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Lonestar
03-26-2010, 11:11 PM
Does Mike Shanahan have O-line envy?
By LINDSAY JONES


ORLANDO — Former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan made his return to the NFL’s annual meetings this year, now as the head coach of the Washington Redskins.

He met with reporters for about an hour this morning, talking about various players on his new team, of course. But he also couldn’t help discussing guys from his old team, including a number of current Broncos.

It was clear from that discussion — started by a question about zone blocking — that Shanahan felt very strongly about the group of offensive linemen he left behind in Denver when he was fired after the 2008 season. The starters that year were tackles Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris, guards Chris Kuper and Ben Hamilton and center Casey Wiegmann.

Shanahan said that the best proof he has that zone blocking works is that the Broncos averaged 4.8 rushing yards per carry in 2008, despite an unheard of spate of injuries to the team’s running backs (six ended up on injured reserve).

Among the biggest questions Shanahan faces as he starts his first year in Washington is who will play left tackle, an unfamiliar issue for Shanahan after having the solid Matt Lepsis for years, followed by Ryan Clady in 2008.

“What a get,” Shanahan said of Clady, whom he drafted at No. 12 overall in 2008. “You don’t get much better than Clady. That was like getting the top pick in the draft.”

That line returned in tact for 2009 under new coach Josh McDaniels, but because of injuries and demotions, was reshuffled at times last season. In 2010, Wiegmann and Hamilton are no longer Broncos as McDaniels tries to transform the unit from a zone scheme (which uses smaller linemen) to a more power blocking scheme (which favors larger players).

By all accounts, McDaniels very much likes Clady, Harris (who is recovering from a season-ending toe injury) and Kuper (who on Tuesday signed his one-year tender, ending his restricted free agency). Shanahan is now hoping to find similar players to rebuild the line in Washington, in part through the draft. Shanahan drafted Kuper (who Shanahan said would have been in high demand had he been an unrestricted free agent) in the fifth round in 2006 and Harris (who Shahanan called a future Pro Bowl player) in the third round in 2007.

“You’ve got to find those guys in the draft,” Shanahan said. “Those guys are out there, you’ve just got to make sure you find the right ones.”


http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/03/24/does-mike-shanahan-have-o-line-envy/

turftoad
03-27-2010, 12:01 AM
He should have, he built it for his own scheme.

Ravage!!!
03-27-2010, 11:17 AM
Does Mike Shanahan have O-line envy?
By LINDSAY JONES


ORLANDO — Former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan made his return to the NFL’s annual meetings this year, now as the head coach of the Washington Redskins.

He met with reporters for about an hour this morning, talking about various players on his new team, of course. But he also couldn’t help discussing guys from his old team, including a number of current Broncos.

It was clear from that discussion — started by a question about zone blocking — that Shanahan felt very strongly about the group of offensive linemen he left behind in Denver when he was fired after the 2008 season. The starters that year were tackles Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris, guards Chris Kuper and Ben Hamilton and center Casey Wiegmann.

Shanahan said that the best proof he has that zone blocking works is that the Broncos averaged 4.8 rushing yards per carry in 2008, despite an unheard of spate of injuries to the team’s running backs (six ended up on injured reserve).

Among the biggest questions Shanahan faces as he starts his first year in Washington is who will play left tackle, an unfamiliar issue for Shanahan after having the solid Matt Lepsis for years, followed by Ryan Clady in 2008.

“What a get,” Shanahan said of Clady, whom he drafted at No. 12 overall in 2008. “You don’t get much better than Clady. That was like getting the top pick in the draft.”

That line returned in tact for 2009 under new coach Josh McDaniels, but because of injuries and demotions, was reshuffled at times last season. In 2010, Wiegmann and Hamilton are no longer Broncos as McDaniels tries to transform the unit from a zone scheme (which uses smaller linemen) to a more power blocking scheme (which favors larger players).

By all accounts, McDaniels very much likes Clady, Harris (who is recovering from a season-ending toe injury) and Kuper (who on Tuesday signed his one-year tender, ending his restricted free agency). Shanahan is now hoping to find similar players to rebuild the line in Washington, in part through the draft. Shanahan drafted Kuper (who Shanahan said would have been in high demand had he been an unrestricted free agent) in the fifth round in 2006 and Harris (who Shahanan called a future Pro Bowl player) in the third round in 2007.

“You’ve got to find those guys in the draft,” Shanahan said. “Those guys are out there, you’ve just got to make sure you find the right ones.”


http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/03/24/does-mike-shanahan-have-o-line-envy/

Lonestar
03-27-2010, 11:43 AM
Thanks for reposting the oringal post with those highlights.

I'm sure everyone missed them without the colors. :D

That whoopong 4.8 yards. Were indeed impressive considering almost none of them were scoring yards.

Remember he set a record on scoring V yardage disparity in 2008.

Figures never lie but liars always figure.


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silkamilkamonico
03-27-2010, 12:15 PM
I really hope Shanahan isn't leaning on that 4.8 ypc example to go ahead and neglect the RB position personel-wise like he did in Denver since 2001 or whatever.

With that being said the system it is a great system that he runs.

Lonestar
03-27-2010, 12:37 PM
Hey a light bulb just went off.

Since mike so loves the ZBS and Josh loves power blocking. Let's do a OLINE swap save Clady. Then all mike needs to do is daft a OLT with his top choice and he is set and we do not have to rebuild ours either.


Hahahahahahahahaha


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Tned
03-27-2010, 12:45 PM
Hey a light bulb just went off.

Since mike so loves the ZBS and Josh loves power blocking. Let's do a OLINE swap save Clady. Then all mike needs to do is daft a OLT with his top choice and he is set and we do not have to rebuild ours either.


Hahahahahahahahaha


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I'm sure Shanahan would want Clady, too, in your proposed swap, as in the ZBS Clady led the league in runs behind the left tackle in '08.

dogfish
03-27-2010, 02:21 PM
Hey a light bulb just went off.

Since mike so loves the ZBS and Josh loves power blocking. Let's do a OLINE swap save Clady. Then all mike needs to do is daft a OLT with his top choice and he is set and we do not have to rebuild ours either.


Hahahahahahahahaha


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that's one of the worst ideas ever posted on this board!

:rofl:


do you KNOW how terrible washington's line is?

last year we rushed for 300 more yards and one more TD, and averaged 4.2 YPC to their 3.9-- we gave up 34 sacks, they gave up 46. . . and their only decent player is probably going to retire because of a neck injury. . . chris kuper and ryan harris may not be prototypical fits in a power scheme (i think kupes will adjust fine), but they are head and shoulders better in ANY system than any lineman washington has on their roster. . . hell, they don't have anyone i'd even sign as a free agent, let alone trade for. . . .

Lonestar
03-27-2010, 02:26 PM
that's one of the worst ideas ever posted on this board!

:rofl:


do you KNOW how terrible washington's line is?

last year we rushed for 300 more yards and one more TD, and averaged 4.2 YPC to their 3.9-- we gave up 34 sacks, they gave up 46. . . and their only decent player is probably going to retire because of a neck injury. . . chris kuper and ryan harris may not be prototypical fits in a power scheme (i think kupes will adjust fine), but they are head and shoulders better in ANY system than any lineman washington has on their roster. . . hell, they don't have anyone i'd even sign as a free agent, let alone trade for. . . .


Hey is was a BROWNCO joke.. note the HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ravage!!!
03-27-2010, 03:19 PM
Thanks for reposting the oringal post with those highlights.

I'm sure everyone missed them without the colors. :D

Remember this the next time you post an article and wish to highlight

That whoopong 4.8 yards. Were indeed impressive considering almost none of them were scoring yards.


Remember he set a record on scoring V yardage disparity in 2008.

Want me to point out the record our team set in '09, after he left?

Lonestar
03-27-2010, 03:40 PM
Remember this the next time you post an article and wish to highlight

That whoopong 4.8 yards. Were indeed impressive considering almost none of them were scoring yards.



Want me to point out the record our team set in '09, after he left?

Jeez I guess I missed the part in this thread that has anything to do with this year. mike was defending his OLINE last year. how great it was.


But since you brought it up both the Chefs and Panthers had 4.8 also and the NYG had 5.0.

But DEN was ranked tied for 14th spot in rushing TD's

and even only 7th in passing scoring.

yep something to be proud of.

HEll we had 4.2 this past year in a new scheme and only 60% of the starters after week 5 or 6 last year.

not sure what that means but 4.8 (T-2nd) with supposedly the best online in the league and only 14th in scoring. Sounds pretty weak to me.

Shazam!
03-29-2010, 10:25 PM
Maybe Shanny should get Foster in...