Broncos key to success?

[nj10]

Which of these individual season stats would you most like to see in 2008? Poll taken from broncos official website

[Northman]

Although i want to see a lot more TD's both from the air and ground i will settle with sacks. For that means that we are starting to get pressure on the opposing Qb which will then limit their time on the field and gives us more time offensively.

[turftoad]

How about being in the top 10 at stopping the run?

[nj10]

How about being in the top 10 at stopping the run?

INDIVIDUAL stats...

[turftoad]

INDIVIDUAL stats...

Sorry little buddy.

15+ sacks.

Stop the pass at the point of origin.

[MOtorboat]

Jay Cutler :D

[Skinny]

Stop the run. I don't know what you could have put up there for that. Maybe 'no 100 yrd rushers for 10 games' or something.

Since that's not up there i don't even want the defense on the feild.... 1,500 yard rusher it is.

[Hobe]

I put down the 1500 year rusher, but it doesn't have to be one guy. A good ball controlling offense keeps the ball out of the opponents hands and opens up the passing lanes.

[nj10]

Ball Control. Ball Control. Ball Control. 1500yd rusher.

[EastCoastBronco]

I'll say it one more time...Red Zone Offence.

[Northman]

Ball control wont really help anything. Denver was almost even in TOP last year with their opponents. It was their inability to stop the opposing offense that was damaging.

[EastCoastBronco]

I wholeheartedly disagree....We controlled the ball with ease BETWEEN the twenties, the tens even. It was our complete inability to put sevens up instead of threes that killed us. We start scoring some sevens early and just watch what our defence can do. All the proof you need of this is 97 and 98. We got up fast and turned the D loose.

[turftoad]

Ball control wont really help anything. Denver was almost even in TOP last year with their opponents. It was their inability to stop the opposing offense that was damaging.

Thats right. If we can't stop the other team from running, passing and scoring, it won't make any diff what our offense can do.

[nj10]

Thats right. If we can't stop the other team from running, passing and scoring, it won't make any diff what our offense can do.

LOL...and if we always stopped the other team...and they always stopped us our record would be 0-0-16

[Northman]

I wholeheartedly disagree....We controlled the ball with ease BETWEEN the twenties, the tens even. It was our complete inability to put sevens up instead of threes that killed us. We start scoring some sevens early and just watch what our defence can do. All the proof you need of this is 97 and 98. We got up fast and turned the D loose.

Although i agree that scoring TD's is in need of improvement over FG's you can also look no further than 2000 when we had the second highest scoring offense in the league and yet when faced with a real defense we got shut down cold. Out scoring defenses is all fine and great but ultimately will not solve the problem, especially with our problems. This isnt like we are in the middle of the pack defense where we can get away with that. We were at the bottom of the league last year.

[turftoad]

Although i agree that scoring TD's is in need of improvement over FG's you can also look no further than 2000 when we had the second highest scoring offense in the league and yet when faced with a real defense we got shut down cold. Out scoring defenses is all fine and great but ultimately will not solve the problem, especially with our problems. This isnt like we are in the middle of the pack defense where we can get away with that. We were at the bottom of the league last year.

Defense wins championships!!!

[nj10]

Defense wins championships!!!

Agreed. But what good is taking the ball away from the opposing offense if yours can't do anything with it?

[Northman]

Agreed. But what good is taking the ball away from the opposing offense if yours can't do anything with it?

Yea, but thats a red zone problem not a ball control problem. Hopefully, with the addition of Clady and the other guy we will have improved that area.

[EastCoastBronco]

Point taken...Our defence was indeed horrible last season but I think that it was due to Bates scheme more than anything.They looked confused ALL the time. However, even more frustrating than our defensive confusion was our Red Zone confusion. How many times could we have won those close games if our O had not been completely shut down inside the 5?

[Northman]

Point taken...Our defence was indeed horrible last season but I think that it was due to Bates scheme more than anything.They looked confused ALL the time. However, even more frustrating than our defensive confusion was our Red Zone confusion. How many times could we have won those close games if our O had not been completely shut down inside the 5?

Hard to say. Sometimes it didnt take long for a opposing offense to score (Green Bay game) so its hard to say whether or not we would have won some of those games. The other thing that no one has really brought up is the Special Teams unit. That alone hurt every other aspect of our team last year including a direct loss to Chicago. So really, im kind of hoping the ST's is the most improved with Royal and coverage because field position can go a long way for both offense and defense.

[Scarface]

Jay Cutler :D

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[EastCoastBronco]

True...Other than our field goal unit our ST's have really hurt us the past few years. The Chicago and Green Bay games still haunt my dreams... The Chicago game however, I still blame on Shanny or whoever made the call to kick to Devon Hester. It reminded me so much of the "Kick to Hall" in KC a few years back. Some things you just don't do. The Green Bay game was a defensive meltdown for sure. We had them by the bag and let them go.
I'm hoping, as are most of us, that we are only a couple tweaks away from turning this ship around. We've got a good strong spear, we just need to point it in the right direction...
Man I can't wait for September....

[underrated29]

well id say either the 1500 yard rusher or the 30 + tds from jay, which ever will be more tds for us. I am guessing 30+ from jay.


We need more points, our d sucked, but like someone said, I attribute most of it to bates.

How many games did we lose last year by 10 pts or less? I dont know, but i am sure theres atleast 4.

That makes us an 11-5 team instead of 7-9. Take that plus the fact that the opposing d now will probably pass to catch up and we can let elvis and co. go to work, thereby also taking pressure of our biggest weakspot- stopping the run.

[turftoad]

Agreed. But what good is taking the ball away from the opposing offense if yours can't do anything with it?

I don't think our offense was the big problem last year.

Our offense has never had a bunch of trouble once we got the ball.

[Northman]

I don't think our offense was the big problem last year.

Our offense has never had a bunch of trouble once we got the ball.


Well, they had their share of issues i cant lie. Offensively we averaged 20 points a game but with our defense the way it is right now thats not going to cut it. We need to find a happy medium for both units to even consider making a run in the playoffs next year. I would like to see this team get back up in the 25-30 point range a game with a defense ranked at least around the 10-15 range. If we can do that we have a lot of hope for the future.

[lex]

I went with the 30 TD passes.

[Northman]

I went with the 30 TD passes.


Wow, thats so unlike you. I thought for sure you would be with the Rushing.

[turftoad]

Well, they had their share of issues i cant lie. Offensively we averaged 20 points a game but with our defense the way it is right now thats not going to cut it. We need to find a happy medium for both units to even consider making a run in the playoffs next year. I would like to see this team get back up in the 25-30 point range a game with a defense ranked at least around the 10-15 range. If we can do that we have a lot of hope for the future.

Agreed.......
I'm not very worried about our offense. That'll take care of itself.
If our "D" can go from 30th in the league in stopping the run to the 10-15 range I'd be very happy with that.
We face LJ, LT and McFadden twice a year. We HAVE to be able to at least contain these guys to have a chance in our own Div.

[lex]

Wow, thats so unlike you. I thought for sure you would be with the Rushing.

No, I think the 30 TDs is a bigger key a) because its points and we needed points last year more than yards, and b) I think Jay is the best asset we have on offense and so if he has a good season (I actually think our strength is our passing game when looking at personnel), I think other things will look better including the defense and the running game.

[jrelway]

Defense wins championships!!!

what this guy said. just look at the giants last year.

[Lonestar]

If you have one runner with 1500+ yards that opens up alot of the other things on that list..

The passing games is better we can pressure the QB cause they most likely will not be able to run the ball thus sacks and picks will go up because of it..

[Northman]

Im surprised that the Punter isnt listed. If he punts it out of the stadium everytime that slows any momentum the opposition has. He should be a choice up there.

[Medford Bronco]

How about a team stat for holding teams under 100 yards per game against us

Way more important than any individual stat on there.

[Northman]

How about a team stat for holding teams under 100 yards per game against us

Way more important than any individual stat on there.


That might be a little too tough to do right now. We might improve defensively this year but i wouldnt expect that kind of result this soon.

[Lonestar]

Hey folks we all have our pet peeves.. or projects.. vote on what is on the list PLEASE..


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If you do not like the poll as written list your requests and then lets start another one..

[Northman]

Hey folks we all have our pet peeves.. or projects.. vote on what is on the list PLEASE..


:focus:


If you do not like the poll as written list your requests and then lets start another one..


I was kidding about the Punter thing. I already voted. :D

[Medford Bronco]

Hey folks we all have our pet peeves.. or projects.. vote on what is on the list PLEASE..


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If you do not like the poll as written list your requests and then lets start another one..

sorry JR I was not trying to be mean or insulting. :vroam:

I just though of what is the most important thing to me on what we need to improve on to win.

[Lonestar]

seriously we should get a list going and post it later on.. see what folks really think our mission statement should be..

Yeah I know win Superbowl, but we all know that is not going to happen this year..

[Kaylore]

I'll take the passing stats because it means Jay is maturing. I would be put a write in vote for "under 25 sacks allowed" to go along with it.

[NameUsedBefore]

I'm a little confused onto the question of this topic... Is it the stats you'd most like to see as they reflect what you'd think would go with a successful season (a la; a 1,500 rusher means we must be winning) or just some stats you'd like to see?

If it's the latter I go for interceptions. Easily the most exciting aspect of a football game for me because they're also the most abrubt and unpredictable. If it's the former... No way to tell, IMO. Plenty of teams have had any number of those and did poorly. Kind of a crapshoot in that regard. (For instance, you might get a 1,500 yard rusher, but there's no synergy in that with a 1,500 yard passer.)

[BigDaddyBronco]

I'll take the passing stats because it means Jay is maturing. I would be put a write in vote for "under 25 sacks allowed" to go along with it.
I'm on board with that thinking. To me long term success for the team starts and ends with having a good QB. If Jay can get 30 TD passes then we will have a bonafide stud QB.

Other talent can come and go, but without a good QB it is hard to win one, if not several SB's.

[lex]

I'm a little confused onto the question of this topic... Is it the stats you'd most like to see as they reflect what you'd think would go with a successful season (a la; a 1,500 rusher means we must be winning) or just some stats you'd like to see?

If it's the latter I go for interceptions. Easily the most exciting aspect of a football game for me because they're also the most abrubt and unpredictable. If it's the former... No way to tell, IMO. Plenty of teams have had any number of those and did poorly. Kind of a crapshoot in that regard. (For instance, you might get a 1,500 yard rusher, but there's no synergy in that with a 1,500 yard passer.)

Both. If you look at the wording the inference could more easily be made that its stats youd like to see. But in answering the question, most people are trying to identify the answer to the question in accordance with which statistic most strongly correlates to team success.

[tubby]

If Cutler has 30+ touchdown passes the Broncos will be in pretty good shape.

[Dean]

I picked 1500 yard rusher because it means that we are controling the time of possession and keeping our defense rested so that our starters are on the field a high percentage of each game. We would be forcing the opposition to put 8 men in the box which allows for big gains through the air.

I think that points allowed, though a team stat, would give you a better picture of a team's success or failure.

[lex]

I picked 1500 yard rusher because it means that we are controling the time of possession and keeping our defense rested so that our starters are on the field a high percentage of each game. We would be forcing the opposition to put 8 men in the box which allows for big gains through the air.

I think that points allowed, though a team stat, would give you a better picture of a team's success or failure.

You could look at it on the flip side too. If Jay has a big season, it makes it less likely that they will put 8 men in the box.

[omac]

I voted 30 TD passes for Cutler, only because that would be fun to watch. None of it will matter if the Broncos can't stop the run.

[broncosfanscott]

I chose 30 TD passes because that would mean that we are scoring points as well as moving the ball. I also think 15+ sacks is very important as well since pressure on the QB is something we have lacked for some time now and with sacks.....the INTs will come as well since the QB may make a bad throw.

One thing that should be on the list is redzone scoring. TDs instead of FGs.

[WARHORSE]

All of the above.

[BroncoAV06]

I went INT's, lots of interesting points; 10+ means that you are getting some sort of pressure against, you prevent the other team from scoring and your offense now has the chance to score, points of TO can be big momentum swingers.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I want to see more touchdowns in the redzone and more of a consistant bruising running game Ahem Ahem Torain...