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The Avs picked up D-man Ruslan Solei (sp?) and ... drum roll ...
ADAM FOOTE!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?page=0708tradetracker
underrated29
02-26-2008, 01:50 PM
NO WAY! yeeaahhoooooooo!!!!!!!!
I cant check the link though, what did we give up?????? Please let it not be liles, i know its gonna be liles and someone. please no.
help me out SR, post this for me please
We gave the jackets a first round pick in the 2008 draft if we make the playoffs. If we don't make the playoffs, they get our 2009 first round pick. That's what the Rocky Mountain News says.
Denver Native (Carol)
02-26-2008, 02:14 PM
GREAT NEWS - Adam Foote back also :elefant: Now, suppose we could lure Patrick Roy out of retirement :salute:
Medford Bronco
02-26-2008, 02:16 PM
You need Joe Sakic to be healthy and you guys WILL make the playoffs and I would love to see a Det vs Avs 1st round for old time sake
underrated29
02-26-2008, 02:20 PM
Ok i can live with that. Footey is a stud and still has some great years left. We needed to get bigger and meaner. Its about time. I am tired of all this finess crap we have been doing lately.
BroncoAV06
02-26-2008, 02:53 PM
JML was the name that came up the most in trades. Like the guy but I guess they felt they could get something good in return since Cumminsky is the up and comer that can be the puck mover on the blue line. Hopefully Foote can help bring the D together, solidify. Avs going to have alot of chemistry issues but hopefully they all work out for the better. Good to see that Avs address the D that name wise looks good now just see how that translates to the ice.
Not crazy about giving up a 1st rounder... But seeing Adam Foote and Forsberg in Avs jerseys once again is going to be unreal... It'll take me back to the glory days *tear*...
Solei will only help to solidify the D...
Finally, I'm excited about hockey again.
BroncoAV06
02-26-2008, 03:03 PM
Again?
Avs have some good talent, most likely won't be a high first but hockey draft is way different from other leauges. Sad to see Skras go, but Solie should be a nice addition.
dogfish
02-26-2008, 03:15 PM
holy shit, that freakin' rules!!
:woot: :woot: :woot:
too bad i can't actually watch any of their games. . . . :mad:
Medford Bronco
02-26-2008, 03:23 PM
holy shit, that freakin' rules!!
:woot: :woot: :woot:
too bad i can't actually watch any of their games. . . . :mad:
need to get CenterIce on Directv.
Med is too poor to have it :sad:
but do have the NHL network that gives a lot of highlights
better than ESPN 35s thirty seconds worth and full coverage of spygate 24/7 and the stupid Clemens congress crap.
BroncoAV06
02-26-2008, 03:33 PM
Or you could just get the sports package instead of center ice and you should get Altitude which televises all Nuggets and Avs games excpet for the 1 or 2 that or on TNT or Verses. I can not wait untill I can get my DirecTV back!
Medford Bronco
02-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Or you could just get the sports package instead of center ice and you should get Altitude which televises all Nuggets and Avs games excpet for the 1 or 2 that or on TNT or Verses. I can not wait untill I can get my DirecTV back!
doesnt the sportspack blackout non-local games
I am sure dogfish does not live in Denver so that would not help him :confused:
BroncoAV06
02-26-2008, 03:40 PM
I live in New Mexico and I get it with out having to get the sports package, FSNRM and Altitude. I just want to try and help people see what they want!!
Medford Bronco
02-26-2008, 03:59 PM
I live in New Mexico and I get it with out having to get the sports package, FSNRM and Altitude. I just want to try and help people see what they want!!
I agree but in some states the blackout the non-local teams as it has happened to me before.
I like your set up though :salute:
I'm going to call my cable provider, or lack thereof, and see if I can figure out a way to get Altitude since I can't get NHL Center Ice.
dogfish
02-26-2008, 04:12 PM
i actually get altitude with my directv package, but they black out the avs and nuggets games. . . .
dogfish
02-26-2008, 04:14 PM
That's bullshit.
i know, tell me about it. . . . :mad:
Medford Bronco
02-26-2008, 04:15 PM
That's bullshit.
its called the NHL owning the rights to their games so they can sell them on a package similar to what the NFL, NBA and MLB does
it does suck but is a fact of life.
