Clady Injured (Merged)

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Check this out... holding my breath.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/04/28/clady-injured/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter&utm_content=Twitter


Two NFL sources say Broncos’ Pro Bowl left tackle Ryan Clady has suffered a non-football-related injury to a patella tendon in one of his knees. The significance of the injury is not yet known.

Check breaking updates at denverpost.com/broncos

[UnderArmour]

Well... There goes our season.

[weazel]

uh oh

[HORSEPOWER 56]

It says "non-football related"... it better not be a McDonalds bag...

[shank]

http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/do_not_want_cat.jpg

[slim]

He really doesn't fit our new power scheme anyway. :welcome:

[broncofaninfla]

I just got the email!!! ****!!!!!!!!!

[jhildebrand]

Weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll That is just B E A utiful :sick:

[turftoad]

He really doesn't fit our new power scheme anyway. :welcome:

And he's a Pro Bowl talanted offensive player so McD probably doesn't like him. :shocked:

Hope he's OK.

[underrated29]

**** Karma is a biotch...It all comes back from when we did that little screen pass to clady last season. He did not get injured then but now he does.


I want to see Clady like this in 2 months.:elefant:

[dogfish]

looks like tebow's going to be getting the start after all, fellas-- he's the only quarterback we have who's good enough to protect his own blind side. . . .

[dogfish]

the PFT story was just updated to include the news that klis says the injury "could be serious". . .


know what sucks? i'm just so completely unsurprised by this. . . honestly, this franchise must be cursed. . .

[broncofaninfla]

Ryan Clady suffers non-football related injury (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/ryan-clady-suffers-non-football-related-injury/)

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 28, 2010 2:31 PM ET
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/assets_c/2010/04/R.%20Clady-thumb-250x185-10422.jpg (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/R.%20Clady.jpg)This is one of those posts where the headline pretty much tells the entire story.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post writes that Broncos Pro Bowl tackle Ryan Clady (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4616) suffered a non-football injury to a patella tendon in one of his knees (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/04/28/clady-injured/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter). The severity is unknown.

No other information is available at this time, so it's tough to gauge whether this is a big story or not. We'll let you know once we hear more.

UPDATE: The injury "could be serious (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14976271)" according to Klis.

[Nomad]

I wonder if he did it playing basketball or something! :ohwell: it's done I hope he heals fast!!

Here a little info on that injury!

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=A00512

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I wonder if he did it playing basketball or something! :ohwell: it's done I hope he heals fast!!

Here a little info on that injury!

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=A00512

Cross your fingers that it's just a sprain!

[rationalfan]

F*** Karma is a biotch...It all comes back from when we did that little screen pass to clady last season. He did not get injured then but now he does. :

how is that karma?

regardless, suddenly the beadles pick feels a lot better.

[Buff]

looks like tebow's going to be getting the start after all, fellas-- he's the only quarterback we have who's good enough to protect his own blind side. . . .

Timothy R Tebow doesn't have a blindside.

[Buff]

Also, shit.

[Elevation inc]

it is serious and usually takes 4-6 weeks of healing after surgery if its a tear of the tendon and 4-8 weeks Rehab....he is looking at being out 12-14 weeks worse case so he should still be ready for TC in august


sucks really bad.....

[Nomad]

Cross your fingers that it's just a sprain!

Worst case scenerio, It says recovery is usually 6 months and most times takes up to 12 months to reach full goal!!:tsk: So yes let's hope it's a sprain!!

[slim]

it is serious and usually takes 4-6 weeks of healing after surgery if its a tear of the tendon and 4-8 weeks Rehab....he is looking at being out 12-14 weeks worse case so he should still be ready for TC in august


sucks really bad.....

Yeah, I don't see why he wouldn't be back for TC.

[jhildebrand]

I wonder if he did it playing basketball or something! :ohwell: it's done I hope he heals fast!!

Here a little info on that injury!

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=A00512

I think they are at Dove Valley for OTA's

[claymore]

it is serious and usually takes 4-6 weeks of healing after surgery if its a tear of the tendon and 4-8 weeks Rehab....he is looking at being out 12-14 weeks worse case so he should still be ready for TC in august


sucks really bad.....

So with our medical staff that means his career is over and he has 4 weeks to live.

[Buff]

So with our medical staff that means his career is over and he has 4 weeks to live.

Nah, we'll tell him to just tape it up and get back out there... No surgery necessary.

[SOCALORADO.]

So with our medical staff that means his career is over and he has 4 weeks to live.

Tebows doing the surgery. He'll be ready by no later than FRI @ 7 AM.
Apparently Tebows going to transplant some of his awsomeness into the knee as well to prevent any further issues.

[silkamilkamonico]

Get better Clady. That sucks, dude has been a monster and has not missed any games, and then he takes a serious injury in a non football related incident. Unfortunate.

[Ravage!!!]

I'm not fretting until we learn more.... could be nothing

[Ravage!!!]

So with our medical staff that means his career is over and he has 4 weeks to live.

No no.. they'll just run tests, and not see anything wrong. So that means he wont miss ANy time!!

[camdisco24]

Tebows doing the surgery. He'll be ready by no later than FRI @ 7 AM.
Apparently Tebows going to transplant some of his awsomeness into the knee as well to prevent any further issues.

Wrong. Tebow isn't doing surgery, he's healing him Jesus style.
However, Friday at 7AM is correct. (And awesomeness transplant will occur as well)


In all seriousness, I hope Clady heals VERY quick. we need him big time.

[jhildebrand]

No no.. they'll just run tests, and not see anything wrong. So that means he wont miss ANy time!!

Brandon Marshall and Rod Smith can assure him that everything is just fine



:lol:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

posted 7 mins ago - but still not much info

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817d85fa&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Broncos' Clady suffers knee injury in non-football activity

NFL.com

Denver Broncos Pro Bowl offensive tackle Ryan Clady has suffered a knee injury, which is expected to sideline him for a significant amount of time, NFL Network insider Michael Lombardi reports.

The injury came during a non-football activity, Lombardi reports.

Since being take in the first round of the 2008 NFL Draft, Clady has started 32 games and become an elite left tackle.

[Northman]

He really doesn't fit our new power scheme anyway. :welcome:

:lol:

Dont you mean he is too talented?

[Northman]

looks like tebow's going to be getting the start after all, fellas-- he's the only quarterback we have who's good enough to protect his own blind side. . . .

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/art-schlichter.jpg

[Northman]

So with our medical staff that means his career is over and he has 4 weeks to live.

Bwhahahahahahahaha. oh shit. Nice one Clay.

[Italianmobstr7]

posted 7 mins ago - but still not much info

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817d85fa&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Broncos' Clady suffers knee injury in non-football activity

NFL.com

Denver Broncos Pro Bowl offensive tackle Ryan Clady has suffered a knee injury, which is expected to sideline him for a significant amount of time, NFL Network insider Michael Lombardi reports.

The injury came during a non-football activity, Lombardi reports.

Since being take in the first round of the 2008 NFL Draft, Clady has started 32 games and become an elite left tackle.


Mother******.... If Clady is seriously hurt our season may be over before it begins. That dude is a BEAST. This seriously sucks.

[Italianmobstr7]

Josina Anderson UPDATE: twitter.com/josinaanderson

Clady to Fox31: On t/ characterization of his injury, R. Clady said to me, "it's not that bad." Gt impression tht meant glad it's not worse

Fox 31 Alert: I just got off the phone with R. Clady. He spoke briefly. Clady says that he's hopeful he will be "ready for training camp."


2 sources told Fox31 they heard Clady had some type of procedure on his knee. When I asked Clady did you have surgery he replied "yeah."

When I asked Clady which knee it was, he said "left." The call then ended understandably. The Broncos will not confirm Clady's or from other sources coming in.

[getlynched47]

Hey peeps, chill out.

http://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson

Apparently, Clady suffered the injury a while ago and already had the surgery. He says he hopes to be back for Training Camp.

Basically, this happened before and the info just leaked today.

Thank goodness

[spikerman]

The Broncos should just wait for the Raiders to cut Jamarcus Russell and presto - a 300 lb tackle in waiting.

[weazel]

that's good news. Tell Tebow he won't be needed, he can go back to curing cancer and turning water to wine.

[Bronco1982]

Source: Ryan Clady tore patellar tendon playing basketball
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2010 4:43 PM ET
The unbridled enthusiasm coming from Denver in the wake of the Thomas-Tebow round-one haul has hit a relatively major snag.

As Mike Klis of the Denver Post reported earlier today, tackle Ryan Clady suffered a potentially serious knee injury while doing something unrelated to football. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the injury is believed to be a torn patellar tendon. The source says the injury occurred while Clady was playing basketball.

If that's the case, Clady likely will miss all of the 2010 season. A first-round pick in 2008, Clady has started all 32 regular-season games of his career, and he was named to the Pro Bowl and the Associated Press All-Pro team after the 2009 season.

Also, if anyone is interested in signing Flozell Adams, it may be a good idea to get a deal done before the Broncos make a play for him.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txbroncosclady

ENGLEWOOD, COLO.(AP) —Denver Broncos All-Pro left tackle Ryan Clady(notes) sustained a possibly serious knee injury during offseason workouts, according to a published report.

The Denver Post reported on its website Wednesday that Clady suffered the knee injury off the field and that it could be serious.

Team spokesman Patrick Smythe declined to comment on the report when reached by The Associated Press, saying only that veterans were participating this week in the team’s offseason training program. Clady’s agent, Pat Dye Jr., didn’t immediately return a phone call.

Clady was the 12th overall pick out of Boise State in the 2008 NFL draft. He allowed the fewest sacks among tackles as a rookie and last year became the 11th tackle to earn Pro Bowl honors in his second season.

[BigBroncLove]

Also from MSNBC via Josina Anderson (i know I know)....


Broncos LT Ryan Clady confirmed Wednesday that he needed surgery to repair the patellar tendon he injured in a recent non-football-related incident.

The surgery was done on Clady's left knee. The Pro Bowler claims the injury is not serious, but Mike Lombardi reported on NFL Network's Around the League program Wednesday that Clady will miss "significant" time. "It's not that bad," Clady insisted to FOX 31 Denver, adding that he hopes to be "ready for training camp." Still, it sounds like Clady tore the tendon, which could easily sideline him into Week 1. We'll update as the situation develops.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36833661/ns/sports-player_news/

So sounds as if the surgery is done which is the good part. Hopefully he is 100% by week one.

[Elevation inc]

it is serious and usually takes 4-6 weeks of healing after surgery if its a tear of the tendon and 4-8 weeks Rehab....he is looking at being out 12-14 weeks worse case so he should still be ready for TC in august


sucks really bad.....



as i said 12-14 weeks he should be be ready by TC but he will be ready by week 1.....the good news is patellar tendons are easy injuries to come back from its not like a ACL(javon walker)...its serious but if you had to tear something in a knee well hey....i've torn my rt one 2 times in the last 3 years snowboarding...and im as healthy as a ox:D and just got done with a full aggressive season without issue....

first one took me ten weeks to start running full speed.....the second one took me 12 weeks it happened in mid october of 2008 and i was riding again full speed near end of january 2009

not saying clady will be the same here but i do know about a patellar tendon tear from personal expireience....

[TXBRONC]

Hey peeps, chill out.

http://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson

Apparently, Clady suffered the injury a while ago and already had the surgery. He says he hopes to be back for Training Camp.

Basically, this happened before and the info just leaked today.

Thank goodness

If he's back by camp then yeah everything is fine.

[getlynched47]

UPDATE:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/source-ryan-clady-tore-patellar-tendon-playing-basketball/


The unbridled enthusiasm coming from Denver in the wake of the Thomas-Tebow round-one haul has hit a relatively major snag.

As Mike Klis of the Denver Post reported earlier today, tackle Ryan Clady suffered a potentially serious knee injury while doing something unrelated to football. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the injury is believed to be a torn patellar tendon. The source says the injury occurred while Clady was playing basketball.

If that's the case, Clady likely will miss all of the 2010 season. A first-round pick in 2008, Clady has started all 32 regular-season games of his career, and he was named to the Pro Bowl and the Associated Press All-Pro team after the 2009 season.

Also, if anyone is interested in signing Flozell Adams, it may be a good idea to get a deal done before the Broncos make a play for him.

I get the sense that this happened Pre-Draft

Well it makes sense that it happened pre-draft and McDaniels felt compelled to draft Zane Beadles.

We all thought that since McDaniels said Zane Beadles would compete at Right Tackle, that Ryan Harris was on the outs.

But it makes more sense now because, knowing that Clady was injured, they drafted Beatles to play right tackle and they would kick Ryan Harris to Left Tackle just in case Ryan Clady was unable to come back from his injury.

[Elevation inc]

UPDATE:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/source-ryan-clady-tore-patellar-tendon-playing-basketball/

not a chance he misses all of 2010...they need to get there facts straight...unless he has some serious complications or re-injures it during rehab....all of 2010


where the hell do these media hacks come up with this....they probally dont even know what a patellar tendon is....

[claymore]

Hopefully we can get some of his signing bonus back. Effin retard effed our season playing basketball. :tsk:

[Bronco1982]

I know WTF. I have read on other sites he may only be out until Week 1 so who knows

[Elevation inc]

not a chance he misses all of 2010...they need to get there facts straight...unless he has some serious complications or re-injures it during rehab....all of 2010


where the hell do these media hacks come up with this....they probally dont even know what a patellar tendon is....

the absolute worst case i have seen was a high school football buddy who was out for almost seven months, and his was once of the most mangled tears doctors had seen.....it just varies...clady is healthy. i ceratinly wasnt when i came back from mine granted i wore a brace for 2 months during activities just to be safe, but my activitiy wasnt hindered at all....

[getlynched47]

From Adam Schefter:


Broncos Pro Bowl OT Ryan Clady tore his patella tendon playing basketball. He told people he will miss three months. Could've been worse.

[TXBRONC]

There is already another thread on this subject. There is also another report out that says that injury and surgery happened like a month ago and just now being leaked about the injury. By the way, the report says Clady is expected to be back by the time training camp starts.

[Lancane]

Hopefully we can get some of his signing bonus back. Effin retard effed our season playing basketball. :tsk:

Why would the Broncos get any of his signing bonus back? It's not contingent on his health, that would be a roster bonus and would be more of incentive based then anything. Look, I know it sucks...but these kids are human, we can not ask them to quit behing human for the sake of their jobs...it's just as easy to tear the petellar tendon in a weight room or in practice as it is playing a game of basketball. It's not like he was skydiving or riding a motorcycle and getting into accidents, trying some extreme sports for the hell of it. Hopefully he's alright and able to return sooner rather then later...

[Italianmobstr7]

Schefter says he'll miss 3 months and that it couldve been a lot worse. Twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

[Nomad]

Hopefully we can get some of his signing bonus back. Effin retard effed our season playing basketball. :tsk:

Yeah, that website I had found said usually basketball is one of the reason's or other jumping sports! It also said worst case would be 6-12 months! I understand these players can't treat themselves as porcelain dolls but a big man like him shouldn't be playing basketball....he probably tried to dunk!!

[Elevation inc]

From Adam Schefter:

pro football talk needs to hire me.....hacks thats what they are all of 2010 sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!:coffee:

[TXBRONC]

From Adam Schefter:

That would correspond with him being ready to go by the time training camp comes starts.

[topscribe]

For pity's sake, you guys. Is he supposed to sit around all winter, reading Reader's Digest magazines?

Stuff happens. The Broncos are just going to have to figure a way . . . :coffee:











*Looks both ways to see if anybody's watching. Throws tantrum* :mad2:



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[sanluis]

He is a great player. I hope he gets better soon .


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817d85fa&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[Elevation inc]

we will be fine as will clady...i dont know about this board...because i cant keep track of all the heart attacks people had...but were good....:lol:

[Lancane]

Yeah, that website I had found said usually basketball is one of the reason's or other jumping sports! It also said worst case would be 6-12 months! I understand these players can't treat themselves as porcelain dolls but a big man like him shouldn't be playing basketball....he probably tried to dunk!!

You can actually tear that tendon by jump roping even, it's pretty common. And you do find that receivers actually have bigger problems with it then lineman...and I doubt he actually tried to dunk the ball, I'm pretty sure that a foot off the ground wouldn't do much in the way of getting his big ass closer to the hoop.

:lol:

[topscribe]

He is a great player. I hope he gets better soon .


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817d85fa&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Thanks, my friend.

Of course, you mean right after our SD games . . . :D

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[BroncoWave]

For pity's sake, you guys. Is he supposed to sit around all winter, reading Reader's Digest magazines?

Stuff happens. The Broncos are just going to have to figure a way . . . :coffee:











*Looks both ways to see if anybody's watching. Throws tantrum* :mad2:



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Only one person made the comment that he shouldn't have been playing basketball. :confused:

[NorthernLights]

This is terrible news and I truly hope he recovers quickly. Not the news any teams wants to hear.

[Ziggy]

Adam_Schefter: Broncos Pro Bowl OT Ryan Clady tore his patella tendon playing basketball. He told people he will miss three months.

[SOCALORADO.]

There is already another thread on this subject. There is also another report out that says that injury and surgery happened like a month ago and just now being leaked about the injury. By the way, the report says Clady is expected to be back by the time training camp starts.

All joking aside, i hope this is true.
I like Beadles and all, but jeez it would suck to have to throw him in there right away!

[JONtheBRONCO]

Yikes. He'll be out 3-4 months. Thats May, June, July, 1/2 August more than likely. Season doesn't start until September. Although this sucks, it could be worse. MUCH WORSE. Positive news - he'll play the entire season, maybe miss a game (week 1), but thanks be to the lord thats all! Sign Flozell for now please.

[Northman]

Make it work McDaniels.

[Broncolingus]

Whatever version/story is true, if his injury is indeed serious, it is EASILY the worst news this offseason for Denver...

...and I hope he can (does) recover quickly.

[GEM]

Source: Ryan Clady tore patellar tendon playing basketball
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2010 4:43 PM ET
The unbridled enthusiasm coming from Denver in the wake of the Thomas-Tebow round-one haul has hit a relatively major snag.

As Mike Klis of the Denver Post reported earlier today, tackle Ryan Clady suffered a potentially serious knee injury while doing something unrelated to football. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the injury is believed to be a torn patellar tendon. The source says the injury occurred while Clady was playing basketball.

If that's the case, Clady likely will miss all of the 2010 season. A first-round pick in 2008, Clady has started all 32 regular-season games of his career, and he was named to the Pro Bowl and the Associated Press All-Pro team after the 2009 season.

Also, if anyone is interested in signing Flozell Adams, it may be a good idea to get a deal done before the Broncos make a play for him.

Florio is a friggen idiot. He's been proven wrong so many times, I don't know why anyone even bothers with him anymore.

[getlynched47]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/04/28/all-pro-left-tackle-ryan-clady-already-had-surgery/


The blind side of Kyle Orton, the front side of Tim Tebow, just got a little less secure.

Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady had surgery Tuesday at the Steadman Hawkins Clinic in Denver to repair a partially torn patellar tendon, an injury suffered while playing basketball over the weekend, multiple NFL sources confirmed.

Because the tendon was only 50 percent torn, Clady is expected to be out for three months and will be able to play again in four months, meaning he will likely miss the entire preseason. The team is hopeful Clady will be ready in the regular season opener in Jacksonville on Sept. 12.

Broncos running back Correll Buckhalter missed the entire 2004 and 2005 seasons with two different patellar tears, although he suffered each injury in late-August.

Clady will make a $1.02 million salary in his third NFL season as part of the deal he received as the Broncos’ first-round pick, No. 12 overall, in the 2008 draft. He was named to the NFL’s All Pro team in just his second season last year.

Josh McDaniels can see into the future?? :eek:

He saw that Clady was going to partially tear his PCL, so he drafted Zane Beadles on Friday to play Right Tackle so he could shift Ryan Harris to Left Tackle if Clady was out for an extended period of time.

Genius. I'm going to ask him who will win the Super Bowl this year :elefant:

[Broncolingus]

Florio is a friggen idiot. He's been proven wrong so many times, I don't know why anyone even bothers with him anymore.

I'll second that....:salute:

[BigBroncLove]

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/04/28/all-pro-left-tackle-ryan-clady-already-had-surgery/



Josh McDaniels can see into the future?? :eek:

He saw that Clady was going to partially tear his PCL, so he drafted Zane Beadles on Friday to play Right Tackle so he could shift Ryan Harris to Left Tackle if Clady was out for an extended period of time.

Genius. I'm going to ask him who will win the Super Bowl this year :elefant:

Because Clady has already gone under the knife I think it is very likely the injury occurred before the draft, hence the reference to addressing the issue through the draft. I know the story says this weekend but there are a lot of conflicting reports as to when the injury occurred. It will be interesting to see exactly when it did happen...

[weazel]

basketball is one of the main things that should be on a not-to-do in a contract. It's way to easy to injure your ankles and knees in that pathetic sport.

[T.K.O.]

Pro Bowler Clady suffers knee injury playing basketball
NFL.com Wire Reports


Denver Broncos Pro Bowl offensive tackle Ryan Clady tore his patella tendon Wednesday playing basketball, multiple league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora, and is expected to miss an extended period of time.

Ryan Clady, OT
Denver Broncos

Years: 3
Games/Starts: 32/32
Height: 6-6
Weight: 325A source with knowledge of the situation told La Canfora that the tear was not as damaging as it could have been, and Clady's recovery could take three-to-four months. That means he could miss all of the team's offseason and training camp activities, which would also cloud the start of the season for Clady.

Team spokesman Patrick Smythe declined to comment when reached by The Associated Press, saying only that veterans were participating this week in the team's offseason training program. Clady's agent, Pat Dye Jr., didn't immediately return a phone call.

Clady was the 12th overall pick out of Boise State in the 2008 NFL draft. He allowed the fewest sacks among tackles as a rookie and last year became the 11th tackle to earn Pro Bowl honors in his second season.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14976271

The blind side of Kyle Orton, the front side of Tim Tebow, just got a little less secure.

Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady had surgery Tuesday at a Steadman Hawkins Clinic to repair a partially torn patellar tendon, an injury suffered while playing basketball over the weekend, multiple NFL sources confirmed.

Because the tendon was only 50 percent torn, Clady is expected to be out for three months and will be able to play again in four months, meaning he will likely miss the entire preseason. The team is hopeful Clady will be ready in the regular season opener in Jacksonville on Sept. 12.

Broncos running back Correll Buckhalter missed the entire 2004 and 2005 seasons with two different patellar tears, although he suffered each injury in late-August.

Clady will make a $1.02 million salary in his third NFL season as part of the deal he received as the Broncos' first-round pick, No. 12 overall, in the 2008 draft. He was named to the NFL's All Pro team in just his second season last year.

[Tned]

Ouch, this is not good news. As mentioned, about the only good news is that the rookie can get thrown in the deep end and see if he can swim.

[BigDaddyBronco]

Oh ****.....

Ryan Harris at LT and Polumbus at RT. Orton isn't going to survive the season.

Maybe Tebow will start sometime this season after all.

[T.K.O.]

McDaniels hopeful Clady will be ready for the season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 28, 2010 7:40 PM ET
Josh McDaniels appeared on NFL Network Wednesday night and refreshingly didn't bother to deny the widespread reports about tackle Ryan Clady's torn patellar tendon.

"It sounds like you guys are pretty much on top of the story," McDaniels. "It's an unfortunate situation with Ryan, but we're hopeful he'll be ready for the season."

After a wide-ranging interview in which McDaniels talked a lot about Tim Tebow, the Broncos coach was asked if he could guess when Clady will return to the field.

"The injury report will be out in September," McDaniels said before cracking up.

[TXBRONC]

You can actually tear that tendon by jump roping even, it's pretty common. And you do find that receivers actually have bigger problems with it then lineman...and I doubt he actually tried to dunk the ball, I'm pretty sure that a foot off the ground wouldn't do much in the way of getting his big ass closer to the hoop.

:lol:

Good with as long as Clady's reach is he could just about stand flat footed and dunk a ball.

[honz]

Sounds like he is out 3 months. Sucks, but he should be good to go come September.

[Medford Bronco]

It says "non-football related"... it better not be a McDonalds bag...

you mean he did not slip on his dog ala Brian Griese :lol::mad:

[TXBRONC]

This is terrible news and I truly hope he recovers quickly. Not the news any teams wants to hear.

Thanks, and barring any set backs it look like he'll be in camp.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

you mean he did not slip on his dog ala Brian Griese :lol::mad:

That was totally the worst cover story for "I got drunk and fell down the stairs" that I've ever heard someone cook up. Even worse (and what made it even more funny), was when John Madden talked all about it on Monday Night Football that week. He just started going on and on about how Golden Retrievers are so playful and blah, blah, blah - it was ridiculous because the Broncos fans already knew what really happened... :lol:

[Az Snake]

"The injury report will be out in September," McDaniels said before cracking up.


:confused:

[honz]

:confused:

He was making fun of himself...

[pnbronco]

Sounds like he is out 3 months. Sucks, but he should be good to go come September.

I just heard Stink on "The Fan", he talked to one of the top Ortho Dr.s out there. He said that a person could recover from the surgery in 3 months but that doesn't even begin to cover the rehab. Hate to be a downer, but it could be much more serious than they are letting on...dang....:banghead:

[Shazam!]

Relax people... it isnt even May yet.

[BroncoJoe]

LT doesn't matter (as much) with a left handed QB...

:)

[TXBRONC]

I just heard Stink on "The Fan", he talked to one of the top Ortho Dr.s out there. He said that a person could recover from the surgery in 3 months but that doesn't even begin to cover the rehab. Hate to be a downer, but it could be much more serious than they are letting on...dang....:banghead:

That's true it could be more serious, but it might be overblown as well. Clady said he thinks he'll be ready to go for training camp.

[broncobryce]

Clady had this to say about the basketball injury....."All I was doing was trying to win a mother ******* game!" lol

[GGMoogly]

That inconsiderate *******! How dare he distract attention from the TebowLove.:tsk:

[LTC Pain]

Mods can you merge all the tebow threads???

[Elevation inc]

I just heard Stink on "The Fan", he talked to one of the top Ortho Dr.s out there. He said that a person could recover from the surgery in 3 months but that doesn't even begin to cover the rehab. Hate to be a downer, but it could be much more serious than they are letting on...dang....:banghead:

from personal experience it took 5-6 weeks for me to start rehab both times after surgery. I tore my rt knee patellar tendon 2 seperate years about 40%.....my rehab the first time went really well and i was about 90% in ten weeks.....the second time it took a few weeks longer.....i would say almost 13weeks before i was at 90%

he didnt tear all the way through which is good, thats why its a 3-4 month timetable....as i mentioned in a earlier post i had a friend in high school who completely tore his and it took him seven months to get back.......

i believe buckhalter had a patellar issue as well back in 2005 and missed a full season becasue of it...but his was a complete tear if im not mistaken.....

[KyleOrtonArmySoldier#128]

He just hasn't been the same since he cut the dreads :tsk:

[getagrip]

from personal experience it took 5-6 weeks for me to start rehab both times after surgery. I tore my rt knee patellar tendon 2 seperate years about 40%.....my rehab the first time went really well and i was about 90% in ten weeks.....the second time it took a few weeks longer.....i would say almost 13weeks before i was at 90%

he didnt tear all the way through which is good, thats why its a 3-4 month timetable....as i mentioned in a earlier post i had a friend in high school who completely tore his and it took him seven months to get back.......

i believe buckhalter had a patellar issue as well back in 2005 and missed a full season becasue of it...but his was a complete tear if im not mistaken.....

Never good to hear of any player on ANY team that gets hurt...

That being said,

Your recovery was fast but how much do you weigh? Ryan needs to recover to hold up 300lbs and push 300lbs linemen around (which he has done over an over...)

[Lonestar]

Last thing I heard was 5 months before he could play.

But rarely are they the same presence the First year/season. Like any major KNEE surgery players are tentative on that knee.

This is not Stink who would have something scoped @0730 on a game day and be on the field after half time.

Looks like the rookie see a lot more time on the field this year. Kinda glad we got some spares in the draft and sounds like Both our blocking TE's will be staying at home and rarely used in patterns.

YO Josh better have Tebow ready faster than you planned initialy.

I suspect he will see the field earlier and more because he is more mobile


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[CoachChaz]

Harris at LT and Polumbus at RT to start the season. Clady probably wont miss the whole season or much of it...but he wont be on the field to start the season.

[KyleOrtonArmySoldier#128]

Looks like we're shopping for a tackle, those guys are not a dime a dozen. :(

[Dzone]

This is devastating.

[Elevation inc]

Never good to hear of any player on ANY team that gets hurt...

That being said,

Your recovery was fast but how much do you weigh? Ryan needs to recover to hold up 300lbs and push 300lbs linemen around (which he has done over an over...)

my first recovery was fast my second was normal........as i sated its a complete tear where you have to worry about six plus months...according to reports he tore it 50%.....mine was about the same wasn't a full tear either time....

if im honest with mysefl based off my expierience....i would say expect him about 90% with out risk of re-injury for week 1(they might not start him as precaution week 1, but he shouldnt miss more than 1 or 2 games........he wont be fully 100%, but he wont be a liability and risk damage either....but hey he could be a really quick healer as well....

[Gimpygod]

Why would the Broncos get any of his signing bonus back? It's not contingent on his health, that would be a roster bonus and would be more of incentive based then anything. Look, I know it sucks...but these kids are human, we can not ask them to quit behing human for the sake of their jobs...it's just as easy to tear the petellar tendon in a weight room or in practice as it is playing a game of basketball. It's not like he was skydiving or riding a motorcycle and getting into accidents, trying some extreme sports for the hell of it. Hopefully he's alright and able to return sooner rather then later...

I would agree with you but even the guy who saluted your post would not. These guys are supposed to be robots who do not feel anything except blind devotion. They are Not allowed to be upset if someone tries to trade them for an inferior player who is the coach's buddy buddy, they aren't allowed to be irked if they are the top receiver in the league and get relegated to special teams and they sure as hell shouldn't be doing activities which might hurt them outside of the game (actually, they really should not). I just hope when he gets back from the injury and Josh McDaniels benches him for not thinking about the team, he takes it and grins like he's eating blueberry pie or else the folks here will call him a crybaby traitor and want to get rid of him.

Also, the main lesson we have learned over the McDaniels regime is that no player really makes any difference to the team regardless of talent. So why do we care if Clady is hurt? We simply plug-in somebody else who has a great attitude and work ethic and we won't miss a beat. Unless the whole idea of talent being irrelevant is bull crap... is it bull crap?

[Lonestar]

Broncos' Clady out for 3-4 months
All-pro left tackle tears patellar tendon playing hoops, could be back for season opener.
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
POSTED: 04/29/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT


Left tackle Ryan Clady has started all 32 games in his two seasons with the Broncos and was named to the all-pro team last year. He's likely to miss three to four months after tearing his patellar tendon playing basketball. (Cyrus McCrimmon, Denver Post )
With stunning, but unwanted, foresight, the Broncos selected Utah offensive tackle Zane Beadles with their second-round draft pick a week ago.

The next day, Broncos all-pro left tackle Ryan Clady tore up his knee playing basketball, according to multiple NFL sources, and will likely miss the next three to four months. It's possible, therefore, that Beadles just passed Tim Tebow as the most significant player in the Broncos' recent draft.

Clady, the Broncos' first-round pick in 2008, suffered a tear in his left patellar tendon last Saturday. He underwent surgery Tuesday at the Steadman Hawkins Clinic in Denver to repair the injury, according to sources. The 6-foot-6, 325-pound Clady is likely to miss the preseason, but the Broncos' hope is that he is available for the team's regular-season opener Sept. 12 at Jacksonville.

"It's an unfortunate situation with Ryan, but we're hopeful everything will be OK for the season," Broncos coach Josh McDaniels told the NFL Network.

Who will replace Clady at left tackle until he returns? On the Broncos' roster, Beadles, Ryan Harris and Tyler Polumbus all played left tackle in college. All are considered better right tackles in the NFL, however.

The 6-4, 310-pound Beadles played his past three collegiate seasons at left tackle but projects as a right tackle or even a guard. McDaniels said last week he would have Beadles start out by playing right tackle.

