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Denver Native (Carol)
05-25-2010, 05:33 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=10144

By Gray Caldwell
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- In his first two seasons, Eddie Royal has burst onto the NFL scene.

He tied for the third-fastest player in league history to reach 100 career receptions -- it took just 20 games -- and finished last year with the most catches by a player -- 128 -- in his first two pro seasons with the Broncos.

In Week 2 last season, he topped 1,000 career receiving yards, becoming just the sixth player in franchise history to reach that mark in his first two pro campaigns.

The only issue? His year one numbers far surpassed year two. His sophomore stats were 54 catches, 635 yards and five receiving touchdowns lower than the franchise record-setting rookie campaign that earned him all-rookie honors from Pro Football Weekly/PFWA and The Sporting News.

"I really can't put a finger on it," Brandon Stokley said of Royal's 2009 statistics. "He worked hard in the offseason, he was kind of the same guy that he was the year before, just sometimes it doesn't work out for you. Sometimes that year your numbers are down, and you really can't put a finger on it."

Royal wasn't exactly pleased with his lower numbers, but that has never been his biggest concern.

"You just want to come out and win football games," Royal said. "That was the main thing. None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out."

Last season, that meant taking even more pride in his role as the team's primary return specialist. He led the club with 335 punt return yards and 621 kick return yards, earning the honor of AFC Special Teams Player of the Month in October.

The award came on the heels of a Monday Night Football game in San Diego in which he returned a kickoff and a punt for touchdowns against the Chargers. He was just the second player in team history to accomplish that feat.

That effort in other phases of the game impressed Head Coach Josh McDaniels, but he wants to get the receiver even more involved in the offense in 2010, similar to the contribution he had as a rookie. In 2008, Royal posted five plays of at least 50 yards and became the first player since the 1970 NFL merger to record his team’s longest run, reception, kickoff return and punt return in the same year.

"I think he's a smart player, a versatile player (and) a guy that we need to do better with," McDaniels said. "We didn't do a good enough job of getting Eddie involved in the offense in certain games and we have to do a better job of that. He is certainly capable. We are looking forward to him having a better year than he did last year and we need to do our part."

Part of the solution could be moving Royal around the line of scrimmage and focusing his work on the slot receiver position. McDaniels said that process began late last season, and during OTAs the receiver has been spending much of his time in the slot.

Now in his second year of McDaniels' offense, Royal expects more out of himself. He's getting accustomed to every receiver position so that he can step into any role if needed, and he has already found himself thinking less and reacting more on the field.

"You hear a play in the huddle and you don't have to say, 'Wait a minute,'" Royal said. "You understand it, you can go line up right away. You feel a little bit more comfortable, and that relationship with the quarterback grows even more in that second year. So we'll see."

It helps that the quarterback has made a goal to help Royal find more success next season.

"We've already talked about it, Eddie and myself," Kyle Orton said. "For whatever reason, we couldn't get on the same page some games, whether I missed him or he did something I didn't think was going to happen. Eddie should be a major part of this offense, and we'll get him going. We're working hard. He's going to have a great year this year."

Royal has heard all the reasons given for his decreased numbers last season, but he's hard at work to put them all to bed with his performance on gamedays in 2010.

"Come Sunday, it's no excuses," he said.

T.K.O.
05-25-2010, 06:04 PM
another reason to believe we will be OK post BM !;)

threefolddead
05-25-2010, 07:03 PM
Man I just hope Eddie can pick up where Marshall left off dropping three or four balls a game. I don't have any idea what we are going to do without him.

Bosco
05-25-2010, 09:32 PM
Moving Eddie Royal into the Z receiver spot where he belongs is going to solve 95% of the problem. Wes Welker has turned in three straight 100+ catches in that role, and Eddie Royal is a much better athlete than Welker could ever dream of becoming.

TXBRONC
05-25-2010, 11:46 PM
Man I just hope Eddie can pick up where Marshall left off dropping three or four balls a game. I don't have any idea what we are going to do without him.

Marshall was dropping three or four balls a game? Nope.

Bosco
05-26-2010, 12:32 AM
Marshall was dropping three or balls a game? Nope.

