The Official Colorado Rockies thread--Now with extra awesome!!

[chazoe60]

I think Schmidt might be the closest to him, but no...even with bias aside...I dont think anyone comes close to Brooks. Most players dont even play 16 years and Brooks won 16 gold gloves. Most eer for any position player

Coach, what do you think of Todd Helton as a defensive 1B from a career standpoint?

[CoachChaz]

Coach, what do you think of Todd Helton as a defensive 1B from a career standpoint?

I think he was very good. If not for the likes of JT Snow, Pujols, Lee, AGon etc...who were all amazing defensive players, I think he would have won more GG's. SOmetimes players get stuck in a position full of talent and it's tough to get recognized. He's an example

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Colorado Rockies placed hard-throwing right-handed reliever Edgmer Escalona on the 15-day disabled list Tuesday because of inflammation in his right elbow.

Taking Escalona's place in the bullpen will be left-handed reliever Josh Outman, 28. He will be available for Tuesday night's game against the Washington Nationals at Coors Field.

Escalona, 26, injured his right elbow pitching Sunday afternoon against the San Diego Padres. He underwent an MRI on Monday. The test revealed no significant structural damage, but the injury was severe enough to land him on the DL.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_23437113/rockies-move-reliever-edgmer-escalona-dl-call-up

[Thnikkaman]

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_23437113/rockies-move-reliever-edgmer-escalona-dl-call-up

This was expected.

[MOtorboat]

Is Brooks Robinson the concensus best defensive 3B of all time? Is it even debatable?

Chaz was trying not to be bias. I won't.

It's not even ******* close.

Re: Arenado's defense...Mike Moustakas made a huge jump in his defense between his stint in Double A and the Majors, so much so that his best asset to the team is in the field right now (which isn't saying much because his offense is pretty lousy right now), but that I think is a decent comp, defensively, to Arenado's improvement. He was slated early on for corner outfield, then flashed glove when he got up, and he's probably not going anywhere now.

[CoachChaz]

Chaz was trying not to be bias. I won't.

It's not even ******* close.

Re: Arenado's defense...Mike Moustakas made a huge jump in his defense between his stint in Double A and the Majors, so much so that his best asset to the team is in the field right now (which isn't saying much because his offense is pretty lousy right now), but that I think is a decent comp, defensively, to Arenado's improvement. He was slated early on for corner outfield, then flashed glove when he got up, and he's probably not going anywhere now.

I think if he slips a bit, the move to first is still a possibility. I could see Trevor Story being ready to come up by 2015. He is a natural SS. So, you move Tulo to 3rd, Arenado to first and have Rutledge at 2nd. That's a pretty solid infield that can hit. Add Rosario and an outfield of CarGo, Fowler and Dahl...and it's pretty formidable.

The difference is if the pitching comes around. How fast does Gray develop and become ready for the ML, and can he lay of the pot?

[Thnikkaman]

I think if he slips a bit, the move to first is still a possibility. I could see Trevor Story being ready to come up by 2015. He is a natural SS. So, you move Tulo to 3rd, Arenado to first and have Rutledge at 2nd. That's a pretty solid infield that can hit. Add Rosario and an outfield of CarGo, Fowler and Dahl...and it's pretty formidable.

The difference is if the pitching comes around. How fast does Gray develop and become ready for the ML, and can he lay of the pot?

It was adderall, not pot.

[Chef Zambini]

Is Brooks Robinson the concensus best defensive 3B of all time? Is it even debatable?brooks is the michael jordon of third basemen

[CoachChaz]

It was adderall, not pot.

That's right. Well...if he seems amped up...you'll know why

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Colorado Rockies top draft pick Jonathan Gray is in Denver on Wednesday, the team said — increasing the likelihood the No. 3 overall selection in last week's MLB draft will sign soon.

The deal could be done as soon as today.

Gray, a junior from the University of Oklahoma, would likely take in the team's 6:40 p.m. game against the Nationals.

The slot value of the third overall pick is $5.6 million this season. There was never really any concern he wouldn't sign.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23444820/jonathan-gray-denver-likely-sign-colorado-rockies-soon

[Thnikkaman]

Gray has been signed.

I need to make plans to go to whichever level in the organization he gets assigned to.

https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/344961992819351552/photo/1

[Buff]

Gray has been signed.

I need to make plans to go to whichever level in the organization he gets assigned to.

https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/344961992819351552/photo/1

He is headed to Grand Junction to start - birthplace of Buff - according to Renck.

[chazoe60]

He is headed to Grand Junction to start - birthplace of Buff - according to Renck.

I can get tix to GJ games. Cool.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Eric Young Jr ‏@EYJr

support. Love you all. Always have faith in the man upstairs and in yourselves. #blessings Phil 4:13

Best wishes to the Rockies organization. Thankyou for my time with you. Truly a blessing to be with the city of Denver. Thankyou all for the

[Denver Native (Carol)]

He is headed to Grand Junction to start - birthplace of Buff - according to Renck.

Drew and George had him on earlier tonight during the game, and he said he was going to GJ

[Thnikkaman]

I expect that after gj, he'll go to Tulsa, and either skip the springs, or limited time there.

if he'll pay in the fall league.

[CoachChaz]

I expect that after gj, he'll go to Tulsa, and either skip the springs, or limited time there.

if he'll pay in the fall league.

If the Rockies are smart, he'll be on limited innings. He's already pitched over 125 innings for OU this year, so I dont imagine you'll see more than 4-5 inning outings for him this summer in a very limited role. Next year, he'll likely be limited to 150 total innings.

Again...that's if they are smart

[Thnikkaman]

If the Rockies are smart, he'll be on limited innings. He's already pitched over 125 innings for OU this year, so I dont imagine you'll see more than 4-5 inning outings for him this summer in a very limited role. Next year, he'll likely be limited to 150 total innings.

Again...that's if they are smart

I expect that they will show him off in GJ, and ensure that he trains properly to go straight to Tulsa next year. Reports are saying that he signed for under his slot ammount, that gives the Rockies a almost a mill of surplus to sign some of the other high profile picks from the first 10 rounds.

[CoachChaz]

I expect that they will show him off in GJ, and ensure that he trains properly to go straight to Tulsa next year. Reports are saying that he signed for under his slot ammount, that gives the Rockies a almost a mill of surplus to sign some of the other high profile picks from the first 10 rounds.

Depends. If he blows up rookie ball, then perhaps. But if he still has stuff to work on, then Modesto should be the next step until he settles in. Hopefully they learned their lesson with Bettis

[Thnikkaman]

Depends. If he blows up rookie ball, then perhaps. But if he still has stuff to work on, then Modesto should be the next step until he settles in. Hopefully they learned their lesson with Bettis

The projection that he will start in Tulsa is based on his heat alone, but I agree that he will likely never play in Asheville.

[CoachChaz]

The projection that he will start in Tulsa is based on his heat alone, but I agree that he will likely never play in Asheville.

Compare him to Oriole rookie Kevin Gausman. KG was drafted high last year out of college. Went to rookie ball, then advanced A ball. Pitched about 15 total innings due to the fact he pitched a ton last year in college. he looked decent in spring training, so they moved him up to AA to start this year. Kid has a hard fastball, slider and change up. he threw 46 innings in AA with a 2-4 record until Baltimore called him up due to rotation injuries. In 4 games in the bigs, he's 0-3 with an 8.84 ERA.

If I were Colorado, I'd give Gray 15-20 innings in A- and A+ ball this summer, then see what he looks like in ST. From there, give him a full season at AA and limit him to about 150 innings. He's a big kid, but I'd still take my time with him for a year or two before subjecting him to ML batters

[Thnikkaman]

Right now, he's projected for a possible '15 call-up if he's ready. I think the Rockies FO has learned the lesson of pushing pitchers to fast with Pomerantz.

[CoachChaz]

Right now, he's projected for a possible '15 call-up if he's ready. I think the Rockies FO has learned the lesson of pushing pitchers to fast with Pomerantz.

I dont know. They did silly stuff with Bettis by trying to make him a starter. As a result, he missed all of 2012 and is injured this year.

Desperate times call for desperate measures and if the Rox staff gets an injury bug or is ineffective...and Gray is looking decent in the minors, I could see them calling him up next year. That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes it works out, especially with college pitchers.

[slim]

Right now, he's projected for a possible '15 call-up if he's ready. I think the Rockies FO has learned the lesson of pushing pitchers to fast with Pomerantz.

The Rockies FO can't find their ass with both hands.

They haven't learned shit.

[MOtorboat]

Does anyone else get the feeling that Gray might end up being a closer, with a plus-plus fastball and plus slider...

Does he have anything else. I thought I read he works in a changeup.

[slim]

Based on what I have read, his changeup is still a work in progress.

I don't think they see him as a closer, though. Guy is a hoss (built for eating innings).

[CoachChaz]

Does anyone else get the feeling that Gray might end up being a closer, with a plus-plus fastball and plus slider...

Does he have anything else. I thought I read he works in a changeup.

Excellent question. He has a big frame to be durable, but I have concerns about his athleticism. After that, I think the biggest thing to work on is a third pitch and his command. He has a change-up, but it's way behind the fastball and slider in terms of effectiveness. His slider needs some work too. When it's on, it's nasty...but when it's not...he's lost. Also needs to learn how to throw it out of the strike zone.

At the end of the day, he's very raw. So, it all comes down to what the minor league staff can do to develop him. If he can work on his command a little bit, a reliever role might be in his future.

[CoachChaz]

Based on what I have read, his changeup is still a work in progress.

I don't think they see him as a closer, though. Guy is a hoss (built for eating innings).

