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Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 12:42 PM
Does anybody other than myself expect him to be our starting FB this year? I think his is a classy guy with great character and work ethic. His physical nature and body wows me "not in a homo way:laugh:" But i think he has a serious shot to win this job when you also consider we dont have anything with his potential on the roster. Then we can talk about mis matches in the passing game...Theres not to many safeties/LBs who would want to tackle a guy who carries the load he carries coming at them with a full head of steam because remember hes not a slow guy. So what do you all think about Hillis going into the year since there has not been much talk of him on here that i have seen.

WARHORSE
07-13-2008, 12:54 PM
Does anybody other than myself expect him to be our starting FB this year? I think his is a classy guy with great character and work ethic. His physical nature and body wows me "not in a homo way:laugh:" But i think he has a serious shot to win this job when you also consider we dont have anything with his potential on the roster. Then we can talk about mis matches in the passing game...Theres not to many safeties/LBs who would want to tackle a guy who carries the load he carries coming at them with a full head of steam because remember hes not a slow guy. So what do you all think about Hillis going into the year since there has not been much talk of him on here that i have seen.


I really like him. Its gonna depend on him picking up the playbook I think.

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 12:57 PM
Hillis is pretty good. Ive seen him play for the past few years. He isnt as strong as a run blocker that I want on a pro team but he did well enough for McFadden and Jones. He has good hands so he can definably catch just dont expect a road grader.

Lonestar
07-13-2008, 01:01 PM
Hillis is pretty good. Ive seen him play for the past few years. He isnt as strong as a run blocker that I want on a pro team but he did well enough for McFadden and Jones. He has good hands so he can definably catch just dont expect a road grader.

I suspect if he makes the team he will have to learn how to plow the road for the RB's he is not just going to be a pretty face..

If he does not learn how to block better he will be gone.. Although I like the possibility of having a 240+ pounder back there.. as an option..

Think he has much more upside than sapp does, who IMO was a fan favorite because of his Colorado days..

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:04 PM
Sapp sucks, Im almost sure Sapp wont make the team this year.

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:04 PM
I think he will be a pretty good special teams player this year if he makes the team. I don't expect to see him get much time at all at FB.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:07 PM
If not him then who though? Thats another question who? Who do we have?

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 01:09 PM
I suspect if he makes the team he will have to learn how to plow the road for the RB's he is not just going to be a pretty face..

If he does not learn how to block better he will be gone.. Although I like the possibility of having a 240+ pounder back there.. as an option..

Think he has much more upside than sapp does, who IMO was a fan favorite because of his Colorado days..

Ive never been much of a Sapp fan at fb. That isnt his true spot I do think Hillis will win it eventualy but as a bronco fan I was really wanting a bit more of a pure blocker then an all-around fb.

claymore
07-13-2008, 01:09 PM
If he can catch on to the pass blocking and run blocking he will start IMHO............

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:10 PM
I'd rather see Sapp at FB. Better runner/reciever, and Denver won't be using many FB formations for blocking anymore anyways.

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 01:11 PM
I'd rather see Sapp at FB. Better runner/reciever, and Denver won't be using many FB formations for blocking anymore anyways.

Sorry but Hillis has better hands then Sapp will ever have.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:14 PM
I'd rather see Sapp at FB. Better runner/reciever, and Denver won't be using many FB formations for blocking anymore anyways.

You think Sapps a better runner and reciever than Hillis?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CI8jgpz_K_g

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:16 PM
Sorry but Hillis has better hands then Sapp will ever have.

Sorry, but I completely disagree.

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 01:18 PM
Sorry, but I completely disagree.

Im a hog fan and watched allot of the games he has played in you have just seen allot more of Sapp. Give him his shot before you block him out.

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:18 PM
You think Sapps a better runner and reciever than Hillis?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CI8jgpz_K_g



yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FudJ5kClFk

Timmy!
07-13-2008, 01:19 PM
I'm betting Sapp wins the starting FB job but Hillis makes the team (bye bye Mike Bell). Sapp has never really impressed me with his blocking, so just on a catching/running stand point Hillis very well could take over in 2nd half of the season as the starter as he appears to be bigger, faster, and have better hands than Sapp. It's really hard to tell right now though. After camps and preseason we'll have a much better idea of what this kid can do on Sundays.

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:20 PM
Im a hog fan and watched allot of the games he has played in you have just seen allot more of Sapp. Give him his shot before you block him out.

He's getting his shot. He's going to have to prove he belongs before people let him in. That's just the way it is with all rookies.

And I've seen almost every Arkansas game in the last 3 years because of Darren McFadden.

