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PatricktheDookie
02-25-2008, 03:11 PM
We've heard rumors about several teams looking into Javon, and here's another, courtesy of profootballtalk.com.


'BOYS EYEING JAVON?

So Cowboys owner Jerry Jones wants to put some "wow" into the offense? One possibility we're hearing about is by acquiring receiver Javon Walker from the Broncos.

A league source tells us that the Cowboys are working on a deal that would bring Walker to Big D. The problem, however, is Walker's knee. He tore an ACL during the first game of the 2005 regular-season, and he missed plenty of time in 2007, his second year in Denver, due to lingering problems with it.

There's a chance, said the source, that Walker wouldn't pass a physical.

If Walker were to land in Dallas, however, things could get interesting. Said the source: "Can you picture [Terrell] Owens' reaction? Walker has pissed people off in Green Bay and Denver because he wants the ball so much. They are supposedly friends so I'm sure they think it could work but it would be fun to watch."

Owens and Walker made plenty of headlines three years ago in their efforts to get new contracts. Both threatened to hold out and, in the end, both caved.

Walker was traded to Denver in April 2006, and received the new contract he craved. After a solid first season with the Broncos, the team picked up an option for 2007. In hindsight, it's yet another poor decision from Denver's de facto G.M.

If we can ignore the underhanded swipe at Shanahan for a moment, we should look at this as good news for Denver. Multiple teams are interested in Javon, which increases the possibility of a bidding war. Maybe we'll get a 4th instead of a 5th. =)

OB
02-25-2008, 03:12 PM
Walker and TO - Add Randy Moss and we can see who bitches the most about getting the ball the least :coffee:

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:13 PM
I'm surprised that Dallas is looking for another receiver. I think they have pretty good ones to go along with one of the best tight ends in the league.

G_Money
02-25-2008, 03:23 PM
Jones wants PLENTY of offense for when he opens the new stadium next year, and Terry Glenn might be done. They could use another wide.

Another wide and another RB I think is what Jerry's going for. He wants his young QB to have the most weapons possible.

Can't fault that.

~G

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:24 PM
It probably wasn't smart to get rid of your pro bowl left tackle then either. I think Cowboys go offensive line in the 1st round.

G_Money
02-25-2008, 03:26 PM
All the more reason to add another weapon in FA (or the trade market) then.

~G

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:27 PM
Give us Bobby Carpenter and your two first round picks and we will give you Walker and our 1st round pick.

MOtorboat
02-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Give us Bobby Carpenter and your two first round picks and we will give you Walker and our 1st round pick.

Something tells me that's not happening. :elefant:

turftoad
02-25-2008, 03:29 PM
I'm surprised that Dallas is looking for another receiver. I think they have pretty good ones to go along with one of the best tight ends in the league.

Word is that they knew they would be looking. Glenn is old...... so is TO. Crayton looks OK but may not be starting material they want.

turftoad
02-25-2008, 03:30 PM
Give us Bobby Carpenter and your two first round picks and we will give you Walker and our 1st round pick.

We could only hope.

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 03:35 PM
Having three teams interested in Walker, especially two division rivals and three NFC teams might help the price go up. Denver will probably find a trade for him. Goodness, I hope so.

I don't know if it was posted here, but the Bengals and Saints (according to sources from Draft Daddy) are very interested in Ian Gold.

Thanks for this news!

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 03:40 PM
Having three teams interested in Walker, especially two division rivals and three NFC teams might help the price go up. Denver will probably find a trade for him. Goodness, I hope so.

I don't know if it was posted here, but the Bengals and Saints (according to sources from Draft Daddy) are very interested in Ian Gold.

Thanks for this news!

They can have Gold for a 6th round pick...........And Walker for a 3rd.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:44 PM
So if we can get Robertson from the Jets or Rogers from the Lions, that takes care of our DT problem, then if we can get Carpenter from Dallas that would help us at linebacker. Sign WR Bryant Johnson and S Mideau Williams. We would be able to draft O-line, and Jonathan Stewart in the Draft.

