Elton Brand to Philly???

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Sixers getting in position to lure Brand from West Coast
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
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Updated: July 8, 2008, 9:57 AM ET
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It suddenly appears that the biggest threat to the Los Angeles Clippers re-signing franchise forward Elton Brand can be found far east of Oakland.

NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Monday night that the Philadelphia 76ers are again "actively involved" in the Brand hunt -- and now a very serious threat to tempt him away from L.A. -- after initially fearing that they couldn't compete financially with the Clippers and Golden State Warriors.





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In the face of a longstanding leaguewide consensus that Brand would return to Hollywood to form a new partnership with Clipper-to-be Baron Davis, sources say that the Sixers are growing increasingly confident in their ability to create additional salary-cap space by trading away swingman Rodney Carney and center Calvin Booth, setting them up to make a sufficiently rich offer Brand would struggle to refuse.



Dealing away Carney and Booth -- with Minnesota and Memphis quickly emerging as possible destinations -- would shed nearly $3 million from the Sixers' payroll next season as long as the trade doesn't require new GM Ed Stefanski to take any salary back.



Multiple front-office sources said late Monday that the Sixers are closing in on a deal with the Timberwolves in which the Wolves would absorb the contracts of both Carney and Booth with a $2.8 million trade exception created by Minnesota's trade with Miami last October which included Mark Blount. It was not immediately known what financial and/or draft considerations might be included in the trade from either side.



The Sixers are already expecting to have at least $11 million in salary-cap space to spend when the league announces next season's cap figure to all 30 teams Tuesday night. Depending on how closely the cap ceiling for the 2008-09 season comes to the widely projected estimate of $58-to-59 million -- and if the Sixers can finalize a trade to part with Carney and Booth -- it's conceivable that Philadelphia could possess the financial flexibility to start a five-year offer to Brand at a first-year salary in the $15 million range.



With much of the league's other significant free-agent business seemingly on hold while the Brand saga plays out, sources maintain that the Sixers also remain highly interested in Atlanta Hawks restricted free agent Josh Smith. Yet it appears that Philadelphia will give itself every opportunity to emerge as the unlikely winner of the Brand sweepstakes before deciding whether to sign Smith to an offer sheet that the Hawks would have seven days to match.



If Philadelphia can indeed manufacture a first-year salary of at least $15 million, that could exceed what can be offered by the Clippers, who must balance their obvious No. 1 priority -- retaining Brand -- with the cap space they'll need to formally sign Davis to the five-year, $65 million deal which the former Golden State point guard verbally agreed to last week.



It's possible that the Warriors, depending on where the cap is set, could still outbid both L.A. and Philadelphia for Brand thanks to Davis' defection. If next season's salary cap is announced at $59 million or thereabouts, as expected, Golden State should have the wherewithal to offer Brand a five-year deal worth just over $95 million.

Sources close to the process told ESPN.com on Monday that the Warriors continue to have dialogue with the Brand camp and have not abandoned hope of luring the 29-year-old to Northern California.



Yet separate sources suggested Monday that Brand -- if he's ultimately drawn away from his Face of the Franchise status with the Clippers -- would be more inclined to jump to Philadelphia than to Golden State, given the Sixers' residence in a conference with far fewer contenders than the West and the opportunity to join an emerging Philly nucleus (Andre Miller, Andre Iguodala, Thaddeus Young and the considerable wingspan of center Samuel Dalembert) that won many admirers as last season progressed.



It's believed that the Clippers can still assemble a five-year offer to Brand worth $80-to-85 million and give Davis his estimated $65 million over five years by simply renouncing their rights to free agents Corey Maggette and Shaun Livingston, renouncing several other free agents with modest salaries (Quinton Ross, Nick Fazekas, Marcus Williams, Paul Davis, Dan Dickau, Boniface N'Dong, James Singleton and Smush Parker) and perhaps waiving forward Josh Powell.



The Clippers also have the ability, as ESPN.com reported Monday, to put Brand on a very short list with Staples Center co-tenant Kobe Bryant as the only players in the league with an active no-trade clause in their contracts. A player must have at least eight seasons of service time, including four with his current team, to be eligible for a no-trade clause in the NBA. The player must also be entering into a new contract as opposed to merely extending a previous contract.



Provided that Clippers owner Donald Sterling responds to Philly's late charge by doing all he can financially to keep the two-time All-Star, it will be recorded as one of the bigger free-agent surprises in recent memory should Brand elect to leave behind his well-chronicled love of Hollywood and one-of-a-kind pride in being a Clipper to head back to the Eastern Conference for the first time since the Chicago Bulls traded him to the Clippers on draft night in 2001.



That's largely because Brand and agent David Falk, in announcing Brand's unexpected decision to opt out of the final season of his previous contract to become an unrestricted free agent, last week explained the forfeiture of next season's $16.4 million by saying that they hoped to give L.A. more payroll flexibility to strengthen the team around Brand.



Brand told ESPN.com on June 30 that his "intention is to stay" with the Clippers, while Falk spoke optimistically of Brand signing a deal to "finish his career with the Clippers" if the team could make another significant personnel acquisition or two. On the first day of free agency, L.A. reached a verbal agreement with Davis in what easily ranks as the biggest free-agent coup in Clippers history. ESPN.com reported two days later that Davis was the player Brand specifically asked Clippers management to chase in June.



But Clippers officials, already said to be privately shaken by Golden State's substantial offer to Brand, will have much more serious cause for concern if the Sixers can shed a salary or two this week to increase their available cap space.



Sources said that Carney going to Memphis would be a possibility because the Grizzlies have ample cap room of their own to absorb Carney as well as a natural interest in a player likely to have some gate appeal after experiencing collegiate success at Memphis.



But a deal with Minnesota would obviously be preferable for the Sixers, enabling them to shed two contracts and then immediately throw a megadeal at Brand after pointing to what they could achieve in the summer of 2008 ever since dealing Allen Iverson to Denver in December 2006.



Well ill say it now.......If Philly lands Elton Brand then there automatic title contenders. Josh Smith is still on our radar also but its looking like Smith may just sign his offer sheet and be an unrestricted FA next year. This is great news if your a Philly fan. Brand would dominate the East. Dalembert, brand, Young, Igoudala and Miller is a fantastic line up.

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And we can just wipe Brand going to the Warriors out. I highly doubt he wants to go there. There not ready to compete with the big dogs in the West just yet. There very young and talented but Baron is gon now. I dont think they have a PG unless they move Monte there who is more of a combo guard. Would hurt to trade away Carney but it would not be a big deal. We still got athletes galore and were still going to run. However our half court sets would not be trashy with Brand being that we can dump it in to him and let him work while the athletes slash and spot up for wide open shots. Pleaseeeeeeeeeee give the Sixers Brand.

[Ziggy]

And we can just wipe Brand going to the Warriors out. I highly doubt he wants to go there. There not ready to compete with the big dogs in the West just yet. There very young and talented but Baron is gon now. I dont think they have a PG unless they move Monte there who is more of a combo guard. Would hurt to trade away Carney but it would not be a big deal. We still got athletes galore and were still going to run. However our half court sets would not be trashy with Brand being that we can dump it in to him and let him work while the athletes slash and spot up for wide open shots. Pleaseeeeeeeeeee give the Sixers Brand.

He's going into his 10th year, and starting to fight injuries. The sixers are an up and coming team, but they are more than one player away from being a contender. If they give Brand a max deal it would be a mistake IMO.

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Hes only had one injury that was anything serious. And its not the knee.. Were an up and coming team but were ready NOW. Signing Brand for 5 years and he is only 28-29 is not a bad idea. He has a good 4 years left in him.

[Ziggy]

CR I'm not trying to bash Philly, I just don't think that they are close to contending for a championship. Any team that finished sub .500 in the Eastern Conference has a LONG way to go. I actually like some of the young talent they have there, but I don't think that they are just one player away from serious contention. Maybe they'll prove me wrong this season.

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Even when that team was suppose to win 20 games?