Most likely, Polumbus, an undrafted third-year player from the University of Colorado, will take first-team reps at left tackle when the Broncos conduct their first organized training activity (OTA) on May 17-19. The Broncos will hold a rookie-only camp Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Polumbus and Harris each started eight games at right tackle last year. Harris is the first-team right tackle but is coming off surgery to repair a fractured big toe.

The Broncos also could consider free agent Flozell Adams or New Orleans' Jammal Brown, who may be available for trade.

Make no mistake, Clady's injury is serious enough that the Broncos will consider a Plan B. When Broncos running back Correll Buckhalter was playing for the Philadelphia Eagles, he missed the entire 2004 and 2005 seasons with two different patellar tears.

However, Buckhalter suffered each injury in late August. Clady may have time to recover.

A case can be made that Clady is the Broncos' best offensive player. Known for his agility and athleticism, Clady was selected with the No. 12 pick from Boise State two years ago by Mike Shanahan, then the Broncos coach.

Clady will make $1.02 million in his third NFL season as part of the $14.75 million deal he received before his rookie year. He has started all 32 games in his two seasons.

Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14979984

[BigBroncLove]

my first recovery was fast my second was normal........as i sated its a complete tear where you have to worry about six plus months...according to reports he tore it 50%.....mine was about the same wasn't a full tear either time....

if im honest with mysefl based off my expierience....i would say expect him about 90% with out risk of re-injury for week 1(they might not start him as precaution week 1, but he shouldnt miss more than 1 or 2 games........he wont be fully 100%, but he wont be a liability and risk damage either....but hey he could be a really quick healer as well....

Well I hope your personal experience runs closely inline with what Clady will experience. I know coaches build depth for a reason and the team, regardless of the situation, will have to adapt (plus it's a long way from regular season football) but its something that as a fan is a pretty ugly cause for concern. It's a unit that could benefit from being able to become cohesive with the interior in flux as it currently is. I think having the anchors Clady and Harris doing their best work at their respective positions is a big part of that. At the very least you'd like to have Clady back by week 3 at 100%.

Jacksonville and Seattle (week 1 and 2 respectively) I believe the Broncos can get by with a good showing from Harris/Polumbus or Harris/Beadles. If Beadles is showing good play... well I normally wouldn't say this but I would prefer him seeing snaps. Polumbus's play is admirable but lacking. Reminds me a bit to much of Erik Pears and his step out seems a tick to slow.

With Kearney retired the edges seem a bit safer against the Hawks, and though Jacksonville addressed their front four with their first 4 picks none of the newly drafted DE's, nor their tenured DE's, are guys you game plan around. Once we hit Indy in week 3 I think the Broncos will really need Clady at 100%. Freeney is worry enough, but with the Titans, Ravens, and Jets behind them I think we'll really need Clady out there. Of course its all conjecture right now about how long it'll take Clady to find his way back to the field but any prolonged period of time without him during the regular season has images of 2006 when Matt Lepsis went down swirling in my head.

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Oh ****.....

Ryan Harris at LT and Polumbus at RT. Orton isn't going to survive the season.

Maybe Tebow will start sometime this season after all.

Fortunately, Orton has been well seasoned behind pathetic O-lines (see Chicago).

And I don't think this O-line will be pathetic, just not quite as good . . .

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[dogfish]

we do have an additional second next year-- i wouldn't hate trading for jamaal brown if he's all the way healed, and the price isn't exorbitant. . . he's not that old, and he's a former pro bowl left tackle who could be even better at right tackle. . . he's 6'6", 313, and new orleans does plenty of man blocking. . .

would give us some legit depth and insurance, which would be great given that harris has injury concerns as well. . . can you imagine a scenario with polumbus and beadles as our starting tackles? :eek: :fear: IF clady's healthy for week one you let harris and brown compete at RT, but more so having another guy could potentially keep us from rushing clady back too soon. . .

and we could potentially trade harris next year and recoup some if not all of the value we gave for brown. . . that would let beadles focus on playing guard, and potentially give us an O-line of clady - beadles - walton - kuper - brown. . . plug 'em in and let them grow together for the next 3-5 years. . .

i know brown's older than harris, and obviously a bit of a risk coming off an injury, but he's also a lot better than flozell adams assuming he's healthy and back to form. . .

[Lonestar]

Fortunately, Orton has been well seasoned behind pathetic O-lines (see Chicago).

And I don't think this O-line will be pathetic, just not quite as good . . .

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Lets see

Harris back from season ending surgery MAYBE otherwise Rookie OLT

Rookie OLG

Rookie OC

KUPER

Polumbus or Rookie ORT


Yes Lots to have faith in.

Even if they have the strength to do good all of them will be singing a different song till mid season.

Sorry but our Qb better be fleet a foot. VERY FLEET

[broncofaninfla]

Ryan Clady Tears Patellar Tendon Playing Basketball (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/source-ryan-clady-tore-patellar-tendon-playing-basketball/)

Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/15597/ryan-clady) has apparently torn his patellar tendon while playing basketball. This is, very obviously, a catastrophic injury for the Broncos, who were already undergoing changes across their offense, and the first example of the injury regression that should be expected to come their way in 2010. I'll update this post with more about Clady's injuries and his comparables in a bit.
UPDATE: This is getting interesting. Adam Schefter and Jason LaCanfora are both reporting that Clady will only miss 3-4 months, and should be able to return for training camp.
Something's amiss here. We have a wide variety of players listed with torn patellar tendons in our injury database. I can't find a single player that managed to either recover from a torn patella in the middle of a season in three months time, or a player that suffered a torn patella in the offseason and then recovered to start the season. Not one.
In fact, there's only one player I can find who didn't miss the entire year with their torn patellar tendon. Perhaps the closest comparison to Clady is Seahawks center Robbie Tobeck (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17904/robbie-tobeck), who tore his patella tendon in May (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000613&slug=4026514) of 2000. Tobeck went on the Physically Unable to Perform list to start the season, and only managed to play in four games, none as a starter. LeCharles Bentley (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17320/lecharles-bentley) of the Browns, another center, tore his patella in July of 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239) and was immediately placed on injured reserve. He never played again, although that had much more to do with staph eating his knee than the initial injury.
Every other player I've found with a torn patella went on IR or missed more than six months. In fact, every other instance of a player appearing on the injury list (besides those on injured reserve) with a torn patella is an example of a player being listed with that injury from the previous season. Several players were expected to come back from the injury, were placed on the PUP list or were inactive to start the season, and then ended up on IR -- Germane Crowell (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/19014/germane-crowell) in 2001 and Gary Baxter (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17313/gary-baxter) in 2007 are examples. Nate Webster (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17165/nate-webster) came off of PUP in 2005 but was never healthy enough to make the active roster.
In other words, it's impossible to reconcile history with the idea that Clady's going to be back by August. So either one of three things are true here:
1) Clady doesn't have a torn patellar tendon
2) The Broncos and/or Clady are misinforming people about the expected timeframe of his injury
3) Clady is superhuman and will heal at a rate no NFL player ever has.

