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omac
06-14-2008, 12:12 AM
I was thinking, while last season and previous to that was about getting somewhat high profile players, like Javon, Travis, Graham, Stokley, and Simeon Rice, this season seems to be more about not just character, but depth.

Last season, we had a ton of injuries at key positions, so now, we have so many RBs (and FBs who can play RB), WRs, OL depth, and better depth at the DL.

The philosophy now seems to be loading up on very serviceable players in case the injury bug hits us again.

I'm sure thankful that we added Colbert, Jackson, and even Parker; that makes me feel more patient about Brandon's recovery time.

With the competition at RB, I'm not that concerned about losing Travis Henry. I'm pretty confident at least 2 to 3 of them will emerge as dependable rotational guys.

I really like our OL depth now. We even got a free agent center to go with Nalen and the rookie.

I like this depth approach. Until last season, I didn't appreciate how much good depth means to a team. :cheers:

TXBRONC
06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
I was thinking, while last season and previous to that was about getting somewhat high profile players, like Javon, Travis, Graham, Stokley, and Simeon Rice, this season seems to be more about not just character, but depth.

Last season, we had a ton of injuries at key positions, so now, we have so many RBs (and FBs who can play RB), WRs, OL depth, and better depth at the DL.

The philosophy now seems to be loading up on very serviceable players in case the injury bug hits us again.

I'm sure thankful that we added Colbert, Jackson, and even Parker; that makes me feel more patient about Brandon's recovery time.

With the competition at RB, I'm not that concerned about losing Travis Henry. I'm pretty confident at least 2 to 3 of them will emerge as dependable rotational guys.

I really like our OL depth now. We even got a free agent center to go with Nalen and the rookie.

I like this depth approach. Until last season, I didn't appreciate how much good depth means to a team. :cheers:

The wide receiver position is iffy to me because we have two guys (Colbert and Jackson) who have played at high level in the past have not done so rescently. We have one guy (Parker) who has never really amounted to much on the field. I think we'll be ok even if Marshall can not but obviously I think we are in excellent shape if Marshall can go. Also if all three can be productive in Denver but most especially Jackson and Colbert we'll have excellent depth. All that being said it's still up in the air to some degree.

Like you I'm not worried about the running back situation even though Henry was released.

Again regardless of who ends starting where depth wise I think were in good shape as long as we can stay away from the injury bug.

WARHORSE
06-14-2008, 10:24 AM
I love what we did this offseason.

Although I love to have the sexy pick as well, I think we addressed not only what was proper as to position, but what was proper as to the character of this team.

Its been like a good cup of coffee in the morning..........Kona Gold.:coffee:

oubronco
06-14-2008, 10:46 AM
The wide receiver position is iffy to me because we have two guys (Colbert and Jackson) who have played at high level in the past have not done so rescently. We have one guy (Parker) who has never really amounted to much on the field. I think we'll be ok even if Marshall can not but obviously I think we are in excellent shape if Marshall can go. Also if all three can be productive in Denver but most especially Jackson and Colbert we'll have excellent depth. All that being said it's still up in the air to some degree.

Like you I'm not worried about the running back situation even though Henry was released.

Again like regardless of who ends starting where depth wise I think were in good shape as long as we can stay away from the injury bug.

don't forget Royal I think he will contribute alot this season not only as a returner but as a wideout as well

Lonestar
06-14-2008, 12:31 PM
don't forget Royal I think he will contribute alot this season not only as a returner but as a wideout as well


I do not think he will factor at WR unless the WR corp is decimated with injuries..

Rarely does a rookie WR do well in the NFL the first season. Even less so in DEN where they actually have to run precise routes, block well and have a playbook the size of a Manhattan phone book to learn..

Playing WR in DEN is not just about making catches.. as many have been here and NOT done that over the past 15 years or so..

He may get some reps @ the slot position IF Brandon is not playing well but other than that I would not draft him onto my FF team till late in the draft process..

omac
06-14-2008, 05:46 PM
The wide receiver position is iffy to me because we have two guys (Colbert and Jackson) who have played at high level in the past have not done so rescently. We have one guy (Parker) who has never really amounted to much on the field. I think we'll be ok even if Marshall can not but obviously I think we are in excellent shape if Marshall can go. Also if all three can be productive in Denver but most especially Jackson and Colbert we'll have excellent depth. All that being said it's still up in the air to some degree.

Like you I'm not worried about the running back situation even though Henry was released.