Doesn't sound bad.

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 03:46 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that we can't be overly greedy in situation.

Denver has absolutely no leverage in any trade scenario involving Walker. The other team(s) interested in him, who has the choice and the ability to put him through a physical have all the chips on the table. The only chip we have is an injured, malconent receiver. Granted, when he's healthy and plays - he plays pretty well. He's a top receiver when healthy, but that's when he is - and over his short career in the NFL; he's had some serious knee problems.

Any pick we get from any team will likely be conditional in next year's draft based on 2008 season performance. Denver will not get a top three round pick for this guy; and I doubt a fourth is even in order. That'd be grand theft if we were able to get a fourth for him.

As far as Ian goes, I can see why the Saints and Bengals are interested in him. Not only that; but they're close on draft slots and they can dictate how each other pick in the draft. They both have similar needs.

G_Money
02-25-2008, 03:49 PM
For conditional we might be able to swing a 4th/6th based on production. I could see us getting a 4th for Javon.

But I agree, don't get greedy. The important thing is to get the pick and get him off the team.

Same with Gold. Whatever somebody wants to give me for him is fine, because we should be cutting him anyway. So a 7th is better than the nothing I get for cutting him.

We're on a timetable for those roster bonuses, so let's make it snappy.

~G

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 03:50 PM
If TO and Walker are on the same team...I feel bad for Romo.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 03:51 PM
So if we can get Robertson from the Jets or Rogers from the Lions, that takes care of our DT problem, then if we can get Carpenter from Dallas that would help us at linebacker. Sign WR Bryant Johnson and S Mideau Williams. We would be able to draft O-line, and Jonathan Stewart in the Draft.

Doesn't sound bad.


O-line yes............But Boss, we don't need a Runningback. .....Now write that 100 times.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:51 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed that some how a deal gets done period, but i'm hoping Bobby Carpenter is involved in this deal. Hell throw in Foxworth and Walker and get us a pick and Carpenter. Cowboys need a CB too.

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 03:53 PM
Jones doesn't have to trade for Walker. He can wait and see if Walker gets released and then offer him a better contract and a better team to play for than TB and CIN can. If he misses out, he can always draft a guy and move Crayton into the starting line-up.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 03:54 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed that some how a deal gets done period, but i'm hoping Bobby Carpenter is involved in this deal. Hell throw in Foxworth and Walker and get us a pick and Carpenter. Cowboys need a CB too.


Carpenter player strongside too I believe.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 03:54 PM
O-line yes............But Boss, we don't need a Runningback. .....Now write that 100 times.

Can someone tell me the age usually associated with RB's when they start the decline process.... especially runningbacks injury prone or that take a lot of hits. Then I might change my status.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Jones doesn't have to trade for Walker. He can wait and see if Walker gets released and then offer him a better contract and a better team to play for than TB and CIN can. If he misses out, he can always draft a guy and move Crayton into the starting line-up.

You and your can always.................I say, if they wait on this deal, they may be forced to go with what they've got and that's not as good as what they COULD have. ...............there, how's THAT for confussion.

Rex
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
If TO and Walker are on the same team...I feel bad for Romo.

He has Jessica Simpson at home. I dont feel bad for him.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Can someone tell me the age usually associated with RB's when they start the decline process.... especially runningbacks injury prone or that take a lot of hits. Then I might change my status.

Selvin Young is 24................Hall is 23 or 24.............Henry can play a few more years then we draft Knowshon Moreno.

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 03:57 PM
He has Jessica Simpson at home. I dont feel bad for him.

Ever listened to her talk?

Rex
02-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Ever listened to her talk?

I could deal with that. I am more interested in her money and her "assets".

underrated29
02-25-2008, 04:02 PM
isnt crayton an fa? I think he is. Who knows maybe he wont even be with the club next year. If not i think he is an rfa- even then there is no gurantee he remains.

If the boys really want him, they just might have to take him.

OB
02-25-2008, 04:03 PM
Ever listened to her talk?

I heard a rumor that she is actually very smart and just played up the dumb blond thing for the TV - but I havent seen her caught off guard like I have brittany - now there is one dumb inbred hillbilly bitch - her real accent is so backwoods hillbilly it makes me sick she made it as far as she did (only to crash and burn - cuz she is too dumb to handle it all)

Dont know if thats true or not - but IMO I dont find her as fake as brittany -

But Romo - please - that guy is such a dufus - for christs sake - if he was her local bag boy at the quickie mart - she wouldnt look twice at him - and lets face it - even if she was a bag girl at a quickie mart - EVERY man would look at least twice - and it would prolly be the busiest quickie mart around

Rick
02-25-2008, 04:04 PM
Ever listened to her talk?

Plan on spending your time talking?

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:04 PM
Selvin Young is 24................Hall is 23 or 24.............Henry can play a few more years then we draft Knowshon Moreno.

Sorry HD.... I'm not expecting a lot out of Young and Hall... they are good back up runningbacks but I don't look at them as every down starters and Henry hasn't shown he can stay healthy long enough to carry the load himself, plus he will be 30, the age NFL runningback, usually start to decline. As for Mike Bell, it is rumored we are trading him to Atlanta for a 7th rounder.

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 04:04 PM
isnt crayton an fa? I think he is. Who knows maybe he wont even be with the club next year. If not i think he is an rfa- even then there is no gurantee he remains.

If the boys really want him, they just might have to take him.

He would have been an FA, but they signed him before the season ended

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:04 PM
isnt crayton an fa? I think he is. Who knows maybe he wont even be with the club next year. If not i think he is an rfa- even then there is no gurantee he remains.

If the boys really want him, they just might have to take him.

The Cowboys already resigned him to a nice contract.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Sorry HD.... I'm not expecting a lot out of Young and Hall... they are good back up runningbacks but I don't look at them as every down starters and Henry hasn't shown he can stay healthy long enough to carry the load himself, plus he will be 30, the age NFL runningback, usually start to decline. As for Mike Bell, it is rumored we are trading him to Atlanta for a 7th rounder.

You and I are on complete opposite sides on this one..............Selvin Young is without a doubt capable of carrying the fulltime load.............22 touches a game, no problem.............That's 18 carries, 4 receptions per game...............More is neccesary.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:09 PM
Sorry HD.... I'm not expecting a lot out of Young and Hall... they are good back up runningbacks but I don't look at them as every down starters and Henry hasn't shown he can stay healthy long enough to carry the load himself, plus he will be 30, the age NFL runningback, usually start to decline. As for Mike Bell, it is rumored we are trading him to Atlanta for a 7th rounder.


Good...........trade Bell for a 7th.............Gold for a 7th and Walker for a 4th............We'll find your Runningback with one of those three picks Boss.............We always do. No use spending a #1 pick on a back.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:11 PM
You and I are on complete opposite sides on this one..............Selvin Young is without a doubt capable of carrying the fulltime load.............22 touches a game, no problem.............That's 18 carries, 4 receptions per game...............More is neccesary.

What evidence do you have that he can carry the load.... he hasn't been able to do it his entire career, college and NFL. He is no doubt talented, but he is far from being considered a guy that can carry the load.

It is one thing to learn how to catch a football or correct fumbling issues, but it is another to all the sudden become a durable runningback.

MHCBill
02-25-2008, 04:11 PM
If anyone missed it... Jonathan Stewart is a STUD!

MHCBill
02-25-2008, 04:12 PM
Cutler, and Marshall, and Stewart oh my...

Cutler, and Marshall, and Stewart oh my...

Cutler, and Marshall, and Stewart oh my...

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:13 PM
What evidence do you have that he can carry the load.... he hasn't been able to do it his entire career, college and NFL. He is no doubt talented, but he is far from being considered a guy that can carry the load.

It is one thing to learn how to catch a football or correct fumbling issues, but it is another to all the sudden become a durable runningback.

A feeling I have when I see film of him Boss.............He can do it............I'll bet MB's life on it.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:13 PM
If anyone missed it... Jonathan Stewart is a STUD!