[Nomad]

On the website of this injury, it says a person with a torn partella tendon is basically not ready for active use until 6 months and isn't fully recovered for 12 months! Maybe Clady's superhuman!!

[Tned-Mobile]

On the website of this injury, it says a person with a torn partella tendon is basically not ready for active use until 6 months and isn't fully recovered for 12 months! Maybe Clady's superhuman!!

At least one of the earlier reports was that it was not a full rupture, but a 50% tear. Hopefully, :fingerscrossed:, that is why they are saying 3-4 months.

[Gimpygod]

Again, I have no idea what a lot of you are talking about. Why does it matter if this guy who never touches the ball (excluding that absolutely horrible screenplay to him last year) mmissing some time. Who cares? We have been hemorrhaging talent like a European nobleman hemophiliac and a lot of the "knowledgeable" football guys such as JR, coach, shazam and others put forth brilliant arguments about how we were going to be better off without them. now we are losing the guy whose performance dropped off dramatically last year and the stats don't lie: in his first year Clady gave up .5 sacks and then last year he gave up 2.5 sacks! We know it wasn't the coach, it wasn't the scheme and it sure as hell wasn't the hundred year old oak we have as a quarterback so we can only assume his skills are sliding. We know this is true because the exact same thing has been said of Eddie Royal. Project those numbers and he would have 12 1/2 sacks this year and an astounding 62 1/2 sacks in the next year... I say good riddance to this slumping talent, has been and me first guy, who thinks playing a child's game is more important than his job. Don't let the door hit you in the fat ass on the way out, Clady!!! Unless the reasoning being put forth on this board has been faulty... that can't be it.

[CoachChaz]

SOrry...you can call me and my "knowledge" out all you want, but I dont recall ever saying we could win without talent.

Maybe none of know anything about players or the game...who knows. But we're all still waiting for you to contribute something positive to this board. I have a feeling Clady retires befor that happens.

[Elevation inc]

Ryan Clady Tears Patellar Tendon Playing Basketball (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/source-ryan-clady-tore-patellar-tendon-playing-basketball/)

Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/15597/ryan-clady) has apparently torn his patellar tendon while playing basketball. This is, very obviously, a catastrophic injury for the Broncos, who were already undergoing changes across their offense, and the first example of the injury regression that should be expected to come their way in 2010. I'll update this post with more about Clady's injuries and his comparables in a bit.
UPDATE: This is getting interesting. Adam Schefter and Jason LaCanfora are both reporting that Clady will only miss 3-4 months, and should be able to return for training camp.
Something's amiss here. We have a wide variety of players listed with torn patellar tendons in our injury database. I can't find a single player that managed to either recover from a torn patella in the middle of a season in three months time, or a player that suffered a torn patella in the offseason and then recovered to start the season. Not one.
In fact, there's only one player I can find who didn't miss the entire year with their torn patellar tendon. Perhaps the closest comparison to Clady is Seahawks center Robbie Tobeck (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17904/robbie-tobeck), who tore his patella tendon in May (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000613&slug=4026514) of 2000. Tobeck went on the Physically Unable to Perform list to start the season, and only managed to play in four games, none as a starter. LeCharles Bentley (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17320/lecharles-bentley) of the Browns, another center, tore his patella in July of 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239) and was immediately placed on injured reserve. He never played again, although that had much more to do with staph eating his knee than the initial injury.
Every other player I've found with a torn patella went on IR or missed more than six months. In fact, every other instance of a player appearing on the injury list (besides those on injured reserve) with a torn patella is an example of a player being listed with that injury from the previous season. Several players were expected to come back from the injury, were placed on the PUP list or were inactive to start the season, and then ended up on IR -- Germane Crowell (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/19014/germane-crowell) in 2001 and Gary Baxter (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17313/gary-baxter) in 2007 are examples. Nate Webster (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/17165/nate-webster) came off of PUP in 2005 but was never healthy enough to make the active roster.
In other words, it's impossible to reconcile history with the idea that Clady's going to be back by August. So either one of three things are true here:
1) Clady doesn't have a torn patellar tendon
2) The Broncos and/or Clady are misinforming people about the expected timeframe of his injury
3) Clady is superhuman and will heal at a rate no NFL player ever has.



these guys do know once you go on IR its for good doesnt mean they werent healthy before six months.....they could have been completely recovered but because they were put on IR they cant play or PUP for that matter.....its case by case...period!!!!!

i mean when you are put on IR your seasons done didnt mean you werent haelthy by game 1, the team could have just said screw it and made other plans, not wanting to wait for 3 months while someone was laready good and you hadnt played all off-season.......there is always a chnace we do that to clady, but it doesnt mean it takes six months or he aint healthy in 3.....

[Gimpygod]

SOrry...you can call me and my "knowledge" out all you want, but I dont recall ever saying we could win without talent.

Maybe none of know anything about players or the game...who knows. But we're all still waiting for you to contribute something positive to this board. I have a feeling Clady retires befor that happens.

please see every post I ever wrote prior to McDaniel getting here. Especially the ones where I was accused of having orange colored glasses on a regular basis. To help your search put in, "everything Shanahan does is crap And he may be at least indirectly responsible for the Holocaust."

Just one example: http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=490946&postcount=69

Heck, the Latin under my name means keeper of hope.

I would go through your posts and show where you have been saying that nobody else knows stuff about coaching like you do, the talented players we lost are not important. Or I could also serve up tons of negative stuff you put forth in your opinions of Shanahan and his coaching. But I would rather scoop out my eyes with a melon baller than spend a day sifting through that dross.

Also, please note Carol, Gem, T- ned and many others do not fit in this category because they have been positive toward the Broncos throughout my entire time here. I Am mostly confused by those who found flaw and faulted Shanahan for everything and now seem to think McDaniels hasn't made a single mistake or may have a coaching philosophy that simply doesn't work.

[CoachChaz]

please see every post I ever wrote prior to McDaniel getting here. Especially the ones where I was accused of having orange colored glasses on a regular basis. To help your search put in, "everything Shanahan does is crap And he may be at least indirectly responsible for the Holocaust."

Just one example: http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=490946&postcount=69

Heck, the Latin under my name means keeper of hope.

I would go through your posts and show where you have been saying that nobody else knows stuff about coaching like you do, the talented players we lost are not important. Or I could also serve up tons of negative stuff you put forth in your opinions of Shanahan and his coaching. But I would rather scoop out my eyes with a melon baller than spend a day sifting through that dross.