[Ziggy]

Predictions don't mean much to me. Results do. They had a very good floor general in Andre Miller. He's a bit of a plodder, but he has a great basketball IQ, and is the best alley-oop PG in the NBA. Sure do miss him here in Denver. Any time you have a very good distributor at the point and some young talent, 20 games is a ridiculously low prediction. I think the Sixers get better this season whether they get Brand or not. If they add Elton, they may get out of the first round, but they are still nowhere near the level of the Celtics or Pistons. Brand may put them on the same level as the Magic, but not much more. JMO

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The same pistons team that joe dumars is trying his hardest to blow up??

[BroncoAV06]

Oh Clips left out to dry...........

[Scarface]

Philly a title contender because they signed Elton Brand? LMAO! They're a nice young team but title contender they're not. You need a superstar to contend for a title. There's nothing near a superstar on that roster.

[keithbishop]

CR I'm not trying to bash Philly, I just don't think that they are close to contending for a championship. Any team that finished sub .500 in the Eastern Conference has a LONG way to go. I actually like some of the young talent they have there, but I don't think that they are just one player away from serious contention. Maybe they'll prove me wrong this season.

Championship?? Who cares?

I've been a 76'ers fan since 1976, oddly enough (my 1st pro sports team), and grew up watching Dr. J. I loved the NBA back then. Their lone Championship was magical.

Then I had my heart broken rooting for Barkley (I miss those days, too) and Iverson.

I wanted another Championship, but was OK with just having 1 until....
things got so bad that I couldn't watch any more.

I was disgusted with the overall level of play. I couldn't take it anymore.

2005-2006: I watched parts of 2 games. It was all I could handle. Laughing stock of the NBA.

2006-2007: I didn't watch. I didn't care. I barely followed their box scores.

2007-2008: Amazingly, they became fun to watch again. There were times when they couldn't buy a jump shot, but Miller was a God send and the fast break was as good as it gets. Steal after steal after steal... and, sloppy play and all, I fell in love with the team again.

If this becomes official, it isn't a huge move that will land a championship in 2009, but it is a huge move nonetheless.

Needless to say, I am not the greatest NBA fan. MLB, NFL, NCAA Basketball, and NCAA Football are my top 4, but this is exciting news.

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Its official!!!!!!!!!!!!1 We signed Brand tonight. We are contenders baby!!!

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Philly a title contender because they signed Elton Brand? LMAO! They're a nice young team but title contender they're not. You need a superstar to contend for a title. There's nothing near a superstar on that roster.

Dude what the hell do you know?? Brand is not a super star?? Get real Brand is one of the most dominate PFs in the game. Along with a team with youth and athleticism who took the Pistons to the wire last year in a season where we were suppose to win 20 games. Not to mention when you look at the east who realy stands out?? Boston.....Magic.....Sixers.....Are the top teams in the east. Sixers can very well make it to the finals now. Our next move is to sign a couple shooters and were set. Like it or not.

[BigDaddyBronco]

Baron Davis must be pissed.

[Ziggy]

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Source: 76ers send Carney, top pick to ’Wolves
Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA — The 76ers have agreed to trade forward Rodney Carney and a future No. 1 pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves in a deal that clears salary cap space for Philadelphia to make a stronger push for free agents, two people in the NBA told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the trade had not yet been completed and the NBA trade moratorium is not lifted until Wednesday.

The 76ers will throw in reserve forward Calvin Booth, and acquired a future second round draft pick and Minnesota’s $2.8 million trade exception gained in a 2007 deal with Miami.

“The only thing I can share with you is that Calvin’s contract will be traded to Minnesota tomorrow,” said Booth’s agent, Mark Termini.

The deal clears the way for the Sixers to potentially offer a nearly $14 million starting salary and a long-term deal to free agents like forwards Elton Brand or Josh Smith. The emerging Sixers now have another $2 million in salary cap space to add to the $11 million in space available that they hope will land them the post player they badly need to become contenders in the Eastern Conference.

A proposed trade between the teams was first reported by Yahoo.com.

