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Denver Native (Carol)
04-17-2010, 05:19 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/17/the-truth-on-the-brandon-marshall-deal/

Now that NBC has produced and aired a commercial that makes us look a lot better at this than we really are, we need to periodically put something up here that justifies the characterization.

So here's one to consider.

Many of you have wondered how and why the Miami Dolphins could have made Brandon Marshall the highest-paid receiver in NFL history. The easy answer, as we pointed out the other day, is that they didn't -- his widely-reported four-year, $47.5 million extension fairly should be regarded at best as a five-year, $50 million contract, giving Marshall a $10 million annual average that matches the yearly total paid to Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

For starters, the full contract is worth $47.3 million over five years. It contains a phony $2.7 million roster bonus payable in 2014 -- but only if Marshall participates in 95 percent or more of the Dolphins' special teams plays in 2010.

Why would this be included? To allow Marshall and his agent to characterize the contract as a package worth $10 million per year. Truth be told, it's worth $9.46 million annually.

(That may not seem like much of a difference, but the phantom roster bonus allows Marshall and his agent, Kennard McGuire, to claim with a straight face that Marshall is getting $10 million per year.)

Then there's the notion that the Dolphins would pay $24 million in guaranteed money to a guy with a history of off-field incidents. Surely, V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells hasn't lost his mind, right?

He hasn't. (Or, more accurately, if he has, this isn't proof of it.)

With the 2009 decision in the Plaxico Burress grievance that signing bonus money can be recovered only if the player holds out or retires, a $20 million signing bonus would have been untouchable, even if Marshall had been suspended for a year or longer. So the Dolphins instead have paid out a signing bonus of $5.5 million. Coupled with a guaranteed base salary (for skill and injury) of $4 million in 2010, Marshall's contract has a minimum value of $9.5 million over one year.

Here's the kicker. If the Dolphins decide before April 2, 2011 that Marshall isn't who they thought he was, they can walk away, possibly without paying Marshall another penny. Prior to April 2, 2011, he has only $3 million in future guaranteed money that already has been unlocked. But the contract contains offset language; if they cut him and someone else pays him $3 million in 2011, the Dolphins are off the hook for the balance of the contract.

And even if the Broncos pay a $3 million option bonus due on April 2, 2011, guaranteed base salaries of $6.5 million in 2011 and $6 million in 2012 (he also has $3 million in non-guaranteed base pay in 2012) can be nullified if Marshall is suspended by the league.

So, for now, the only guaranteed money is $12.5 million, with an offset for up to $3 million. If the Dolphins decided to keep him past April 2, 2011, another $9.5 million in guaranteed base salaries will be available -- as long as Marshall stays out of trouble.

These facts are another reason why it's always dangerous to accept at face value the numbers that the player's camp begins to parrot as soon as the deal is signed.

The problem is that the agent has an incentive to get a skewed version of the contract into the media, the team rarely is willing to say anything that would dampen the "highest paid player!" parade, and the reporter who gets the information often is so determined to be first that the question of whether or not the information is accurate often gets lost in the shuffle. (And, yes, we've done that once or twice -- and we hope that we have learned from it.)

T.K.O.
04-17-2010, 05:28 PM
The truth on the Brandon Marshall deal
Posted by Mike Florio on April 17, 2010 5:57 PM ET
Now that NBC has produced and aired a commercial that makes us look a lot better at this than we really are, we need to periodically put something up here that justifies the characterization.

So here's one to consider.

Many of you have wondered how and why the Miami Dolphins could have made Brandon Marshall the highest-paid receiver in NFL history. The easy answer, as we pointed out the other day, is that they didn't -- his widely-reported four-year, $47.5 million extension fairly should be regarded at best as a five-year, $50 million contract, giving Marshall a $10 million annual average that matches the yearly total paid to Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

For starters, the full contract is worth $47.3 million over five years. It contains a phony $2.7 million roster bonus payable in 2014 -- but only if Marshall participates in 95 percent or more of the Dolphins' special teams plays in 2010.