You forgot to mention that he benches like a full back, runs a 4.4 forty, awesome hands, return specialist, and he only weighs in at 235 pounds of pure man muscle!

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:13 PM
What evidence do you have that he can carry the load.... he hasn't been able to do it his entire career, college and NFL. He is no doubt talented, but he is far from being considered a guy that can carry the load.

It is one thing to learn how to catch a football or correct fumbling issues, but it is another to all the sudden become a durable runningback.

I said the same thing about Marshall in 2006..................All I heard was let's wait and see..............Well, go ahead and wait..............I'll say it right now.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:16 PM
I said the same thing about Marshall in 2006..................All I heard was let's wait and see..............Well, go ahead and wait..............I'll say it right now.

We need a power back to help out Young. I'm not looking forward to Young getting the bulk of the carries when Henry goes down. Plus I'm thinking more about the future with Marshall, Scheffler, and Cutler.

Elway - Cutler
Sharpe - Scheffler
Rod- Marshall
T.D. - Stewart?

MHCBill
02-25-2008, 04:16 PM
If we get Carpenter and either one of Rogers or Robertson at DT then we must go for Stewart at #12.

Get the best available LB'er in round two...

Woodyard in round four...

Best WR or OT with our second fourth round selection...

And then go from there.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:17 PM
If we get Carpenter and either one of Rogers or Robertson at DT then we must go for Stewart at #12.

Get the best available LB'er in round two...

Woodyard in round four...

Best WR or OT with our second fourth round selection...

And then go from there.

We are on the same page... what is wrong with everyone else Bill?

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 04:19 PM
Please, no Bobby Carpenter. Just get picks instead of trading for other underachieving players who either were in the dog house or not good scheme fits. No.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:20 PM
Please, no Bobby Carpenter. Just get picks instead of trading for other underachieving players who either were in the dog house or not good scheme fits. No.


I think Dream is on the draft Stewart bandwagon too.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:21 PM
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r166/AFCaveman/PG_Oregon_SI.jpg

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 04:22 PM
I always like listening to people that don't really pay attention and what they have to say. My Dad is a football fan, but he couldn't name most of the players that do not play for PSU (his alma mater). So when he calls me and asks if I ever saw this RB from Oregon and goes on about how awesome he is, I find it entertaining and obvious that the kid is the real deal.

lex
02-25-2008, 04:23 PM
You forgot to mention that he benches like a full back, runs a 4.4 forty, awesome hands, return specialist, and he only weighs in at 235 pounds of pure man muscle!

creepy

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:24 PM
creepy

I go all out on my man crush! Don't ruin my moment. :beer:

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:26 PM
I always like listening to people that don't really pay attention and what they have to say. My Dad is a football fan, but he couldn't name most of the players that do not play for PSU (his alma mater). So when he calls me and asks if I ever saw this RB from Oregon and goes on about how awesome he is, I find it entertaining and obvious that the kid is the real deal.

Alright! Coach is on the Stewart Bandwagon....

We will have our Stewart Club meeting at 7:00 p.m. eastern time... Don't be late.. and everyone bring at least one picture of Stewart with you to share with the rest of the members.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:27 PM
We need a power back to help out Young. I'm not looking forward to Young getting the bulk of the carries when Henry goes down. Plus I'm thinking more about the future with Marshall, Scheffler, and Cutler.

Elway - Cutler
Sharpe - Scheffler
Rod- Marshall
T.D. - Stewart?


I like powerbacks too..............but NOT with our #1 pick.

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 04:29 PM
I like powerbacks too..............but NOT with our #1 pick.

If we could swing a deal for a DT and maybe sign a LT...who else would you take that is a significant need and a better prospect than Stewart?

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:29 PM
I like powerbacks too..............but NOT with our #1 pick.