The Sixers had Smith in town for a visit last week but did not give the restricted free agent an offer sheet. As he’s a restricted free agent, the Hawks can match any offer made to the 6-foot-9, 235-pound Smith.

Brand would clearly be the Sixers best option. Brand opted out last week of his contract with the Clippers, but Los Angeles is expected to make a strong push to re-sign him. Brand had said he plans to stay with the Clippers despite his decision, even if he must accept a contract below the NBA maximum for free agents.

Smith or Brand could make the Sixers instant contenders in the Eastern Conference. They were one of the surprise teams in the league last season, going 40-42 and stretching Detroit to six games in the first round of the playoffs. One thing they lacked was an athletic, consistent scorer at power forward.

Smith would be a good fit for the up-tempo Sixers and would be a huge upgrade over last year’s power forward, Reggie Evans. He’s one of the premier shot blockers in the league and could team with starting center Samuel Dalembert and small forward Thaddeus Young to form one of the top frontcourts in the Eastern Conference.

The deal allows the rebuilding Timberwolves, who have long been one of the worst cap managers in the league, to continue putting themselves in a position to be a major player on the free agent markets in 2009 and 2010.

Carney has one year remaining on his contract with a team option for 2009-10, while Booth will come off the books at the end of the upcoming season, unless a buyout agreement is reached before that.

The Timberwolves received the trade exception from the Heat because they took on less cash than they gave up in a deal last October that sent Mark Blount and Ricky Davis to Miami in exchange for Antoine Walker, Michael Doleac and Wayne Simien. That deal allowed them to rid themselves of Blount’s bloated contract.

On draft night in June, the Timberwolves were able to unload Marko Jaric’s hefty deal, shipping him to Memphis with O.J. Mayo, Walker and Greg Buckner for Kevin Love, Mike Miller, Jason Collins and Brian Cardinal. All three of the Grizzlies in that deal have contracts that will expire no later than 2010.

That freedom will allow the team to pursue a big-name free agent or two to supplement a rising young core group of Al Jefferson, Randy Foye, Corey Brewer and Rashad McCants.

As a secondary prize on the court in the Philly deal, Carney will give them an athletic swingman who averaged 5.8 points and 2.1 rebounds in his second season out of Memphis. Booth, if he stays, will give the team a little more depth at center behind Jefferson and Collins.





Sending a 1st round pick away for cap space. WOW.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I just got done running laps around my house from excitement. I love the Elton Brand signing! Very nice! I hope they can still swing a deal with Josh Smith, but if they don't I won't sweat it.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Philly a title contender because they signed Elton Brand? LMAO! They're a nice young team but title contender they're not. You need a superstar to contend for a title. There's nothing near a superstar on that roster.

You SOB! :D We, the sixers, have stars in the making... and maybe you've heard of a guy named Iggy! He may not be a Superstar, there's probably only about 7 or 8 guys you can really list in that category, but combine him with Miller, Brandon, and Young! you have a very well rounded team who can not only play solid defense but can score from all over the court.

[BigDaddyBronco]

I just got done running laps around my house from excitement. I love the Elton Brand signing! Very nice! I hope they can still swing a deal with Josh Smith, but if they don't I won't sweat it.
I thought of you when I saw this on the ESPN ticker yesterday. I said, "I bet Boss is woo-hooing it right now", my wife said "who the hell is Boss." I just laughed.

[Ziggy]

I was looking over Philly's cap numbers. Right now they are only locked into one bad contract, and before the Brand signing, they only have 16 million devoted in cap space next year. If thier FO plays it right, and they get lucky in the draft in the next 2 years, they have a chance to become an elite team in 2-3 years. I'll be interested to see if they try to sign Andre Miller next season or not.

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Source: 76ers send Carney, top pick to ’Wolves
Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA — The 76ers have agreed to trade forward Rodney Carney and a future No. 1 pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves in a deal that clears salary cap space for Philadelphia to make a stronger push for free agents, two people in the NBA told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the trade had not yet been completed and the NBA trade moratorium is not lifted until Wednesday.

