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rcsodak
06-05-2008, 07:36 PM
Coach was on Sirius today and had a very good interview. He was open about the 'spermdonor', and that when asked to do "the little things", like off season conditioning, ota participation, etc., and didn't help with team chemistry. T'Hen just didn't show it.

Lynch asked to be given the opportunity to show he could be a 1st/2nd/3rd down player...Shanny said he couldn't promise anything, and that he'd have to prove himeself just like a rookie.

He thinks SYoung has what it takes to make a big splash in the league....as long as he stays healthy.

He says Cutler just sucked it up last year, even though he lost 30+ lbs...and has gained it all back plus some. He thinks this will be his break out year...as it's his 3rd in the league.

He thinks Walker is a very good receiver, but he wasn't convinced on the health of his leg...and the team chemistry thing, again.

He thinks BMarsh will be 100% by camp in july...and that he'll have a break out year.

Schefller should be back next monday. And that both TE's will have good years. And that Graham is a better pass catcher than people give him credit for.

They over-used Stokely last year, thinks he's the BEST 3rd down WR he's ever coached :eek: He's hoping Royal can spell him some this year, and thinks very highly of him.

Thinks Clady is ready for the Hall of Fame....

(jokingly)

Thinks the Oline is much improved over last year, even though they avg'd. 4.6ypc.

Says Robertson is looking fantastic in OTA, and his wrist is healed. Thinks Slowik will have the D back to their pre-Bates form...and once again have a top-5 defense.


Not mentioned: Hillis, Aldridge, Spencer, LB's, CB's.

Was fun to listen to him.

Watchthemiddle
06-05-2008, 07:39 PM
Thanks for sharing..:beer:

Skinny
06-05-2008, 08:06 PM
"Pre-Bates"??

:frusty:

Fan in Exile
06-05-2008, 09:32 PM
"Pre-Bates"??

:frusty:

I'm hoping he meant pre-Bates in the ranking only and not in the 4th quarter can't keep a lead safe kind of way, or in a we're giving up 40 to Indy in a post-season loss way.

Requiem / The Dagda
06-05-2008, 09:36 PM
The best part about it was his talk of Ryan Torain's new touchdown dance. As he crosses the goal, he takes the ball, hides it behind is back, squats down and drops it down in front of the goal post. It's going to be hot. It'll even be better on Glenn Dorsey's face.

scott.475
06-05-2008, 11:39 PM
The best part about it was his talk of Ryan Torain's new touchdown dance. As he crosses the goal, he takes the ball, hides it behind is back, squats down and drops it down in front of the goal post. It's going to be hot. It'll even be better on Glenn Dorsey's face.

Please, please tell me your not serious.

dogfish
06-06-2008, 02:25 AM
He thinks BMarsh will be 100% by camp in july...and that he'll have a break out year.


100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

Watchthemiddle
06-06-2008, 02:33 AM
100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

Could of fooled me. Maybe we will see a 2,000 yard WR this year.

Skinny
06-06-2008, 05:58 AM
I'm hoping he meant pre-Bates in the ranking onlyI hope so too.
and not in the 4th quarter can't keep a lead safe kind of way, or in a we're giving up 40 to Indy in a post-season loss way.Yeah, let's hope he did'nt forget the reason Bates was here in the first place.

GEM
06-06-2008, 10:43 AM
RC, what station number is it on? I have Sirius in my Nitro, but don't go through them a whole lot.

Thanks!

BroncoFanatic
06-06-2008, 11:10 AM
100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

That was my first thought, seems to me he has already broken out :whoknows:

Kaylore
06-06-2008, 11:17 AM
100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

That's what I was thinking! How many yards does one need to have to break out? He's only the third receiver in NFL history to get that kind of yardage his second year in the league!

BroncoJoe
06-06-2008, 11:22 AM
RC, what station number is it on? I have Sirius in my Nitro, but don't go through them a whole lot.

Thanks!

I think it's 124 for the NFL channel

GEM
06-06-2008, 11:27 AM
I think it's 124 for the NFL channel

Thanks Joe! :salute:

Lonestar
06-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Do you really expect anything from mikeys lips that is not half bull shit? ..as one of our members would say blah blah blah.

shank
06-06-2008, 04:02 PM
He says Cutler just sucked it up last year, even though he lost 30+ lbs...and has gained it all back plus some. He thinks this will be his break out year...as it's his 3rd in the league.



shanny said cutler sucked?

dogfish
06-06-2008, 08:31 PM
shanny said cutler sucked?

i'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you misread the quote. . . he said cutler "sucked it up," referring to playing with the diabetes and the weight loss. . . as in "you're not hurt that bad, suck it up and get back out there"-- not as in "he was just sucking it up all over the field-- we didn't have a chance to win with him playing like that". . . clear as mud? :laugh:

TXBRONC
06-06-2008, 09:10 PM
100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

Maybe last year was just scratching the surface of what kind of talent Marshall has. :noidea:

Skinny
06-06-2008, 09:18 PM
Maybe last year was just scratching the surface of what kind of talent Marshall has. :noidea:Jay's health could have a big impact on Marshall bettering his performance from last year, considering what Jay was going through with his diabetes. I could see having Jay at full strength boosting Marshalls game, no doubt.