Darn it HD! We need you in the fan club... go to ESPN and Youtube... watch as many Stewart videos as you can... look at his stats... and come back here with a positive attitude.:salute:

MHCBill
02-25-2008, 04:31 PM
We are on the same page... what is wrong with everyone else Bill?
For the sake of argument I think they all sniff glue.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:33 PM
Darn it HD! We need you in the fan club... go to ESPN and Youtube... watch as many Stewart videos as you can... look at his stats... and come back here with a positive attitude.:salute:

# 12 is still to high for Stewart..............Trade back to 20 and see what happens then............if we did happen to get a DT and Linebacker before the draft.

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 04:33 PM
I think Dream is on the draft Stewart bandwagon too.

I'm for a lot of players at #12; I just want someone who can make an impact right away and help us win not only now, but in the future. Stewart is an option there.

As far as Carpenter goes, I don't see many Dallas games - but I thought he was a reach in the first round to begin with, and then he sort of fell out of favor in Dallas, for whatever reason. I'd project him as a SAM in a 4-3; but I'd prefer not to trade player for player. There's so much talent in this draft, I'd rather get a pick. Even though Carpenter can probably help us now, I'd still like a pick. That's me though.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Darn it HD! We need you in the fan club... go to ESPN and Youtube... watch as many Stewart videos as you can... look at his stats... and come back here with a positive attitude.:salute:

I like Mendenhall alot better anyway. He's 225 himself.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:36 PM
I like Mendenhall alot better anyway. He's 225 himself.

If you get your one year wonder at 12 I'll be happy for you... as long as we get a Star runningback i'm happy because right now we don't have a star back on our team. I would rather Stewart.. but I won't cry with Mendenhall.

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 04:37 PM
For the sake of argument I think they all sniff glue.

Uh, coming from the person who has Carpenter slated as an ILB in a 4-3 scheme, when he was clearly an OLB fit for that scheme coming out of Ohio State.

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 04:38 PM
Stewart is gone before 20.

lex
02-25-2008, 04:39 PM
I like Mendenhall alot better anyway. He's 225 himself.

Yeah, he did only two less bench reps but had the fastest 20 cone drill. Who would have thought a guy 225 would have the fastest conedrill? Before you might have said Mendenhall is very strong in all areas but not the best in one...not true anymore. Thats 225 guy who is fast, strong and nimble.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, he did only two less bench reps but had the fastest 20 cone drill. Who would have thought a guy 225 would have the fastest conedrill? Before you might have said Mendenhall is very strong in all areas but not the best in one...not true anymore. Thats 225 guy who is fast, strong and nimble.

The dude is a tank! He and Stewart hold the most value as the 12th overall pick..... No more hearing about L.T. and Larry Johnson being the best backs in the AFC West! Time for a change.... Bring in a stud!

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, he did only two less bench reps but had the fastest 20 cone drill. Who would have thought a guy 225 would have the fastest conedrill? Before you might have said Mendenhall is very strong in all areas but not the best in one...not true anymore. Thats 225 guy who is fast, strong and nimble.


BOSS................BOSS? ( YELLING WITH MY HANDS CUPPED TO THE SIDES OF MY MOUTH) ....................BOSS, are you hearing this....................Mendenhall would be a much better fit for our zone blocking.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:42 PM
The dude is a tank! He and Stewart hold the most value as the 12th overall pick..... No more hearing about L.T. and Larry Johnson being the best backs in the AFC West! Time for a change.... Bring in a stud!


Okay...............I'm agreeing drafting Mendenhall.......IF, we already have solved our DT and Linebacking problems.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:43 PM
BOSS................BOSS? ( YELLING WITH MY HANDS CUPPED TO THE SIDES OF MY MOUTH) ....................BOSS, are you hearing this....................Mendenhall would be a much better fit for our zone blocking.


Did I not make it clear when I said,,, Mendenhall or Stewart? I really don't care... just get the best VALUE for the 12th overall pick! The highest pick Denver has had in quite sometime.

It's all about value.

MHCBill
02-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Uh, coming from the person who has Carpenter slated as an ILB in a 4-3 scheme, when he was clearly an OLB fit for that scheme coming out of Ohio State.It was sortof a joke.

Anyway, at 260lbs. I think we can give him a shot at MLB. jmo If that's okay with you?

CoachChaz
02-25-2008, 04:43 PM
I guess we have smack HD around a little to help him understand that Stewart is the better back.

Requiem / The Dagda
02-25-2008, 04:46 PM
It was sortof a joke.

Anyway, at 260lbs. I think we can give him a shot at MLB. jmo If that's okay with you?

No, because it's clear that he's best suited for a 4-3 strong side linebacker. He's a SAM in the NFL in a 4-3.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:48 PM
Did I not make it clear when I said,,, Mendenhall or Stewart? I really don't care... just get the best VALUE for the 12th overall pick! The highest pick Denver has had in quite sometime.

It's all about value.

What do we do with four backs though Boss? Hall would be the odd man out, and he's not a bad back to have on the roster. ...............Now, if we traded Henry...............Well, now you've got something.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:49 PM
Which guy would you take?

1 year wonder resume
4.45 forty
225 lbs
26 reps of 225
33.5" vertical
10" broad jump

or

exerience runningback
kick return specialist
235 lbs
4.48 forty
28 reps of 225
36.5" vertical
10'8" broad jump

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 04:51 PM
What do we do with four backs though Boss? Hall would be the odd man out, and he's not a bad back to have on the roster. ...............Now, if we traded Henry...............Well, now you've got something.

Henry's contract allows us to cut him now, plus he will be 31 next year. Young and Hall make practically nothing and the way our backs are always injured, having a 4th back isn't a bad idea. Especially when a guy like Stewart and Hall can both play special teams.

HolyDiver
02-25-2008, 04:53 PM
Which guy would you take?

1 year wonder resume
4.45 forty
225 lbs
26 reps of 225
33.5" vertical
10" broad jump

or

exerience runningback
kick return specialist
235 lbs
4.48 forty
28 reps of 225
36.5" vertical
10'8" broad jump

The one year wonder.

JONtheBRONCO
02-25-2008, 04:56 PM
What were TD's combine numbers, college stats, and 40 yard dash time? What did the offensive line look like when he ran behind the line of the Denver Broncos? I know he was a gem, but... I thought I'd play the devil's advocate. :)

Rex
02-25-2008, 04:59 PM
Which guy would you take?

1 year wonder resume
4.45 forty
225 lbs
26 reps of 225
33.5" vertical
10" broad jump

or

exerience runningback
kick return specialist
235 lbs
4.48 forty
28 reps of 225
36.5" vertical
10'8" broad jump

You get drunk on combine numbers.

tubby
02-25-2008, 05:03 PM
What were TD's combine numbers, college stats, and 40 yard dash time? What did the offensive line look like when he ran behind the line of the Denver Broncos? I know he was a gem, but... I thought I'd play the devil's advocate. :)

Exactly. Maybe we should take a tackle and a guard and just roll with the Hoss!

turftoad
02-25-2008, 05:07 PM
If we could swing a deal for a DT and maybe sign a LT...who else would you take that is a significant need and a better prospect than Stewart?

Mendenhall !!

lex
02-25-2008, 05:11 PM
Which guy would you take?

1 year wonder resume
4.45 forty
225 lbs
26 reps of 225
33.5" vertical
10" broad jump

or

exerience runningback
kick return specialist
235 lbs
4.48 forty
28 reps of 225
36.5" vertical
10'8" broad jump

Stewart is an outstanding prospect but Mendenhall is stronger than Stewart is nimble. Mendenhall's not as strong as Stewart but he's easily strong enough. But what I like is his nimbleness. It not only allows him to execute better cuts (which is a big advantage in our system) but it also allows him to better avoid big hits.

Plus, one thing Ive seen you comment on is Stewarts speed being more impressive considering he's heavier. OK, but its not like in a game, theyre going to give Stewart a head start because he's 10 lbs heavier. Either Stewart is fast enough to outrun the other fast guys or he isnt. Id rather have the guy who has the best chance to take it all the way if he breaks it out in the open. Theres no size handicap to help a RB in that situation.

shank
02-25-2008, 05:11 PM
am i the only one tired of stewart/mendenhall debate?

is there any doubt that either one would do great things here?

by now everyone knows who you prefer, this thread is about javon walker and the cowboys...


and ON that subject, i don't care where he goes if he leaves, i am just happy to hear that there are many teams interested.

lex
02-25-2008, 05:15 PM
am i the only one tired of stewart/mendenhall debate?

is there any doubt that either one would do great things here?

by now everyone knows who you prefer, this thread is about javon walker and the cowboys...


and ON that subject, i don't care where he goes if he leaves, i am just happy to hear that there are many teams interested.

Mendenhall!!!

shank
02-25-2008, 05:17 PM
Mendenhall!!!

:deadhorse:

SmilinAssasSin27
02-25-2008, 05:36 PM
So if we can get Robertson from the Jets or Rogers from the Lions, that takes care of our DT problem, then if we can get Carpenter from Dallas that would help us at linebacker. Sign WR Bryant Johnson and S Mideau Williams. We would be able to draft O-line, and Jonathan Stewart in the Draft.

Doesn't sound bad.


or Derrick Harvey...his weigh in at 291 has me drooling all over thsi dude.

SmilinAssasSin27
02-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Henry's contract allows us to cut him now, plus he will be 31 next year. Young and Hall make practically nothing and the way our backs are always injured, having a 4th back isn't a bad idea. Especially when a guy like Stewart and Hall can both play special teams.

Henry's not getting cut...I'm sure there is some sort of clause in there since he did agree to renegotiate. Sorry to break it to ya...henry is a Bronco.

shank
02-25-2008, 05:39 PM
or Derrick Harvey...his weigh in at 291 has me drooling all over thsi dude.

misprint. he weighed in at 271.

SmilinAssasSin27
02-25-2008, 05:42 PM
misprint. he weighed in at 271.

NFL Network has him at 291 every time they reference him. On multiple screens in different situations. We sure 271 is correct?

shank
02-25-2008, 05:42 PM
Henry's not getting cut...I'm sure there is some sort of clause in there since he did agree to renegotiate. Sorry to break it to ya...henry is a Bronco.

but he only makes 1million in base salary, so he's cheap even sitting on the bench.

his trade value is probably very high with the small contract as well.

(although i don't like henry[as a person], i would be pretty upset if we traded him, as he has expressed his desire to be a bronco and to make up for last season, and we knew what he wanted when we got him to renegotiate..)

underrated29
02-25-2008, 05:57 PM
No but travis could be traded! But i am a big travis supporter. I would love stewart though.

Really if we dont get any of the big 3, We need to get alley braussard III-

His name is tough and he is a monster, and would dominate as long as he can get over the mental aspect of his knee that he hurt a while back. It supposedly takes 2 years to come back from things like that- so he should be good to go this year for whoever gets him- i hope its us.

as for javon i want him here, but if he has to go then lets get any and all we can for him and hopefully not all his salary.

shank
02-25-2008, 06:06 PM
No but travis could be traded! But i am a big travis supporter. I would love stewart though.

Really if we dont get any of the big 3, We need to get alley braussard III-

His name is tough and he is a monster, and would dominate as long as he can get over the mental aspect of his knee that he hurt a while back. It supposedly takes 2 years to come back from things like that- so he should be good to go this year for whoever gets him- i hope its us.

as for javon i want him here, but if he has to go then lets get any and all we can for him and hopefully not all his salary.
if you thinkalley braussard III is tough you should check out some game tape of Runfast McBreaktackles IV:D

mclark
02-25-2008, 06:41 PM
What about Spears and Carpenter for Walker and Foxworth?

atwater27
02-25-2008, 06:46 PM
This is too exciting for me. I can't handle it.

SmilinAssasSin27
02-25-2008, 06:47 PM
What about Spears and Carpenter for Walker and Foxworth?