The 76ers will throw in reserve forward Calvin Booth, and acquired a future second round draft pick and Minnesota’s $2.8 million trade exception gained in a 2007 deal with Miami.

“The only thing I can share with you is that Calvin’s contract will be traded to Minnesota tomorrow,” said Booth’s agent, Mark Termini.

The deal clears the way for the Sixers to potentially offer a nearly $14 million starting salary and a long-term deal to free agents like forwards Elton Brand or Josh Smith. The emerging Sixers now have another $2 million in salary cap space to add to the $11 million in space available that they hope will land them the post player they badly need to become contenders in the Eastern Conference.

A proposed trade between the teams was first reported by Yahoo.com.

The Sixers had Smith in town for a visit last week but did not give the restricted free agent an offer sheet. As he’s a restricted free agent, the Hawks can match any offer made to the 6-foot-9, 235-pound Smith.

Brand would clearly be the Sixers best option. Brand opted out last week of his contract with the Clippers, but Los Angeles is expected to make a strong push to re-sign him. Brand had said he plans to stay with the Clippers despite his decision, even if he must accept a contract below the NBA maximum for free agents.

Smith or Brand could make the Sixers instant contenders in the Eastern Conference. They were one of the surprise teams in the league last season, going 40-42 and stretching Detroit to six games in the first round of the playoffs. One thing they lacked was an athletic, consistent scorer at power forward.

Smith would be a good fit for the up-tempo Sixers and would be a huge upgrade over last year’s power forward, Reggie Evans. He’s one of the premier shot blockers in the league and could team with starting center Samuel Dalembert and small forward Thaddeus Young to form one of the top frontcourts in the Eastern Conference.

The deal allows the rebuilding Timberwolves, who have long been one of the worst cap managers in the league, to continue putting themselves in a position to be a major player on the free agent markets in 2009 and 2010.

Carney has one year remaining on his contract with a team option for 2009-10, while Booth will come off the books at the end of the upcoming season, unless a buyout agreement is reached before that.

The Timberwolves received the trade exception from the Heat because they took on less cash than they gave up in a deal last October that sent Mark Blount and Ricky Davis to Miami in exchange for Antoine Walker, Michael Doleac and Wayne Simien. That deal allowed them to rid themselves of Blount’s bloated contract.

On draft night in June, the Timberwolves were able to unload Marko Jaric’s hefty deal, shipping him to Memphis with O.J. Mayo, Walker and Greg Buckner for Kevin Love, Mike Miller, Jason Collins and Brian Cardinal. All three of the Grizzlies in that deal have contracts that will expire no later than 2010.

That freedom will allow the team to pursue a big-name free agent or two to supplement a rising young core group of Al Jefferson, Randy Foye, Corey Brewer and Rashad McCants.

As a secondary prize on the court in the Philly deal, Carney will give them an athletic swingman who averaged 5.8 points and 2.1 rebounds in his second season out of Memphis. Booth, if he stays, will give the team a little more depth at center behind Jefferson and Collins.





Sending a 1st round pick away for cap space. WOW.

Yeah but you got too figure that pick will be in the late 20s.

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Andre Miller is on his last year. He probably wont be back after next year. Lou Williams is waiting in the wings.

[honz]

Elton Brand is officially a back stabber in my book.

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Elton Brand is officially a back stabber in my book.

Why? Because he chose family over friends? :coffee: Yeah imagine stabbing his family in the back....

[BroncoAV06]

Well considering the fact that he opted out and told LA that he wanted to clear room so they can add another star with him, yes Brand has taken a hit but Sixers fans don't care, they are happy and Brand is rich.

As for the Sixers they can easily become 4-5 seed in the East. Brand comes back strong, they have to hope that Young can improve and stay away from that sophmore slump, plenty of depth up front, now all they need is to see if they can fit a shooter somewhere in there and you have the makings of a team that can win a round and go from there.

As for Josh Smith, you got Brand so no Smith! But I think that works out better because Smith is what you would like Young to turn into so instead of having 2 of the same players you start to have a line-up that can go inside/slash, and like I said before find a shooter.

July 9th means signings can happen today.

