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Denver Native (Carol)
07-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Davis has great support for his Hall of Fame candidacy throughout the Rockies, but he knows he's a long-shot to ever make it to Canton. Gary Miller interviews the former Broncos star.Read More... (http://www.cbs4denver.com/video/?id=...nc.dayport.com) [CBS 4 Denver Broncos Videos] - 7/2/2008 5:03:43 PM

DenBronx
07-02-2008, 07:39 PM
davis does have a long shot to make it but id love to see him make it. one can only imagine what he would have done if he would have stayed healthy.

he was sick! td over portis anyday in my book.

Bizzarro
07-02-2008, 07:44 PM
TD was just getting started before his knee injury against the Jets, would have loved to see how he would have done the next few season if he was 100%, we wouldn't be talking about 'if' he make it, but 'what' year and if it would be as a first ballot.

DenBronx
07-02-2008, 07:49 PM
TD was just getting started before his knee injury against the Jets, would have loved to see how he would have done the next few season if he was 100%, we wouldn't be talking about 'if' he make it, but 'what' year and if it would be as a first ballot.

if td could have had one more solid season then i think he would have been a lock for canton.

he still might get in though...

BroncoJoe
07-02-2008, 08:22 PM
Obvious bias, but he deserves to be in the HOF.

lex
07-02-2008, 09:40 PM
I dont understand why Davis is a long shot. It must be that anti-Bronco thing (or the fact that Woody Paige is the one speaking on his behalf). When you look at RBs, a lot of time their best years come from a 3-5 year range after which they might be good but often not as good as they were in that 3-5 year range. Thats not to say the RBs skill erodes. In some cases thats true but in other cases, it could be roster turnover. But in any case, if you look at Davis, best 3-5 years, it pretty much stacks up against anyone in the history of the game. The only thing Davis is lacking are those years of what are commonly lesser production with many running backs. People seem to think that if he would have played 3 more years and had 1200 yards or so he would be a lock. But why does he really need that. Again, the guy has one of the best stretches of 4 years in the history of the game. Put another way: At no point in Curtis Martin's career has he ever been better than Davis in his 3 year window, yet he will be in the HOF because he stayed healthy enough to log a few more 1000 yard seasons than Davis. People always complain that Art Monk was never great. Well Davis is the opposite. He provided greatness in spades. So why is he being judged more for not having the ho-hum 1200 yard seasons and not the 1700-2000 yard seasons that he did have? Dumb. I guess Im preaching to the choir though.


Its kind of interesting though how a lot of people, even non-Broncos fans think he is HOF worthy but few think he will make it in.

Npba900
07-03-2008, 05:09 AM
I dont understand why Davis is a long shot. It must be that anti-Bronco thing (or the fact that Woody Paige is the one speaking on his behalf). When you look at RBs, a lot of time their best years come from a 3-5 year range after which they might be good but often not as good as they were in that 3-5 year range. Thats not to say the RBs skill erodes. In some cases thats true but in other cases, it could be roster turnover. But in any case, if you look at Davis, best 3-5 years, it pretty much stacks up against anyone in the history of the game. The only thing Davis is lacking are those years of what are commonly lesser production with many running backs. People seem to think that if he would have played 3 more years and had 1200 yards or so he would be a lock. But why does he really need that. Again, the guy has one of the best stretches of 4 years in the history of the game. Put another way: At no point in Curtis Martin's career has he ever been better than Davis in his 3 year window, yet he will be in the HOF because he stayed healthy enough to log a few more 1000 yard seasons than Davis. People always complain that Art Monk was never great. Well Davis is the opposite. He provided greatness in spades. So why is he being judged more for not having the ho-hum 1200 yard seasons and not the 1700-2000 yard seasons? Dumb. I guess Im preaching to the choir though.


Its kind of interesting though how a lot of people, even non-Broncos fans think he is HOF worthy but few think he will make it in.

The only thing that may help TD get into to the HOF is if the voters give alot more sway and points for SB appearances and SB wins, vs just making longevity an overwhelming criteria. Running backs like Eric Dickerson, Curtis Martin, Earl Campbell never appeared in the SB nor have they won a SB.

lex
07-03-2008, 08:30 AM
The only thing that may help TD get into to the HOF is if the voters give alot more sway and points for SB appearances and SB wins, vs just making longevity an overwhelming criteria. Running backs like Eric Dickerson, Curtis Martin, Earl Campbell never appeared in the SB nor have they won a SB.

True. I guess I dont understand how one of the top 3 RBs of that generation doesnt get in only because. If you look at TD and Bettis or Martin, TDs resume looks a lot better unless total yards is your only criteria. 2000 yard rusher, league MVP, SB MVP, 2 X SB champion, and a couple of records for yards in the post season. That far excedes anything on Bettis' or Martin's resume. Its so substantial that its feeble to hold Davis' feet to the fire because he is missing 3 or so 1000 yard seasons which is how a lot of RBs get to 10,000 yards. I think a lot of people see this and know this including fans of other teams but when it comes to the fat old men who vote for stuff like this (Peter King for example) they have other agendas.

Lonestar
07-03-2008, 10:07 AM
The fact is nor matter how great he was his exposure to the voters was a lot less than most of the division not in the west for either conference.. almost 4 to 1 more invisibility than someone in the Eastern/southern divisions..

If the voters do not see you consistently then you do not have the memory factor.. His only hope is his visibility on the NFL channel..

spikerman
07-04-2008, 05:08 PM
I still say the biggest argument for him getting in is Gayle Sayers. There seems to be no question in most of the national sports writers' minds that Sayers is a sure-fire HoFer. When you compare Davis' stats to Sayers, Davis wins easily. The only argument that I hear from the national media is that Sayers "changed the game". I really would like someone to explain that rationale to me.

I personally think a 2000 yard season should be like 500 HR (used to be) or 3000 hits in baseball. That should require automatic enshrinement.

Canmore
07-04-2008, 10:13 PM
I still say the biggest argument for him getting in is Gayle Sayers. There seems to be no question in most of the national sports writers' minds that Sayers is a sure-fire HoFer. When you compare Davis' stats to Sayers, Davis wins easily. The only argument that I hear from the national media is that Sayers "changed the game". I really would like someone to explain that rationale to me.

I personally think a 2000 yard season should be like 500 HR (used to be) or 3000 hits in baseball. That should require automatic enshrinement.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Additionally, look at all the post season records Davis compiled. He averaged 143 yards a game in the post season. Unbelievable. It will be a travesty if he not enshrined, but then again he's a Denver Bronco and we all know how that works in Canton.

The Hamburgler
07-05-2008, 12:21 AM
I personally think a 2000 yard season should be like 500 HR (used to be) or 3000 hits in baseball. That should require automatic enshrinement.

so Jamal Lewis deserves enshrinement?

spikerman
07-05-2008, 12:13 PM
so Jamal Lewis deserves enshrinement?
If I'm going to stand by my statement, then yes, he deserves enshrinement. Since he played for an east coast team when he did it, he'll probably get in anyway. That is unless he gets an asterisk for gaining 500 of his 2000+ yards in 2 games against the Browns.

NorthernLights
07-05-2008, 03:14 PM
It's a good discussion item. I did some research, just because I had some time. Basically, I compared TD's four productive years against the HOF RB's best 4 years and came up with the following (I also threw in LT, because I'm a homer):

Player................Rush/Ave........Yds/Ave.........TD's/Ave
Eric Dickerson......390...............1848............. .14.25
Barry Sanders......329...............1759..............1 1.25
Walter Payton.....353................1674..............12 .00
LT.....................337................1654.... ..........17.50
OJ.....................311................1644.... ..........10.50
Earl Campbell.......351................1614............ ..13.75
TD.....................336................1603.... ..........14.00
Jim Brown............279................1595.......... ....13.25
Tony Dorsett........307................1400............ ..6.50
Thurman Thomas...307................1377..............8.25
Marcus Allen.........282................1208............. .9.50
John Riggins..........303................1188.......... ....13.00
Franco Harris.........280................1181............ ..11.50
Gale Sayers...........204................1003.......... ....9.25

He stacks up very well against the best.

Lonestar
07-05-2008, 06:51 PM
It's a good discussion item. I did some research, just because I had some time. Basically, I compared TD's four productive years against the HOF RB's best 4 years and came up with the following (I also threw in LT, because I'm a homer):

Player................Rush/Ave........Yds/Ave.........TD's/Ave
Eric Dickerson......390...............1848............. .14.25
Barry Sanders......329...............1759..............1 1.25
Walter Payton.....353................1674..............12 .00
LT.....................337................1654.... ..........17.50
OJ.....................311................1644.... ..........10.50
Earl Campbell.......351................1614............ ..13.75
TD.....................336................1603.... ..........14.00
Jim Brown............279................1595.......... ....13.25
Tony Dorsett........307................1400............ ..6.50
Thurman Thomas...307................1377..............8.25
Marcus Allen.........282................1208............. .9.50
John Riggins..........303................1188.......... ....13.00
Franco Harris.........280................1181............ ..11.50
Gale Sayers...........204................1003.......... ....9.25

He stacks up very well against the best.


outstanding research thanks

TD being #3 on the td list not bad..

Not that it will make much difference to the east coast basis that the HOF voters has..

Simply not enough of them that see Western conference teams consistently..

MOtorboat
07-05-2008, 06:53 PM
It's a good discussion item. I did some research, just because I had some time. Basically, I compared TD's four productive years against the HOF RB's best 4 years and came up with the following (I also threw in LT, because I'm a homer):

Player................Rush/Ave........Yds/Ave.........TD's/Ave
Eric Dickerson......390...............1848............. .14.25
Barry Sanders......329...............1759..............1 1.25
Walter Payton.....353................1674..............12 .00
LT.....................337................1654.... ..........17.50
OJ.....................311................1644.... ..........10.50
Earl Campbell.......351................1614............ ..13.75
TD.....................336................1603.... ..........14.00
Jim Brown............279................1595.......... ....13.25
Tony Dorsett........307................1400............ ..6.50
Thurman Thomas...307................1377..............8.25
Marcus Allen.........282................1208............. .9.50
John Riggins..........303................1188.......... ....13.00
Franco Harris.........280................1181............ ..11.50
Gale Sayers...........204................1003.......... ....9.25

He stacks up very well against the best.

LT deserves to be on that list, so no real bias imo...also shows that Terrell Davis should be in the Hall, imo.