Carpenter for Foxxy almost happened...it's not just a random name being thrown out...just an FYI.

mclark
02-25-2008, 06:48 PM
Speed?

Stewart long runs in each game this year:

24
23
88
55
23
17
28
16
33
17
11
21
71

Mendenhall
25
17
50
39
16
32
15
13
30
64
25
17
79

So, who is faster? Who cannot run away from competition?

Average: Stewart 32.8; Mendenhall 32.6.

mclark
02-25-2008, 06:51 PM
Stewart is an outstanding prospect but Mendenhall is stronger than Stewart is nimble. Mendenhall's not as strong as Stewart but he's easily strong enough. But what I like is his nimbleness. It not only allows him to execute better cuts (which is a big advantage in our system) but it also allows him to better avoid big hits.

Plus, one thing Ive seen you comment on is Stewarts speed being more impressive considering he's heavier. OK, but its not like in a game, theyre going to give Stewart a head start because he's 10 lbs heavier. Either Stewart is fast enough to outrun the other fast guys or he isnt. Id rather have the guy who has the best chance to take it all the way if he breaks it out in the open. Theres no size handicap to help a RB in that situation.

Fourth and 1 on the 1 yard line: Stewart or Mendenhall?

shank
02-25-2008, 07:18 PM
Fourth and 1 on the 1 yard line: Stewart or Mendenhall?

Walker to Cowboys now??

http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10357

(not trying to be 'that guy' but i keep seeing new posts in the thread just to be disappointed)

mclark
02-25-2008, 07:21 PM
Walker to Cowboys now??

http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10357

(not trying to be 'that guy' but i keep seeing new posts in the thread just to be disappointed)

Yes, Walker and Foxworth to Dallas for Marcus Spears and Bobby Carpenter.

JONtheBRONCO
02-25-2008, 07:24 PM
im confused

ikillz0mbies
02-25-2008, 07:30 PM
I'm all for Walker going to the Cowboys, but I thought he wants to be number one? He's not going to be with TO. But that's their problem. I'm really interested in what the Broncos will be getting.

As for the Stewart/Mendenhall debate. I've only seen Mendenhall once, that was the bowl game against USC. And for Stewart, being on the West Coast, I've seen A LOT of Ducks games and Dennis Dixon/Stewart blew my mind away every play. I'm a huge fan of Stewart because of his speed, elusiveness, ability to find the hole and cut, and strength. It's pretty hard to find a running back with all those attributes.

So Boss, you got room for one more on the Stewart bandwagon?

shank
02-25-2008, 07:37 PM
im confused

top to bottom
left to right

:beer:

WARHORSE
02-25-2008, 08:13 PM
Both Stewart and Mendenhall are awesome backs. But Mendenhall, at his size and stature, cuts like a scatback, and has some great hands to go with that awesome speed. As we know, that speed at the combine translates onto the field as well, as put on display in their bowl game.

Stewart has taken a little more punishment in college than Mendenhall.

My vote is for Mendenhall.

BOSSHOGG30
02-25-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm all for Walker going to the Cowboys, but I thought he wants to be number one? He's not going to be with TO. But that's their problem. I'm really interested in what the Broncos will be getting.

As for the Stewart/Mendenhall debate. I've only seen Mendenhall once, that was the bowl game against USC. And for Stewart, being on the West Coast, I've seen A LOT of Ducks games and Dennis Dixon/Stewart blew my mind away every play. I'm a huge fan of Stewart because of his speed, elusiveness, ability to find the hole and cut, and strength. It's pretty hard to find a running back with all those attributes.

So Boss, you got room for one more on the Stewart bandwagon?

There is plenty of room on the Stewart Bandwagon..... climb aboard.

SmilinAssasSin27
02-25-2008, 08:38 PM
I love em both, but don't we already have a thread for this?

Broncoschic7
02-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Wow,,If Javon can't seem to play football along side Brandon Marshall ?? how on earth is he going to cope with playing with TO ? Someone do tell ???,,,I'm not sure he'll be happy anywhere playing second fiddle to anyone. JMO