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Yeah we are not getting Smith. Thats over. We need to bring in James Jones or Jacobson.

[Ziggy]

Yeah we are not getting Smith. Thats over. We need to bring in James Jones or Jacobson.

Jones signed with Miami.

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Jones signed with Miami.

Did he? Damn it.:tsk:

[honz]

Why? Because he chose family over friends? :coffee: Yeah imagine stabbing his family in the back....
He didn't even take the best offer out there which was from the Warriors, and I think his family would be okay either way.

I just read where he said that his negotiations with LA "fell through" and if that is true then I retract my statement. I don't have any problem with him leaving the Clips, I do have a problem with him saying that he was going to stay with the Clips and then proceeding to bolt to Philly. But whatever, my Jazz got Boozer under similar "dubious" circumstances and the Cavs just made up a story to make him look bad when really they were trying to screw him over...so I really shouldn't talk without knowing the whole story.

[honz]

Yeah we are not getting Smith. Thats over. We need to bring in James Jones or Jacobson.
You guys need Kyle Korver!












Yes, I realize you guys traded him for cap space that ended up getting you Brand. Seriously, though...Casey Jacobsen?

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I mean he said his "intent" was to return to the Clippers. But when he saw the bigger picture his family wanted to move back East and it was not all about the money because GS offered way more. He wanted to win, He wanted to be close to his family.

[Scarface]

Dude what the hell do you know?? Brand is not a super star?? Get real Brand is one of the most dominate PFs in the game. Along with a team with youth and athleticism who took the Pistons to the wire last year in a season where we were suppose to win 20 games. Not to mention when you look at the east who realy stands out?? Boston.....Magic.....Sixers.....Are the top teams in the east. Sixers can very well make it to the finals now. Our next move is to sign a couple shooters and were set. Like it or not.

Superstars carry their teams deep into the playoffs on a regular basis. When has Elton ever done that? Philly's a decent young team that just got better but title contender they're not. They wouldn't even make the playoffs out West. Not trying to rain on any parades. I'm actually glad to see Elton leave the Clipps and go to a better situation.

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Dude you wont even make the playoffs next year in the west lmao. So what are you talking about?

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And your going to judge Brand in the playoffs when hes been there one time?? Lol

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And his only time goin to the playoffs he averaged 25, 10 and 4....

[Scarface]

I take back everything I said then. It's obvious that not only is he a superstar but he's the greatest player in the league today. What a steal by Philly. You guys will rack up the championships.

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Yeah i love bullshit sarcasm when somebody is wrong. Lmao facts are he played for the Clippers for years and when they finally got good he dominated as much as he could in his one year of being int he playoffs with 25-10-4

[BroncoAV06]

I to find it funny how everybody is trying to rain on the Sixers parade. They might not win the title right off the bat but its not like they got worse. They can compeat in the East easy. Brand is a very good player, Clips did not go far with Brand (2nd round) but outside of Lebron, show me a team that has been carried by one player? It does not happen that is a bad argument; yes superstars with help.

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Scar is just hating obviously. We made the playoffs last year and took a good team to the wire. With Reggie Evans starting at PF lol. Your right we might now win it all this year, But were definitly a threat in the East. You have to weigh in that the east does not have many good big men either. Brand should dominate.

[keithbishop]

I take back everything I said then. It's obvious that not only is he a superstar but he's the greatest player in the league today. What a steal by Philly. You guys will rack up the championships.


Judging from your tone, there must have been 30 or 40 other players that would be a better fit. Was Brand even in the top 75 free agents? Not sure why you are keeping the identity of the one addition that would have guaranteed Philly a title. There is one player that would have accomplished that, right? Otherwise, you don't have a reason to continue griping about the move.

What am I missing... did Philly weaken their PF position with the move? Is Brand going to make Artest look like a model citizen? Does Andre Miller hate him? Would staying with the roster prior to adding Brand have been a better move?

You're probably right. Awful, horrible move. Damned shame Philly failed to improve their roster in the offseason. :rolleyes:

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Judging from your tone, there must have been 30 or 40 other players that would be a better fit. Was Brand even in the top 75 free agents? Not sure why you are keeping the identity of the one addition that would have guaranteed Philly a title. There is one player that would have accomplished that, right? Otherwise, you don't have a reason to continue griping about the move.

What am I missing... did Philly weaken their PF position with the move? Is Brand going to make Artest look like a model citizen? Does Andre Miller hate him? Would staying with the roster prior to adding Brand have been a better move?

You're probably right. Awful, horrible move. Damned shame Philly failed to improve their roster in the offseason. :rolleyes:

Im not happy anymore. :rolleyes:

[Scarface]

Judging from your tone, there must have been 30 or 40 other players that would be a better fit. Was Brand even in the top 75 free agents? Not sure why you are keeping the identity of the one addition that would have guaranteed Philly a title. There is one player that would have accomplished that, right? Otherwise, you don't have a reason to continue griping about the move.

What am I missing... did Philly weaken their PF position with the move? Is Brand going to make Artest look like a model citizen? Does Andre Miller hate him? Would staying with the roster prior to adding Brand have been a better move?

You're probably right. Awful, horrible move. Damned shame Philly failed to improve their roster in the offseason. :rolleyes:

It was a great signing but he doesn't make Philly a title contender. That stuff is hilarious. That's my point. Philly needs a lot more then Elton Brand if they think they have a legit shot at winning it all.

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Lol @ Phily needs alot more in the EAST. Your old ass team needs alot more to even remain a playoff team in the west. Philly is the 2nd best team in the East right now.

[keithbishop]

It was a great signing but he doesn't make Philly a title contender. That stuff is hilarious. That's my point. Philly needs a lot more then Elton Brand if they think they have a legit shot at winning it all.

Then why come across as if Brand isn't a good starting point? Why the negativity?


I want to see improvement. Signing Brand addresses Philly's biggest weakness in a major way.

Immediately after your 1st bash in the thread (post 10), I offered a bit of perspective as a long time Philly fan, clearly stating that I didn't believe the move translates into a title next season.

I still don't see a post in the thread claiming Philly will win it all.

[Scarface]

Then why come across as if Brand isn't a good starting point? Why the negativity?


I want to see improvement. Signing Brand addresses Philly's biggest weakness in a major way.

Immediately after your 1st bash in the thread (post 10), I offered a bit of perspective as a long time Philly fan, clearly stating that I didn't believe the move translates into a title next season.

I still don't see a post in the thread claiming Philly will win it all.

All I said was they weren't title contenders. If that's negativity than so be it. Read the first post to answer your last question.

[Scarface]

Lol @ Phily needs alot more in the EAST. Your old ass team needs alot more to even remain a playoff team in the west. Philly is the 2nd best team in the East right now.

My old ass team would mop the floor with Philly's asses if they ever met in The Finals.:coffee:

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My old ass team would mop the floor with Philly's asses if they ever met in The Finals.:coffee:

Yeah even though we blew the spurs out last time we played :coffee: without brand :coffee:

[Scarface]

Yeah even though we blew the spurs out last time we played :coffee: without brand :coffee:

If 7 points is a blowout then yes you blew us out....in the regular season. We also lost to Memphis in the regular season too. I guess that means they're a better team then the Spurs too. LMAO!

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Scar i dont know if your a closet Knicks fan or Clippers fan. But your hatred for Brand and the sixers has been obvious. Why are you mad the Spurs havent made any type of moves? Because the Spurs are an hold ass team when you look around the West and see 7-8 young fantastic teams? And your not one of them? So you come in here trying to rain on the Sixers fans parade because your time is up and ours has begun? I understand though. Goodluck being a 9th seed....Oh wait theres no 9th seed so goodluck watching the Sixers go deep in the playoffs.

[keithbishop]

All I said was they weren't title contenders. If that's negativity than so be it. Read the first post to answer your last question.

.....and I said they weren't title contenders.

That isn't negativity. The repeated shots at the team after the move were what I meant by negativity. No big deal. Fire away. The fact that they will be a vastly improved team works quite well for me.