I haven't seen the stat for 2009 but in 2009 it was actually around 1 drop per game IIRC, which was like 3rd or 4th worst in the NFL.

arapaho2
05-26-2010, 11:14 AM
Man I just hope Eddie can pick up where Marshall left off dropping three or four balls a game. I don't have any idea what we are going to do without him.


hey if your gonna be a turd and make shit up might as well be a big pile ...right?


marquis coulston
andre johnson
terrel owens
mario manningham
santana moss
santanio holmes
randy moss
donald driver

all had more or the same amount of drops as marshalls 8.....
i believe less then 1/2 drops per game is better then ..3 or 4 drops per game..right?

do the math...15 games...8 drops...now spin that to 3 or 4 drops per game:coffee:

arapaho2
05-26-2010, 11:17 AM
I haven't seen the stat for 2009 but in 2009 it was actually around 1 drop per game IIRC, which was like 3rd or 4th worst in the NFL.


marshall had 149 balls thrown at him...8 drops in 15 games....trying as as hard as i can to spin it to 1 drop per game...still cant:laugh:

Bosco
05-26-2010, 05:26 PM
marshall had 149 balls thrown at him...8 drops in 15 games....trying as as hard as i can to spin it to 1 drop per game...still cant:laugh: You're talking about 2009. I'm talking about 2008.

broncobryce
05-26-2010, 05:32 PM
When his arm was jacked up from punching the tv, he dropped balls, but last year he was solid as hell. I don't remember him dropping any. Doesnt really matter now.

Broncolingus
05-26-2010, 05:34 PM
http://www.poopprank.com/comedians/eddie-murphy/eddie_muprhy.jpg

"Eddie!!!"

"You treat me like an-i-mal!!!"

"Half!"

TXBRONC
05-27-2010, 12:04 AM
When his arm was jacked up from punching the tv, he dropped balls, but last year he was solid as hell. I don't remember him dropping any. Doesnt really matter now.

I don't think even '08 he was dropping 3 or 4 per game. Imo it's only fair to also take into account how many times a guy was targeted verse the number of drops.

arapaho2
05-27-2010, 11:04 AM
You're talking about 2009. I'm talking about 2008.


too bad you said 2009...if you say he dropped one ball per game in 2009...how is anyone supposed to figure out you meant 08


meanwhile back in reality...in 08 marshall did drop 16 balls...he was also thrown at more times than any other receiver in the league

Bosco
05-27-2010, 02:32 PM
too bad you said 2009...if you say he dropped one ball per game in 2009...how is anyone supposed to figure out you meant 08 So when you saw this...
seen the stat for 2009 but in 2009 your brain didn't go "Hmmm, I bet he meant 2008. Must have been a typo"?


meanwhile back in reality...in 08 marshall did drop 16 balls...he was also thrown at more times than any other receiver in the league According to this site (http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html) it was 12 drops in 15 games.

BigBroncLove
05-27-2010, 02:38 PM
Wouldn't it be a moot subject anyways if he had the problem in 08 and obviously corrected it in 09?

I mean, I know I don't look at Baileys stats when he first joined the Broncos with his torn tendon to his play now. Same goes for Weigmans great campaign in 08 vs his 09 campaign.

Could Marshall slip back? yeah... but that could be said for any issue of any player. I don't think that's a stat or consideration that should be taken seriously at all, and in my mind doesn't factor into the age old Shanny line, "what can you do for me now?".

arapaho2
05-27-2010, 03:54 PM
So when you saw this... your brain didn't go "Hmmm, I bet he meant 2008. Must have been a typo"?

According to this site (http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html) it was 12 drops in 15 games.


well your blank site is wrong i can only assume

he had 8 drops in 15 games..149 attempts...09
he had 16 drops in 15 games..177 attempts...08

BigBroncLove
05-27-2010, 04:08 PM
2009: Brandon Marshall
Ranked 16th (tied)
Den
Passes Dropped: 7

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2007&range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232

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Bosco
05-27-2010, 11:44 PM
well your blank site is wrong i can only assume

he had 8 drops in 15 games..149 attempts...09
he had 16 drops in 15 games..177 attempts...08

So you find a source that actually shows he had MORE drops in 2008?

Excellent.

GGMoogly
05-28-2010, 03:07 AM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=10144
"I think he's a smart player, a versatile player (and) a guy that we need to do better with," McDaniels said. "We didn't do a good enough job of getting Eddie involved in the offense in certain games and we have to do a better job of that. He is certainly capable. We are looking forward to him having a better year than he did last year and we need to do our part."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't McD say the same thing about Hillis?:confused: