that, or is it just a guess? Where are you hearing these whispers from? Bly is getting too much money to play the nickel. If his performance is slipping that much, Shanny will either restructure his contract, trade him, or cut him. He's just not going to pay that kind of money for a nickel corner.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 11:58 AM
Do you have a link for that, or is it just a guess? Where are you hearing these whispers from? Bly is getting too much money to play the nickel. If his performance is slipping that much, Shanny will either restructure his contract, trade him, or cut him. He's just not going to pay that kind of money for a nickel corner.

no i really dont have any links, Im just going off seeing Paymah play the 2 last year on obvious passing downs along with a insider i know in Denver who has no reason to lie. But Bly is making about 4 million a year? Thats not bad being that so many teams use 3 WR sets now. So having a great nickle back is not a bad thing. Has nothing to do with the amount of money hes making.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 12:01 PM
i DID NOt notice that. I will have to check that out. I dont understand all the bly hating going on. But if what you said is true, then the only thing i can imagine as to why would be:

1. paymah is good at jamming the guy at the LOS and bump and run.
2. Bly is a ball hawk, having him work on #3 might allow him to jump the route or pick the ball from the timing disruption of payms jam,

3. Bates system and his system sucked.

Yes i kind of noticed it watching games last year but didnt think nothing of it untill i started watching NFL replays and realized it was truly going on. Then i did a little homework and noticed Paymah didnt give up a single touchdown last year. He is very physical bump and run corner with good hips. I think him and Jack Williams is the future. both physical bump and run guys with great athleticism. I dont know what will happen with Foxworth but i want to keep him too. Seems like the team was really trying to trade him this off season...

silkamilkamonico
07-17-2008, 12:03 PM
i DID NOt notice that. I will have to check that out. I dont understand all the bly hating going on. But if what you said is true, then the only thing i can imagine as to why would be:

1. paymah is good at jamming the guy at the LOS and bump and run.
2. Bly is a ball hawk, having him work on #3 might allow him to jump the route or pick the ball from the timing disruption of payms jam,


Bly makes far too much money to work on the #3's. If that's the case, the just cut him now.

With Foxworth, we lose him to free agency and he has a good year, we would likely get a compensatory pick in the draft the following year. Same with Paymah.

shank
07-17-2008, 12:05 PM
i like foxy and still maintain that, much like DJ, his development is being retarded by position moves.

he played very well as a rookie, and only started garnering complaints after they started the half safety/half cb experiment.

i like paymah a lot as well, if we can somehow retain both, i would be very happy.

weazel
07-17-2008, 12:14 PM
I say sign them both and trade Bly. Cheaper, younger, better...

lex
07-17-2008, 12:36 PM
i DID NOt notice that. I will have to check that out. I dont understand all the bly hating going on. But if what you said is true, then the only thing i can imagine as to why would be:

1. paymah is good at jamming the guy at the LOS and bump and run.
2. Bly is a ball hawk, having him work on #3 might allow him to jump the route or pick the ball from the timing disruption of payms jam,

3. Bates system and his system sucked.

Its deserved. His "Im a playmaker, I make plays" mantra hurts us more than it helps us...the fact that he isnt at least somewhat judicious in terms of when he takes chances, exposes us to enormous risk. He's kind of the equivalent of what Sammy Sosa was to situational hitting. If there was a guy on second in a close game with two outs and Sosa at the plate, Sosa would routinely strike our swinging from his heals trying to hit a HR. And then on top of that, the guy is always commenting to the media and frequently deflects blame.

Ziggy
07-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Its deserved. His "Im a playmaker, I make plays" mantra hurts us more than it helps us...the fact that he isnt at least somewhat judicious in terms of when he takes chances, exposes us to enormous risk. He's kind of the equivalent of what Sammy Sosa was to situational hitting. If there was a guy on second in a close game with two outs and Sosa at the plate, Sosa would routinely strike our swinging from his heals trying to hit a HR. And then on top of that, the guy is always commenting to the media and frequently deflects blame.

Yes, and it had nothing to do with the fact that our corners had to cover thier man far longer than any CB should have. I'll wait until we have at least an average pass rush before I pass judgement on Bly.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 12:43 PM
Its deserved. His "Im a playmaker, I make plays" mantra hurts us more than it helps us...the fact that he isnt at least somewhat judicious in terms of when he takes chances, exposes us to enormous risk. He's kind of the equivalent of what Sammy Sosa was to situational hitting. If there was a guy on second in a close game with two outs and Sosa at the plate, Sosa would routinely strike our swinging from his heals trying to hit a HR. And then on top of that, the guy is always commenting to the media and frequently deflects blame.