Broncospsycho77
02-26-2008, 04:15 PM
... OMG. I've attended a few Columbus Blue Jackets games here and there to see Foote after he was picked up by the Blue Jackets... and now he's back on my favorite team! This is ridiculously good. Attendance is gonna skyrocket for the Avs; it'll be great, just repace Tanguay with Stastny and Ray Borque with Svatos (not exact positions, but in terms of starpower) and there is a mirror image of the last championship team.
Hope this gives us that extra surge.
Dude, you can't compare Ray Bourque to any of those other names you mentioned. That guy is a legend.
Broncospsycho77
02-26-2008, 04:19 PM
Dude, you can't compare Ray Bourque to any of those other names you mentioned. That guy is a legend.
Not comparing, just showing lineup to lineup in terms of talent. I'm pumped though.
dogfish
02-26-2008, 04:22 PM
Dude, you can't compare Ray Bourque to any of those other names you mentioned. That guy is a legend.
QFT
of course, borque was only an av for a year-and-a-half, and they never had any trouble selling tickets before he came or after he left. . . .
SR--
I responded to you in the "High School Sports in Colorado" thread a few weeks ago but I think it got lost... You said you played in a tourney in the Springs back in '02... I played in a tourney there as well. We ended up tying a team from Houston that was a favorite to win it all... I was gonna ask what team you were playing on back in the day?
SR--
I responded to you in the "High School Sports in Colorado" thread a few weeks ago but I think it got lost... You said you played in a tourney in the Springs back in '02... I played in a tourney there as well. We ended up tying a team from Houston that was a favorite to win it all... I was gonna ask what team you were playing on back in the day?
I played for Mountain Ridge High School. I think it was '02. It may have been '01. We were there for a regional tournament, but we also played in regionals in Dallas one year, Salt Lake City one year, and Albuquerque another. Sometimes I get confused as to which year we played where. I know it was in '02 when we won state.
I mean it's cool and all, but I am not that crazy about it. The Forsberg/Foote moves seems more like a gimmick to get people into seats than anything else. Don't get me wrong, I loved Foote when he was here (I got a jersey of his), but giving up a first round pick for Foote is stupid.
I mean it's cool and all, but I am not that crazy about it. The Forsberg/Foote moves seems more like a gimmick to get people into seats than anything else. Don't get me wrong, I loved Foote when he was here (I got a jersey of his), but giving up a first round pick for Foote is stupid.
It's not stupid. We needed to shore up our D and we needed some grit. With all of the injuries we've had this year, it most certainly won't hurt us by signing Foote. We also got Salei and he's pretty badass. Those moves were low risk with a potential big reward. Foote and Salei have the grit we were missing and if Forsberg can play at 80% of what he used to, he's still better than 90% of the players in the game.
underrated29
02-26-2008, 06:02 PM
A first for foote is a bummer but we need him. Big time.
as far as a mirror image- dont forget ROY- thats the biggest difference betweent he two teams is the goaltending.
I played for my highschool in '03 and went to some tourneys, but none were inthe springs so i doubt i skated against you folk.
It's not stupid. We needed to shore up our D and we needed some grit. With all of the injuries we've had this year, it most certainly won't hurt us by signing Foote. We also got Salei and he's pretty badass. Those moves were low risk with a potential big reward. Foote and Salei have the grit we were missing and if Forsberg can play at 80% of what he used to, he's still better than 90% of the players in the game.
I have no problem with the Salei move.
I do have a problem with the Avs trading a 1st round for Foote...especially when he is either a RFA or FA after this season. I like Foote, I believe that he is a good/tough defensive player. But he is old. It seems like the Avs refuse to learn that you shouldn't get rid of young prospects or draft picks.
I think 80% is a very optimistic view on Forsberg. I disagree that he is still better than 90% of the players. I love Foppa...but age/injuries have caught up to him. I hope he proves me wrong, but I am not getting my hopes up.
I think the Avs should have pushed more for offensive players. While they did need at least one strong defensive player (Salei), I think they need players to put the puck in the net more.
A first for foote is a bummer but we need him. Big time.
as far as a mirror image- dont forget ROY- thats the biggest difference betweent he two teams is the goaltending.
I played for my highschool in '03 and went to some tourneys, but none were inthe springs so i doubt i skated against you folk.
You'd know if you skated against me. :D;)
underrated29
02-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Besides inconsistent play in the net. The avs have solved most of their pressing needs. DEFENSE!
Offense doesnt need as much as one might think, esp. with fopa. Their are only two real needs on offense for the avs and i rank them like this.
1. Person in front of the net to screen the goalie and tip shots-aka ricci, konowalchuk.
2. Power forward- some big ass hard nose guy who just pounds you in the corner and always drives HARD to the net.
Forseberg was that guy, now he is old and hurt, but still has all the skill to control the puck and do his best attribute set up the sweet pass without looking to a wide open man.
If we can get a person to make a camp right in front of their net i promise we will score more goals.
Also i dont like the play calling on the powerplay but thats a whole other subject.
I have no problem with the Salei move.
I do have a problem with the Avs trading a 1st round for Foote...especially when he is either a RFA or FA after this season. I like Foote, I believe that he is a good/tough defensive player. But he is old. It seems like the Avs refuse to learn that you shouldn't get rid of young prospects or draft picks.
I think 80% is a very optimistic view on Forsberg. I disagree that he is still better than 90% of the players. I love Foppa...but age/injuries have caught up to him. I hope he proves me wrong, but I am not getting my hopes up.
I think the Avs should have pushed more for offensive players. While they did need at least one strong defensive player (Salei), I think they need players to put the puck in the net more.
Giving up a first rounder for someone who has been playing in the NHL since 1989 is a little steep, but the Avs are LOADED with young talent between Chris Steward, Nigel Williams, TJ Hensick, and other youngsters that we've drafted that are playing college hockey. The Avs have never really been a team to draft defenseman. Aside from Liles and Foote, I can't really think of any stand-out defensive players that played their first years with the Avs. Sandis Ozolinch (sp?) was good when he played for us, but after he left he flopped. We've always picked up our big name d-men through trades or free agency (Bourque, Blake, etc). I think Salei will do good things for us. He'll match up well with the opposing team's top line while Clarke is out with his separated shoulder.
Besides inconsistent play in the net. The avs have solved most of their pressing needs. DEFENSE!
Offense doesnt need as much as one might think, esp. with fopa. Their are only two real needs on offense for the avs and i rank them like this.
1. Person in front of the net to screen the goalie and tip shots-aka ricci, konowalchuk.
2. Power forward- some big ass hard nose guy who just pounds you in the corner and always drives HARD to the net.
Forseberg was that guy, now he is old and hurt, but still has all the skill to control the puck and do his best attribute set up the sweet pass without looking to a wide open man.
If we can get a person to make a camp right in front of their net i promise we will score more goals.
Also i dont like the play calling on the powerplay but thats a whole other subject.
Our two power forwards that call in front of the net home are Smyth and Bruno and they're both awesome at it.
Theo has really stepped up his play over the past couple of months and with all of the good things my dad has told me and the good things I've read, I really think he is our guy for the future.
As far as Peter goes, he can also play on the wing. He's tried it with CO before and wasn't as productive, but he takes significantly less abuse. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him on a line centered by Stats with Hejduk on the opposite wing. That would probably bump Svatos down to the third line with Arnasson and Bruno (assuming the first line would be Sakic, Smyth, Wolski...you could substitute Wolski and Svatos, but one of them will have to go back down to the third line) and Hensick back to the minors, but that's fine with me.
We're loaded at the forward position. I don't necessarily like being so heavy, but it's a good problem to have.
underrated29
02-26-2008, 06:37 PM
Our two power forwards that call in front of the net home are Smyth and Bruno and they're both awesome at it.
Theo has really stepped up his play over the past couple of months and with all of the good things my dad has told me and the good things I've read, I really think he is our guy for the future.
As far as Peter goes, he can also play on the wing. He's tried it with CO before and wasn't as productive, but he takes significantly less abuse. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him on a line centered by Stats with Hejduk on the opposite wing. That would probably bump Svatos down to the third line with Arnasson and Bruno (assuming the first line would be Sakic, Smyth, Wolski...you could substitute Wolski and Svatos, but one of them will have to go back down to the third line) and Hensick back to the minors, but that's fine with me.
We're loaded at the forward position. I don't necessarily like being so heavy, but it's a good problem to have.
Yep i agree. However Bruno letely in our system has been more behind the net guy. But thats our system. Smyth is still good and no doubt a net crasher, but once again our system imo doesnt quite play to his strenghts.
We seem to be running a lot of corner, dot ,slot on our PP. Which is cool, but i would prefer we moved to more of a corner,net, high slot.
With peter back on the team and brunos, symth,wolskis ability to control the puck no matter who is on them i think that system would work better and open things up a bit more. And of course allow more goals and tips in front. But thats me and i am no coach. But if i could tell Q 1 thing that would be it.
BroncoAV06
02-26-2008, 06:59 PM
Jose has played well in net lately, I think getting solid defense in front is huge and actually getting offense back and healthy will make a huge difference.
I still think that people do not get the NHL draft, they are viewing it as a NFL 1st round pick, big difference folks. SR and I have said it Avs have some talent depth at the moment so a 1st for Foote was a move to push this team towards the post season this year.
Mike, my son loves your avatar. He was just sitting on my lap while I was reading this page and he kept pointing to it and mumbling some nonsense.
Yep i agree. However Bruno letely in our system has been more behind the net guy. But thats our system. Smyth is still good and no doubt a net crasher, but once again our system imo doesnt quite play to his strenghts.
We seem to be running a lot of corner, dot ,slot on our PP. Which is cool, but i would prefer we moved to more of a corner,net, high slot.
With peter back on the team and brunos, symth,wolskis ability to control the puck no matter who is on them i think that system would work better and open things up a bit more. And of course allow more goals and tips in front. But thats me and i am no coach. But if i could tell Q 1 thing that would be it.
If our first powerplay unit could be Liles and Salei on the points (Salei has a hell of a shot and a big time mean streak) with Peter, Joe, and Hejduk, the other team's coach will be sweating bullets just like they used to even if Peter is only 80%.
underrated29
02-26-2008, 07:24 PM
If our first powerplay unit could be Liles and Salei on the points (Salei has a hell of a shot and a big time mean streak) with Peter, Joe, and Hejduk, the other team's coach will be sweating bullets just like they used to even if Peter is only 80%.
IM ALREADY GETTING THE CHILLS!
dogfish
02-26-2008, 07:41 PM
Our two power forwards that call in front of the net home are Smyth and Bruno and they're both awesome at it.
smyth = total cherrypicker
If our first powerplay unit could be Liles and Salei on the points (Salei has a hell of a shot and a big time mean streak) with Peter, Joe, and Hejduk, the other team's coach will be sweating bullets just like they used to even if Peter is only 80%.
do they not play sakic at the point on the PP anymore?
Mike, my son loves your avatar. He was just sitting on my lap while I was reading this page and he kept pointing to it and mumbling some nonsense.
He must be a good ol red blooded American boy. :beer:
I bet it is really nice to get back home to him. I go TDY for 2 weeks and start missing my little girl. I can't imagine what it would be like to deploy. Glad to hear you got back safe.
smyth = total cherrypicker
do they not play sakic at the point on the PP anymore?
Both Sakic and Smyth have been hurt. Injuries more than anything have hurt the Avs this year.
smyth = total cherrypicker
do they not play sakic at the point on the PP anymore?
Smyth is a winger, so his job on defense is to cover the opposing team's defense when they're in the offensive zone. If he can see the play coming out of the defensive zone and he leads out, it's not cherry picking. If he's out hanging around at the center ice line while the play is down in the corner, he's cherry picking and I've never seen him do that.
And yes, when Sakic is healthy he plays the point on the PP.
AlWilsonizKING
02-26-2008, 10:01 PM
:D
It was great to see Footer walk from the locker room to the bench....when he got there, the first couple of players didn't notice and had did the double take when they looked at him.....he haden't even met any of the other players yet, and there he is on the bench getting prepared to go in.....hahalolhahalolhaha
Go Av's!!!:salute:
PEACE!!!
:D
It was great to see Footer walk from the locker room to the bench....when he got there, the first couple of players didn't notice and had did the double take when they looked at him.....he haden't even met any of the other players yet, and there he is on the bench getting prepared to go in.....hahalolhahalolhaha
Go Av's!!!:salute:
PEACE!!!
My dad called me and told me that when it was happening. I was shocked, to say the least. Hopefully he can make an impact right away. I'll bet he's happy to have that big "A" on his chest again.
Hejduk's the man... Theodore has been on tonight-- if it weren't for that bad luck goal off Hannan, we'd be up.
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