Random NBA Thoughts

[Retired_Member_001]

Just post your random NBA thoughts here as well as videos and all of that.

Ok, here's what I really wanted to post. Look at this flop by Bowen:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff306/hubble2016/Kobe20On20Duncan.gif

:laugh:

[Northman]

Blazers own everyone.

[Retired_Member_001]

Blazers own everyone.

Except all the other teams. :laugh:

Actually the Blazers future is pretty bright even without Oden.

[Northman]

Except all the other teams. :laugh:

Actually the Blazers future is pretty bright even without Oden.


We are Champions in our own mind. And yes, it does look like our future might be turning the corner finally. :D

[Poet]

I think we're about to see a resurgence of the Princeton Offense.

[BroncoWave]

Who the hell is Retired_Member_001?

[slim]

Who the hell is Retired_Member_001?

Some loser. I bet he loves Thom Brady, though

[NightTrainLayne]

Who the hell is Retired_Member_001?

Tubby.

[slim]

Tubby.

You lie!!

[Dapper Dan]

I've been enjoying old games on youtube.

[MOtorboat]

Tell me I’m not the only one watching “The Last Dance.” This is amazing.

[BroncoWave]

Tell me I’m not the only one watching “The Last Dance.” This is amazing.

Been glued to every second of every one so far. Even my wife has been into it.

[MOtorboat]

Been glued to every second of every one so far. Even my wife has been into it.

I know you’re too young to witness most of this coherently. Seeing this all again is kind of a shock to the system. He was so good.

I keep watching him in the air, and I know I was cognizant of this, but to see him hang there a split second longer than everyone else really is/was something to behold.

[BroncoWave]

I know you’re too young to witness most of this coherently. Seeing this all again is kind of a shock to the system. He was so good.

I keep watching him in the air, and I know I was cognizant of this, but to see him hang there a split second longer than everyone else really is/was something to behold.

Yeah, I remember the late 90s teams but I wasn't super into basketball as a kid, so the memories were pretty vague.

[BroncoWave]

"How bout dem Broncos" -Michael Jordan

[aberdien]

Last Dance is ******* great.

Why would they sit on that footage for this long though...did they know there was gonna be a pandemic and people would be suffering through a life without sports in 2020 and would need this series?

[MOtorboat]

Last Dance is ******* great.

Why would they sit on that footage for this long though...did they know there was gonna be a pandemic and people would be suffering through a life without sports in 2020 and would need this series?

It’s all hinged on Michael Jordan’s approval. ESPN didn’t sit on it, they’ve been waiting for years. Bill Simmons wanted it to be one of the original 30/30s.

[aberdien]

Well it's great. MJ chose a great time to release it.

I was never a huge basketball fan but over the last few years, and with the help of this doc, I think the drama in the NBA is probs the best.

[Hawgdriver]

What platform?

[MOtorboat]

What platform?

The Mothership.

[Hawgdriver]

Holy fvk.

[BroncoWave]

It’s all hinged on Michael Jordan’s approval. ESPN didn’t sit on it, they’ve been waiting for years. Bill Simmons wanted it to be one of the original 30/30s.

Did you hear Bill and Ryan's completely ridiculous take today that Rodman was boring and shouldn't have had an episode dedicated to him? They had to have just been being contrary for the sake of being contrary right? If Dennis Rodman is boring, who exactly is interesting?

[MOtorboat]

Did you hear Bill and Ryan's completely ridiculous take today that Rodman was boring and shouldn't have had an episode dedicated to him? They had to have just been being contrary for the sake of being contrary right? If Dennis Rodman is boring, who exactly is interesting?

I have not listened to it. That’s a little weird.

[aberdien]

Dennis Rodman is a cool character. He was maybe the most interesting part of that episode - learning about his upbringing and then how Phil Jackson was able to find a way to reach him.

Also didn't know he went to college in Oklahoma.

[MOtorboat]

I might have stayed in Vegas with Carmen Elektra.

[aberdien]

I love that the Detroit/Chicago rivalry is alive and well

Don’t buy into Michael Jordan’s narrative: The ‘Bad Boys’ Pistons deserve your respect
https://sports.yahoo.com/dont-buy-into-michael-jordans-narrative-the-bad-boys-pistons-deserve-your-respect-154544792.html


Jordan and the Bulls appear like the more mature bunch in the way it was framed, but the Jordan-sanctioned documentary misses a very important point that led to the walk-off.

“The Pistons are undeserving champions,” Jordan said on the day between Games 3 and 4 in Detroit in 1991. “The Bad Boys are bad for basketball.”

In that moment, Jordan reduced the Pistons to thugs, not as champions who had to plow their way through the toughest road in a golden era. Sure, Jordan shook the Pistons’ hands in the years before, but his words invalidated those actions.

[NightTrainLayne]

Last Dance is ******* great.

Why would they sit on that footage for this long though...did they know there was gonna be a pandemic and people would be suffering through a life without sports in 2020 and would need this series?

Funny you should ask, but yes, that was exactly their plan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzOVqClci_s

[MOtorboat]

That’s the best joke NTL has ever made.

[Hawgdriver]

goosebumps

[BroncoWave]

I have not listened to it. That’s a little weird.

Bill then doubled down on it on Twitter and is getting an all time ratio over it. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard he or Ryen say.

[aberdien]

That’s the best joke NTL has ever made.

Technically, it was Kenny Mayne who made the joke. NTL is our Carlos Mencia.

[MOtorboat]

Technically, it was Kenny Mayne who made the joke. NTL is our Carlos Mencia.

That’s harsh. NTL had the deadpan one liner to set it up.

[MOtorboat]

At worst, NTL is Daniel Tosh here.

[NightTrainLayne]

At worst, NTL is Daniel Tosh here.

I'll settle for that!

[MOtorboat]

Bill then doubled down on it on Twitter and is getting an all time ratio over it. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard he or Ryen say.

You know, I think I understand what they’re saying and where they’re coming from. I don’t agree. I find it fascinating, but they’re right in that none of this stuff with Rodman is new, whereas there were always stories about the other stuff but Jordan, Pippen and Jackson don’t talk about it as much as Rodman has. I think they’re point is mostly coming from the perspective of people who were deep in the NBA at the time and we all knew this stuff at the time. There’s been a book, a documentary, and interviews beyond belief about and with Rodman. Hell, doesn’t he still go on Stern, regularly? Now, I didn’t read the SI cover story or the tabloids at the time, so I find the stories fascinating, but this Rodman stuff really isn’t new. So, yeah, I think I get it.

[MOtorboat]

I completely agree with Simmons on the rebounding thing. The doc spent maybe three minutes on the rebounding, and that’s maybe the most fascinating thing for basketball fans, and never gets talked about because he was so weird. So, as a basketball nerd, when he starts talking about practicing the ball coming off the rim differently from different guys and from different spots is super fascinating, but because he’s such a weird dude, that crazy thing only gets three minutes while Carmen Electra gets half an hour. Not that everyone doesn’t want to look at Carmen Electra for a half hour, but I kind of get that.

[aberdien]

I didn't realize that Dennis Rodman was an actual all-time great basketball player - or at least that's how I interpreted the way the episode covered him.

[MOtorboat]

I didn't realize that Dennis Rodman was an actual all-time great basketball player - or at least that's how I interpreted the way the episode covered him.

He’s not a pantheon guy, like All NBA Top 50 (or whatever they call that thing), but he was one of the greatest rebounders and defenders ever. It gets overshadowed in the public eye because of the weird shit, and I kind of think that’s Russillo’s point. He was the greatest rebounder I’ve ever seen. Truly amazing. (I obviously didn’t see Russell)

[BroncoWave]

You know, I think I understand what they’re saying and where they’re coming from. I don’t agree. I find it fascinating, but they’re right in that none of this stuff with Rodman is new, whereas there were always stories about the other stuff but Jordan, Pippen and Jackson don’t talk about it as much as Rodman has. I think they’re point is mostly coming from the perspective of people who were deep in the NBA at the time and we all knew this stuff at the time. There’s been a book, a documentary, and interviews beyond belief about and with Rodman. Hell, doesn’t he still go on Stern, regularly? Now, I didn’t read the SI cover story or the tabloids at the time, so I find the stories fascinating, but this Rodman stuff really isn’t new. So, yeah, I think I get it.