Why would this be included? To allow Marshall and his agent to characterize the contract as a package worth $10 million per year. Truth be told, it's worth $9.46 million annually.

(That may not seem like much of a difference, but the phantom roster bonus allows Marshall and his agent, Kennard McGuire, to claim with a straight face that Marshall is getting $10 million per year.)

Then there's the notion that the Dolphins would pay $24 million in guaranteed money to a guy with a history of off-field incidents. Surely, V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells hasn't lost his mind, right?

He hasn't. (Or, more accurately, if he has, this isn't proof of it.)

With the 2009 decision in the Plaxico Burress grievance that signing bonus money can be recovered only if the player holds out or retires, a $20 million signing bonus would have been untouchable, even if Marshall had been suspended for a year or longer. So the Dolphins instead have paid out a signing bonus of $5.5 million. Coupled with a guaranteed base salary (for skill and injury) of $4 million in 2010, Marshall's contract has a minimum value of $9.5 million over one year.

Here's the kicker. If the Dolphins decide before April 2, 2011 that Marshall isn't who they thought he was, they can walk away, possibly without paying Marshall another penny. Prior to April 2, 2011, he has only $3 million in future guaranteed money that already has been unlocked. But the contract contains offset language; if they cut him and someone else pays him $3 million in 2011, the Dolphins are off the hook for the balance of the contract.

And even if the Broncos ( i assume this is a brainfart)pay a $3 million option bonus due on April 2, 2011, guaranteed base salaries of $6.5 million in 2011 and $6 million in 2012 (he also has $3 million in non-guaranteed base pay in 2012) can be nullified if Marshall is suspended by the league.

So, for now, the only guaranteed money is $12.5 million, with an offset for up to $3 million. If the Dolphins decided to keep him past April 2, 2011, another $9.5 million in guaranteed base salaries will be available -- as long as Marshall stays out of trouble.

These facts are another reason why it's always dangerous to accept at face value the numbers that the player's camp begins to parrot as soon as the deal is signed.

The problem is that the agent has an incentive to get a skewed version of the contract into the media, the team rarely is willing to say anything that would dampen the "highest paid player!" parade, and the reporter who gets the information often is so determined to be first that the question of whether or not the information is accurate often gets lost in the shuffle. (And, yes, we've done that once or twice -- and we hope that we have learned from it.)

Ravage!!!
04-17-2010, 05:53 PM
seems like a contract that Denver should have offered, considering the wording of this one.

T.K.O.
04-17-2010, 06:14 PM
seems like a contract that Denver should have offered, considering the wording of this one.

maybe but.... that would not have solved the problem of whether or not he wanted to stay and or could co-exist with mcD successfully.
he's happy to be back near his home

silkamilkamonico
04-17-2010, 06:20 PM
maybe but.... that would not have solved the problem of whether or not he wanted to stay and or could co-exist with mcD successfully.
he's happy to be back near his home

He could have co-existed with McDaniels and vice versa, that much is clear. I don't think Denver wanted to sign him to a contract of that magnitude in fear of something happening.

Like what was said, it was in the best interest of both parties to part ways.

I don't understand why Marshall and his agent wanted the label of being the highest paid, if that wasn't true. It's like a "my ---- is bigger than yours" argument.

Big deal.

Ravage!!!
04-17-2010, 06:22 PM
maybe but.... that would not have solved the problem of whether or not he wanted to stay and or could co-exist with mcD successfully.
he's happy to be back near his home

You are absolutely right. That was the main reason that Marshall is gone, and not really the contract. :beer:

Denver Native (Carol)
04-17-2010, 06:25 PM
seems like a contract that Denver should have offered, considering the wording of this one.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/

The Broncos had been through too much drama with Marshall to seriously consider investing in him long-term. The team did present a multiyear offer, worth an annual average of $9.5 million, to Marshall, but the contract language included a small guarantee and several safeguards against misconduct.

silkamilkamonico
04-17-2010, 06:29 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/

The Broncos had been through too much drama with Marshall to seriously consider investing in him long-term. The team did present a multiyear offer, worth an annual average of $9.5 million, to Marshall, but the contract language included a small guarantee and several safeguards against misconduct.

Bingo....and that's why he isn't in Denver. Great post Carol.

Lonestar
04-17-2010, 07:40 PM
He could have co-existed with McDaniels and vice versa, that much is clear. I don't think Denver wanted to sign him to a contract of that magnitude in fear of something happening.

Like what was said, it was in the best interest of both parties to part ways.

I don't understand why Marshall and his agent wanted the label of being the highest paid, if that wasn't true. It's like a "my ---- is bigger than yours" argument.

Big deal.


His agent has a vested interest, now he can go to other WR's and they will respect him more. For that matter any player. as for BM he can say that he it was worth it to leave DEN.

Wanna bet this kid FUBARS it and loses all of his "money" with in 5 years.

and his dick is bigger than yours. :laugh:

Lonestar
04-17-2010, 07:43 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/

The Broncos had been through too much drama with Marshall to seriously consider investing in him long-term. The team did present a multiyear offer, worth an annual average of $9.5 million, to Marshall, but the contract language included a small guarantee and several safeguards against misconduct.

Watch out Carol since you can't prove he was offered the contract, lots of BM fans are gonna come after you.:salute:

But then if he was not offered that contract why did he get all pissy in Training camp?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Denver Native (Carol)
04-17-2010, 08:00 PM
Watch out Carol since you can't prove he was offered the contract, lots of BM fans are gonna come after you.:salute:

But then if he was not offered that contract why did he get all pissy in Training camp?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I was one of them that wanted Brandon to stay - that hoped things would work out; however, it did not work out - so I am moving on, and I do wish him well, and truly hope that he has matured.

silkamilkamonico
04-17-2010, 09:35 PM
and his dick is bigger than yours. :laugh:

You like that spectacle don't ya.....

:laugh:

Broncolingus
04-17-2010, 09:45 PM
I have now reached my 'final' on this...

...BM (now and forever 'Bowel Movement') simply wanted out of Denver - period.

McD, injuries, closer to Miami (or home), yada-yada-yada...

...bottom line is the dude simply didn't want to play here and that's it.

NOW (and also final)...moving on...

Nomad
04-18-2010, 08:04 AM
!:ohwell: Now we know the real Brandon Marshall and the idea of him and Mcdaniels not coexisting is bs!!

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Jets were ready to give up first round pick for Marshall
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 18, 2010 8:37 AM ET
The Broncos nearly got the first round pick they wanted for Brandon Marshall.

As recently as the league's annual meetings, the Jets were reportedly the favorites for Marshall, according to Mike Klis of the Denver Post.

New York was comfortable giving up their first round pick for Marshall, and tried to sign the now-Dolphin to an offer sheet. The Jets, however, couldn't come up with a contract that made Marshall happy. The offer sheet never came, the Jets moved on, and the Dolphins began to show interest about one week later.

Klis reports that the Seahawks were the most aggressive team throughout the process, but the Bucs also showed serious interest.

It's not like the AFC East needed any more subplots, but keep this news in mind if Marshall starts rampaging through Revis Island this year.

EMB6903
04-18-2010, 09:35 AM
Denver couldnt dish out a contract like this?

Ravage!!!
04-18-2010, 11:03 AM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/

The Broncos had been through too much drama with Marshall to seriously consider investing in him long-term. The team did present a multiyear offer, worth an annual average of $9.5 million, to Marshall, but the contract language included a small guarantee and several safeguards against misconduct.

A blog from Lindsy Jones,and one that other writers even questioned if it really existed. THis is the kind of contract that they KNEW would not be accepted, because no smart player would accept such an offer.

Ravage!!!
04-18-2010, 11:07 AM
But then if he was not offered that contract why did he get all pissy in Training camp?

:lol: :lol: :lol: YOU JUST ANSWERED your own question, when making your attempt to be a smart-ass! :lol:

He got pissy at TC, because he wasn't offered the contract extension he felt he was promised. If he wasn't offered a contract, he would get pissy.... see how that works? :lol: