Broncos' Dumervil is in demand

[TXBRONC]

I know this relates closely to other two threads on Dumervil but I thought it at least deserved a little face time separate from the other threads. Hey and it's not just another Tebow/Orton thread. :D


http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_15106354

Broncos' Dumervil is in demand
McDaniels says star pass rusher "deserves" to get big contract
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 05/18/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT

"Pay the man!" people scream.

"Show Elvis the money!" shout the headlines.

The Broncos feel the pressure. And they love Elvis Dumervil. They appreciate the NFL-leading 17 sacks he produced last season. They are even willing to pay him big money.

It's just that paying Dumervil his market value means committing $65 million to $85 million in total contract, with guarantees around $40 million.

Even if this is nothing more than the cost of doing NFL business with an elite player at a premium position, excuse the Broncos while they gulp.

For a team that doesn't have much practice paying enormous money to any one player, the Broncos are not exactly rushing through negotiations with Dumervil.

"Nothing imminent," Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said. "But we're working together on the thing to make sure he's a Bronco for a long time. He deserves it."

At least the two sides have been negotiating. Which is why Dumervil, despite not having a signed contract, participated Monday in the Broncos' opening session of their voluntary organized team activity at the team's Dove Valley headquarters.

"I feel like both parties want to get something done," Dumervil said.

Before the workout, Dumervil signed an injury protection waiver. Thus if he gets hurt, he still could be entitled to the $3.168 million salary he was tendered in March as a restricted free agent.

If all goes well for Dumervil in negotiations, that $3.168 million could increase nearly 25 times in total contract value, based on deals other premier pass rushers have received.

"We're going to focus on the contract while Elvis and the Broncos focus on 2010," said Gary Wichard, Dumervil's agent. "We're hopeful everything will work out very positively in the next several weeks and see if we can get something done."

It would be easier if the Broncos were asked to pay, say, Brian Dawkins. As a veteran safety, his average annual salary is $3.4 million, even as a seven-time Pro Bowl selection.

The NFL's four highest-paid positions are more closely related to the passing game — quarterback, pass rusher, cornerback and left tackle.

Dumervil, as the NFL's reigning sack champion, is in position to join a considerably higher tax bracket.

Only two players have more sacks than Dumervil's 43 since he was drafted four years ago — Dallas' DeMarcus Ware (56 1/2) and Minnesota's Jared Allen (52). Last year, Ware received a $79 million contract with $40 million guaranteed; two years ago, Allen got a $72.26 million deal with $31 million guaranteed.

Other pass rushers who recently received rich contracts despite falling short of matching Dumervil's sack production in 2009 are Julius Peppers ($84 million contract, $42 million guaranteed) and Terrell Suggs ($62.5 million deal, $38 million guaranteed).

Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com

[BroncoNut]

we have GOT to keep him a Denver Bronco. I love this man

[TXBRONC]

Two things I hope others will take notice of:

1.) Dumervil does have leverage when you're reigning sack champion and there is no other defender on the team that can give you double digit sacks then yeah I hope to shout that's a position of strength.

2.) Also notice how close Dumervils sack numbers are to those of Ware and Allen. Ware has been in the league two years longer and Allen three years longer.


Btw just for clarificaton, Ware had 11 sacks this past season not 15.

[broncohead]

Two things I hope others will take notice of:

1.) Dumervil does have leverage when you're reigning sack champion and there is no other defender on the team that can give you double digit sacks then yeah I hope to shout that's a position of strength.

2.) Also notice how close Dumervils sack numbers are to those of Ware and Allen. Ware has been in the league two years longer and Allen three years longer.


Btw just for clarificaton, Ware had 11 sacks this past season not 15.

I don't see how he has leverage. He either signs his tender/new contract or he doesn't play or get paid. On top of that if he signs his tender and doesn't agree to a long term deal we have the franchise tag next season. I really like him as a player and seems like a good person but he's a pass rusher and thats it. Players who deserve contracts like Ware need to be well rounded

[Northman]

Pay the man, he's the only pass rusher we have.