I like Bly, Hes just the type of CB you need a good ball hawking Safety behind... John Lynch covering anybodies ass deep is failure from start...

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 12:44 PM
Yes, and it had nothing to do with the fact that our corners had to cover thier man far longer than any CB should have. I'll wait until we have at least an average pass rush before I pass judgement on Bly.

Ill toast to that!:beer: Because we even saw Champ get roasted more than usual last year... We definitly need more pass rushing on the outside and a bigger push up the middle also before i bash Bly. I just think hes better in the nickle.

lex
07-17-2008, 12:48 PM
Yes, and it had nothing to do with the fact that our corners had to cover thier man far longer than any CB should have. I'll wait until we have at least an average pass rush before I pass judgement on Bly.

Thats just it. When your DLine doesnt get pressure, you can less afford to take the kind of chances Bly does because youre more susceptible to getting burnt deep. The play vs Oakland in Denver where Porter burnt him and then the MNF game vs Green Bay were just two examples of Bly getting burnt on the short fake knowing the offense has every reason in the world to take their chances deep. The lack of a pass rush didnt really affect how he played and thats one reason its so poor.

underrated29
07-17-2008, 01:01 PM
Lex if i recall those were the only two plays where bly really did get burnt. Other then that he was pretty lock down and made several ints for us.

You also have to consider besides the pass rush (lack thereof) that we had bates not good system and our corners (this is most important to their down years) could not concentrate on what corners do best. Covering thier guys, they had to worry about tackling the runner because they were the last defense as the runningbacks were already 10 yards down field past the line and linebackers. If the corners didnt stop him it was a td.

So they didnt just cover thier guys for a long time they had to worry about stopping the runner as soon as possible. If you will notice we got burnt by runs the most and the longst on the left side or blys side. When watching him play you can see he first has to watch the rb then the defender.

Bly is a great cb, he does take chances and Casino said it right, with a good saftey behind bly just in case and champ locking down the other side there should be no complaints at all........I think slows new scheme will show how good Bly reall is.

Slick
07-17-2008, 01:15 PM
No one wants foxworth. Thats the problem. He is worth a 3rd pick because of his character and ability, but no one is going to pay it. Shanny wont dump him for less than a third either.

So we sit tight, hope some upcomming team loses their cbs to injury (was,atl,nyj,tpa,sfo) and then rape them in a trade like we always do.

Hard part is waiting, because its unlikely to happen.

Agreed. I'm pretty sure Foxworth was shopped all over the league before and during the draft.

Shanahan would deal him if a fair offer presented itself IMO. Problem is, his idea of a fair deal and the rest of the league are two different things.

BroncoWave
07-17-2008, 01:26 PM
I get them all mixed up. Which one is the white guy?

I thought they only let white guys play QB and Kicker now. :confused:

shank
07-17-2008, 01:26 PM
I thought they only let white guys play QB and Kicker now. :confused:

nope. hockey.

turftoad
07-17-2008, 01:27 PM
Uhh yes there is a way we resign the both of them because Bailey and Bly both are getting up in age. Maybe we dont resign Foxworth if he wants does not want to sit another year. However im hearing theres a chance Foxworth actually starts this year. I highly doubt the Broncos want to draft rookies and have them step in right away when Bly and Bailey are done. Would be smarter to have Paymah, Foxworth, Jack Williams and then draft a talented rookie if your not comfortable with them. But Bly and Bailey dont have much longer. Im guessing about 2 more years of playing at an high level.

Both Bly and Bailey still have some very productive years ahead of them. Even more productive if they can be helped with a pass rush.

That said, I doubt if Foxy and Paymah are both on the team next year. We won't keep both until Bly and Bailey are both gone.
If we did, could you imagine Foxy and Paymah as our starters. That would scare the crap out of me.
Foxworth isn't great by any means. He's a nickle at best and is not a good saftey. Paymah is comming on, we'll see if he's the hier to Bailey or Bly this year. Foxworth is not.