Also, please note Carol, Gem, T- ned and many others do not fit in this category because they have been positive toward the Broncos throughout my entire time here. I Am mostly confused by those who found flaw and faulted Shanahan for everything and now seem to think McDaniels hasn't made a single mistake or may have a coaching philosophy that simply doesn't work.

If you can find ONE post where I ever said no one knows more about coaching than I do ...and also show where it wasnt just your dilusional translation of an opinion...then I will leave this forum forever.

Same on the Shanny thing.

[Nomad]

INC, I am going by what the medical website I had found but the 6 to 12 months is complete tears according to the site. I'm by far a doctor and I know each individual heals differently. Main thing is the big man heals fast and hopefully it's not too serious.

[CoachChaz]

I keep hearing he shouldnt miss but maybe a week or two of the season, but the biggest loss is missing the field time in transitioning to the power blocking scheme. He'll get the classroom/meeting stuff...but not the hands on appraoch

[SOCALORADO.]

please see every post I ever wrote prior to McDaniel getting here. Especially the ones where I was accused of having orange colored glasses on a regular basis. To help your search put in, "everything Shanahan does is crap And he may be at least indirectly responsible for the Holocaust."

Just one example: http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=490946&postcount=69

Heck, the Latin under my name means keeper of hope.

I would go through your posts and show where you have been saying that nobody else knows stuff about coaching like you do, the talented players we lost are not important. Or I could also serve up tons of negative stuff you put forth in your opinions of Shanahan and his coaching. But I would rather scoop out my eyes with a melon baller than spend a day sifting through that dross.

Also, please note Carol, Gem, T- ned and many others do not fit in this category because they have been positive toward the Broncos throughout my entire time here. I Am mostly confused by those who found flaw and faulted Shanahan for everything and now seem to think McDaniels hasn't made a single mistake or may have a coaching philosophy that simply doesn't work.

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[Lonestar]

please see every post I ever wrote prior to McDaniel getting here. Especially the ones where I was accused of having orange colored glasses on a regular basis. To help your search put in, "everything Shanahan does is crap And he may be at least indirectly responsible for the Holocaust."

Just one example: http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=490946&postcount=69

Heck, the Latin under my name means keeper of hope.

I would go through your posts and show where you have been saying that nobody else knows stuff about coaching like you do, the talented players we lost are not important. Or I could also serve up tons of negative stuff you put forth in your opinions of Shanahan and his coaching. But I would rather scoop out my eyes with a melon baller than spend a day sifting through that dross.

Also, please note Carol, Gem, T- ned and many others do not fit in this category because they have been positive toward the Broncos throughout my entire time here. I Am mostly confused by those who found flaw and faulted Shanahan for everything and now seem to think McDaniels hasn't made a single mistake or may have a coaching philosophy that simply doesn't work.

Well I guess you think from this post that mike left us with nothing but stellar all pros.

When in fact excepting perhaps Kuper, Clady and just maybe Harris the OLine was/is a house of cards.
The RB were all superstuds also if you only measure the yards between the 20's.
As for WR Stokey and fast Eddie were cream of the crop with marshall and jay both major headcases. Almost no one on the sqaud being TEAM players.

Pat knew this a hired a HC that came from a TEAM 1st tree.

He wanted change or he would have promoted Rick D. It is time that everyone starts to understand that and if it does not fit into the "speak" that has been said over the past year since mike was fired for cause. Then how sad for you.

Time wake up to the reality PAT wanted to change to the NE model and that is what he GOT.

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Lets see

Harris back from season ending surgery MAYBE otherwise Rookie OLT

Rookie OLG

Rookie OC

KUPER

Polumbus or Rookie ORT


Yes Lots to have faith in.

Even if they have the strength to do good all of them will be singing a different song till mid season.

Sorry but our Qb better be fleet a foot. VERY FLEET

Perhaps a little study in Chicago Bears history would be in order.

As I said, Orton has had plenty of success behind a bad O-line.

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[BroncoNut]

Again, I have no idea what a lot of you are talking about. Why does it matter if this guy who never touches the ball (excluding that absolutely horrible screenplay to him last year) mmissing some time. Who cares? We have been hemorrhaging talent like a European nobleman hemophiliac and a lot of the "knowledgeable" football guys such as JR, coach, shazam and others put forth brilliant arguments about how we were going to be better off without them. now we are losing the guy whose performance dropped off dramatically last year and the stats don't lie: in his first year Clady gave up .5 sacks and then last year he gave up 2.5 sacks! We know it wasn't the coach, it wasn't the scheme and it sure as hell wasn't the hundred year old oak we have as a quarterback so we can only assume his skills are sliding. We know this is true because the exact same thing has been said of Eddie Royal. Project those numbers and he would have 12 1/2 sacks this year and an astounding 62 1/2 sacks in the next year... I say good riddance to this slumping talent, has been and me first guy, who thinks playing a child's game is more important than his job. Don't let the door hit you in the fat ass on the way out, Clady!!! Unless the reasoning being put forth on this board has been faulty... that can't be it.

Is this sarcastic?

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INC, I am going by what the medical website I had found but the 6 to 12 months is complete tears according to the site. I'm by far a doctor and I know each individual heals differently. Main thing is the big man heals fast and hopefully it's not too serious.

thats what i said all through out this thread if it was complete he would be looking at a lengthy recovery he tore only 50%...if that is true and thst the only info we have so far he should be back to playing football by week 1.....now there can obviously be a number of factors going into that does he heal well or not, does rehab go well or not.....but with a partial tear its not near as seriosu and thst why site like football outsiders are pissing me off.


i have had the injury on 2 seperate occasions from boarding over here, and neitehr time took six months....both times it probally wasnt the smartest idea to brace up after 12 weeks and get back on a board, but i made it just fine.


with clady we could decide its not worth the risk and he will miss all the info for a power schem and we could put him on PUP or IR which is what happened to those other guys.....

my point is if he only tore it 50% like teh reports said....if he does what he is supoposed to and follows the rehab he should at least be able to practcie by week 1.....he may not be 100% and the staff might not want to risk him and we may IR him or PUP him but that doesnt mean he couldnt have played....just means maybe for long term interest he should protect himself....


my dad is a docter, my step mom a nurse.....i have been around medical people all my life...i am no expert on medical stuff but i had the injury first hand as a 25 and 27 year old who probally isnt even in as great a shape as clady, my patellar injury was on the same knee, yet i came back both times in 12 weeks to do the sport i love.....will this happen for clady? cant say for ceratin, but i know from expierience its not likely to be a 6 month process unless something goes wrong because he didnt tear it all the way according to reports...