But Russillo's point was that Rodman is "boring" and shouldn't have had an episode about him. I think that's kind of a ridiculous take. I think they are also kinda missing the point of who this doc is for. I think it's mostly to teach people about that era who aren't experts on it. Sure if you're super familiar with that time a lot of that will seem repetitive, but it's pretty fascinating stuff if you're seeing most of it for the first time.

Also, in a 10 part series where each part focuses on a different person from that team, it's just preposterous to say one of those shouldn't be devoted to Rodman.

[BroncoWave]

I completely agree with Simmons on the rebounding thing. The doc spent maybe three minutes on the rebounding, and that’s maybe the most fascinating thing for basketball fans, and never gets talked about because he was so weird. So, as a basketball nerd, when he starts talking about practicing the ball coming off the rim differently from different guys and from different spots is super fascinating, but because he’s such a weird dude, that crazy thing only gets three minutes while Carmen Electra gets half an hour. Not that everyone doesn’t want to look at Carmen Electra for a half hour, but I kind of get that.

I agree the defense/rebounding thing was fascinating, and I can see how basketball junkies like those two would be mad that they glossed over that and spent a lot of time on his eccentric stuff, but again, I don't think this was made for basketball junkies. My wife enjoyed the Rodman part, and would have fallen asleep had they spent 30 minutes on rebounding technique. I have no issue with that decision.

[aberdien]

https://twitter.com/NifMuhammad/status/1257122974425124866?s=20

[Nomad]

Damn!

16825

[Nomad]

Mid 80s to Early 2000s was the 'greatest' generation of NBA basketball.

[Poet]

Mid 80s to Early 2000s was the 'greatest' generation of NBA basketball.

What was it like to watch Magic vs. Bird?

[Nomad]

What was it like to watch Magic vs. Bird?

This is why I watched....Bird & Magic. Isaiah Thomas. Then, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Michael Jordan, etc.

To answer your question....I loved the NBA back then.

[aberdien]

I wish I could've been in my late teens-early 20s in the 80s.

[Nomad]

I even liked Gary Payton. Clyde Drextler. The talent I witnessed was such a joy to watch. I liked John stockton, and Karl malone because Malone was from Louisiana. He was a beast.

[Nomad]

I've been watching some Stockton/Malone youtubes. Loved watching those guys.

[Nomad]

I wish I could've been in my late teens-early 20s in the 80s.

I wished I had paid closer attention watching Michael Jordan at UNC.

The kid at Golden State is fun to watch.

[Nomad]

Watching 'The Last Dance'

[BroncoJoe]

I wish I could've been in my late teens-early 20s in the 80s.

Then you'd be me!

[BroncoWave]

Then you'd be me!

I don't think he was talking about the 1880s.

[BroncoJoe]

I don't think he was talking about the 1880s.

You gotta admit though, riding around in a horse-drawn carriage is the bomb!

[Nomad]

Who was retired member 001?

[BroncoJoe]

Who was retired member 001?

It is revealed in post #4 on the first page.

[Nomad]

It is revealed in post #4 on the first page.

Ah. Thanks.

[NightTrainLayne]

What was it like to watch Magic vs. Bird?

It was awesome! Those playoff series were unbelievable.

[Hawgdriver]

Based on post count and year of thread inception, we can conclude that people's thoughts when it comes to the NBA are quite structured.

[Poet]

Based on post count and year of thread inception, we can conclude that people's thoughts when it comes to the NBA are quite structured.

If they properly officiated Shaq he would have average about 36-40 ppg in his prime....bad free throw percentage and all.

[aberdien]

This dude went full-on Hawgdriver math-nerd-brain on us. Full pic below.

https://twitter.com/LucasHoopsPoems/status/1260257127353942017?s=20

https://twitter.com/LucasHoopsPoems/status/1260259167614521349?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX1UpZjWkAA6sfN?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Hawgdriver]

Jordan 6
Manu 2
Robinson 4
Artest 1
Love 2

[Hawgdriver]

Ewing 3
Wilkins 3
Payton 3
Nash 3
Paul George 3

[Hawgdriver]

Jordan
Shaq
Tony Allen
Randolph
Artest

[BroncoWave]

Steph: 5
Reggie Miller: 2
Durant: 5
Melo: 2
Cousins: 1

Modern NBA. 4 shooters and a big guy. Who needs MJ or LeBron?

[Poet]

It's insane that Giannis might actually be undervalued on that chart.

[Poet]

Steph: 5
Reggie Miller: 2
Durant: 5
Melo: 2
Cousins: 1

Modern NBA. 4 shooters and a big guy. Who needs MJ or LeBron?

Melo ruins your team by existing. Then again, with that much efficiency on the floor, who cares? There's no way Steph, Durant, and Miller can all go cold at the same time...for longer than a half, right?

Right?

Like what, maybe that happens twice in the regular season and once in the playoffs?

Right?

[BroncoWave]

Melo ruins your team by existing. Then again, with that much efficiency on the floor, who cares? There's no way Steph, Durant, and Miller can all go cold at the same time...for longer than a half, right?

Right?

Like what, maybe that happens twice in the regular season and once in the playoffs?

Right?

Prime melo was a great scorer. This team isn't asking him to be their #1 guy like he had to be for most of his career. He always played his best in the Olympics when there were other stars on the team.

[Poet]

Prime melo was a great scorer. This team isn't asking him to be their #1 guy like he had to be for most of his career. He always played his best in the Olympics when there were other stars on the team.

If we can assume it's the late prime 'Melo when he was less....a little less...'Melo...then yeah. You sold me. And as constructed, the fact that he plays no defense doesn't matter.

[aberdien]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1261857036272312321?s=20

[Hawgdriver]

Yeah, 'coulda'. That should be on Melo's tombstone.

[Poet]

Phil Jackson was actually the lesser, smaller, and more petulant person in that particular exchange. I wish Phil had kept his mouth shut, only because he made Melo look like Mother Teresa in comparison.

Melo is a first ballot HoFer and one of the best pure scorers, ever.

[Poet]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1261857036272312321?s=20

Imagine being a RWB fan and bashing any star. Good lord. No one has ever done less with more than RWB. Go away monster.

[aberdien]

Russ is the only player since Jordan with that level of competitive desire to win.

[aberdien]

I remember in like 4th grade at the book fair I got a Carmelo Anthony poster. I always liked him better than LeBron back in those days.

[MOtorboat]

Imagine being a RWB fan and bashing any star. Good lord. No one has ever done less with more than RWB. Go away monster.


Russ is the only player since Jordan with that level of competitive desire to win.

Is this a hot take battle?

[aberdien]

Is this a hot take battle?

Depends on who is winning.

[MOtorboat]

Depends on who is winning.

Your take was pretty bad. So was his. So eh?

[Poet]

Russ is the only player since Jordan with that level of competitive desire to win.

Yeah, I remember watching LeBron in the finals and going "if only he was more like Russ, that'd do it."

I used to love Russ. If he can mature and turn his career around, I might embrace him again.

[Poet]

Olajuwon is the best center ever and he would murder today's game. If you want the smoke disagree. I'll drop 50 on you and still win my game.

[aberdien]

Let's do it.

https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1262883739325128704?s=20

[slim]

Prime melo was a great scorer. This team isn't asking him to be their #1 guy like he had to be for most of his career. He always played his best in the Olympics when there were other stars on the team.

Sounds like a first ballot HOFer to me!!!

[BroncoWave]

Sounds like a first ballot HOFer to me!!!

Oh I'd say he's just about a lock for that.

[Poet]

Sounds like a first ballot HOFer to me!!!

You're in my HOF.