IMO, Bly and Baileys replacments are not even on the roster yet.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 01:39 PM
So your saying we should draft a young CB high sometime within the next 2 years? Im not saying Bly nor Bailey is nowhere near done. I thnk they both have atleast 2-3 great years left before they hit the decline button. I just would rather have 2 young corners who learned from the best rather than draft a young one who may take another 2-3 years to develope. And i think moving Fox to Safety was stupid from day1. Just like moving DJ to MLB and SSLB was stupid. Fox showed his rookie year he could play the game and play it well.

Slick
07-17-2008, 02:00 PM
So your saying we should draft a young CB high sometime within the next 2 years? Im not saying Bly nor Bailey is nowhere near done. I thnk they both have atleast 2-3 great years left before they hit the decline button. I just would rather have 2 young corners who learned from the best rather than draft a young one who may take another 2-3 years to develope. And i think moving Fox to Safety was stupid from day1. Just like moving DJ to MLB and SSLB was stupid. Fox showed his rookie year he could play the game and play it well.

I don't think anyone here would argue that Foxworth at safety is a horrible idea, and I agree with what you said about DJ too. I'll give both of them credit for not bitching and whining to the media. They were professionals... did what they were asked to do.

I think we draft a safety before we draft another corner.

lex
07-17-2008, 04:22 PM
Lex if i recall those were the only two plays where bly really did get burnt. Other then that he was pretty lock down and made several ints for us.

No, he had other bad plays too.


You also have to consider besides the pass rush (lack thereof) that we had bates not good system and our corners (this is most important to their down years) could not concentrate on what corners do best. Covering thier guys, they had to worry about tackling the runner because they were the last defense as the runningbacks were already 10 yards down field past the line and linebackers. If the corners didnt stop him it was a td.

That might apply to Champ but Bly is a gloryhound who is only worried about interceptions.


So they didnt just cover thier guys for a long time they had to worry about stopping the runner as soon as possible. If you will notice we got burnt by runs the most and the longst on the left side or blys side. When watching him play you can see he first has to watch the rb then the defender.

See above.


Bly is a great cb, he does take chances and Casino said it right, with a good saftey behind bly just in case and champ locking down the other side there should be no complaints at all........I think slows new scheme will show how good Bly reall is.

He is not a great CB. Any CB looks a lot better when theres a pass rush. He showed nothing (other than how selfish he is) with a minimal pass rush.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Lex what the hell are you talking about saying Bly is selfish? Bly plays as hard as he possibly can. hes just a gambler. That does not make him selfish. Your like the most negative Bronco fan i ever heard of in my life. First your bitter because we drafted a LT and not one of your personal favorites. Then Bly is selfish because he wants to get INTS that helps the Broncos win?

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 04:36 PM
Who said something when Bailey got what 10 INTS the other year and said he wanted to get way more than that the following year? Is Champ selfish for wanting more INT also?

silkamilkamonico
07-17-2008, 04:37 PM
More negatives against Dre Bly?

The guy not only get's beat like Deltha O'Neal did in Denver, but he makes a guaranteed $18 million in bonus money in which $16 million is guaranteed.

Someone wants to argue a CB can't be effective without a good pass rush, fine. Don't pay the guy $16 million in guaranteed money then. Use it on a pass rusher.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 04:40 PM
More negatives against Dre Bly?

The guy not only get's beat like Deltha O'Neal did in Denver, but he makes a guaranteed $18 million in bonus money in which $16 million is guaranteed.

Someone wants to argue a CB can't be effective without a good pass rush, fine. Don't pay the guy $16 million in guaranteed money then. Use it on a pass rusher.

Oh yeah lets go spending big time money on other teams washed up DL again shall we? Get a grip we got a good corner and drafted on the DL heavy. Its only a matter of time before the young guys pan out.

Hobe
07-17-2008, 04:41 PM
I can only say that trading Foxworth is wrong. Very wrong. I want to see Champ, Bly and Fox out there on the nickel!

silkamilkamonico
07-17-2008, 04:45 PM
Oh yeah lets go spending big time money on other teams washed up DL again shall we? Get a grip we got a good corner and drafted on the DL heavy. Its only a matter of time before the young guys pan out.

Yea. And meanwhile, our good corner on the defensive side who's getting $16 million in guaranteed money is getting beat deep. Let's just hope the matter of time it takes for the young guys to pan out doesn't take over the next 3 years, otherwise Dre Bly needs to be arrested for robbery.

After all, we've only been looking for a consistent pass rush for what, 9 years now?