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 01:23 PM
I'm betting Sapp wins the starting FB job but Hillis makes the team (bye bye Mike Bell). Sapp has never really impressed me with his blocking, so just on a catching/running stand point Hillis very well could take over in 2nd half of the season as the starter as he appears to be bigger, faster, and have better hands than Sapp. It's really hard to tell right now though. After camps and preseason we'll have a much better idea of what this kid can do on Sundays.

I think Bell is gone as well. If he did play duel roles last year he would already be gone.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:24 PM
yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FudJ5kClFk

You are aware you showed me one play right?

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 01:25 PM
He's getting his shot. He's going to have to prove he belongs before people let him in. That's just the way it is with all rookies.

And I've seen almost every Arkansas game in the last 3 years because of Darren McFadden.

Ok just kind surprising not many get to see Arkansas play very often. Since we arnt a nation power we get very limited national coverage.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:25 PM
He's getting his shot. He's going to have to prove he belongs before people let him in. That's just the way it is with all rookies.

And I've seen almost every Arkansas game in the last 3 years because of Darren McFadden.

Well nobody is just handing him the job, I want too see him in pads in camp as Timmy said myself. But im just saying from a talent stand point hes our most talented FB.

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:28 PM
You are aware you showed me one play right?

You are aware you used a college highlight reel to make an argument over a professional player right?

Requiem / The Dagda
07-13-2008, 01:29 PM
Hillis' skillset is unique and fits absolutely great here in the WCO. He can tote the rock, catch the rock and he's a pretty good blocker. I hope he wins the job, but he'll have to prove he deserves the starting position first.

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:31 PM
Well nobody is just handing him the job, I want too see him in pads in camp as Timmy said myself. But im just saying from a talent stand point hes our most talented FB.

I'm just not seeing all this "talent". Sure he was better than most college FB's last year, and is well rounded, but I certainly wouldn't call him uber-talenbted.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 01:38 PM
You are aware you used a college highlight reel to make an argument over a professional player right?

But you gotta be aware you posted a college video also? Probably because Sapp has been in the NFL for a while now and his very little stand out moments?

silkamilkamonico
07-13-2008, 01:40 PM
But you gotta be aware you posted a college video also? Probably because Sapp has been in the NFL for a while now and his very little stand out moments?

Exactly. I was hoping you would see the irony of your argument and using a college highlight reel. In which, you could do that for every player that ever set foot out on an NFL practice field. With the exception of Wesley Duke, and Antonio Gates, of course.

Lonestar
07-13-2008, 01:51 PM
Exactly. I was hoping you would see the irony of your argument and using a college highlight reel. In which, you could do that for every player that ever set foot out on an NFL practice field. With the exception of Wesley Duke, and Antonio Gates, of course.

seems like zinger to me..:salute:

Simple Jaded
07-13-2008, 02:26 PM
I kept hoping Sapp would get his chance at RB but the Broncos went out and drafted another RB just like him in the 5th round, so he may never get his only chance in the NFL, I think he'll continue to be the starting FB until Hillis can take the job from him......

Arkansas Bronco
07-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Peyton can block well I and most mocks and pre-drafts had him the #1 fb. Im not sad to have him I was just saying I wanted more of a pure blocker then a every down fb. I think he takes Sapps job by week 5.

shank
07-13-2008, 04:12 PM
as much as i like sapp, i'll be disappointed if hillis isn't our starting FB in the very near future.

BroncoAV06
07-13-2008, 04:23 PM
I like what Payton could bring and I have always thought the Broncos could of used Sapp more as a 3rd down back/RB more.

ktrain
07-13-2008, 08:07 PM
I suspect if he makes the team he will have to learn how to plow the road for the RB's he is not just going to be a pretty face..

If he does not learn how to block better he will be gone.. Although I like the possibility of having a 240+ pounder back there.. as an option..

Think he has much more upside than sapp does, who IMO was a fan favorite because of his Colorado State days..

Fixed it for you;)

D1g1tal j1m
07-13-2008, 08:17 PM
Hillis reminds me of Dallas Clark in terms of his ability to catch the ball and make some moves in the secondary. It wouldn't surprise me to see him line up at TE or the slot in some formations to take advantage of his skill set.

He has the chance to compete with Sapp for the starting FB position and I hope he wins it outright. Sapp has not impressed me all that much and I can't really remember him making a game changing play in a game either receiving or running.

Slick
07-13-2008, 08:25 PM
There's a short video on Broncos TV here. I couldn't copy and paste the link to his video specifically for some reason but it's on this page.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=609&year=2008&month=7

He seems to have a good attitude, humble, willing to do whatever is asked. He looks big enough to lay the wood if he has too. I hope he makes the club...I've seen enough of Sapp's shitty pass blocking.

Lonestar
07-13-2008, 08:39 PM
Fixed it for you;)

I did not say CU just his Colorado days..

As Far As I know CSU is in Colorado.. Unless they moved it.

Simple Jaded
07-13-2008, 08:48 PM
I did not say CU just his Colorado days..

As Far As I know CSU is in Colorado.. Unless they moved it.


No such luck! It's still here...:rolleyes:...

Hobe
07-13-2008, 09:17 PM
We'll see in the next few weeks. Hillis is a Fullback as primary position. Sapp was converted. Sapp know the system. Hillis has a lot to learn. Come on camp!

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-13-2008, 10:54 PM
Hillis reminds me of Dallas Clark in terms of his ability to catch the ball and make some moves in the secondary. It wouldn't surprise me to see him line up at TE or the slot in some formations to take advantage of his skill set.

He has the chance to compete with Sapp for the starting FB position and I hope he wins it outright. Sapp has not impressed me all that much and I can't really remember him making a game changing play in a game either receiving or running.

Thats a damn good idea. I believe in creating mis matches by all means myself.

Tned
07-14-2008, 05:45 AM
Ok just kind surprising not many get to see Arkansas play very often. Since we arnt a nation power we get very limited national coverage.

I live in Arkansas and only got around 6 games on TV last year. Now, I don't pay for any of the college football packages (like NFL Sunday ticket and the like), so maybe more of the Hawg games were televised on the NCAA football packages.

Traveler
07-14-2008, 08:43 AM
Thats a damn good idea. I believe in creating mis matches by all means myself.

Don't we have enough TE's already? Only way I'd like to see Hillis at TE is if we cut Nate Jackson.

If he can block worth anything, I say we keep him at his natural FB position and use him as as another weapon as a check down for Cutler.

Tned
07-14-2008, 08:59 AM
Don't we have enough TE's already? Only way I'd like to see Hillis at TE is if we cut Nate Jackson.

If he can block worth anything, I say we keep him at his natural FB position and use him as as another weapon as a check down for Cutler.

Not only blocking and check down, but he provides the possibility to get some rushing yards from the fullback position. If I remember correctly, he has a pretty quick 40 time, and when given the opportunity to run in Arkansas, he did pretty well.

BroncoNut
07-14-2008, 09:30 AM
I absolutely loved this pick. He is a great lead blocker and short yardage fullback. He will definitley provide more options in red zone situations as well as 2nd and longs imo

Dean
07-14-2008, 09:49 AM
Does anybody other than myself expect him to be our starting FB this year? I think his is a classy guy with great character and work ethic. His physical nature and body wows me "not in a homo way:laugh:" But i think he has a serious shot to win this job when you also consider we dont have anything with his potential on the roster. Then we can talk about mis matches in the passing game...Theres not to many safeties/LBs who would want to tackle a guy who carries the load he carries coming at them with a full head of steam because remember hes not a slow guy. So what do you all think about Hillis going into the year since there has not been much talk of him on here that i have seen.

I can't say that I expect him to be the starting FB this year, but I believe that he has a great chance. He is going to need to exhibit much superior skills to Sapp to overcome the difference in experience. Sapp was not by any means the best FB in the league but he has beat out several challengers over the years.

It will be interesting to see if Hillis can become an intimidating lead blocker. Hillis can run; he can block, but the primary job of a FB is to create a crease for the running back.

Ziggy
07-14-2008, 10:32 AM
I do expect him to win the starting FB job by the time camp is over. I don't agree with the Dallas Clark comparison. He reminds me more of Chris Cooley from the Redskins. He can line up all over at offense, or just play the prototypical FB. He also has some soft hands, which will give the Broncos another red zone weapon. Sapp has been a hometown favorite, but has never proven to be anything other than a average to below average FB in the NFL.

SOCALORADO.
07-14-2008, 10:36 AM
Thats a damn good idea. I believe in creating mis matches by all means myself.

Jeez, man your just now starting to see this?
Hillis will be the "X" factor on offense.
I see him as the H-Back nightmare that can block, run, catch and move the pile when needed.
Shanny is going to be able to game plan around him in the red zone, which has been a huge problem last 2 years.

TE Chis Cooley has become a deadly H-Back for Wash in recent years.
Last year, he was used to great effect at the tail end of the season. Watch for him to continue this year.

SOCALORADO.
07-14-2008, 10:37 AM
I do expect him to win the starting FB job by the time camp is over. I don't agree with the Dallas Clark comparison. He reminds me more of Chris Cooley from the Redskins. He can line up all over at offense, or just play the prototypical FB. He also has some soft hands, which will give the Broncos another red zone weapon. Sapp has been a hometown favorite, but has never proven to be anything other than a average to below average FB in the NFL.

Just saw your post. NAILED IT.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-14-2008, 01:00 PM
Don't we have enough TE's already? Only way I'd like to see Hillis at TE is if we cut Nate Jackson.

If he can block worth anything, I say we keep him at his natural FB position and use him as as another weapon as a check down for Cutler.

Not move him to TE period, But line him up all over the feild such as Chris Cooley..... Just creat match up problem. Whose job is it to check the FB most the time? So if we motion Hillis out of the backfield the MLB would have to follow right? if he doesnt follow there playing zone......That means we get a heads up on what type of play there running atleast...If he does move out with Hillis then thats just a mis match anyway you put it because not to many MLBs can run with him.. I just think moving a guy around whose so versitile is the right thing to do. But no not moving him to TE for good. Hes a FB.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-14-2008, 01:02 PM
I do expect him to win the starting FB job by the time camp is over. I don't agree with the Dallas Clark comparison. He reminds me more of Chris Cooley from the Redskins. He can line up all over at offense, or just play the prototypical FB. He also has some soft hands, which will give the Broncos another red zone weapon. Sapp has been a hometown favorite, but has never proven to be anything other than a average to below average FB in the NFL.

I agree just compared the two in my last post i agree. Reminds me of Cooley how he lines up at FB, TE, WR everywhere.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-14-2008, 01:04 PM
Jeez, man your just now starting to see this?
Hillis will be the "X" factor on offense.
I see him as the H-Back nightmare that can block, run, catch and move the pile when needed.
Shanny is going to be able to game plan around him in the red zone, which has been a huge problem last 2 years.

TE Chis Cooley has become a deadly H-Back for Wash in recent years.
Last year, he was used to great effect at the tail end of the season. Watch for him to continue this year.

True stuff. Looks like Denver really beefed up the backfield with some bigger stronger backs this year with Hillis, Torain, Pittman. Also a upgraded OL...Young but i think its upgraded...I dont think we will have trouble punching the ball in on the 1 anymore. Nothing is more pathetic than making it inside the 10 and not scoring.

GEM
07-14-2008, 01:12 PM
Exactly. I was hoping you would see the irony of your argument and using a college highlight reel. In which, you could do that for every player that ever set foot out on an NFL practice field. With the exception of Wesley Duke, and Antonio Gates, of course.

And the clouds opened and the sun shined down. You could hear the sounds of Hallllllllelujah.


hehehe. :D

SOCALORADO.
07-14-2008, 01:43 PM
True stuff. Looks like Denver really beefed up the backfield with some bigger stronger backs this year with Hillis, Torain, Pittman. Also a upgraded OL...Young but i think its upgraded...I dont think we will have trouble punching the ball in on the 1 anymore. Nothing is more pathetic than making it inside the 10 and not scoring.

I think that was the plan going into the draft. get guys who could make plays inside the Red Zone. DEN had NO PROBLEM last year moving the ball outside the 20's. It was once they got into the Red Zone that the whole thing crumbled. I really, really dont want DEN to rely on some rookie kicker all year to make field goals cause the offense keeps taking a $h!t inside the 20.

Tned
07-14-2008, 07:05 PM
Ich bin drunk, aber ich sagen:



ROY

Requiem / The Dagda
07-14-2008, 07:14 PM
Ich bin drunk, aber ich sagen:



ROY

I love you Tned, LMAO.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-14-2008, 07:16 PM
Ich bin drunk, aber ich sagen:



ROY

What is that?

Tned
07-14-2008, 07:19 PM
I love you Tned, LMAO.

Go figure, i am in Germany, and in the end I resort to Long Island Ice Teas. I think I need to see a shrink....

I fly tomorrow, errr, today in aanbout 8 hours, but I still say Hillis = ROY. Wooo pig sui....

BroncoJoe
07-14-2008, 07:31 PM
Fly safe, Tned.

And, welcome back!

LordTrychon
07-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Go figure, i am in Germany, and in the end I resort to Long Island Ice Teas. I think I need to see a shrink....

I fly tomorrow, errr, today in aanbout 8 hours, but I still say Hillis = ROY. Wooo pig sui....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Patrick_Roy_1999.jpg/420px-Patrick_Roy_1999.jpg



:confused::confused:

nevcraw
07-14-2008, 07:53 PM
I want to see Hill run the ball some in Pre-season.. He reminds me alot of Allstot but with more speed and better hands. Would be nice to have that ever needed red zone triple threat for the next 10 years..

WARHORSE
07-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Bell gone, Hillis moves to number 2 by way of default.


By mid pre season, I predict heem le startehr........................

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Bell gone, Hillis moves to number 2 by way of default.


By mid pre season, I predict heem le startehr........................

You speak Iraq?

WARHORSE
07-21-2008, 07:29 PM
You speak Iraq?



Iraq?

lol.................



No. Do you speak United States?:D

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
07-21-2008, 07:37 PM
Iraq?

lol.................



No. Do you speak United States?:D

Lol uh yeah a little bit.

WARHORSE
07-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Lol uh yeah a little bit.


Cool.



Me too.:salute: