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WARHORSE
06-11-2008, 02:29 PM
The Browns cut loose Bentley. He was a very good center prior to his injuries, and he passed the physical the Browns gave him. They just have money committed to other players.

Pluggin him in to this line?


If hes anywhere back to himself......and he says he is...........that would be nuts.

Former ALL-PRO.


Browns | Bentley asks for release from team
Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:22:10 -0700
Mary Kay Cabot, of The Plains Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns (http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl) C LeCharles Bentley (http://www.kffl.com/player/1205/nfl) (knee) asked for his release from the team Wednesday, June 11, and was granted his request, according to his agent Jonathan Feinsod.

Lonestar
06-11-2008, 02:40 PM
guessing he wants more money than we have to offer..

I know nothing about him so not biased at all..

I think we have enough center types on the payroll. and if Licthensteiger is all he is cracked up to be he is the future..

BOSSHOGG30
06-11-2008, 02:45 PM
Bentley has barely seen the field in two years... His can't be counted on as a starter, so I don't know if you are recommending the Broncos look at him for that role.

WARHORSE
06-11-2008, 05:40 PM
Bentley has barely seen the field in two years... His can't be counted on as a starter, so I don't know if you are recommending the Broncos look at him for that role.


Heck yeah Im recommending him. Didnt you guys see the ALL-PRO part of that? Hes been paid, and hes itchin to play. Not sure what hes lookin for as far as compensation, but I do know this: The guy can play center or guard on an all pro level. As far as not playin for two years........give him the length of a training camp.

Bentley is still plenty young, and as for Lichenstobernoogle, whom I really like, he should sit behind and learn. If Bently comes at a reduced rate, sign me up on the list of people who would want to see him play here.

Nails is way back on the back burner of his career.......

if its doable......its doable. If not.........then not.

In Hawaii we say: If can.....can. If no can.........no can.

TXBRONC
06-11-2008, 06:58 PM
The Browns cut loose Bentley. He was a very good center prior to his injuries, and he passed the physical the Browns gave him. They just have money committed to other players.

Pluggin him in to this line?


If hes anywhere back to himself......and he says he is...........that would be nuts.

Former ALL-PRO.


Browns | Bentley asks for release from team
Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:22:10 -0700
Mary Kay Cabot, of The Plains Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns (http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl) C LeCharles Bentley (http://www.kffl.com/player/1205/nfl) (knee) asked for his release from the team Wednesday, June 11, and was granted his request, according to his agent Jonathan Feinsod.

We have a starting center.

dogfish
06-11-2008, 06:58 PM
bentley was one of the best in the league before he got hurt, but i have a hard time believing the browns would cut him over money if he was really healthy enough to play at a high level-- IIRC, they had reduced his contract to about a million dollars for this year, i can't see them cutting an elite player over that kind of money. . . .

Lonestar
06-11-2008, 07:05 PM
bentley was one of the best in the league before he got hurt, but i have a hard time believing the browns would cut him over money if he was really healthy enough to play at a high level-- IIRC, they had reduced his contract to about a million dollars for this year, i can't see them cutting an elite player over that kind of money. . . .


must be they are moving on and since he asked to be released they did and got out from under the contract..

Ziggy
06-12-2008, 05:01 PM
He was a very good player at one time. He's still fairly young, and he has good size, strength, and mobility when he's not hurt. If he comes cheap, bring him in.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-12-2008, 06:46 PM
guessing he wants more money than we have to offer..

I know nothing about him so not biased at all..

I think we have enough center types on the payroll. and if Licthensteiger is all he is cracked up to be he is the future..

Why would he want more money and they paid him 16.9 million and he never played a down the last 2 years. Bentley just feels the team has moved on without him, WHich is true because that OL was great without him last year. Bentley would be a huge piece to our OL if we can sign him, Were obviously interested in him according to Adam Shefter http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808ca4fe&template=with-video&confirm=true&campaign=ec0005

shank
06-12-2008, 06:57 PM
schefter says we're in need, not that we're necessarily interested.

i agree with dog; i don't see why they'd let a player as good as him walk if he was ready to play. if he is ready, then his price will most likely be high.

i'm also fairly content with our interior atm. but like any player, if the price is right, i won't complain. (er, hypothetically, wouldn't complain)

rcsodak
06-12-2008, 10:14 PM
Why would he want more money and they paid him 16.9 million and he never played a down the last 2 years. Bentley just feels the team has moved on without him, WHich is true because that OL was great without him last year. Bentley would be a huge piece to our OL if we can sign him, Were obviously interested in him according to Adam Shefter http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808ca4fe&template=with-video&confirm=true&campaign=ec0005

Well, nice read, but in NO way did he say Denver was "obviously interested". It's simply his opinion of some of the teams that are currently weak.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Oakland or KC snatch him up.

Plus, he's only listed as 309#....

....so he SURELY doesn't fit into Shanny's new "Heavy Oline"!!!!! :lol:

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-12-2008, 11:01 PM
CLady is 309 and we took him 12th overall. hmm

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-12-2008, 11:02 PM
Keep in mind that Bentley wants to win. I doubt KC and Oakland is where you go if you want to win.

Nature Boy
06-12-2008, 11:22 PM
Bently? Why? Something happened to Nalan or Hamilton again?

We've got other more pressing concerns.

MOtorboat
06-12-2008, 11:24 PM
Bently? Why? Something happened to Nalan or Hamilton again?

We've got other more pressing concerns.

Like replacing Travis Henry?

Nature Boy
06-12-2008, 11:59 PM
Yep, that's 1. Too bad for us huh?

shank
06-13-2008, 12:13 AM
Yep, that's 1. Too bad for us huh?

nah. i'm glad.

broncohead
06-13-2008, 12:47 AM
Bently? Why? Something happened to Nalan or Hamilton again?
We've got other more pressing concerns.

Concution(sp?) and torn bicept I do believe. I say bring him in. The best players will start, and we need help in the trenches. I'm not crossing off the rooks before they get a shot but why not add compitition where we struggled last year?

Nature Boy
06-13-2008, 12:51 AM
So we're putting the hopes of the whole season on Selvin?

I just hope Ryan Torrain breaks out in 2008, but I highly doubt it.

I see the Broncos RBs playing hot potatoes this coming season. At least 5 RBs will get a look at the ball in the 1st 3-4 games.

Nature Boy
06-13-2008, 12:54 AM
Concution(sp?) and torn bicept I do believe. I say bring him in. The best players will start, and we need help in the trenches. I'm not crossing off the rooks before they get a shot but why not add compitition where we struggled last year?

Hamilton's concussion is more than a yr ago and Nalen's torn bicep is 100% now. Nalen is a nasty tough old veteran that will have another great yr. Don't write off the old man yet who anchored our O-line for long as I can remember.

shank
06-13-2008, 12:55 AM
So we're putting the hopes of the whole season on Selvin?

I just hope Ryan Torrain breaks out in 2008, but I highly doubt it.

I see the Broncos RBs playing hot potatoes this coming season. At least 5 RBs will get a look at the ball in the 1st 3-4 games.

selvin will be spelled by pittman and torain, and i see torain's carries increasing as the season progresses. an injury will see hall, sapp, or bell into the rotation, maybe hillis, but i'd prefer it if he just stayed at FB and became a pro-bowler asap :beer:

broncohead
06-13-2008, 01:02 AM
Hamilton's concussion is more than a yr ago and Nalen's torn bicep is 100% now. Nalen is a nasty tough old veteran that will have another great yr. Don't write off the old man yet who anchored our O-line for long as I can remember.

I'm not writing either of them off. Nalen is coming off a season ending injury and it doesn't help that he is old for an NFL football player. I know he is tough and ancored our line for many years but that doesn't mean he'll come back 100%. I want compotition, depth, and solid starters. Why not bring him in. It'll only help the team.

Nature Boy
06-13-2008, 02:33 AM
selvin will be spelled by pittman and torain, and i see torain's carries increasing as the season progresses. an injury will see hall, sapp, or bell into the rotation, maybe hillis, but i'd prefer it if he just stayed at FB and became a pro-bowler asap :beer:

Young, Pittman, Torrain, Hall, Sapp, Bell and Hillis? Man that is a sad list.

Worst than the year when we had to convert FB Ruben Droughns to start at RB, and surprisingly he turned out to be a great back in my opinion. Speaking of Ruben, It'd be a great idea if we can trade from Ruben from the Giants. Ruben was a beast of a RB, especially in short yardage.

DenBronx
06-13-2008, 02:55 AM
no more injury prone browncos please.

we have 4 capable centers...it's nalens job to lose and lightsaber looks promising.

broncohead
06-13-2008, 03:06 AM
no more injury prone browncos please.

we have 4 capable centers...it's nalens job to lose and lightsaber looks promising.

Every rookie looks promising. We won't know till his first game. Nalen is old and Lich is a rook. I'm just saying it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a vetran for depth.

DenBronx
06-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Every rookie looks promising. We won't know till his first game. Nalen is old and Lich is a rook. I'm just saying it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a vetran for depth.

hmmm, i thought thats why we have hamilton and weigmann for depth? :confused:

broncohead
06-13-2008, 03:20 AM
hmmm, i thought thats why we have hamilton and weigmann for depth? :confused:

Nobody knows how Hamilton will come back and Weigmann is old. I really don't care if we get him but I just want this team to get better and I think he could help.

DenBronx
06-13-2008, 03:22 AM
Nobody knows how Hamilton will come back and Weigmann is old. I really don't care if we get him but I just want this team to get better and I think he could help.

nobody knows if bently is going to come back either, especially after not playing a down in over 2 years.


and weigmann might be old but at least he is reliable.

rcsodak
06-13-2008, 10:05 AM
Yep, that's 1. Too bad for us huh?

:laugh:

No.....


...just you.....

:D

rcsodak
06-13-2008, 10:10 AM
nobody knows if bently is going to come back either, especially after not playing a down in over 2 years.


and weigmann might be old but at least he is reliable.

Bentley will be fine. He was on Sirius, and when asked if he'll be able to play this year, he was pretty emphatic when he said "not IF, NOT IF". I WILL PLAY!!!" or something to that affect.

He's rehabbed, and passed all of the tests of 20's and 40's for the team.

He just didn't feel like he was a part of the team any longer, nor appreciated.

All I know, is whoever signs him, shouldn't have to pay him a nickle, since he didn't play a down and Still made a couple million jack!

TXBRONC
06-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Concussion(sp?) and torn bicep I do believe. I say bring him in. The best players will start, and we need help in the trenches. I'm not crossing off the rooks before they get a shot but why not add competition where we struggled last year?

Unless Shanahan and his staff are concerned that Hamilton and Nalen are not healthy I wouldn't expect them to pick up Bentley.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-13-2008, 05:59 PM
Bentley is not a Brown lol. And he is far from a bust. This guy is a Pro Bowler he just been hurt the last 2 years. Clady, Kuper, Nalen, Bentley, Pears would be a great OL. Bentley plays Guard also guys. Its not like signing him would wipe Nalen out of the picture. Bentley is a Pro Bowl guard and Center. Any team could use great Interior Linemen.

Nature Boy
06-13-2008, 06:21 PM
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports free agent OL LeCharles Bentley would prefer to play guard for his next team.
It's surprising Bentley is already being choosy. He's coming off a bunch of knee surgeries and was apparently timed in the 7s when the Browns asked him to run forties for his physical. He should be willing to play wherever.

Nature Boy
06-13-2008, 06:26 PM
Bentley is finished. His knees are shot. It takes him 7 seconds+ to run the 40 yard dash? and they call that a passed physical? I can run a 7sec 40yd dash hoping on 1 leg.

Bentley may sign a small contract and spend the entire season trying to rehab his knee some more on injured reserve. Why would the Broncos want that?

Requiem / The Dagda
06-13-2008, 06:38 PM
Uh, no thank you.

TXBRONC
06-13-2008, 06:55 PM
Uh, no thank you.

Agreed.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Because a OLinemen runs a pathetic 40 times means pass on him? He passed the Browns Physical you know. Putting your whole stock into a OL 40 time is not very smart.

TXBRONC
06-13-2008, 08:39 PM
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports free agent OL LeCharles Bentley would prefer to play guard for his next team.
It's surprising Bentley is already being choosy. He's coming off a bunch of knee surgeries and was apparently timed in the 7s when the Browns asked him to run forties for his physical. He should be willing to play wherever.


Having a preference isn't the same as throwing out ultimatums. At any rate I would rather Denver pass on him.

Nature Boy
06-14-2008, 03:23 AM
Because a OLinemen runs a pathetic 40 times means pass on him? He passed the Browns Physical you know. Putting your whole stock into a OL 40 time is not very smart.

He's an NFL athlete. No NFL athlete should take 7 seconds to run a 40 yard dash, unless there's something wrong with his wheels. The average NFL Lineman runs a 40yard dash in around 5-5.2sec; Bentley is a full 2 seconds behind. How is Bentley gonna be an effective guard or center if he can't get to the 2nd level to lead block a LB?

Seriously, a 7 second+ 40yard dash is just way too slow to be effective in any level of football, even college.

Remember, Broncos Linemen are famous for being nimble? To be an effective zone blocker, you are required to run out and block guys sometimes 5 yards or more away from the spot of your stance.

Nature Boy
06-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Having a preference isn't the same as throwing out ultimatums. At any rate I would rather Denver pass on him.

Tx, go email Adam Schefter and point that out to him. I only quoted exactly what he wrote.

I personally don't mind that a player make demands so long as they can live up to their demands. I'm not one of those guys who label a player a bad seed or a locker room cancer just because he is outspoken. I think the labeling of a player a "cancer" is overused on these football fan boards.

TXBRONC
06-14-2008, 10:21 AM
Tx, go email Adam Schefter and point that out to him. I only quoted exactly what he wrote.

I personally don't mind that a player make demands so long as they can live up to their demands. I'm not one of those guys who label a player a bad seed or a locker room cancer just because he is outspoken. I think the labeling of a player a "cancer" is overused on these football fan boards.

Hey that's Schefter's words that fine, I guess that's who I would have small disagreement with. Still I don't think we need Bentley, because we have veteran back center in Wiegmann should Nalen go down. We also have Hamilton who is a natural center and Lichtensteiger although I think he could easily end up on the practice squad. That's not because he lacks talent but because of roster space and for pedagogical purposes.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 01:16 PM
He's an NFL athlete. No NFL athlete should take 7 seconds to run a 40 yard dash, unless there's something wrong with his wheels. The average NFL Lineman runs a 40yard dash in around 5-5.2sec; Bentley is a full 2 seconds behind. How is Bentley gonna be an effective guard or center if he can't get to the 2nd level to lead block a LB?

Seriously, a 7 second+ 40yard dash is just way too slow to be effective in any level of football, even college.

Remember, Broncos Linemen are famous for being nimble? To be an effective zone blocker, you are required to run out and block guys sometimes 5 yards or more away from the spot of your stance.

LMAO @ putting all your eggs in the basket over a OLinemens 40 times. Do you not realize hes not in football shape? Do you not realize he has not played a snap in 2 years? How many OLinemen can not play a down for 2 years and come out and run a 40 time? Please dont tell me about Broncos linemen are meant to be nimble. Holland was somebody SHanny had huge hopes for and he was what? 330? Bentley is a Pro Bowl G/C. And to be honest i didnt see alot of zone blocking last year...... But lets round it up, We Broncos fans cry about not being able to run in the redzone because our OL is too light and weak, However when we have a shot at a Pro Bowl G/C who has brute strenght and is athletic when healthy we want to pass him up for Casey Weigmann? :eek::confused::rolleyes::lol: Oh and Broncos will always use some zone blocking but Shanny is obviously building a power/ athletic OL now. Cutler is a pocket passer, Why do you think we drafted Clady? While hes good in the run game hes going to be an Fantastic Pass blocker for Jay. I expect the Broncos to air it out alot more when this OL gels. Then pound it in the RedZone.

dogfish
06-14-2008, 01:45 PM
FTR, clady is a prototypical zone blocker-- he said before the draft that he hoped to go to a team that runs that scheme. . . i see no evidence that we're changing it any time soon. . . .

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 02:42 PM
FTR, clady is a prototypical zone blocker-- he said before the draft that he hoped to go to a team that runs that scheme. . . i see no evidence that we're changing it any time soon. . . .

How many Boots did you see Cutler running last year? Not many. Clady fits whatever we want to do, But his passs protection is so great. Give cutler a nice pocket and see how accurate and effective he will be this year. Cutlers a drop back passer who just so happen to be able to run. I love the potential of the offense if the OL holds up as i think it will.

MOtorboat
06-14-2008, 03:31 PM
How many Boots did you see Cutler running last year? Not many. Clady fits whatever we want to do, But his passs protection is so great. Give cutler a nice pocket and see how accurate and effective he will be this year. Cutlers a drop back passer who just so happen to be able to run. I love the potential of the offense if the OL holds up as i think it will.

Zone blocking has little, if nothing, to do with the bootlegs. The bootleg play is easily run while using the zbs, but it doesn't have to be called. And that doesn't mean that the zbs system was changed last year, because it wasn't, and I don't expect it to be changed this year, either.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Lol wow so we ran zone blocking alot last year right? Watch Selvin Young highlight please. http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbFQzOgSOWE&feature=related

Obviously on more than 90% of his big runs and even short runs on these clips were NOT zone blocking plays. This was moreless power. Pay attention to the holes and where the OLinemen end up on the tape. This is exactly why Cutler was dropping back more off play actions. When you have a QB who can make every throw on the field you want more of a power OL so he can be a drop back passer and use more of the field. You always want the Defense to feel they need to cover the whole field. But just watch the youtube video. It shows that we will always use it, But its not all about the zone blocking in Denver anymore.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 03:45 PM
By the way Selvin Young is a beast. I hope he can carry the load.

MOtorboat
06-14-2008, 03:51 PM
Lol wow so we ran zone blocking alot last year right? Watch Selvin Young highlight please. http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbFQzOgSOWE&feature=related

Obviously on more than 90% of his big runs and even short runs on these clips were NOT zone blocking plays. This was moreless power. Pay attention to the holes and where the OLinemen end up on the tape. This is exactly why Cutler was dropping back more off play actions. When you have a QB who can make every throw on the field you want more of a power OL so he can be a drop back passer and use more of the field. You always want the Defense to feel they need to cover the whole field. But just watch the youtube video. It shows that we will always use it, But its not all about the zone blocking in Denver anymore.

Do you know what zone blocking is?

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Do you know what zone blocking is?

:confused::lol: Does that mean you dont understand what you were looking for in those videos?

MOtorboat
06-14-2008, 04:04 PM
:confused::lol: Does that mean you dont understand what you were looking for in those videos?

Um...I saw zone blocking.

It broke down on a few plays, and yes, you're right, a draw doesn't necessarily incorporate zone blocking, but most of those plays were zone blocking plays, so I'm not sure what you saw.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 04:16 PM
I saw the ZBS system aswell as i admitted. But majority of t hose plays were guys simply getting blown backwards up the field. Something we could not do when we got in the redzone and things got tighter. Even more reason to keep putting a emphasis on power running. Its definitly a blend but the power was the biggest piece of the pie last year.

MOtorboat
06-14-2008, 04:28 PM
I saw the ZBS system aswell as i admitted. But majority of t hose plays were guys simply getting blown backwards up the field. Something we could not do when we got in the redzone and things got tighter. Even more reason to keep putting a emphasis on power running. Its definitly a blend but the power was the biggest piece of the pie last year.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

Yes, our offensive line needs to not get blown off the point of contact, but that doesn't mean we won't be using a zbs, or that we didn't use the zbs last year.

Are you stating that there is no power in a zbs? Because, that's not correct, either.

Nature Boy
06-14-2008, 06:35 PM
LMAO @ putting all your eggs in the basket over a OLinemens 40 times. Do you not realize hes not in football shape? Do you not realize he has not played a snap in 2 years? How many OLinemen can not play a down for 2 years and come out and run a 40 time? Please dont tell me about Broncos linemen are meant to be nimble. Holland was somebody SHanny had huge hopes for and he was what? 330? Bentley is a Pro Bowl G/C. And to be honest i didnt see alot of zone blocking last year...... But lets round it up, We Broncos fans cry about not being able to run in the redzone because our OL is too light and weak, However when we have a shot at a Pro Bowl G/C who has brute strenght and is athletic when healthy we want to pass him up for Casey Weigmann? :eek::confused::rolleyes::lol: Oh and Broncos will always use some zone blocking but Shanny is obviously building a power/ athletic OL now. Cutler is a pocket passer, Why do you think we drafted Clady? While hes good in the run game hes going to be an Fantastic Pass blocker for Jay. I expect the Broncos to air it out alot more when this OL gels. Then pound it in the RedZone.