Npba900
07-17-2008, 04:45 PM
Uhh yes there is a way we resign the both of them because Bailey and Bly both are getting up in age. Maybe we dont resign Foxworth if he wants does not want to sit another year. However im hearing theres a chance Foxworth actually starts this year. I highly doubt the Broncos want to draft rookies and have them step in right away when Bly and Bailey are done. Would be smarter to have Paymah, Foxworth, Jack Williams and then draft a talented rookie if your not comfortable with them. But Bly and Bailey dont have much longer. Im guessing about 2 more years of playing at an high level.

Champ is getting older no doubt. In a few years, I'd like to see about the possibility of Champ moving over to safety position and end his career at that position.

pnbronco
07-17-2008, 04:50 PM
Paymah got hurt early last season and it took awhile for him to recover. I look forward to seeing what he does this year. I think they have tried to shop Foxy a couple of times now, but no one has been willing to pay what they asking for. I really hope the boys up front gel and we can have a pass rush again with good tackling in the mix.

Ziggy
07-17-2008, 05:05 PM
More negatives against Dre Bly?

The guy not only get's beat like Deltha O'Neal did in Denver, but he makes a guaranteed $18 million in bonus money in which $16 million is guaranteed.
Someone wants to argue a CB can't be effective without a good pass rush, fine. Don't pay the guy $16 million in guaranteed money then. Use it on a pass rusher.



:confused:

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 05:07 PM
Yea. And meanwhile, our good corner on the defensive side who's getting $16 million in guaranteed money is getting beat deep. Let's just hope the matter of time it takes for the young guys to pan out doesn't take over the next 3 years, otherwise Dre Bly needs to be arrested for robbery.

After all, we've only been looking for a consistent pass rush for what, 9 years now?

Dude your looking at 2-3 plays where Bly was burnt......Since when did 2-3 plays determine the 16 game season?? Last 9 years we been signing trashy DL from other teams hoping they pan out. hell 7 of the last 7-8 drafts we were drafting bust at every position. Its looking like we finally figured the draft out. This is not Bly fault this is the coach/GM fault.

underrated29
07-17-2008, 08:45 PM
crazy.

Most in the nfl still consider us ot have the best cb duo out there. And a lot agree that bly is a gambling corner, but a good one.

NO! Wanting to get int's is not selfish, its great for the team in every way. You can bring it back for a quick 6, it stops the other team from scoring, it give us the ball, and better field position. An agressive CB who wants to take the ball away from the other team is exactely what you want.

Are you also aware that Bly was/is (have to check if still is) the leading CB to strip balls, cause fumbles or break up passes once the WR has his hands on it?

Bly is better than any other CB on the roster outside champ.

He has only been beaten long twice. 2 Times!!! He does not get beat all over the field in any way. Were you watching the 2nd corner this year or 3 years ago when big swat, and roc got owned all the time??/

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-17-2008, 08:57 PM
crazy.

Most in the nfl still consider us ot have the best cb duo out there. And a lot agree that bly is a gambling corner, but a good one.

NO! Wanting to get int's is not selfish, its great for the team in every way. You can bring it back for a quick 6, it stops the other team from scoring, it give us the ball, and better field position. An agressive CB who wants to take the ball away from the other team is exactely what you want.

Are you also aware that Bly was/is (have to check if still is) the leading CB to strip balls, cause fumbles or break up passes once the WR has his hands on it?

Bly is better than any other CB on the roster outside champ.

He has only been beaten long twice. 2 Times!!! He does not get beat all over the field in any way. Were you watching the 2nd corner this year or 3 years ago when big swat, and roc got owned all the time??/

Why did you do that to me man? You just brought back a nightmare i been trying to shake for years. Now ill never forget the flames that was on Rocs backside from getting ROASTED. :tsk::mad:

underrated29
07-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Lol.

My bad.

Atleast bly wasnt on our team then. We would have been beaten even worse:rolleyes:

Lonestar
07-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Do you have a link for that, or is it just a guess? Where are you hearing these whispers from? Bly is getting too much money to play the nickel. If his performance is slipping that much, Shanny will either restructure his contract, trade him, or cut him. He's just not going to pay that kind of money for a nickel corner.

have no fear neither foxworthless or Paymah are good enough to play CB in the NFL .. CONSISTENTLY.. Maybe Paymah if he clears his legal hurdle and Goodell.. He is supposed to be the more talented of the two..

Bly will be back for at least 2 more years as #2

WARHORSE
07-17-2008, 11:33 PM
We need a killer safety before we do anything else. I would trade Foxworth, but not if we dont get value for him. Hes a team player.....unselfish........and good to boot.