[TXBRONC]

I don't see how he has leverage. He either signs his tender/new contract or he doesn't play or get paid. On top of that if he signs his tender and doesn't agree to a long term deal we have the franchise tag next season. I really like him as a player and seems like a good person but he's a pass rusher and thats it. Players who deserve contracts like Ware need to be well rounded

If he didn't have leverage then why are they working on a long term extension?

[Dirk]

I hope that Doom gets paid good money. Is he worth $65 to $85 million? I don't really think so.

I love Doom as much as anyone, but he is a "rush" specialist and an average at best LB.

Hopefully both sides can come together to get this done and wrap Doom up for years to come.


On a side note - Peppers gets $84 million? Seriously? Wow...his prodcution went down and so did his attitude. Oh well...good for him I guess.

[broncohead]

If he didn't have leverage then why are they working on a long term extension?

I'm sure the broncos want to keep him but at a reasonable price.

[broncohead]

I hope that Doom gets paid good money. Is he worth $65 to $85 million? I don't really think so.

I love Doom as much as anyone, but he is a "rush" specialist and an average at best LB.

Hopefully both sides can come together to get this done and wrap Doom up for years to come.


On a side note - Peppers gets $84 million? Seriously? Wow...his prodcution went down and so did his attitude. Oh well...good for him I guess.

I agree with this. I want dume to stay but at a reasonable price

[Lonestar]

I don't see how he has leverage. He either signs his tender/new contract or he doesn't play or get paid. On top of that if he signs his tender and doesn't agree to a long term deal we have the franchise tag next season. I really like him as a player and seems like a good person but he's a pass rusher and thats it. Players who deserve contracts like Ware need to be well rounded


Thanks for reiterating this.

He had NO leverage to NOT show up for OTA or camp. He either plays or he does not get paid until the Broncos want to cut him loose or trade him. In the current CBA status he is ours through 2012, (RFA until his 5 completed year and then up to 2 Tag years so make that 2013).

IF we want to play hard ball.

Yes he is a Nice guy and a respected leader BUT folks forget breaking the bank on one player when there are OTHER needs also makes no sense.

Let hope both side can come up with a fair contract for BOTH sides, without all the drama this has already seemed to been created on the message boards..

[Tned]

I don't see how he has leverage. He either signs his tender/new contract or he doesn't play or get paid. On top of that if he signs his tender and doesn't agree to a long term deal we have the franchise tag next season. I really like him as a player and seems like a good person but he's a pass rusher and thats it. Players who deserve contracts like Ware need to be well rounded

There is a downside for him signing his tender, if he and the Broncos think they are close to reaching an agreement. The thirty percent rule.

In an uncapped year, a salary renegotiation is limited. A team can only increase a players base salary by 30%. So, if Dumervil signs his tender, I don't think the Broncos can sign him to a long term deal (I belive, but am not 100% sure, that an extension is considered a renegotiation) until after his one year tender expires.

[claymore]

Tender the SOB for the next 2 years. If he whines trade him.

[BroncoNut]

^
total dick

[TXBRONC]

^
total dick

I'm pretty sure Clay is just kidding around.

[dogfish]

I'm pretty sure Clay is just kidding around.

and i'm pretty sure nut is right. . . . :D

[Ravage!!!]

Tender the SOB for the next 2 years. If he whines trade him.

Isn't that what everyone wanted to do with Marshall? After all, if he whines, then he isn't a TEAM first kind of guy. Can't be a McD caliber player! :lol:

[claymore]

Isn't that what everyone wanted to do with Marshall? After all, if he whines, then he isn't a TEAM first kind of guy. Can't be a McD caliber player! :lol:

If we are gonna demand it, lets be fair across the board. Lets enjoy 2 years of cheap pay. We all know as soon as he gets payed he will get hurt oor suck.

[Lonestar]

If we are gonna demand it, lets be fair across the board. Lets enjoy 2 years of cheap pay. We all know as soon as he gets payed he will get hurt oor suck.



your wish has come true. :salute:

[TXBRONC]

If we are gonna demand it, lets be fair across the board. Lets enjoy 2 years of cheap pay. We all know as soon as he gets payed he will get hurt oor suck.

If we were talking about a journeyman quarterback that's one thing, but Dumervil is one of the better pass rushers in the League.

[CoachChaz]

The difference is that Ware, Allen and Peppers have an ability to tackle running backs as well as quarterbacks.
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[LordTrychon]

The difference is that Ware, Allen and Peppers have an ability to tackle running backs as well as quarterbacks.
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Well, now he can practice with Tebow... win/win.

[Tempus Fugit]

The difference is that Ware, Allen and Peppers have an ability to tackle running backs as well as quarterbacks.
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Well, to be fair, Peppers sucks against the run, too.

[dogfish]

The difference is that Ware, Allen and Peppers have an ability to tackle running backs as well as quarterbacks.
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another difference would be that peppers is a lazy bum who gives full effort about twenty percent of the time. . . .

[TXBRONC]

The difference is that Ware, Allen and Peppers have an ability to tackle running backs as well as quarterbacks.
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They all had similar stats Chaz.

[Lonestar]

******Snaps Overall Run D Rush Cov. Penalty #Pen QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr BP Tks Ass MT Stops
doom 880 4.2 -12.1 21.2 0.1 -5.0 5-1 17 7 31 2 23 6 0 31
ware 1,093 36.8 9.4 27.8 4.1 -4.5 5-1 15 19 61 1 39 13 3 40
matthews 921 20.0 10.5 8.8 2.7 -2.0 2-0 11 14 26 0 30 9 7 31
harrison 1,032 22.7 3.0 21.8 1.9 -4.0 4-0 10 13 34 1 52 9 5 49
allen 1,073 23.8 0.2 24.1 1.5 -2.0 3-1 16 15 45 4 30 6 3 36
peppers 806 12.3 -2.6 12.9 5.0 -3.0 3-1 10 10 33 1 23 3 4 26



http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=W&playerid=2228

[TXBRONC]

another difference would be that peppers is a lazy bum who gives full effort about twenty percent of the time. . . .

At one time I thought he would have been great addition to the Broncos now I'm not so sure.

[gregbroncs]

******Snaps Overall Run D Rush Cov. Penalty #Pen QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr BP Tks Ass MT Stops
doom 880 4.2 -12.1 21.2 0.1 -5.0 5-1 17 7 31 2 23 6 0 31
ware 1,093 36.8 9.4 27.8 4.1 -4.5 5-1 15 19 61 1 39 13 3 40
matthews 921 20.0 10.5 8.8 2.7 -2.0 2-0 11 14 26 0 30 9 7 31
harrison 1,032 22.7 3.0 21.8 1.9 -4.0 4-0 10 13 34 1 52 9 5 49
allen 1,073 23.8 0.2 24.1 1.5 -2.0 3-1 16 15 45 4 30 6 3 36
peppers 806 12.3 -2.6 12.9 5.0 -3.0 3-1 10 10 33 1 23 3 4 26



http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=W&playerid=2228Wow the run defense stat is umm alarming. I'm all for giving Doom a contract but he does not deserve what most of these other players got. It's also interesting how far behind he is in solo tackles and especially QB pressure.

[Bosco]

Wow the run defense stat is umm alarming. I'm all for giving Doom a contract but he does not deserve what most of these other players got. It's also interesting how far behind he is in solo tackles and especially QB pressure.

If it makes you feel better, Pro Football Focus is a joke of a site with almost zero credibility. :D

[turftoad]

Us old timers would love to see a power running game and smash mouth, throwback football.
Not gonna happen. The sooner we realize that the better.

The NFL has turned into a pass happy league. Sure you still have to able to stop the run but a premier pass rusher in the league nowa days is a must.

We need to keep the guy happy.

[TXBRONC]

Us old timers would love to see a power running game and smash mouth, throwback football.
Not gonna happen. The sooner we realize that the better.

The NFL has turned into a pass happy league. Sure you still have to able to stop the run but a premier pass rusher in the league nowa days is a must.

We need to keep the guy happy.

What I think sad is the complaining how Dumervil is not a rounded DE/OLB when he's played for all of one freaking season.

[LTC Pain]

What I think sad is the complaining how Dumervil is not a rounded DE/OLB when he's played for all of one freaking season.

Word!

[TXBRONC]

Word!

Double :salute::salute: to you.