Haha, you just proved my points. Bentley hasn't played for 2 years. He is out of shape and his knees are shot. End of story, why is it so hard for you to understand that Bentley isn't the player he was in 2005?

And just cause Holland is 330lbs does not mean he is not nimble footed. From what I've read, Holland is a great zone blocker who gets out to his blocking assignments like no other.

As far as running the zone run blocking scheme. Last I checked, we have the same coaches and schemes in the running game. I'm pretty sure we were not a power run team last year.

Nature Boy
06-14-2008, 06:43 PM
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

Yes, our offensive line needs to not get blown off the point of contact, but that doesn't mean we won't be using a zbs, or that we didn't use the zbs last year.

Are you stating that there is no power in a zbs? Because, that's not correct, either.

I think what CasinoRoyal is really trying to do is defend his position of wanting Bentley in Denver where most of us disagree.

Zero snap in 2 years, broken wheels, runs 7s in the 40, No thanks.

We might as well resign Sam Adams and have him play C/OG.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
06-14-2008, 07:16 PM
Haha, you just proved my points. Bentley hasn't played for 2 years. He is out of shape and his knees are shot. End of story, why is it so hard for you to understand that Bentley isn't the player he was in 2005?

And just cause Holland is 330lbs does not mean he is not nimble footed. From what I've read, Holland is a great zone blocker who gets out to his blocking assignments like no other.

As far as running the zone run blocking scheme. Last I checked, we have the same coaches and schemes in the running game. I'm pretty sure we were not a power run team last year.

Holland has nimble feet like no other? Is that what we all witnessed last year? Is that why his name is not even mentioned in any interviews with the coaches this year? As it what last year? Your talking about i made your point when i actually shut your point down. Nobody coming off 2 years of being inactive is going to come in and run a good 40 dude. Let alone an OLinemen. How are his knees shocked when he just passed the Browns physical? The only reason they didnt keep him is because there OL was great without him. No need to break up chemistry there.

Nature Boy
06-14-2008, 07:31 PM
Casino, I really don't know what you're jabbering about. Holland gets nothing but praises from coaches and just because the coaches havn't mentioned him does not mean he's fallen off. He's a shoe in for starting RG position, ink that in your notes. Despite his size, the coaches say he's a great blocker in our ZBS cause he moves well and is pretty smart.

As far as Bentley goes, no you never proved any points other than why you think Bentley is so immobile. Which only supported my points to why Bentley is not wanted in Denver. His wheels are broken and he hasn't played a down in over 2 years.

Why would we want a fat, slow lineman with Broken wheels when we already have Nalen and Hamilton coming back? On top of that, we don't have the roster space, cap space and other more pressing needs. I think we are done with this debate.

rcsodak
06-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Tx, go email Adam Schefter and point that out to him. I only quoted exactly what he wrote.

I personally don't mind that a player make demands so long as they can live up to their demands. I'm not one of those guys who label a player a bad seed or a locker room cancer just because he is outspoken. I think the labeling of a player a "cancer" is overused on these football fan boards.
Where's it show you "quoted exactly what he wrote."? All I see is Schefter's name thrown out there. Learn how to actually quote somebody if you're going to get your panties in a wad when a post of yours is replied to.

Stargazer
06-16-2008, 02:37 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbFQzOgSOWE&feature=related


The music is f'n terrible.

Nature Boy
06-16-2008, 04:29 AM
Where's it show you "quoted exactly what he wrote."? All I see is Schefter's name thrown out there. Learn how to actually quote somebody if you're going to get your panties in a wad when a post of yours is replied to.

You might wanna undo your's before you butt in and get on my case. In other words, "get off these nutz." There, is that enough quoting for you?