Those are the kind of guys you try to hang on to.


Paymah is coming into his own as well.

Tough situation.


It just may be that one of those guys does indeed get traded once the preseason games commence.

Give me a stud safety and you can get Foxy from me.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-18-2008, 02:22 AM
have no fear neither foxworthless or Paymah are good enough to play CB in the NFL .. CONSISTENTLY.. Maybe Paymah if he clears his legal hurdle and Goodell.. He is supposed to be the more talented of the two..

Bly will be back for at least 2 more years as #2

How you figure niether are good enough to play consistantly when neither of them play consistantly because of the guys in front of them? Paymah didnt give up a touchdown last year and saw a very good amount of time. :confused:Dont know where you would get the idea that they cant play its consistantly though.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-18-2008, 02:23 AM
Lol.

My bad.

Atleast bly wasnt on our team then. We would have been beaten even worse:rolleyes:

Yeah Peyton was pump faking for days that game....We need a ballhawk back there though regardless. I wish somebody liek Barrett pans out because he covers major ground. If not i want the S from USC next year.

Traveler
07-18-2008, 06:52 AM
Foxworth's progress has been impeded, just like DJ, because of the teams penchant to try and make players into something they aren't.

Foxworth is not a Safety! While I believe he'll never be as good a CB as Bly, the team asking him to play Safety did not help him or the team become better.

Both he and Paymah are probably gone after this year. Denver should try to get something in return for at least one of them.

broncofanatic1987
07-18-2008, 07:58 AM
Foxworth's progress has been impeded, just like DJ, because of the teams penchant to try and make players into something they aren't.

Foxworth is not a Safety! While I believe he'll never be as good a CB as Bly, the team asking him to play Safety did not help him or the team become better.

Both he and Paymah are probably gone after this year. Denver should try to get something in return for at least one of them.

Yeah, but it says something about the other safeties on the team when a 180 lb cornerback is a better option at safety than the ones who practice at the position regularly. I don't think that will be the case this year.

Trading Foxworth or Paymah is not a good idea. The Broncos need the depth this year. They are likely to resign one of them, most likely Paymah. The only way one of them becomes expendable is if Jack Williams completely out performs one or both of them in training camp and preseason.

silkamilkamonico
07-18-2008, 11:22 AM
IMO we need a front 7, more specifically front 4, before we need any more DB's.

When we were manhandled by Houston's defense last year, it was their front 4, not their entire backup DB's that game. They manhandled us with an entire secondary unit in their DB's because of their front 4.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-18-2008, 12:38 PM
Yeah, but it says something about the other safeties on the team when a 180 lb cornerback is a better option at safety than the ones who practice at the position regularly. I don't think that will be the case this year.

Trading Foxworth or Paymah is not a good idea. The Broncos need the depth this year. They are likely to resign one of them, most likely Paymah. The only way one of them becomes expendable is if Jack Williams completely out performs one or both of them in training camp and preseason.

Jack Williams is definitly gonna be a good player. How soon? remains to be seen but i love his skill set and athletic ability. Reminds me of a DWill who had potential out the roof. But i still say in this league you need atleast 5 good corners. If we could get a high pick for Fox if Jack shines then i guess that would be best for the team. But i doubt anybody is going to give up a 3rd or higher for him at this point. If anything we brung down his value setting back him development moving him to S.

WARHORSE
07-18-2008, 01:44 PM
Foxworth's progress has been impeded, just like DJ, because of the teams penchant to try and make players into something they aren't.

Foxworth is not a Safety! While I believe he'll never be as good a CB as Bly, the team asking him to play Safety did not help him or the team become better.

Both he and Paymah are probably gone after this year. Denver should try to get something in return for at least one of them.



OR..................the teams penchant for trying to put the best players on the field.


Denver obviously likes Foxworth and thinks alot of him.

Lonestar
07-18-2008, 04:58 PM
OR..................the teams penchant for trying to put the best players on the field.


Denver obviously likes Foxworth and thinks alot of him.

Other than being a boy scout and a nice guy, he is nothing special on the field.. IMO

I think his deficiency at CB, made him an experiment at Safety they needed to know if they could convert him.. Now they know, unless the new kid bombs watch him leave via being a FA.. and do nothing great on another team.. At least he will see a decent payday this way..

Like I said a decent guy but average at best CB..