Again like regardless of who ends starting where depth wise I think were in good shape as long as we can stay away from the injury bug.

Hopefully, the string of injuries we had last season won't come again; a ridiculous amount of key players injured. But I think we can weather a few injuries with this team. :cheers:

omac
06-14-2008, 05:49 PM
I do not think he will factor at WR unless the WR corp is decimated with injuries..

Rarely does a rookie WR do well in the NFL the first season. Even less so in DEN where they actually have to run precise routes, block well and have a playbook the size of a Manhattan phone book to learn..

Playing WR in DEN is not just about making catches.. as many have been here and NOT done that over the past 15 years or so..

He may get some reps @ the slot position IF Brandon is not playing well but other than that I would not draft him onto my FF team till late in the draft process..

I agree, it's highly improbable that he gets a lot of looks as a WR during this first season ... then again, with last season's lack of depth, even Glenn Martinez got looks. :D

I am excited at his return ability, and his upside as a receiver in the future.

Lonestar
06-14-2008, 06:00 PM
I agree, it's highly improbable that he gets a lot of looks as a WR during this first season ... then again, with last season's lack of depth, even Glenn Martinez got looks. :D

I am excited at his return ability, and his upside as a receiver in the future.

If he is truly as good as they are hyping then he is the future at the slot.. maybe even some looks at WR down the road.. But I do not see him as a smaller WR getting the looks and catches as the bigger guys in this system..

He does not seem to be big enough to beat one of the top two CB on a consistent basis off the LOS.. # 3 or 4 CB he should do well against.. But it will not happen this year with all the experience WR in front of him.. He will play and probably alot but a Anquan Boldin rookie phenom he is not..

TXBRONC
06-14-2008, 06:53 PM
I agree, it's highly improbable that he gets a lot of looks as a WR during this first season ... then again, with last season's lack of depth, even Glenn Martinez got looks. :D

I am excited at his return ability, and his upside as a receiver in the future.

Even though Royal looked great in OTAs it's still to early to say he'll have big impact on the offense this season. However if he is as quick of learner as its been reported then he could find his way into the mix if he doesn't get overwhelmed and I'm not saying he will.

Nevertheless I do expect that he can impact the offense through his return abilities.

oubronco
06-14-2008, 07:43 PM
I do not think he will factor at WR unless the WR corp is decimated with injuries..

Rarely does a rookie WR do well in the NFL the first season. Even less so in DEN where they actually have to run precise routes, block well and have a playbook the size of a Manhattan phone book to learn..

Playing WR in DEN is not just about making catches.. as many have been here and NOT done that over the past 15 years or so..

He may get some reps @ the slot position IF Brandon is not playing well but other than that I would not draft him onto my FF team till late in the draft process..

Yes true but playing in the slot makes it a whole lot easier and with the other WR's taking the heat off him we'll see

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 08:51 PM
True i agree. Young and talented with a good core of great vets on this team. We should make some noise. I want to atleast win the division first. That would be huge for us being that people are picking Oakland or Chargers to win it.

oubronco
06-14-2008, 11:13 PM
oakland :confused: :der:

Ziggy
06-14-2008, 11:59 PM
I was thinking, while last season and previous to that was about getting somewhat high profile players, like Javon, Travis, Graham, Stokley, and Simeon Rice, this season seems to be more about not just character, but depth.

Last season, we had a ton of injuries at key positions, so now, we have so many RBs (and FBs who can play RB), WRs, OL depth, and better depth at the DL.

The philosophy now seems to be loading up on very serviceable players in case the injury bug hits us again.

I'm sure thankful that we added Colbert, Jackson, and even Parker; that makes me feel more patient about Brandon's recovery time.

With the competition at RB, I'm not that concerned about losing Travis Henry. I'm pretty confident at least 2 to 3 of them will emerge as dependable rotational guys.

I really like our OL depth now. We even got a free agent center to go with Nalen and the rookie.

I like this depth approach. Until last season, I didn't appreciate how much good depth means to a team. :cheers:


I agree. I wonder how much of this was a flat change in philosiphy, how much was budget oriented, and how much was Shanahan realizing that we may not just be one player away from a championship team.

Ziggy
06-15-2008, 12:00 AM
True i agree. Young and talented with a good core of great vets on this team. We should make some noise. I want to atleast win the division first. That would be huge for us being that people are picking Oakland or Chargers to win it.

Who's picking Oakland to win this division other than Raider fans?

Lonestar
06-15-2008, 12:33 AM
Yes true but playing in the slot makes it a whole lot easier and with the other WR's taking the heat off him we'll see

AS I said he may get some looks if stokely is hurt, beyond that highley unlikely he will see much playing time..

hamrob
06-15-2008, 10:39 AM
Shanny and Bates will create plays for Royal. True he won't start...but he will be a factor. And for those of you who question his size...try taking a look at Marvin Harrision's size...then get back to me!

TXBRONC
06-15-2008, 10:36 PM
Shanny and Bates will create plays for Royal. True he won't start...but he will be a factor. And for those of you who question his size...try taking a look at Marvin Harrision's size...then get back to me!

At this point, his biggest contributions will be on Special Teams. I kind of doubt Shanahan is going to design special plays just for Royal. Don't get me wrong I think eventually Royal is going be a very important weapon in Shanahan's offense but I don't see it happening this year.

Lonestar
06-17-2008, 11:37 AM
At this point, his biggest contributions will be on Special Teams. I kind of doubt Shanahan is going design special plays just for Royal. Don't get me wrong I think eventually Royal is going be a very important weapon in Shanahan's offense but I don't see it happening this year.

Probably the same plays that Stokely runs from the slot.

Everyone sees an kid with some speed and all of sudden we are going to rewrite the play book.

When they found Marshall could run with ball getting YAC did they alter the playbook? I would guess not just added something that was already there..

I doubt seriously that there is a play in football that is not already in mikeys bible..

And your correct the rookie will see very little time on the field UNLESS someone gets hurt.. 15-25 receptions at best for the year. Way to much offense potential besides him that need touches..

TXBRONC
06-17-2008, 10:26 PM
Probably the same plays that Stokely runs from the slot.

Everyone sees an kid with some speed and all of sudden we are going to rewrite the play book.

When they found Marshall could run with ball getting YAC did they alter the playbook? I would guess not just added something that was already there..

I doubt seriously that there is a play in football that is not already in mikeys bible..

And your correct the rookie will see very little time on the field UNLESS someone gets hurt.. 15-25 receptions at best for the year. Way to much offense potential besides him that need touches..


If he gets between 15-25 receptions I think that's pretty good productions all things considered.

topscribe
06-17-2008, 10:34 PM
The wide receiver position is iffy to me because we have two guys (Colbert and Jackson) who have played at high level in the past have not done so rescently. We have one guy (Parker) who has never really amounted to much on the field. I think we'll be ok even if Marshall can not but obviously I think we are in excellent shape if Marshall can go. Also if all three can be productive in Denver but most especially Jackson and Colbert we'll have excellent depth. All that being said it's still up in the air to some degree.

Like you I'm not worried about the running back situation even though Henry was released.

Again like regardless of who ends starting where depth wise I think were in good shape as long as we can stay away from the injury bug.

Well, one thing the Broncos have going for them is that they have a QB
who will make the WRs better. Remember, Elway made the Three Amigos
better than they were. I believe Cutler can have the same effect.

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Requiem / The Dagda
06-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I wouldn't doubt that with Eddie's overall receiving abilities and athletic ability that Shanahan and the offensive coaches (such as Bates, etc.) would try and designate plays or assign routes that'd accentuate Fast Eddie's (Great nickname Top!) strengths. You know those wide receiver reverses. . . that's nothing new -- but Fast Eddie would be great for those. Changing the playbook for one guy? Absolutely not. Making some changes to accommodate a skill set we haven't had here in a while? Quite possible, if not very likely.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-18-2008, 01:40 AM
Lol you dont have to alter your playbook to design a few plays for a guy. They can throw that in during the week. Its sort of like the devin Hester effect where you just want to get the ball in his hands some how. However Royal is a much much better WR than Hester ever was. When camps ended Royal stayed and worked with the ball machines after every practice. But his biggest impact this year will be on special teams. But i would not sleep on him having 6-8 recieving touchdowns of pure ability. Oh and when we found out Marshall could run the ball we ran him some nice reverses designed for him, Im guessing we will do the same type of things with Royal. Love the talent we have this year from top to bottom though at the WR position. Last year we were pathetic other than Marshall and Stokes we had nothing. I like Marshall, Colbert, Stokes, DJAck, Royal. Glenn Martinez as a starter last year made me woozy

LordTrychon
06-18-2008, 03:54 AM
I think the added bonus of going after more depth players is that hopefully better depth will lead to better contributors on special teams... especially if they let Niko do that on top of starting MLB (if he starts MLB).

It would be nice to improve there, at least.