Tned
06-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Do you really expect anything from mikeys lips that is not half bull shit? ..as one of our members would say blah blah blah.

We aren't all quite so jaded about Shanahan.

Lonestar
06-06-2008, 09:32 PM
We aren't all quite so jaded about Shanahan.

I must have missed the koolade party and orange colored glasses when they were handed out.:laugh:

BeefStew25
06-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I must have missed the koolade party and orange colored glasses when they were handed out.:laugh:

You must have.

yardog
06-06-2008, 09:37 PM
You must have.

That or he's Zam's brother.

Tned
06-06-2008, 09:54 PM
I must have missed the koolade party and orange colored glasses when they were handed out.:laugh:

lol, yea you were at the hemlock on the rocks with a twist of cynicism party...

Lonestar
06-06-2008, 09:57 PM
lol, yea you were at the hemlock on the rocks with a twist of cynicism party...

even better.. finally a sense of humor.. thought I'd never get it out of you..

Tned
06-06-2008, 10:58 PM
even better.. finally a sense of humor.. thought I'd never get it out of you..

I take my Broncos sirius... ;)

broncophan
06-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Do you really expect anything from mikeys lips that is not half bull shit? ..as one of our members would say blah blah blah.

lol.....Yea....I expected him to say...."I am an idiot for benching a veteran qb, when his team was 7-4....for a rookie qb from a loser of a school like Vanderbilt........see what an idiot I am 2 years later.....our team is even worse than I ever thought they could be........and now we don't have any established running attack to help our young qb.........and oh.....I also thought it was a GREAT idea not to sign our field goal kicker who helped this franchise win many games over the years......my boy from Vandy will pick up the slack......hang on fans...things will get uglier before they get better.

C'mon Mikey......out with the truth.

Lonestar
06-07-2008, 10:19 AM
lol.....Yea....I expected him to say...."I am an idiot for benching a veteran qb, when his team was 7-4....for a rookie qb from a loser of a school like Vanderbilt........see what an idiot I am 2 years later.....our team is even worse than I ever thought they could be........and now we don't have any established running attack to help our young qb.........and oh.....I also thought it was a GREAT idea not to sign our field goal kicker who helped this franchise win many games over the years......my boy from Vandy will pick up the slack......hang on fans...things will get uglier before they get better.

C'mon Mikey......out with the truth.

Yep thats what he should have said..

He really knew that Jay was not gonna "give us the best chance to win" had he just been truthful and said this is a shit box team with lots of issues mostly OLINE, RB and DL problems we are gonna address in the off season and we want to get Jay as much playing time as we can.

I'd bet everyone would have said good for you for admitting the truth lets move on.. Everyone that was realistic knew that was happening anyway.. at least he would have had some credibility..

If they would have made the playoffs then he would have been the mastermind AGAIN..

broncophan
06-07-2008, 11:40 AM
Yep thats what he should have said..

He really knew that Jay was not gonna "give us the best chance to win" had he just been truthful and said this is a shit box team with lots of issues mostly OLINE, RB and DL problems we are gonna address in the off season and we want to get Jay as much playing time as we can.

I'd bet everyone would have said good for you for admitting the truth lets move on.. Everyone that was realistic knew that was happening anyway.. at least he would have had some credibility..

If they would have made the playoffs then he would have been the mastermind AGAIN..

You got it.....Have to hope for the best......sadly...this organization has slipped to the level of "just another NFL team".....in my opinion.....and being a fan for 30 years....I have never felt that way.......

Not blaming Shanahan completely..I appreciate what he did/has done for the broncos ...but how does the organization allow things that have happened...many off the field issues that we never used to hear, former players bad-mouthing the organization, getting players like Travis Henry..........who had alot of "baggage" already before coming to Denver,letting Elam get away, drafting Clarett....IN THE 3RD ROUND...throwing away a winning season by benching a proven veteran qb........poor drafts almost every year.......many other issues.....

It's sad...people I work with here in Ohio.....who don't know alot about the broncos.........ask me why the broncos have fallen the past 3 or 4 years.....why are players getting in trouble off the field.....never had to answer questions like that before.

When fans of other teams make comments like that.....you know the broncos have huge issues.

Another 7-9 season....and Shanahan will have all the time in the world to spend on SIRIUS radio.......

PatricktheDookie
06-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Oh god, not another Clarett complaint. I'll say it one last time, in caps so everyone notices:

WE WERE NOT THE ONLY TEAM INTERESTED IN CLARETT.

Post-draft indications were that Clarett would have gone early in the 4th round, so there were other teams who had Clarett valued in that area. You make it sound like he was nuts to pick Clarett. It didn't work out, but I'm glad he had the guts to pick the player he wanted.

Requiem / The Dagda
06-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Dallas was the only other team. . .

broncophan
06-07-2008, 12:53 PM
Oh god, not another Clarett complaint. I'll say it one last time, in caps so everyone notices:

WE WERE NOT THE ONLY TEAM INTERESTED IN CLARETT.

Post-draft indications were that Clarett would have gone early in the 4th round, so there were other teams who had Clarett valued in that area. You make it sound like he was nuts to pick Clarett. It didn't work out, but I'm glad he had the guts to pick the player he wanted.

I'm well aware that we were not the only team interested in Clarett.....I also know he was a projected 3rd or 4th rounder....and that Parcells and Dallas would have probably picked him.....whatever....I don't care

Please tell me how I make it sound like he was nuts to pick Clarett???......it was a poor decision.....that's a fact......sure hindsight is 20/20....the last few years there has been alot more poor decisions than good decisions.

Guts????......the last thing the broncos needed at the time was a running back.....not to mention a third round risk on nothing but trouble.....You call that guts.....I call that another poor draft pick wasted.

shank
06-07-2008, 02:31 PM
i remember mariucci saying how impressed he was with clarett when they interviewed him, when asked to name the most impressive interview he's had. said his football knowledge was extremely good.

Tned
06-07-2008, 04:01 PM
If I read the schedule right, Shanny is supposed to be interviewed tonight on Chalk Talk (sirius radio). Chalk talk starts at 9 PM Eastern, but they don't specify what time he will be on.

Lonestar
06-07-2008, 07:00 PM
Oh god, not another Clarett complaint. I'll say it one last time, in caps so everyone notices:

WE WERE NOT THE ONLY TEAM INTERESTED IN CLARETT.

Post-draft indications were that Clarett would have gone early in the 4th round, so there were other teams who had Clarett valued in that area. You make it sound like he was nuts to pick Clarett. It didn't work out, but I'm glad he had the guts to pick the player he wanted.


I'm well aware that we were not the only team interested in Clarett.....I also know he was a projected 3rd or 4th rounder....and that Parcells and Dallas would have probably picked him.....whatever....I don't care

Please tell me how I make it sound like he was nuts to pick Clarett???......it was a poor decision.....that's a fact......sure hindsight is 20/20....the last few years there has been alot more poor decisions than good decisions.

Guts????......the last thing the broncos needed at the time was a running back.....not to mention a third round risk on nothing but trouble.....You call that guts.....I call that another poor draft pick wasted.


Hmm Marion Barber was still on the board as was Darren Sproles, Chris Canty, all taken in the 4th, Bo Scaife an ex DEN boy.. would have saved us from picking much injured Scheffler.

Face it mikey took ANOTHER FLYER, the only thing that did not blow up in his face was he was stupid enough to sign a really weak contract with almost nothing but incentives in it..

The only thing that saved mikey ass in that draft was taking a KR specialist that happened to be a better CB than Laws and the other two dedicated CB he took that year..

Other than that 05 was a bust IMO..

Tned
06-07-2008, 08:06 PM
He's on again right now. I think probably a repeat of yesterday's, but I am not sure. Sounds like Adam Schein and Solomon Wilcox interviewing him.

TXBRONC
06-07-2008, 08:10 PM
He's on again right now. I think probably a repeat of yesterday's, but I am not sure. Sounds like Adam Schein and Solomon Wilcox interviewing him.

I hope you have the time to take good notes I'm interested in hearing what they have to say.

Tned
06-07-2008, 08:20 PM
I hope you have the time to take good notes I'm interested in hearing what they have to say.

It is a repeat and RC's notes above are pretty good.

He says that Marshall has as much potential as any WR he has been around, and that he has been around HOF WR's. He said the two FA's (Colbert/Keary -- drawing a blank) will compete for the spot opposite Marshall and he thinks either one can start and produce.

Graham is dominant blocker and better receiver than given credit for, should produce in the second year in the system. Scheff will produce if healthy.

Rod Smith -- He was messing around with the players yesterday. Mike is trying to get him to come in and help out on the staff in some way. He just showed up this week to talk to some of the players.

TXBRONC
06-07-2008, 08:47 PM
It is a repeat and RC's notes above are pretty good.

He says that Marshall has as much potential as any WR he has been around, and that he has been around HOF WR's. He said the two FA's (Colbert/Keary -- drawing a blank) will compete for the spot opposite Marshall and he thinks either one can start and produce.

Graham is dominant blocker and better receiver than given credit for, should produce in the second year in the system. Scheff will produce if healthy.

Rod Smith -- He was messing around with the players yesterday. Mike is trying to get him to come in and help out on the staff in some way. He just showed up this week to talk to some of the players.


The guy you're drawing a blank on is Darrell Jackson. :2thumbs:

rcsodak
06-08-2008, 02:13 PM
100 catches for 1,300 yards isn't a breakout season?


:confused:

Guess that should tell us something about what they feel BMarsh has to offer?;)

rcsodak
06-08-2008, 02:21 PM
Dallas was the only other team. . .

lol. You act like you know that to be a fact. :rolleyes:

Just because they were the ONLY one mentioned to be interested, doesn't mean there weren't others. Only a maroon would think only 2 teams of 32 were interested in him.

And to the Clarett argument, since Denver didn't have a 4th rounder, Shanny didn't have much choice in the matter.

Ya'll need to move on....geez.

Requiem / The Dagda
06-08-2008, 02:56 PM
lol. You act like you know that to be a fact. :rolleyes:

Just because they were the ONLY one mentioned to be interested, doesn't mean there weren't others. Only a maroon would think only 2 teams of 32 were interested in him.

And to the Clarett argument, since Denver didn't have a 4th rounder, Shanny didn't have much choice in the matter.

Ya'll need to move on....geez.

Chris Mortenson reported prior to the draft that more than three fourths of all NFL teams had taken Maurice Clarett off their draft boards; just as he reported that most all teams had removed Marcus Thomas from their respective boards in 2007. Furthermore, it was also stated that Dallas was the only other team interested in taking him as high as the fourth round in the draft.

That means there were eight teams at best, who were interested in drafting him acccording to Mortenson's reports. Dallas and Denver are two of them, so that left six other teams (at best, which we don't know) that would have been interested in drafting him. Not very overwhelming, and it's pretty obvious that nobody besides Dallas and Denver were interested in taking him with a partially high draft choice.

Denver absolutely blew the selection with Marion Barber III on the board. Ted Sundquist lied through his mouth saying that Barber III wasn't worth the selection because he had lingering hamstring problems; which was a ton of BS because Barber III only had one hamstring injury in his whole time with the Golden Gophers. It's bullshit like that on top of everything else that caused Sundquist to get canned.

I don't see why people seem to live in denial in regards to Clarett. The front office blew it big time. They had their chance at drafting a running back who was a perfect fit for their offense in Barber who is now a Pro-Bowler with the Dallas Cowboys, but instead gambled and took Maurice Clarett. You don't gamble with compensatory picks like that, and you don't make up BS excuses like Sundquist did to try and make up for how bad the pick was.

It's even more BS considering the fact that Denver has never let major injury problems impact who they've selected early on. Paul T., Darius W., Jarvis M., George F., Willie M., etc. were all second or first round picks who had serious injury concerns coming out of college, but they still drafted them high.

Some things are just inexcusable, and drafting Clarett over Barber III was one of the worst decisions ever made in the history of the draft. I can still remember watching it in my living room and choking on my food and drink when the selection came up. Nobody could believe the selection.

There's a reason Clarett was taken off 3/4's of the boards in the NFL; and that only two teams were reported as being interested in taking him with a decent selection. There's also a reason why Barber III is a Pro-Bowler and one of the best, physical running backs in the NFL while Clarett is what, serving jail-time? Give me a break.

dogfish
06-08-2008, 02:59 PM
And to the Clarett argument, since Denver didn't have a 4th rounder, Shanny didn't have much choice in the matter.




what? :confused:



sure he had a choice-- the choice of not drafting the useless turd. . . .

Tned
06-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Guess that should tell us something about what they feel BMarsh has to offer?;)

Well, as you heard when listening to the interview, Shanny said something like, "I have been around a lot of HOF receivers (then he named a couple Rice for sure, but another I think), and Brandon has the talent to be better than all of them" or something like that.

Now, we have all heard stuff like this before. Shanny, like us fans, is not beyond getting caught up in the "P" word (potential), but yes, he clearly think Marshall can be something special.

He also said that Brandon's work ethic on the field is not a problem. He said something like nobody works harder in practice and preparing, or something like that. This was in relation to Champs and Cutler's comments being brought up to Shanny. Shanahan went out of his way to seperate the off the field stuff from the effort Marshal puts in during practice and games.

Lonestar
06-08-2008, 06:05 PM
Well, as you heard when listening to the interview, Shanny said something like, "I have been around a lot of HOF receivers (then he named a couple Rice for sure, but another I think), and Brandon has the talent to be better than all of them" or something like that.

Now, we have all heard stuff like this before. Shanny, like us fans, is not beyond getting caught up in the "P" word (potential), but yes, he clearly think Marshall can be something special.

He also said that Brandon's work ethic on the field is not a problem. He said something like nobody works harder in practice and preparing, or something like that. This was in relation to Champs and Cutler's comments being brought up to Shanny. Shanahan went out of his way to seperate the off the field stuff from the effort Marshal puts in during practice and games.

good post lets hope that he fully recovers from boneheadedness.. and his arm issue..

rcsodak
06-11-2008, 12:39 AM
what? :confused:



sure he had a choice-- the choice of not drafting the useless turd. . . .

Hey....


...one man's "turd" is another man's.......ummmm.....Snickers???:confused:

rcsodak
06-11-2008, 12:46 AM
what? :confused:



sure he had a choice-- the choice of not drafting the useless turd. . . .

That wasn't the "choice" to which I was speaking, dog. It was purely to the argument of "the 3rd round". Frankly, if he'd worked out, Shanny would be heralded as a genius again. You know it. They know it. I know.
It didn't, nothing lost, nothing gained....so time to mooooooove on.
Having picked Barber instead WOULDN'T have won any more games, imho.

I guess if ya'll want to argue to that point, "let loose the hounds"....... :rolleyes:

rcsodak
06-11-2008, 12:49 AM
Well, as you heard when listening to the interview, Shanny said something like, "I have been around a lot of HOF receivers (then he named a couple Rice for sure, but another I think), and Brandon has the talent to be better than all of them" or something like that.

Now, we have all heard stuff like this before. Shanny, like us fans, is not beyond getting caught up in the "P" word (potential), but yes, he clearly think Marshall can be something special.

He also said that Brandon's work ethic on the field is not a problem. He said something like nobody works harder in practice and preparing, or something like that. This was in relation to Champs and Cutler's comments being brought up to Shanny. Shanahan went out of his way to seperate the off the field stuff from the effort Marshal puts in during practice and games.

True...plus some of the accolades he was passing out to "Brandon" I might have cornfused with Stokely........I'd have to hear it again.

:beer: to hoping Both Brandons can whoop some booty this year!!!!

omac
06-11-2008, 01:24 AM
Bo Scaife an ex DEN boy.. would have saved us from picking much injured Scheffler.

You'd take Scaife over Scheffler? Are you kidding? Even an injured Scheffler outproduces Scaife. In 3 years, Scaife's gotten 2, 2, and 1 TDs; in 2 years, Scheff's gotten 4 and 5 TDs, with much less playing time. You'd rather take Scaife? I'm pretty sure with all of Tennessee's catch dropping woes, they'd take Scheffler in a heartbeat, as most teams would.

rcsodak
06-11-2008, 01:34 AM
You'd take Scaife over Scheffler? Are you kidding? Even an injured Scheffler outproduces Scaife. In 3 years, Scaife's gotten 2, 2, and 1 TDs; in 2 years, Scheff's gotten 4 and 5 TDs, with much less playing time. You'd rather take Scaife? I'm pretty sure with all of Tennessee's catch dropping woes, they'd take Scheffler in a heartbeat, as most teams would.

One texan sticking up for another is all, methinks......


....right, jr? :D

dogfish
06-11-2008, 01:58 AM
Having picked Barber instead WOULDN'T have won any more games, imho.

I guess if ya'll want to argue to that point, "let loose the hounds"....... :rolleyes:



you don't think one of the top three goal line backs in the NFL would have been pretty useful to a team that has been horrendous in the red zone the past few seasons?



you're right though, it's pretty much a moot point now. . . . the less said about that bum clarett, the better. . . .

rcsodak
06-12-2008, 09:59 PM
you don't think one of the top three goal line backs in the NFL would have been pretty useful to a team that has been horrendous in the red zone the past few seasons?



you're right though, it's pretty much a moot point now. . . . the less said about that bum clarett, the better. . . .

It depends, dog....


....do you consider Denver's Oline equal to that of Dallas? ;)

shank
06-12-2008, 10:02 PM
mike bell has a knack for finding the endzone