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lex
09-09-2007, 08:04 PM
After watching us get gashed repeatedly in the preseason, I went to today thinking we'd have to score a lot of points to win. In recent days Bates had said that the defense isnt as bad as some us think...but I was still a little worried. Gotta say though, wow. They really stepped up today. They really buckled down. Originally, Buffalo was getting chunks running then we tightened up on 1st downs. This resulted in 2nd and longs and we'd put in our pass rushing DLine and for a while Buffalo tried to pass with this line in. Then eventually Buffalo tried running more on 2nd and longs and even third and longs presumably to take advantage of our pass rushers being in. This worked ok but I think we started putting our 1st down Dline in on more 2nd downs. But all in all, the defense far exceded my expectations. Granted, its week 1 and its Buffalo but its not like Buffalo has a bunch of scrubs on offense. They may not be the best but theyre not disgustingly bad. Also, I was please with the play Dre Bly made right before the half when Buffalo took a shot at the endzone. Anyway, how did you feel about the defense? Has your faith been restored...somewhat at least?


PS, someone familiar with the Dolphins or Packers said Bates was great at freeing up the guy you want in the backfield when blitzing. I now see what he was talking about. Lynch and Williams broke through big time.

SmithOverTO
09-09-2007, 08:10 PM
One word: yes. Seeing John Lynch play the way he was meant to play was a huge bonus and DJ Williams was an absolute beast in the middle.

I'm very confindent that this defense can walk the walk during Week 4 at the RCA Dome.

Rick
09-09-2007, 08:27 PM
I didn't have a lack of faith in bates as he has proven in the NFL he is one of the best.

I did have a lack of faith in the personal that were taking the field though. The system was fine they just were not executing it good.

They made me feel much better today with their play, still this was against an average offense. If we have situations like Gold getting just a single tackle against teams like SD we are possibly going to see a much different story.

Watchthemiddle
09-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Never lost the faith. How can anyone say that they did after only watching the preseason where everything is just Vanilla and its the guys first year here as a coach?

Good defensive game today. Game ball goes to them

lex
09-09-2007, 08:34 PM
Never lost the faith. How can anyone say that they did after only watching the preseason where everything is just Vanilla and its the guys first year here as a coach?

Good defensive game today. Game ball goes to them

Because some of their problems were in areas that leave you very vulnerable and are easy to exploit even with scheming. But they did a good job today bolstering those areas.

SeeingRed
09-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Personally, I never lost faith in Bates. Our d-line is suspect at best, but our LBs and secondary looked impressive.

broncosinindy
09-09-2007, 11:05 PM
I wont shy away. this is exactly how i feelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eim5jLlEPYI

But i definetly feel better now

omac
09-10-2007, 02:27 AM
I wasn't really concerned if Bates could make our team have a good defense; I know it will happen eventually, but I'd hope we get by until it does. The only thing that I was worried about was if and when DJ would adapt to his new, critical role on defense, as he looked a bit lost in the preseason. I'm glad he's playing much better ... still not great, but improving in leaps and bounds compared to the preseason. It was great to see him make plays.

Bly played incredible, and Champ was, well, Champ. :cheers:

sneakers
09-10-2007, 04:40 AM
I hadn't lost faith at all in him. We have too good of players on defense that we could run my any ole defense and be in the top 50% in defense.

sneakers
09-10-2007, 04:43 AM
I hadn't lost faith at all in him. We have too good of players on defense that we could run my any ole defense and be in the top 50% in defense.

(Oh yeah, except for ray rhodes' defense...I can still see rich gannon completing pass after pass against us in my nightmares)

arapaho2
09-10-2007, 12:38 PM
my only concern was gold believeing he is this unbelievable hard hitter and doesnt need to wrapp up...his lack of sure tackles allowed many of those drives to continue...correct that and we will be fine

SM19
09-10-2007, 01:00 PM
I hadn't lost faith at all in him. We have too good of players on defense that we could run my any ole defense and be in the top 50% in defense.

This is the truth. Our players made Coyer's scheme look decent, I'm confident they could do the same with Bates'.

topscribe
09-10-2007, 01:15 PM
The defense improved as the game went on. Another 4 - 5 games to jell, and
they may become a force.

I do hope, however, they get better at rushing defense. I think they will.

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SBboundBRONCOS
09-10-2007, 01:25 PM
The defense improved as the game went on. Another 4 - 5 games to jell, and
they may become a force.

I do hope, however, they get better at rushing defense. I think they will.

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i think we were tremendous on Defense for the first game with all the pieces comming together

the pressure was there all day . . . Bates blitzed in the right situations and didnt over do it, thank god

2 big sacks, and DJ is gonna be a stud anchoring that defense

vs the run though, i say we did well in the conditions other than that 23 yard bounce by lynch we held them under 4 yards a carry i believe which in my book is pretty darn good

gold needs to wrap up, he was in the right spot but just couldnt do it
we will have better games, and we will have worse games, although i would like to see a fumble every now and then this season . . . .havent seen many of those with this defense wonder why:confused:

topscribe
09-10-2007, 01:39 PM
i think we were tremendous on Defense for the first game with all the pieces comming together

the pressure was there all day . . . Bates blitzed in the right situations and didnt over do it, thank god

2 big sacks, and DJ is gonna be a stud anchoring that defense

vs the run though, i say we did well in the conditions other than that 23 yard bounce by lynch we held them under 4 yards a carry i believe which in my book is pretty darn good

gold needs to wrap up, he was in the right spot but just couldnt do it
we will have better games, and we will have worse games, although i would like to see a fumble every now and then this season . . . .havent seen many of those with this defense wonder why:confused:
I don't remember Lynch ever fumbling at Cal. I'm sure he did, but it was so
seldom that I don't remember any time. That is probably why this week,
anyway.

Few, if any, have been bashed worse on Denver's message boards than D.J.
as a MLB. I tried to caution them to wait and see what happens, that D.J.
is a phenomenal athlete who could so much as become a Pro Bowl caliber
MLB. Some then started bashing ME over such a stupid remark.

Well, D.J. is beginning to make his presence felt. And you ain't seen nothing
yet, IMO. But then, I held up for Gold for a long time, too. And Gold is
showing me little, except that he needs to be replaced.

But, yes, the defense seems to be showing glimpses of becoming a stone wall.

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NameUsedBefore
09-10-2007, 01:42 PM
Gold has been disappointing me for awhile. He's one of the best when he's pursuing a defender, but when it comes to actually squaring up and tackling one so he doesn't gain yards Gold just... disappoints :/

SBboundBRONCOS
09-10-2007, 01:43 PM
I don't remember Lynch ever fumbling at Cal. I'm sure he did, but it was so
seldom that I don't remember any time. That is probably why this week,
anyway.

Few, if any, have been bashed worse on Denver's message boards than D.J.
as a MLB. I tried to caution them to wait and see what happens, that D.J.
is a phenomenal athlete who could so much as become a Pro Bowl caliber
MLB. Some then started bashing ME over such a stupid remark.

Well, D.J. is beginning to make his presence felt. And you ain't seen nothing
yet, IMO. But then, I held up for Gold for a long time, too. And Gold is
showing me little, except that he needs to be replaced.

But, yes, the defense seems to be showing glimpses of becoming a stone wall.

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yeah i know lynch hardly ever fumbles but in all honesty i cant even remembe rthe last time we forced a fumble and recovered it:confused:

and for that matter when was the last TD on special team

but this thread is in the defense and they were great this weekend:D

Lonestar
09-10-2007, 01:47 PM
My biggest concerns were they one of two things happened.

Bates came along at the right time in MIA and GB and his players made him look good.

Or he made the existing players look good with his scheme and then added more of his guys to make them very formidable.

During preseason I was having second thought about if these clowns on the field could not handle vanilla. How could they possibly handle some thing complex.

All pre-season long DJ was out of position and the RB's were for lack a of a better term being escorted up the gut for major gains.

Now I will not pretend that from what I saw yesterday that BUF is any where season ending from they were last year, nor that marshawn lynch is a great RB. I suspect they will be much better than they showed against Bates defense.

Doom and gloom rant coming up:

They will have to improve dramatically next week to o contain LJ and then by weak four to pressure manning if not these are for sure loses.

gold was in the right spots but better learn how to tackle or he is gonzo.
The blitzes were timed well and caught JP flatfooted.

omac
09-10-2007, 03:21 PM
(erased message) Sorry, I thought you mean LJ of KC, forgot about the LJ of Oakland.

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