He goes 240...but it's really not a "good" 240.

[slim]

He goes 240...but it's really not a "good" 240.

So he's a fatass?

I like him already.

[CoachChaz]

So he's a fatass?

I like him already.

I guess "husky" would be the PC term. Not fat...but not chisled

[MOtorboat]

He's big boned.

[Thnikkaman]

He's 6'6" or something like that.

[MOtorboat]

He definitely has the build to be an innings eater, provided the mechanics are consistent. I was just kind of thinking about his stuff, hard fastball-slider, occasional change. It just sounds like closer stuff. Think Johnathan Broxton.

[CoachChaz]

He's 6'6" or something like that.

6'4", 240. Big kid...but I'm with MO. If he doesnt develop the chang-up or work out the mechanics...definitely a BP arm

[Buff]

He definitely has the build to be an innings eater, provided the mechanics are consistent. I was just kind of thinking about his stuff, hard fastball-slider, occasional change. It just sounds like closer stuff. Think Johnathan Broxton.

He will be given every opportunity to succeed as a starter. They wouldn't have used the #3 pick on a projected closer.

[slim]

He will be given every opportunity to succeed as a starter. They wouldn't have used the #3 pick on a projected closer.

Unless he fails as a starter. Then they will claim that was the plan all along.

[MOtorboat]

He will be given every opportunity to succeed as a starter. They wouldn't have used the #3 pick on a projected closer.

Right, I'm very aware of that process. Just my observations about his "stuff" at this point.

I'm hopeful he's a top of the line starter, and might not be too far away from the bigs, say two years, but we'll see. And baseball's draft isn't as cut and dry as the NBA or NFL. While not ideal, it's not a bust of a pick if he's your closer for seven or eight seasons.

[Buff]

Right, I'm very aware of that process. Just my observations about his "stuff" at this point.

I'm hopeful he's a top of the line starter, and might not be too far away from the bigs, say two years, but we'll see. And baseball's draft isn't as cut and dry as the NBA or NFL. While not ideal, it's not a bust of a pick if he's your closer for seven or eight seasons.

Yeah, sort of like taking a OT in football, you can always kick them in to guard if they are a bust at tackle. But I think this team has such a desperate need for quality starting pitching that they will exhaust all efforts to turn him into one.

[CoachChaz]

He will be given every opportunity to succeed as a starter. They wouldn't have used the #3 pick on a projected closer.

No. But shit changes fast in baseball. Go back over the last 10 years of the draft and tell me how many pitchers were drafted and how many are quality starters and how many are relievers.

MO can correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think KC used a #1 pick on Hochevar with the hopes he'd be a reliever. I know the Orioles had higher expectations drafting Matusz #4, Moskos in Pittsburgh, etc. etc.

Sometimes you can see the path that a player appears destined for and sometimes life throws a curveball (pun intended)

[Buff]

No. But shit changes fast in baseball. Go back over the last 10 years of the draft and tell me how many pitchers were drafted and how many are quality starters and how many are relievers.

MO can correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think KC used a #1 pick on Hochevar with the hopes he'd be a reliever. I know the Orioles had higher expectations drafting Matusz #4, Moskos in Pittsburgh, etc. etc.

Sometimes you can see the path that a player appears destined for and sometimes life throws a curveball (pun intended)

I feel you - but if ever there was a team who would just jam a square peg into a round hole based on sheer need, it would be the Colorado Rockies, where pitchers go to die.

[GEM]

Downtown is packed for the day game. Leaving work early to avoid traffic. :rockon:

[underrated29]

m streak ended last night. The rocks hadnt lost when I had been at a game in so very very long. However, I was there last night and we lost. I blame the fires.

[CoachChaz]

I feel you - but if ever there was a team who would just jam a square peg into a round hole based on sheer need, it would be the Colorado Rockies, where pitchers go to die.

That's why I mentioned Bettis earlier. He was developing into a solid reliever/closer. Then they made him a starter and bam...arm issues

[MOtorboat]

No. But shit changes fast in baseball. Go back over the last 10 years of the draft and tell me how many pitchers were drafted and how many are quality starters and how many are relievers.

MO can correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think KC used a #1 pick on Hochevar with the hopes he'd be a reliever. I know the Orioles had higher expectations drafting Matusz #4, Moskos in Pittsburgh, etc. etc.

Sometimes you can see the path that a player appears destined for and sometimes life throws a curveball (pun intended)

Don't get me started about that pick. The funniest part about it is no one claims it. Technically, the Royals didn't have a general manager when the selection was made. The scouting staff was still Baird's, but, by name, Moore had taken over like the day before as GM, and basically said he'd leave the draft up to the scouting department that year. What a cluster.

But point taken, Hoch was not drafted to be a long reliever, one of the more useless types of relievers you can have.

[CoachChaz]

Don't get me started about that pick. The funniest part about it is no one claims it. Technically, the Royals didn't have a general manager when the selection was made. The scouting staff was still Baird's, but, by name, Moore had taken over like the day before as GM, and basically said he'd leave the draft up to the scouting department that year. What a cluster.

But point taken, Hoch was not drafted to be a long reliever, one of the more useless types of relievers you can have.

Brian Matusz falls into that category as well. Although he's been successful as a reliever and I'd like to see them try him back in the rotation again rather than forcing rookies and ancient journeymen. Then again, that would leave us with only one lefty in the pen. God our pitching sucks.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Bad news buried the Colorado Rockies like a landslide Thursday afternoon at Coors Field.

Injuries to Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez and Dexter Fowler, two mysterious balks, two ejections and two runs allowed by usually reliable reliever Matt Belisle added up to a 5-4 loss to Washington. With the game knotted 3-3 in the eighth, the Nationals tagged Belisle for two runs. The big blows were back-to-back doubles by pinch hitter Roger Bernadina and Ryan Zimmerman and an infield RBI-single by Ian Desmond.

The Rockies rallied for one run in the ninth on Todd Helton's pinch-hit single scoring Nolan Arenado.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23454740/rockies-fall-nationals-wild-one-full-injuries-ejections?_requestid=3626924

[Thnikkaman]

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23454740/rockies-fall-nationals-wild-one-full-injuries-ejections?_requestid=3626924

Such bullshit that game was.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

An MRI Thursday night of Troy Tulowitzki's right side revealed a broken rib, according to two major league sources. Tulowitzki is likely facing a lengthy absence.

The shortstop exited in the eighth inning of Thursday's 5-4 loss to Washington following a diving stop of a groundball, completing a dizzying parade of injuries to Carlos Gonzalez (bruised left foot) and Dexter Fowler (swollen knuckle on right ring finger). Gonzalez confirmed to The Post that "he was fine, just sore," and Fowler doesn't believe he will miss much time.

The concern and uncertainty after the game centered on Tulowitzki, who ranks in the top five in the National League in hitting (.347 average), on-base percentage (.413), home runs (16) and RBIs (51).

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23456106/troy-tulowitzki-facing-disabled-list-stint-broken-rib

[Buff]

I assume Rutledge will get called back up. Of all the players we could least afford to lose for an extended period...

This next month is going to define the season. The starting pitching has regressed to what we expected preseason, our best hitter is gonna be on the shelf for a while, injuries are popping up everywhere... We need some of the younger guys to step up to keep the wheels on the bus.

[Thnikkaman]

I'm looking to Arenado to step it up a little, and for Rutledge to become the "rut legend" that he was playing like last year. I think Colvin is going to get regular playing time in the Outfield and Cuddy is going to see more time at 1B.

I really want to see Nicasio deal today, and getting Chatwood back tomorrow is going to be a really big help. If we can stay within a few games of first, I think we make a move for some pitching before the deadline.

Finally, I swear to the Baseball Gods that if I ever meet one of those Umps from yesterday, I'm clocking them.

[slim]

They have been barely treading water for more than a month and they just had one of their arms cut off.

[CoachChaz]

I think the shocking thing to me is why people seem shocked that Tulo is heading to the DL. It's not like this doesnt happen EVERY year

[slim]

I think the shocking thing to me is why people seem shocked that Tulo is heading to the DL. It's not like this doesnt happen EVERY year

I agree. It was only a matter of time.

[Thnikkaman]

I think the shocking thing to me is why people seem shocked that Tulo is heading to the DL. It's not like this doesnt happen EVERY year

Its not like it's a reoccurring injury. Yes it's so frustrating, especially when we as fans of this team have to deal with it. We are getting Chatwood back and then this happens.

I still stand by my prediction that this team will finish above 500 this year, and that is still a win after last year.

I'm done rooting for the Os in the American league. Can't root for your team anymore.

[Buff]

I think the shocking thing to me is why people seem shocked that Tulo is heading to the DL. It's not like this doesnt happen EVERY year

No, the shocking thing is how everyone nationally wants to write him off because of his injuries. Guy was having an MVP season. Shit happens. The injuries suck, but that doesn't detract from him being the best all around SS in baseball.

[Thnikkaman]

No, the shocking thing is how everyone nationally wants to write him off because of his injuries. Guy was having an MVP season. Shit happens. The injuries suck, but that doesn't detract from him being the best all around SS in baseball.

Am I the only one that feels like Coach is acting very OR like when it comes to the Rockies, or is he just being a "Realist"?

[CoachChaz]

Its not like it's a reoccurring injury. Yes it's so frustrating, especially when we as fans of this team have to deal with it. We are getting Chatwood back and then this happens.

I still stand by my prediction that this team will finish above 500 this year, and that is still a win after last year.

I'm done rooting for the Os in the American league. Can't root for your team anymore.

I am no more critical of your team than I am of my own. Other than discussing Machado the other day, how often do you EVER hear me being an extreme optimist about the Orioles?

I thought this was a thread to discuss the Rockies. Good or bad. I guess you changed that up on us.

[CoachChaz]

Am I the only one that feels like Coach is acting very OR like when it comes to the Rockies, or is he just being a "Realist"?

I am the fan of a team that didnt have a winning season for 15 straight years. I know all about REALITY. Just trying to bring a dose of it here

[CoachChaz]

No, the shocking thing is how everyone nationally wants to write him off because of his injuries. Guy was having an MVP season. Shit happens. The injuries suck, but that doesn't detract from him being the best all around SS in baseball.

Not too many people argue him being the best SS in baseball. Even with the injuries, everyone with a baseball acumen knows that. But we also know that he's made of glass he'll never play a full season and the Rockies will suffer as a result. it's just one of those easy modern baseball assumptions.

The Yankees will pay too much for a free agent...someone will get suspended for PED use...Tulo will get injured.

[Thnikkaman]

I am the fan of a team that didnt have a winning season for 15 straight years. I know all about REALITY. Just trying to bring a dose of it here

Sure, we have no clue what that feels like. In 20 years, been to the playoffs 3 times. 7 winning seasons out of 20. It seems like every time we get going well, something like this happens. So forgive me for getting pissed at you when I'm trying to remain optomistic about my teams chances to stay above 500 by the end of the year when someone else comes in and says "Told you so", offering doses of "reality".

I'm still pissed about the Balks and how yesterday's game unfolded, so don't take it personal when I say E.A.D. Coach.

[Buff]

Not too many people argue him being the best SS in baseball. Even with the injuries, everyone with a baseball acumen knows that. But we also know that he's made of glass he'll never play a full season and the Rockies will suffer as a result. it's just one of those easy modern baseball assumptions.

The Yankees will pay too much for a free agent...someone will get suspended for PED use...Tulo will get injured.

Yeah, unfortunately that seems to be the reality... It's almost a curse that he's such a good defensive SS, because I think he'd be better off and take less of a beating at 3B.

[MOtorboat]

Yes, let's talk about lack of playoff appearances...

[Denver Native (Carol)]

DENVER -- An MRI on Thursday night revealed that Colorado Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki has a broken rib, the Denver Post reported.

Tulowitzki, hitting .347 with 16 home runs this season, is headed to the disabled list and is expected to miss four to six weeks, according to MLB.com.

Tulowitzki hurt his ribs trying to make a play in the eighth inning of Thursday's 5-4 loss to Washington. Manager Walt Weiss said Tulowitzki's ribs have been hurting for about a week.

rest - http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9383978/troy-tulowitzki-colorado-rockies-broken-rib-reports-say

Tulo gets injured because he plays hard - he puts it on the line every game. If a player does that, they will suffer injuries.

[Thnikkaman]

Yes, let's talk about lack of playoff appearances...

If anyone should gripe about their team sucking over a long period of time, it's you MO. At least you guys have a WS under your belt.

[CoachChaz]

If anyone should gripe about their team sucking over a long period of time, it's you MO. At least you guys have a WS under your belt.

Hell, I have a few of them, but the last one was 30 years ago. The Rox havent even existed that long.

Perhaps the point you should take from me and MO is that things could always be worse. 7 winning seasons and a WS appearance in 20 years is more than we can say about our teams, so relish it and understand my goal is not to bash the Rockies. I could personally care less if they succeed or fail. All I bring to this thread is an intelligent dose of what baseball fans that dont wear purple tinted glasses can see. If anyone wants to ignore that, it's up to them.

But I'd be willing to bet I know more about the organization than most die-hard fans do.

[CoachChaz]

Yeah, unfortunately that seems to be the reality... It's almost a curse that he's such a good defensive SS, because I think he'd be better off and take less of a beating at 3B.

Once Trevor Story is ready, that's where Tulo is heading.

[CoachChaz]

rest - http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9383978/troy-tulowitzki-colorado-rockies-broken-rib-reports-say

Tulo gets injured because he plays hard - he puts it on the line every game. If a player does that, they will suffer injuries.

Which is why organizations typically make position changes for players. To keep them healthy. Rangers did it with Hamilton...Angels did it with Trout...Nationals will eventually do it with Harper...etc., etc.

[MOtorboat]

Where are they going to put Harper? First?

[chazoe60]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[MOtorboat]

What's the word on Gonzalez? That injury was just stupid dumb luck.

[chazoe60]

What's the word on Gonzalez? That injury was just stupid dumb luck.

Who cares? He's an overrated defensive liability.

[slim]

Tulo gets injured because he plays hard - he puts it on the line every game. If a player does that, they will suffer injuries.

Yeah, not really.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tulo...but he's always hurt. I suppose I would rather have him for 120 games a year, than not at all. But it's pretty frustrating.

[CoachChaz]

Where are they going to put Harper? First?

That's a good question. I think with him, they're either going to have to sit him down or he's just going to have to learn it the hard way. Perhaps one of the negatives of being successful at a young age

[CoachChaz]

Who cares? He's an overrated defensive liability.

Exaggerate much?

[Thnikkaman]

What's the word on Gonzalez? That injury was just stupid dumb luck.

With both Gargo and Fowler, they are just contusions and they are day to day.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Heard on the fan that Cargo will play - Fowler will not

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Colorado Rockies have recalled infielder Josh Rutledge from Triple-A Colorado Springs and placed Troy Tulowitzki on the 15-day disabled list. Tulowitzki is out with a broken rib on his right side, an injury sustained Thursday.

Rutledge will be available for Friday's game against Philadelphia.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23462465/rockies-recall-josh-rutledge-place-tulowitzki-disabled-list

[Timmy!]

Our bullpen sucks balls.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Colorado Rockies continued to tinker with their bullpen Sunday, optioning left-handed reliever Chris Volstad to Triple-A Colorado Springs. The Rockies also called up right-hander Logan Kensing.

By purchasing Kensing's contract, the Rockies added him to their 40-man roster.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23472887/rockies-call-up-logan-kensing-drop-chris-volstad

As Kensing was with the Rockies' Triple-A team, why do they need to purchase his contract?

[MOtorboat]

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23472887/rockies-call-up-logan-kensing-drop-chris-volstad

As Kensing was with the Rockies' Triple-A team, why do they need to purchase his contract?

To add him to the 40-man.

Semantics and red tape.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

To add him to the 40-man.

Semantics and red tape.

Did they also have to do that with Colvin and Ruthledge, or did they not, because they had been on the 40 man roster before?

[MOtorboat]

Did they also have to do that with Colvin and Ruthledge, or did they not, because they had been on the 40 man roster before?

I think they were on the 40-man, but I'd have to go look. Since they've been up and down a couple of times, I'd assume that's the case.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I think they were on the 40-man, but I'd have to go look. Since they've been up and down a couple of times, I'd assume that's the case.

I would assume they had to that with Arenado, who was #1 on ESPN's top 10 plays last night.

[MOtorboat]

I would assume they had to that with Arenado, who was #1 on ESPN's top 10 plays last night.

That play was pretty sweet.

Edit: Arenado was not on the 40 man prior to call up.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

That play was pretty sweet.

Edit: Arenado was not on the 40 man prior to call up.

That's what I should have said - since he was not on the 40 man prior to call up, I am assuming they had to buy his contract also?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Jhoulys Chacin handed out a Father's Day gift to cherish at Coors Field on Sunday afternoon.

The Rockies' right-hander baffled Philadelphia Phillies batters with a mesmerizing combination of sinking fastballs, sliders and changeups in Colorado's 5-2 victory.

Those in the crowd of 45,186 can say that for 8 1/2 innings, they watched one of the greatest pitching performance in Rockies history.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23473337/jhoulys-chacin-throws-gem-rockies-pound-phillies

[Thnikkaman]

was an excellent game. I'm going to stay optimistic that this team will still be playing meaningful baseball when our star shortstop comes back off the DL. Especially if the Defense keeps making web gems every game.

[CoachChaz]

was an excellent game. I'm going to stay optimistic that this team will still be playing meaningful baseball when our star shortstop comes back off the DL. Especially if the Defense keeps making web gems every game.

If CarGo can stay hot and some others can heat up, they shouldnt miss a beat. But losing Tulo isnt something you just cover up. It'll be a big test for the team

[MOtorboat]

Oswalt will likely start Thursday, per Renck via Hardball Talk.

[Thnikkaman]

Oswalt will likely start Thursday, per Renck via Hardball Talk.

That came out of the Rockies Fan Forum from last Friday. Are you sure Thursday? Tuesday makes more sense since that's Francis' day, and I don't think they would be pulling Nicasio or Chatwood out of the rotation.

[MOtorboat]

That came out of the Rockies Fan Forum from last Friday. Are you sure Thursday? Tuesday makes more sense since that's Francis' day, and I don't think they would be pulling Nicasio or Chatwood out of the rotation.

It was posted exactly an hour ago on Hardball Talk. At the time I didn't click through to Renck's tweet, but here it is:

@TroyRenck I expect Oswalt to start this week. Likely Thursday in Washington...have to make decisions: Nicasio to the pen? Cut ties w Francis?

He indicates in a conversation with someone later that Chatwood's pitching day will be pushed back to Friday.

[Thnikkaman]

It was posted exactly an hour ago on Hardball Talk. At the time I didn't click through to Renck's tweet, but here it is:

@TroyRenck I expect Oswalt to start this week. Likely Thursday in Washington...have to make decisions: Nicasio to the pen? Cut ties w Francis?

He indicates in a conversation with someone later that Chatwood's pitching day will be pushed back to Friday.

In that case it sounds like Francis and Nicasio get one last start to prove their stuff.

[MOtorboat]

In that case it sounds like Francis and Nicasio get one last start to prove their stuff.

I think they are idiots if they give up on Nicasio.

Francis obviously has some sentimental value to the fans, but he is what he is. And it's not like Nicasio is THAT bad. He's got a decent K:BB, a good BAA. The ERA is a little high, but Francis has been worse, and there's no upside.

[Thnikkaman]

I think they are idiots if they give up on Nicasio.

Francis obviously has some sentimental value to the fans, but he is what he is. And it's not like Nicasio is THAT bad. He's got a decent K:BB, a good BAA. The ERA is a little high, but Francis has been worse, and there's no upside.

Nicasio has options. The idea would be to give Nicasio time to work on more off speed stuff in the minors. Nicasio is my favorite pitcher in our rotation truly due to the fact that he's come back from a broken neck to have a winning record this year. His will be the next player jersey I purchase.

[OrangeHoof]

Is there a betting pool every year for which day Tulo will go on the DL?

[Thnikkaman]

CarGo has received the NL Player of the Week award.

http://www.purplerow.com/2013/6/17/4438784/nl-player-of-the-week-carlos-gonzalez-rockies

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Is there a betting pool every year for which day Tulo will go on the DL?

George Frazier and Drew Goodman were talking about this a couple of nights ago. George said that Tulo gets hurt because he plays extremely hard, and anyone playing like that is subject to injuries. I totally agree with that. Tulo goes "all out" every game he plays.

[slim]

So any player that isn't constantly on the DL isn't really trying.

Good to know.

[MOtorboat]

Of course I sat de la Rosa tonight. Of course.

I have an 8-start limit and I have 10 scheduled starts this week, because I had three starters tonight, Mike Leake, Dillon Gee and de la Rosa. Of course, Gee is postponed and de la Rosa is dealing...

[Timmy!]

Our bullpen sucks balls.

Yes Timmy, indeed they do.

[Thnikkaman]

I try not to mix my forums too much, but this was an excellent article written about Tulo:


Nearly two decades ago, a fifth grade class was assigned with writing about what they wanted to be when they grew up. When one student told his teacher, Mr. Walker, that he was going to be a major league shortstop, he was scolded and told that he had to pick something more realistic instead. It didn't really matter what Mr Walker thought was realistic though, because as it turns out, this child would stop at nothing to prove people wrong and realize his dream of not only becoming a major league shortstop, but also becoming the best player in baseball. Each rejection, each "you can't stay at that position", and each perceived snub only fueled him more.

The Rest here:
http://www.purplerow.com/2013/6/18/4441114/tuesday-rockpile

[CoachChaz]

George Frazier and Drew Goodman were talking about this a couple of nights ago. George said that Tulo gets hurt because he plays extremely hard, and anyone playing like that is subject to injuries. I totally agree with that. Tulo goes "all out" every game he plays.

Not everyone can be a Cal Ripken. But this is why he needs to be moved to third.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

from article Thnikkaman posted:


This is usually the point in the conversation where people will suggest Tulo change positions, but I'm not in that camp at all. If you look at Tulo's injuries throughout his career, they could have just as easily come playing elsewhere on the diamond. The final play of his 2012 season that resulted in surgery came when he was running out of the batter's box and his rib fracture this season could have come diving for a ball at a corner infield position.

I firmly believe that the best course of action here is to ride with Tulowitzki at shortstop as long as possible. It's where he wants to stay and he's good enough that 70% of a season from Tulo at short is still going to land you more production than 100% of a season from just about anybody else you're going to put at that position for the foreseeable future. If Tulo is truly doomed to break, he's going break and there's nothing we can do to prevent it.

http://www.purplerow.com/2013/6/18/4...esday-rockpile

I agree with this, and I am loving what Nolen is doing at 3rd. He has made some hard to believe defensive plays in his short time with the Rockies.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

TORONTO — Veteran pitcher Roy Oswalt will start for the Rockies on Thursday in Washington, manager Walt Weiss said, as Colorado looks to provide a boost to its rotation and ease the burden on the bullpen.

"He's a nice piece to add at this point," Weiss said Tuesday. "He always competes."

By choice, Oswalt, 35, made five starts for Double-A Tulsa, strengthening his arm and working on his command. He is one of the most accomplished pitchers to join the Rockies, though questions remain on how much he has left after his unsuccessful stint with the Texas Rangers last season.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23486620/roy-oswalt-make-colorado-rockies-debut-washington

[MOtorboat]

Francis already getting shelled.

[slim]

Francis already getting shelled.

Yeah, that's what he does best.

[Thnikkaman]

I think Nicasio is going to be able to pitch with confidence tomorrow.

[MOtorboat]

Hopefully this will make Rockies fans feel a little better.

Ubaldo is doing his thang...the Royals scored two runs (both earned) without a hit in the third inning tonight.

Walks and wild pitches.

[Thnikkaman]

Hopefully this will make Rockies fans feel a little better.

Ubaldo is doing his thang...the Royals scored two runs (both earned) without a hit in the third inning tonight.

Walks and wild pitches.

He used to be Wildly Effective. Now he's just Wild.

[Timmy!]

Bye bye Francis.

[MOtorboat]

How Ubaldo is this?

Royals getting one-hit in the fifth, up 2-0.

[Thnikkaman]

If anyone want's to know why I'm grumpy, this is why.

[MOtorboat]

If anyone want's to know why I'm grumpy, this is why.

Pretty bad. Pretty effing bad.

[MOtorboat]

@TroyRenck: Rox trade EY jr to mets for rhp Collin mchugh. He will go to AA

[Denver Native (Carol)]

TORONTO — Jeff Francis' locker was cleared out Wednesday, and his time with the Rockies could be over.

Though a roster move will not be official until Thursday, Francis will not re-join the team in Washington. Colorado is expected to clear a roster spot for Roy Oswalt, who will start Thursday night's game.

There is a possibility Francis could remain with the Rockies' organization, but he would have to agree to go to Triple A Colorado Springs because of his major league service time. He has minor-league options remaining.


rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23495098/jeff-francis-leaves-colorado-rockies-roy-oswalt

[Denver Native (Carol)]

WASHINGTON — The Rockies were able to clear a spot for Roy Oswalt and keep Jeff Francis. The veteran left-hander Francis agreed to accept a minor-league assignment, heading to Triple-A Colorado Springs as the Rockies insert Oswalt into the rotation Thursday at Washington.

Francis could have become a free agent given his big league service time. However, he surveyed the landscape and decided that the Sky Sox presented the best opportunity available. It speaks to his accurate self-evaluation.

The Rockies placed Chris Volstad on waivers to clear a 40-man spot for Oswalt.

rest - http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2013/06/20/jeff-francis-will-accept-minor-league-assignment/14891/

[BroncoAV06]

It's like the Rockies are in the twilight zone.

SS gets hurt season goes down the tubes.

Oswalt is pitching nice, 10 Ks but 8 hits.

[MOtorboat]

GREAT trivia question on the Rockies broadcast today:

Who hit the first home run for the Nationals in Washington, D.C. (2005)? (Answer in blue below)

Vinny Castilla, April 14, 2005 off of Javier Vasquez of the Diamondbacks.

[Thnikkaman]

Good to see our boys in Purple get the last two games of that series. Lets see if we can turn our interleague troubles around in Bawstun.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

WASHINGTON — Relevance has led to due diligence. With the Rockies contending in the National League West, the team has begun to explore the starting pitching market.

They have called about multiple pitchers, including the Miami Marlins' Ricky Nolasco. However, nothing is percolating, with the Rockies laying groundwork more than closing in on a deal. The reality is Colorado wants to give the current rotation — Jorge De La Rosa, Jhoulys Chacin, Tyler Chatwood, Roy Oswalt and Juan Nicasio — a chance and would look to provide an opportunity to prospect Drew Pomeranz before making a trade.

De La Rosa and Chacin have combined to post a 2.08 ERA over their past six starts, Chatwood has not allowed more than two runs in seven consecutive outings and Oswalt fanned 11 in his debut. Nicasio is clearly on transparent ice, potentially replaced by Pomeranz if he doesn't improve.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23524553/rockies-look-at-other-pitchers-but-rotation-gets

[CoachChaz]

Good to see our boys in Purple get the last two games of that series. Lets see if we can turn our interleague troubles around in Bawstun.

Please do.

[BroncoAV06]

Belise has struggled as of late. Blew the lead and Rockies slide continues.

[Thnikkaman]

Such Crap. Heal quickly Tulo.

[CoachChaz]

Thanks for the help against Boston

[Thnikkaman]

Thanks for the help against Boston

I wanted to break something. We still have two more games against them not in their gimmicky stadium

[Denver Native (Carol)]

It's that time of year when the weather turns steaming hot and trade rumors begin to percolate.

For the Rockies, still alive in the hunt for their first National League West title, that could mean reinforcements for the starting rotation and the bullpen. The club is aggressively scouting pitchers across the majors, including Brewers starting right-hander Yovani Gallardo and Cubs starting right-hander Matt Garza.

The Rockies also are taking a look at Cubs closer Kevin Gregg.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23556907/trade-winds-swirl-colorado-rockies-monitor-other-teams

[CoachChaz]

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23556907/trade-winds-swirl-colorado-rockies-monitor-other-teams

You dont want anything to do with Gregg. When the Orioles depleted pitching staff DFA's someone, there is a pretty good reason.

Epstein and Hoyer forgot how to trade, so there are probably a ton of teams lined up to try to rape them for Garza...and Gallargo will probably cost you more than you want to give up

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Rockies activated closer Rafael Betancourt off the disabled listed Friday. To make room for him, they optioned struggling right-handed starter Juan Nicasio to Triple-A Colorado Springs.

Betancourt, 38, was available for Friday night's game against the Giants at Coors Field. He is 1-3 in 22 appearances with 11 saves and has a 3.20 ERA. Nicasio, 26, is 4-4 this season with a 5.31 ERA, but is 1-4 in his past 10 starts. Though he throws an electric fastball, he's been inconsistent throwing it, and he's struggled to command his changeup and slider.

Nicasio's demotion means left-hander Drew Pomeranz will start Sunday's game against the Giants. The Denver Post first reported Thursday that Pomeranz would start Sunday.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_23562302/rafael-betancourt-comes-off-dl-rockies-demote-juan

[Timmy!]

:face palm: Same old rockies

[BroncoAV06]

:face palm: Same old rockies

They won the series at least!....

From the beginning I liked the Cuddy pick up, he scuffled some last season and everyone jumped the ship. He is a steady MLB hitter.

[BroncoAV06]

I dislike this bullpen so much.

Get to Grenkie early and nope the streaking Dodgers win again and are on there way to the NL West lead.

[Thnikkaman]

**** the Dodgers

[BroncoAV06]

Nice, Cargo with back spasms.

The news about Tulo is awesome. Swinging and fielding. Could be back in the next week best case!

[BroncoAV06]

Nolasco to the Dodgers.

Pom is going to have to start getting it done at the MLB level.

[BroncoAV06]

Pomeranz pitches alot like Ubaldo. Ton of walks minus the ability to strike people out.

Not to high on the young gun these days.

[BroncoAV06]

The Rockies, turning pitchers into Cy Young candidates since 1993!

[spikerman]

Wow, this is a bad team. Kind of surprising considering all of the moves they made to get better. :rolleyes:

[Timmy!]

Annnnnnnnd I'm done. Please hurry training camp

[Thnikkaman]

Dear baseball Gods,

What do I need to do to send the injury bug back to LA, or to send it to Arizona? I am not ready to give up on this team. I am tired of the Diamondbacks, who's a team with no fan support what so ever enjoy winning seasons while our beloved Rockies who consistently fill the stadium and get people to come out when there's snow in the stands continues to falter due to injuries. What do I have to do to have all of our stars be healthy for a full season?

Signed, Thnikkaman

[CoachChaz]

Dear baseball Gods,

What do I need to do to send the injury bug back to LA, or to send it to Arizona? I am not ready to give up on this team. I am tired of the Diamondbacks, who's a team with no fan support what so ever enjoy winning seasons while our beloved Rockies who consistently fill the stadium and get people to come out when there's snow in the stands continues to falter due to injuries. What do I have to do to have all of our stars be healthy for a full season?

Signed, Thnikkaman

Those Gods dont exist. Just ask fans of the Rays, Jays and O's. We've been asking the same thing for many years while the Skanks and Sux have been living it up. All prayers go unanswered

[Thnikkaman]

Those Gods dont exist. Just ask fans of the Rays, Jays and O's. We've been asking the same thing for many years while the Skanks and Sux have been living it up. All prayers go unanswered

In my heart, I know this to be true.

But as a fan, I do silly things.

[CoachChaz]

In my heart, I know this to be true.

But as a fan, I do silly things.

We all do. I actually put $20 on the O's to win at least 4 out of the 7 upcoming games against Texas. Damn Rangers fans take advantage of my passion for my team

[BroncoAV06]

The Rockies will forever be cursed by the what ifs.

What if Tulo wasn't made of plastic?

What if the Rockies didn't have to wait forever before playing the Red Sox?

[Buff]

Our front office is pathetic. It's as if they are caught off guard by the idea that they have to assemble a pitching staff every year.

Volstad, Garland, Oswalt, Francis, Nicasio, Pomeranz... None of these guys are starting caliber pitchers in 2013. And now that the wheels are falling off, they are talking about picking up the Astros pitcher who just got demoted to the bullpen.

WTF? The Rockies are like the Bengals of MLB. Just clueless.

[CoachChaz]

Our front office is pathetic. It's as if they are caught off guard by the idea that they have to assemble a pitching staff every year.

Volstad, Garland, Oswalt, Francis, Nicasio, Pomeranz... None of these guys are starting caliber pitchers in 2013. And now that the wheels are falling off, they are talking about picking up the Astros pitcher who just got demoted to the bullpen.

WTF? The Rockies are like the Bengals of MLB. Just clueless.


Their rotation is no worse than Baltimore's. (Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Feldman, Tillman) The biggest difference is our leadership and ingenuity in Showalter and Duquette. Hire a GM and manager worth a damn and you'll see a big change.

[Buff]

Their rotation is no worse than Baltimore's. (Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Feldman, Tillman) The biggest difference is our leadership and ingenuity in Showalter and Duquette. Hire a GM and manager worth a damn and you'll see a big change.

Our rotation is quite a bit worse than Baltimore's from a sheer talent standpoint. If our rotation had to pitch in the AL East the results would be ugly. Did you see the names I just rattled off? We desperately need a GM who is worth a damn, but our ownership is clueless.

It really doesn't matter who manages the team when you run a mickey mouse starting rotation out there every year.

[CoachChaz]

Their rotation is no worse than Baltimore's. (Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Feldman, Tillman) The biggest difference is our leadership and ingenuity in Showalter and Duquette. Hire a GM and manager worth a damn and you'll see a big change.

Our rotation is quite a bit worse than Baltimore's from a sheer talent standpoint. If our rotation had to pitch in the AL East the results would be ugly. Did you see the names I just rattled off? We desperately need a GM who is worth a damn, but our ownership is clueless.

It really doesn't matter who manages the team when you run a mickey mouse starting rotation out there every year.

Our pitching is ranked 14th in the AL. Only Houston is worse. But, we have a good offense, stellar defense and good leadership. If we had ANY pitching, we'd be killing it. Unfortunately, we have an owner that refuses to pay for an Ace

[Poet]

Our front office is pathetic. It's as if they are caught off guard by the idea that they have to assemble a pitching staff every year.

Volstad, Garland, Oswalt, Francis, Nicasio, Pomeranz... None of these guys are starting caliber pitchers in 2013. And now that the wheels are falling off, they are talking about picking up the Astros pitcher who just got demoted to the bullpen.

WTF? The Rockies are like the Bengals of MLB. Just clueless.

Whoa...The Bengals are actually doing pretty well. Three playoffs in four years is actually respectable. Granted we get trounced when we're in there, but still. Was that world series run just a fluke? I also kinda thought that would be what turned your franchise around.

[Thnikkaman]

Chacin, JDLR, and Chatwood are actually pretty damn good when they have run support. Nicasio will be better iff he is successful in developing better secondary stuff in AAA. I think Pomeranz is a headcase.

Unfortunately for the Rockies, it's not just poor front office work, but the Rockies have to overcome the stigma that good pitchers can't be successful at altitude.

[MOtorboat]

are actually pretty damn good when they have run support.

Think about that for a second.

[Buff]

Whoa...The Bengals are actually doing pretty well. Three playoffs in four years is actually respectable. Granted we get trounced when we're in there, but still. Was that world series run just a fluke? I also kinda thought that would be what turned your franchise around.

Yeah - lately you've been making smart moves... But that doesn't erase a couple decades of futility and a cheapskate owner. There is probably a better analogy - the point is our ownership and front office are both equally clueless. It's the blind leading the blind.

The World Series trip was almost a disservice because it sort of validated our cheapskate model of not spending $$ on pitching for a little while.

[Thnikkaman]

Think about that for a second.

I know exactly what I said. Chatwood should have won his start against the Mets if it wasn't for the 2 runs our offense got for him in support. We lost 3-2. We are lacking a #4 and #5 starter that will keep us in games, and our stars that can give our 1-3 starters enough run support to keep them in games.

[Buff]

Our pitching is ranked 14th in the AL. Only Houston is worse. But, we have a good offense, stellar defense and good leadership. If we had ANY pitching, we'd be killing it. Unfortunately, we have an owner that refuses to pay for an Ace

Yeah, you guys have a shitty staff. I just took issue with the contention that it's as shitty as ours. With all due respect, we have The Shittiest staff in MLB outside of Houston, which is barely even a real team. Relatively speaking the numbers are similar - but we don't play in the AL East.

[MOtorboat]

I know exactly what I said. Chatwood should have won his start against the Mets if it wasn't for the 2 runs our offense got for him in support. We lost 3-2. We are lacking a #4 and #5 starter that will keep us in games, and our stars that can give our 1-3 starters enough run support to keep them in games.

And then he got shelled against L.A.

[Poet]

Yeah - lately you've been making smart moves... But that doesn't erase a couple decades of futility and a cheapskate owner. There is probably a better analogy - the point is our ownership and front office are both equally clueless. It's the blind leading the blind.

The World Series trip was almost a disservice because it sort of validated our cheapskate model of not spending $$ on pitching for a little while.

We're closing in on ten years of being mediocre! Oh yeah!

I think your analogy is Cleveland. Or Arizona since they also made it to the last round of competition. They sucked before and after that as well. Zona it is.

[Thnikkaman]

And then he got shelled against L.A.

I'm not denying that. He's still got a sub 3.0 ERA (LOL statistics)

[KC is a toilet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNsmiqmaEWo

[CoachChaz]

I know exactly what I said. Chatwood should have won his start against the Mets if it wasn't for the 2 runs our offense got for him in support. We lost 3-2. We are lacking a #4 and #5 starter that will keep us in games, and our stars that can give our 1-3 starters enough run support to keep them in games.

I'll disagree with this by saying you have a similar problem to Baltimore. You already have the solid #3, #4 and #5 guys. What you lack are the TRUE #1 and #2 guys. The problem is your solid back end pitchers are forced to be the TOR guys that they dont have the talent to be. Same as the O's

[BroncoAV06]

Seriously the Rockies pitching is horrible.

Baltimore leads the AL in saves, their bull-pen picks up the slack which is something that the Rockies can't count on.

It's going to be hard for anyone to feel bad for a team that is 49-40.

Rockies are last in the NL with only 36 quality starts as well and a huge 16 saves...

[CoachChaz]

Seriously the Rockies pitching is horrible.

Baltimore leads the AL in saves, their bull-pen picks up the slack which is something that the Rockies can't count on.

It's going to be hard for anyone to feel bad for a team that is 49-40.

Rockies are last in the NL with only 36 quality starts as well and a huge 16 saves...

First off, our closer has blown 6 saves already...and we've lost all 6 of those games. Our bullpen ERA is horrible outside of O'Day and Hunter...who have both been shaky lately as well. Part of the reason is because we dont have a starter that can seem to make it into the 7th inning, so the pen is over-worked. We lead the AL in saves because we win games 7-6.

Yes, we are 49-40, but only 28-28 since May and we've lost 7 of our last 10. The hitting has gone cold. Pitchers realize we have NO ONE worth a damn behind Davis, so they arent throwing strikes. In the last few games, he has 1 hit and 10 strikeouts.

Trust me...we'll be lucky to finish above .500 if we dont add a bat and a TOR pitcher.

[Thnikkaman]

Thought Chatwood was going to go 9 innings, then he took an arrow to the knee.

Derp, I mean a ball to the ankle.

[BroncoAV06]

First off, our closer has blown 6 saves already...and we've lost all 6 of those games. Our bullpen ERA is horrible outside of O'Day and Hunter...who have both been shaky lately as well. Part of the reason is because we dont have a starter that can seem to make it into the 7th inning, so the pen is over-worked. We lead the AL in saves because we win games 7-6.

Yes, we are 49-40, but only 28-28 since May and we've lost 7 of our last 10. The hitting has gone cold. Pitchers realize we have NO ONE worth a damn behind Davis, so they arent throwing strikes. In the last few games, he has 1 hit and 10 strikeouts.

Trust me...we'll be lucky to finish above .500 if we dont add a bat and a TOR pitcher.

You need to enjoy your team more.

Davis historic first half. Machado could be a HOF player, Jones is a stud.

O's hit the long ball and score runs!

Defense can make up for pitching, look at the last two Rockies teams to go to the post season. Not great pitching but lead the league in fielding. That is exactly what the O's are doing!

[KC is a toilet]

I used to admire the Rockies organization, but over the course of time I have realized they are a cheap, nickel-and-dime outfit and I have the proof on paper demonstrating how low class their organization is. Plus, their broadcasting crew of Drew Goodman and George Frazier puts me to sleep.

[Buff]

I used to admire the Rockies organization, but over the course of time I have realized they are a cheap, nickel-and-dime outfit and I have the proof on paper to prove how low class their organization is. Plus, their broadcasting crew of Drew Goodman and George Frazier puts me to sleep.

I don't hate Goodman, but I'm with you on the rest of the ROOT broadcast. Frazier is a hack. Huson always states the obvious. Jenny Cavnar's voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Mark Stout is painfully awkward. Ringolsby isn't cut out for TV.

The bottom line is we have a bush league franchise from top to bottom.

[CoachChaz]

You need to enjoy your team more.

Davis historic first half. Machado could be a HOF player, Jones is a stud.

O's hit the long ball and score runs!

Defense can make up for pitching, look at the last two Rockies teams to go to the post season. Not great pitching but lead the league in fielding. That is exactly what the O's are doing!

I'm not a fan that looks at things blindly. Yes, we have some positives on this team. Davis has finally turned the corner in his career, but have you wantched him the past few weeks? Pitchers have learned they dont have to pitch to him because we have NO ONE worth a damn batting behind him. Who is afraid of Weiters and Hardy?

Machado should be a cornerstone of this team for many years and I am ecstatic about that. I look forward to his contiued development.

Jones is solid, but should NOT be in the 3 ro 4 hole. Have you seen how many walks he has in 390 plate appearances so far this year? 9. Only 9 friggin walks from someone hitting in a power spot in the line-up. That's pretty damn bad.

The defense is definitely solid. Maybe the best defense in the majors. But even a great defense cant help a pitching staff that seems to throw batting practice every night. Our staff is horrible and it isnt going to change. Our owner has publicly stated that he will NEVER spend 15 mil on a guy that only playus once every five days. So even if a FA Ace wanted to come to Baltimore...we'd never pay for him. So, all we can do is develop our arms in-house. Which has worked out so well the last 10 years with our top pitching prospects. Loewen, Riley, Hobgood, Arrieta, Britton, Matusz, Tillman...any of them get your heart rate up? But, we have 3 solid guys in the minors. Unfortunately one of them just had TJ surgery, another cant seem to develop a 3rd pitch and throws the strightest fastball on the planet and the 3rd is an immature head case.

We just dropped to 3rd in the division and we're only a half game out of 4th. Trust me when I say a .500 season is very likely

[BroncoAV06]

Who wants their clean up hitter to walk? That's not their job.

You don't have to be looking at things blindly to enjoy things.

It does not make you a better fan to be harder on your team or drink the cool-aid.

I'm not denying the O's could pitch better. But it also doesn't mean they are out of it giving the fact there is still half a season to play.

I love your knowledge by the way.

[Buff]

So Mitchell Boggs ought to save our season. :fart:

[CoachChaz]

Who wants their clean up hitter to walk? That's not their job.

You don't have to be looking at things blindly to enjoy things.

It does not make you a better fan to be harder on your team or drink the cool-aid.

I'm not denying the O's could pitch better. But it also doesn't mean they are out of it giving the fact there is still half a season to play.

I love your knowledge by the way.

Jones shouldnt be the clean-up hitter to begin with. And EVERY team should want their lineup to possess and high OBP. Personally, I'd go with a lineup that started with McLouth, Markakis, Machado, Davis and then Jones. Adam is going to swing at everything to begin with...may as well put him in a spot where he'll actually see strikes.

I'm not really giving up on the season...I just know there arent any improvements to look forward to. Last year at this time, we were in the process of falling to 10 games back and eventuslly finished within one. A lot of things went right for that to happen...I just dont expect lightning to strike twice. Especially with the constraints our owner puts on the front office. Maybe one day he'll actually tell us what he did with all of that MASN tv contract money

[Thnikkaman]

Tulo went 3-3 for the Sky Sox last night. Should be in LA on Thursday I believe.

Oh, and Buff don't know shit about anything but football and how bad the Root sports broadcast is. So glad their contract is up soon.

[Buff]

Tulo went 3-3 for the Sky Sox last night. Should be in LA on Thursday I believe.

Oh, and Buff don't know shit about anything but football and how bad the Root sports broadcast is. So glad their contract is up soon.

It kills you that I am a bigger Rockies fan than you.

[Thnikkaman]

It kills you that I am a bigger Rockies fan than you.

This is as true as Honey Boo Boo's mother being a size 0. You are the Chef Zambini of Rockies fandom.

[BroncoAV06]

ROFL Copter.

I'm the biggest Avs fan ever, it's in my screen name....

[Thnikkaman]

I would even go far enough to say that I love the Rockies more than I love the Broncos at this point.

[CoachChaz]

I would even go far enough to say that I love the Rockies more than I love the Broncos at this point.

That would be a no brainer for me. I know I love the O's more than the Broncos...but then again...my heart is an actual baseball

[Thnikkaman]

That would be a no brainer for me. I know I love the O's more than the Broncos...but then again...my heart is an actual baseball

And I completely understand why now. Even in my hierarchy of team sports, football sits tied at 2 with hockey. Football is fun, but it just doesn't do it for me like it used to.

[CoachChaz]

And I completely understand why now. Even in my hierarchy of team sports, football sits tied at 2 with hockey. Football is fun, but it just doesn't do it for me like it used to.

I'll put hockey as a 2a behind football. I love the game just as much, but the NHL has pissed me off the last 10 years

[Thnikkaman]

I'll put hockey as a 2a behind football. I love the game just as much, but the NHL has pissed me off the last 10 years

This I agree with. The NBA can eat a bowl of dicks. I already follow an individual sport, it's called golf.

[CoachChaz]

This I agree with. The NBA can eat a bowl of dicks. I already follow an individual sport, it's called golf.

Amen. I watch golf religiously on weekends. I'll watch basketball when it's on at the bar.

[Buff]

Nothing compares to football season. The Broncos and Buffs will always be my #1s. After that I claim the Avs as my second favorite team, but if I am honest I watch a ton more Rockies baseball than I do Avs hockey. And I'm much more dialed in to the nuances of the team. The Nuggets are and have always been a distant 4th for me.

[CoachChaz]

I could get behind football before Goodell pussified it. I'd much rather see steroids go rampant in baseball than see the continued progression towards flag football in the NFL.

[Thnikkaman]

So Buff #1 Rockies fan, are you excited to find out how Jonathan Gray does in his first start in GJ today? It's only 3 innings, but we don't want to break our new toy do we?

[Buff]

So Buff #1 Rockies fan, are you excited to find out how Jonathan Gray does in his first start in GJ today? It's only 3 innings, but we don't want to break our new toy do we?

Much like college football recruiting, I don't like to get too vested in these guys until they are closer to joining the team. Lots of heartbreak involved. Our track record in developing young pitchers is pretty awful.

That said, I am happy we took Gray, and hopeful that he can develop into a serviceable starter.

[CoachChaz]

Much like college football recruiting, I don't like to get too vested in these guys until they are closer to joining the team. Lots of heartbreak involved. Our track record in developing young pitchers is pretty awful.

That said, I am happy we took Gray, and hopeful that he can develop into a serviceable starter.

I feel your pain

[chazoe60]

It kills you that I am a bigger Rockies fan than you.

Not even close hippie.

In terms of Rockie fandom from members of this MB you're way down the list. You're the BTB of Rockies fans.

[Buff]

Not even close hippie.

In terms of Rockie fandom from members of this MB you're way down the list. You're the BTB of Rockies fans.

A.) You are nowhere near qualified to judge my fandom.
B.) I have been attending games since the inaugural season and would pit my Rockies knowledge against anyone here.
C.) I've just become so numb to our mismanagement and losing ways that my expectations are as low as they can possibly be for a professional sports franchise.

[chazoe60]

A.) You are nowhere near qualified to judge my fandom.
B.) I have been attending games since the inaugural season and would pit my Rockies knowledge against anyone here.
C.) I've just become so numb to our mismanagement and losing ways that my expectations are as low as they can possibly be for a professional sports franchise.
You realize I was just ******* with you, right?


On a serious note, you're a shitty Rockies fan ;)

I've alwas wondered when your speaking about a fan of a team do you use the apostrophe? Is it "Buff, you're a shitty Rockies fan" or "Buff, you're a shitty Rockie's fan" or "Buff, you're a shitty Rockies' fan"?

[Buff]

You realize I was just ******* with you, right?


On a serious note, you're a shitty Rockies fan ;)

I've alwas wondered when your speaking about a fan of a team do you use the apostrophe? Is it "Buff, you're a shitty Rockies fan" or "Buff, you're a shitty Rockie's fan" or "Buff, you're a shitty Rockies' fan"?

I know you are... And I was just ******* with thnikk claiming to be a bigger fan. But then I felt inclined to prove my OG street cred.

The first is grammatically correct, I believe... I have spent the last 10 minutes reading up on pronouns thanks to you.

[chazoe60]

I know you are... And I was just ******* with thnikk claiming to be a bigger fan. But then I felt inclined to prove my OG street cred.

The first is grammatically correct, I believe... I have spent the last 10 minutes reading up on pronouns thanks to you.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

LOS ANGELES — Because of an injured finger, Rockies outfielder Carlos Gonzalez will not participate in the Home Run Derby on Monday night as part of the all-star festivities.

He still plans to play in the All-Star Game on Tuesday night at Citi Field in New York. Gonzalez injured the middle finger on his right hand Sunday in his third at-bat against Arizona.

He will be replaced in the derby by Pittsburgh third baseman Pedro Alvarez, who has 23 home runs and is hitting .250.

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23643367/carlos-gonzalez-out-home-run-derby-rockies-slugger

[KC is a toilet]

Carlos Gonzalez took a big fat shit on a hanging Brandon League breaking ball last night. :laugh:

[CoachChaz]

Carlos Gonzalez took a big fat shit on a hanging Brandon League breaking ball last night. :laugh:

That helped the team

[Thnikkaman]

Very nice game by Nicasio last night. In his last two games (including his last AAA game), he hasn't allowed a run in 15 innings.

[BroncoAV06]

Hat tip to Chatwood.

[EMB6903]

Grienke and chatwood both have pitched gems.

That umpire has had a large strike zone for both pitchers

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Carlos Gonzalez didn't have toys as a kid.

There was a perfectly good reason.

"I never liked playing with them. I would toss them up in the air and hit them all the time," recalled Gonzalez, motioning his arm at how the little cars would break into pieces.

Growing up in Maracaibo, Venezuela, Gonzalez was a thief. When he went to the homes of relatives, he would scurry away to the kitchen or a back closet.

rest - nice article - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23656753/carlos-gonzalez-evolution-colorado-rockies

[KC is a toilet]

Eddie Butler looked pretty filthy in today's Futures Game appearance, showing off a 98 mph fastball and a hard slider in the high 80s. He struck out one of the most big league ready prospects in the game, Xander Bogaerts, on three pitches.

[Thnikkaman]

Eddie Butler looked pretty filthy in today's Futures Game appearance, showing off a 98 mph fastball and a hard slider in the high 80s. He struck out one of the most big league ready prospects in the game, Xander Bogaerts, on three pitches.

Many are expecting that he will get moved to Tulsa shortly. I don't expect him to hit 99 consistently, but it's incredible to know that he has it when he needs it.

[BroncoAV06]

As bad as it has been at times, it's a good thing the NL West is super average!

Still think the Dodgers are the favorites to win it.

[CoachChaz]

As bad as it has been at times, it's a good thing the NL West is super average!

Still think the Dodgers are the favorites to win it.

I picked them at the beginning of the year. For awhile I thought I was going to look stupid, but they just have too much talent not to win in a bad division

[chazoe60]

Cuddy represented himself and the Rockies well at the HR Derby finishing 3rd.

Speaking of HRs, my boy hit a grandslam tonight at Rec ball. :D

[chazoe60]

Got home just in time to see Manny Corpas pitch very well. I like seeing him do well. I'm a sucker for any player with ties to that 2007 season. I strongly liked baseball before that season, because of that season I absolutely fell in love with the sport. My son was three at the time and he would sit and watch entire games with me and ask questions. now he is the most attentive kid on all his baseball teams. Other parents in the stands are always commenting on his baseball IQ and have no doubt that those attributes can be traced back to him as a three year old soaking up more baseball than most 12 year olds did.

Speaking of the boy he started for his team tonight in game 1 of the tournament and went 3 innings (the most he can pitch and still pitch again in the tournament) struck out 9 (that's right 9!) gave up three runs on two infield hits and two walks. He doesn't throw the hardest but he throws more strikes than the vast majority of 9 year olds. In innings two and three he struck out the side and only threw 6 total balls.

[Thnikkaman]

Got home just in time to see Manny Corpas pitch very well. I like seeing him do well. I'm a sucker for any player with ties to that 2007 season. I strongly liked baseball before that season, because of that season I absolutely fell in love with the sport. My son was three at the time and he would sit and watch entire games with me and ask questions. now he is the most attentive kid on all his baseball teams. Other parents in the stands are always commenting on his baseball IQ and have no doubt that those attributes can be traced back to him as a three year old soaking up more baseball than most 12 year olds did.

Speaking of the boy he started for his team tonight in game 1 of the tournament and went 3 innings (the most he can pitch and still pitch again in the tournament) struck out 9 (that's right 9!) gave up three runs on two infield hits and two walks. He doesn't throw the hardest but he throws more strikes than the vast majority of 9 year olds. In innings two and three he struck out the side and only threw 6 total balls.

Do they start with a 1-1 count?

[CoachChaz]

Do they start with a 1-1 count?

I think he meant 6 non-strikes. I was confused at first as well. Then again...maybe your question is correct, too

[chazoe60]

Do they start with a 1-1 count?

No. I meant 6 non-strikes.

[chazoe60]

I have no visions of granduer, I realize his odds of even playing beyond HS are long but as long as his dream is to be a ball player I'm going to cultivate and nurture that dream. When I was a kid I always told everyone I was going to play in the NFL. I don't know how many well intention adults told me to do something else because it was against the odds that I would make it.

I don't want my boy knowing those long odds until he's older. Right now I just tell him he can do anything he wants to but if he wants to be a ballplayer then he needs to practice, study, and listen to his coaches. I always let him know that it takes a helluva lot of hard work to make it but if he really wants it he can make it happen.

I'm also not gonna hide my pride because as of now, he's a pretty damn good ballplayer for a 9 year old. He is especially good with his glove and his control on the mound. His velocity isn't where it could be if he threw his hardest but he always concentrates more on strikes and tries to throw under control. His batting is what I would call slightly above average for a nine year old but not as advanced as he is in other aspects.

[BroncoAV06]

1 run against the best team in baseball, Miami...wait.

Turrrrrrrrrrrible.

[CoachChaz]

I have no visions of granduer, I realize his odds of even playing beyond HS are long but as long as his dream is to be a ball player I'm going to cultivate and nurture that dream. When I was a kid I always told everyone I was going to play in the NFL. I don't know how many well intention adults told me to do something else because it was against the odds that I would make it.

I don't want my boy knowing those long odds until he's older. Right now I just tell him he can do anything he wants to but if he wants to be a ballplayer then he needs to practice, study, and listen to his coaches. I always let him know that it takes a helluva lot of hard work to make it but if he really wants it he can make it happen.

I'm also not gonna hide my pride because as of now, he's a pretty damn good ballplayer for a 9 year old. He is especially good with his glove and his control on the mound. His velocity isn't where it could be if he threw his hardest but he always concentrates more on strikes and tries to throw under control. His batting is what I would call slightly above average for a nine year old but not as advanced as he is in other aspects.

Not necessarily true. My son just graduated with 3 kids that got scholarships to small schools for baseball. They werent the greatest players, but they stuck with it and marketed themselves properly

[chazoe60]

Not necessarily true. My son just graduated with 3 kids that got scholarships to small schools for baseball. They werent the greatest players, but they stuck with it and marketed themselves properly

Yeah that's true. That's what is so nice about DivII and III schools and even JuCo programs. They give a lot of kids ways to keep playing the games they love and get an education at the same time.

What's your boy gonna do?

[MOtorboat]

No offense to Arenado, who is having an excellent rookie season, but I don't know how Rookie of the Year isn't Yasiel Puig.

[Buff]

No offense to Arenado, who is having an excellent rookie season, but I don't know how Rookie of the Year isn't Yasiel Puig.

Meh. He's having a decent rookie season. His glove is better than advertised. But his ~.250 average is quite a bit worse than advertised.

[MOtorboat]

Meh. He's having a decent rookie season. His glove is better than advertised. But his ~.250 average is quite a bit worse than advertised.

That's what Goodman and the other dude were suggesting before the game.

[slim]

Are the Rockies still playing?

Good for them! I'm glad they haven't given up.

[Buff]

Are the Rockies still playing?

Good for them! I'm glad they haven't given up.

I think you spoke too soon - judging by yesterday and today, I'd say they've officially given up.

[Thnikkaman]

I was really hoping that things would change between the Rox and the Barfs. Holy shit do I hate the Barfs.

[Timmy!]

:tailspin:

[CoachChaz]

Giving up 11 runs to Atlanta is one thing. Try giving up 11 to Houston

[slim]

I was really hoping that things would change between the Rox and the Barfs. Holy shit do I hate the Barfs.

I think your hate is misplaced. Like maybe it should be directed at the Rockies FO and ownership.

[Thnikkaman]

I think your hate is misplaced. Like maybe it should be directed at the Rockies FO and ownership.

Nope. I hate the Barves.

I am excited for Bettis' ML debut tonight.

[CoachChaz]

Nope. I hate the Barves.

I am excited for Bettis' ML debut tonight.

Doesnt make sense. He's been solid in the minors this year, but why bring him up and throw him to the wolves on the road...against a team that has scored 34 runs in it's last 4 games?

[Thnikkaman]

Doesnt make sense. He's been solid in the minors this year, but why bring him up and throw him to the wolves on the road...against a team that has scored 34 runs in it's last 4 games?

Because pomeranz isn't an mlb pitcher, and there is nobody else.

[Buff]

Yep. This is what happens when you try to sign a bunch of journeyman and hope to catch lightning in a bottle - and then predictably don't. Our strategy in assembling a pitching staff was similar to buying a lottery ticket and hoping for the best.

[slim]

Yep. This is what happens when you try to sign a bunch of journeyman and hope to catch lightning in a bottle - and then predictably don't. Our strategy in assembling a pitching staff was similar to buying a lottery ticket and hoping for the best.

More like finding a scratch-off ticket on the ground that someone else had already scratched.

[Thnikkaman]

That was complete and utter bullshit.

Dear Blue, this game ain't about you. I hope you get replaced by a computer when it comes to calling balls and strikes. It's right 100% of the time

[CoachChaz]

Doesnt make sense. He's been solid in the minors this year, but why bring him up and throw him to the wolves on the road...against a team that has scored 34 runs in it's last 4 games?

Because pomeranz isn't an mlb pitcher, and there is nobody else.

No offense, but I called it.

[Thnikkaman]

I figured it would end up this way. For some reason, the Braves always have our number.

[CoachChaz]

Cant wait. We get the Rockies in 2 weeks

[Thnikkaman]

Cant wait. We get the Rockies in 2 weeks

Because I'd this statement, your team will have a tough time with my team.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

ASHEVILLE, N.C. — A judge has told two members of the Asheville Tourists baseball team that they could face life in prison without parole after being charged in the rape of a woman in their apartment.

The Asheville Citizen-Times reports 23-year-old relief pitchers Michael Mason and Jesse Meaux made their first appearances Friday in Buncombe County District Court. The two are charged by police with two counts of first-degree rape and two counts of first-degree sex offense.

Judge Calvin Hill agreed with a prosecution request that the defendants be required to remain in Buncombe County pending further court orders.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23784604/two-rockies-minor-league-pitchers-asheville-accused-rape

[CoachChaz]

Because I'd this statement, your team will have a tough time with my team.

Because your team is under .500 is why my team will have a tough time. Most likely, we'll make your rotation look like Cy Young candidates. At least the games will be in Baltimore.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

PITTSBURGH — The owner arrived Friday. The Rockies held a team meeting. But in this case, one plus one didn't equal two. Rockies owner Dick Monfort joined the team for the remainder of the road trip because he's going to the Dominican Republic to officially open the team's new facility on Monday. The Rockies' talk was simply a discussion of the Pirates.

Monfort remains optimistic that his club can execute a U-turn even as he admitted that the Atlanta series this week left him "feeling like (bleep)."

With the Rockies falling out of contention after being swept in four games by Atlanta, Monfort addressed several issues, including the club's plan to exercise pitcher Jorge De La Rosa's club option. He also indicated the payroll will be increased next season and he would like to add a right-handed impact bat in the outfield if, as planned, Michael Cuddyer moves to first base following Todd Helton's retirement.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23786650/dick-monfort-believes-rockies-can-rebound-even-after

Interesting comment from Monfort in regards to Todd. Todd has stated that he has not made up his mind if this year will be his last year.

[MOtorboat]

Rockies will pick up De La Rosa's team option for next year, per MLB.com via Hardballtalk.

Edit: And if I had read all of Carol's post I would have known that already. Thanks Obama.

[chazoe60]

Still love my Rockies but their season is over.

[Thnikkaman]

Games are still somewhat meaningful, but short a 2007 era streak, it ain't happening. I want this team to get to .500 though.

[CoachChaz]

Games are still somewhat meaningful, but short a 2007 era streak, it ain't happening. I want this team to get to .500 though.

Baltimore will help you get to .500 next weekend

[Thnikkaman]

Eddie Butler threw 5 scoreless innings in his Tulsa Debut allowing 2 hits and striking out 6.

[slim]

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_23786650/dick-monfort-believes-rockies-can-rebound-even-after

Interesting comment from Monfort in regards to Todd. Todd has stated that he has not made up his mind if this year will be his last year.

Good to see that ownership is still totally clueless.

[BroncoAV06]

Baltimore will help you get to .500 next weekend

Yeah those terrible O's who are only 1.5 games out of a wild card spot. How can you watch them?

It's like a buddy of mine who is a Cards fan thinking it's the end of the world since the Dodgers pounded on them a bit.

I have some good cheese that goes well with whine.

[Thnikkaman]

I'm approaching insanity here. Here is your chance for all the "I told you so's". This is not the same team from April and May, and I know the Monforts aren't going to do anything about it. I hope this is the closest thing I ever feel to living in a country ruled by a Despot. It feels like the Monforts take pleasure in torturing baseball fans.

[slim]

I'm approaching insanity here. Here is your chance for all the "I told you so's". This is not the same team from April and May, and I know the Monforts aren't going to do anything about it. I hope this is the closest thing I ever feel to living in a country ruled by a Despot. It feels like the Monforts take pleasure in torturing baseball fans.

It sucks being a Rockie fan. I guess maybe I've been spoiled by the Broncos (very few down years in my lifetime).

If not for the 13-4 start, this is a 100 loss team.

[Thnikkaman]

I don't agree with that. The pitching of our top 3 has been way better than our worst teams. I honestly think that if Tulo didn't get injured in the series against the Nats, we are in 2nd place in the West trying to catch up to the Dodgers. I think the deficit created between the injuries of Cargo and Tulo are weighing heavily on the minds of our "stars" and they just don't have their heads in the right place.

If we EVER get a full season from Tulo, this will be a tough team to beat.

[Buff]

I'm approaching insanity here. Here is your chance for all the "I told you so's". This is not the same team from April and May, and I know the Monforts aren't going to do anything about it. I hope this is the closest thing I ever feel to living in a country ruled by a Despot. It feels like the Monforts take pleasure in torturing baseball fans.

I ******* told you so. They are who we thought they were.

[chazoe60]

You know what though, I ******* still love watching baseball. I could watch a baseball game a day if I had the time. I usually watch a couple innings at least of most Rockies games. My son and I like to watch the ladt few innings before he goes to bed, and for that I am thankful to the Rockies even when they suck.

[Buff]

You know what though, I ******* still love watching baseball. I could watch a baseball game a day if I had the time. I usually watch a couple innings at least of most Rockies games. My son and I like to watch the ladt few innings before he goes to bed, and for that I am thankful to the Rockies even when they suck.

This latest road trip was my breaking point. Not even competitive or relevant. AAA lineups. Unwatchable baseball.

[Broncolingus]

Fire Dealin' Dan and send 'Chuck & Dick' with him...

3224

(...idiots above...)

[Timmy!]

I ******* told you so. They are who we thought they were.

Ya, what a shock, they kinda suck. At least they stayed semi relevant till preseason football.

[CoachChaz]

Swept the Pirates

[Thnikkaman]

I thought I had posted something in here about how I thought I was done, and then we go and sweep one of the best teams in the league.

Anyway, I'm still in. Even to the point where I don't care about football right now.

[slim]

Lol

[CoachChaz]

I thought I had posted something in here about how I thought I was done, and then we go and sweep one of the best teams in the league.

Anyway, I'm still in. Even to the point where I don't care about football right now.

You have to stay "in" long enough to give me shit this weekend when they make my O's look stupid

[Thnikkaman]

You have to stay "in" long enough to give me shit this weekend when they make my O's look stupid

I don't expect that, but I am enjoying watching Arenado become a real honest to goodness MLB 3rd baseman. So excited to see Machado and Arenado in the same game.