2008 Combine News Thread

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NFL | Albert plans to go through full workout at Combine
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:22:44 -0800

John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Virginia OL Branden Albert said he plans to do the full workout at the NFL Combine. He said some teams have inquired about his ability to play tackle, but he said he feels most comfortable at guard because that has been his primary position previously. He measured in at 6-foot-5 and 309 pounds.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Look at some of the best players on our team and what do they all have in common?

Jay Cutler: Vanderbilt
Travis Henry: Tennessee
Brandon Marshall: UCF
Selvin Young: Texas
Javon Walker: Florida State
Daniel Graham: Colorado
Montrae Holland: Florida State
Tim Crowder: Texas
Elvis Dumervil: Louisville
Marcus Thomas: Florida
Ian Gold: Michigan
D.J. Williams: Miami
Dre Bly: North Carolina
Domonique Foxworth: Maryland

They all played in talented conferences. Let's keep this trend going Broncos! Stay away from the WAC conference please!

[Zweems56]

Look at some of the best players on our team and what do they all have in common?

Jay Cutler: Vanderbilt
Travis Henry: Tennessee
Brandon Marshall: UCF
Selvin Young: Texas
Javon Walker: Florida State
Daniel Graham: Colorado
Montrae Holland: Florida State
Tim Crowder: Texas
Elvis Dumervil: Louisville
Marcus Thomas: Florida
Ian Gold: Michigan
D.J. Williams: Miami
Dre Bly: North Carolina
Domonique Foxworth: Maryland

They all played in talented conferences. Let's keep this trend going Broncos! Stay away from the WAC conference please!

So since you have Dumervil on there, does that mean we can draft Ray Rice for me?

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So since you have Dumervil on there, does that mean we can draft Ray Rice for me?

What does that mean? Big East or USA conference? I think I lean more towards the Big East. USA conference isn't horrible like the WAC, but it's pretty close.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Draft where the talent is at... that is all i'm saying... The real talent..... doesn't play in the WAC conference.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Michigan T Jake Long was measured at 6-7, 313 pounds at the NFL combine.

It's 18 pounds less than what he was listed at in college, but Long probably just slimmed down for the combine drills. He's expected to be gone within the first hour of the draft.
Source: espn.com

[CoachChaz]

Draft where the talent is at... that is all i'm saying... The real talent..... doesn't play in the WAC conference.

Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't you lobbying for Marcus McCauley last year?

[BOSSHOGG30]

Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't you lobbying for Marcus McCauley last year?

Yeah, and I learned my lesson... he isn't doing so well... Although it is his rookie year last season. Plus, when I say stay away from the WAC conference, I more or less mean in the early rounds.

[CoachChaz]

Yeah, and I learned my lesson... he isn't doing so well... Although it is his rookie year last season. Plus, when I say stay away from the WAC conference, I more or less mean in the early rounds.

Fair enough. I agree. A Logan Mankins, Bernard Berrian type in later rounds would be okay.

[BOSSHOGG30]

i know you will have one or two guys every now and then that do well and live up to the higher picks, but the odds have to be pretty low. If a guy performs well in a tough conference, I like the odds a little better of him performing well in the NFL over a guy who performs well in a weak conference. It's just not the same when they transition to the NFL. The NFL is too fast for them and it takes them awhile to adjust. Sometimes they can't make the adjustment.

[Zweems56]

What does that mean? Big East or USA conference? I think I lean more towards the Big East. USA conference isn't horrible like the WAC, but it's pretty close.

Uhh... that would be Big East.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Uhh... that would be Big East.

yes Zweems... you said since I listed Doom and he played for Louisville... that would be the Big East... you said if you Ray Rice... which is USA conference....Big East is better than Conference USA. I'm not really getting the whole Dumervil comment you made.

[yardog]

LSU's Dorsey won't run 40-yard dash at Combine
LSU DT Glenn Dorsey won't take part in the athletic workouts at the combine, such as the 40-yard dash and the bench press, according to his agent Joel Segal. He'll save those performances for LSU's Pro Day on March 26. But he will be in Indianapolis for medical exams and individual interviews with NFL teams. Dorsey's health is not expected to be an issue, even though he was hampered by a strained knee and back spasms during the Tigers' national championship run. Dorsey's speed and conditioning coach, Tom Shaw, said Dorsey is "doing great" and hasn't missed a workout, except when he left for a week to attend his grandmother's funeral this month. That setback is one of the reasons Dorsey will wait another month to perform his workout drills for NFL scouts. He also got a later start than most college athletes, because of the injuries and LSU's participation in the BCS title game Jan. 7. -- New Orleans Times-Picayune

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LSU's Dorsey won't run 40-yard dash at Combine
LSU DT Glenn Dorsey won't take part in the athletic workouts at the combine, such as the 40-yard dash and the bench press, according to his agent Joel Segal. He'll save those performances for LSU's Pro Day on March 26. But he will be in Indianapolis for medical exams and individual interviews with NFL teams. Dorsey's health is not expected to be an issue, even though he was hampered by a strained knee and back spasms during the Tigers' national championship run. Dorsey's speed and conditioning coach, Tom Shaw, said Dorsey is "doing great" and hasn't missed a workout, except when he left for a week to attend his grandmother's funeral this month. That setback is one of the reasons Dorsey will wait another month to perform his workout drills for NFL scouts. He also got a later start than most college athletes, because of the injuries and LSU's participation in the BCS title game Jan. 7. -- New Orleans Times-Picayune


Lets hope this hurts his stock and Sederick Ellis gets picked before him and Dorsey falls right into range for us to trade up and grab him.

[Bronco9798]

The combine bores me to no end.

[CoachChaz]

The combine bores me to no end.

It's the biggest crock of shyt there is. Pretty much just a fashion show for agents to pimp their players and for players to prove absolutely nothing.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I like it it, at least it gives us something to talk about. Gets boring around here during the offseason

[claymore]

I like it cause thats when the rumors start to fly.

[CoachChaz]

I like it cause thats when the rumors start to fly.

Let's start a rumor that atwater secretly hides illegal immigrants

[Bronco9798]

It's the biggest crock of shyt there is. Pretty much just a fashion show for agents to pimp their players and for players to prove absolutely nothing.

I totally agree. I have never watched it, never will.

[claymore]

Let's start a rumor that atwater secretly hides illegal immigrantsOnly if we sneak a rumor that Obama is a part of Latin Kings. :cool:

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Combine Stars:

Mike Kudla, DE, Ohio State (2006) Skinny: He cranked out 45 reps in the bench press at the 2006 combine, more than anyone since 2000, but he has never played in a regular-season NFL game.

Sedrick Curry, CB, Texas A&M (2000) Skinny: He finished the three-cone drill in 6.45 seconds, a mark no one has topped in seven subsequent combines, but Curry never played in a regular-season NFL game.

Derek Wake, OLB, Penn State (2005) Skinny: His 45 ½-inch vertical leap ranks second, but he never played in a regular-season NFL game.

Chris McKenzie, CB, Arizona State (2005) Skinny: His 45-inch vertical is tied for third-best. McKenzie also owns the ninth-best 40 time (4.32), but he never started a game and was out of the NFL in 2007.

Anthony Arline, CB, Baylor (2007) Skinny: His 10-yard time (1.46) ranks tied for fifth-best, but he has not appeared in a regular-season game.

Kenny Scott, CB, Georgia Tech (2007) Skinny: He also needed only 1.46 seconds to cover 10 yards, but his next NFL game will be his first.

Trent Gamble, FS, Wyoming (2000) Skinny: His 6.6-second time in the three-cone drill stands tied for ninth. He also needed only 3.9 seconds to finish the 20-yard shuttle, tied for 21st. Gamble started one NFL game in four seasons with the Dolphins.

Jason Hebert, FS, Rice (2002) Skinny: His 20-yard shuttle time (3.86) is tied for 12th-best since 2000. Hebert never played in a regular-season game.

Kendrick Starling, WR, San Jose State (2004) Skinny: He owns the 15th-best time in the 20-yard shuttle (3.88), but no NFL starts. Starling was out of the league in 2007.

Ryan Tolhurst, WR, Richmond (2002) Skinny: He holds the 15th-best time in the 20-yard shuttle (3.88) and the 24th-best time in the three-cone drill (6.65), but Tolhurst never played in a regular-season game.

Ketric Sanford, RB, Houston (2000) Skinny: His three-cone time (6.63) is tied for 17th-best since 2000, but Sanford never played in an NFL game.

Liam Ezekiel, LB, Northeastern (2005) Skinny: He impressed with 36 repetitions of 225 pounds in the bench press, but Ezekiel played in only two NFL games.

Matt Farmer, WR, Air Force (2000) Skinny: His three-cone time (6.63) is tied for the 17th-best at combine since 2000, but Farmer never played in the NFL.

Keith Brown, RB, UCLA (2000) Skinny: His three-cone time (6.64) is tied for 20th, but he never played in the NFL.

Tony Fisher, RB, Notre Dame (2002) Skinny: His 41 ½-inch vertical leap tied for 22nd-best. Fisher started five games, but he is out of the league.

Tim Bulman, DT, Boston College (2005) Skinny: His 35 reps in the bench press are tied for 23rd-best. Bulman has started one game and remains on Houston's roster.

Will Bartholomew, FB, Tennessee (2002) Skinny: His 35 bench-press reps are tied for 23rd, but Bartholomew never played in the NFL.

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NFL | K. Davis weighs in
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:05:06 -0800

During his press conference at the NFL Scouting Combine Thursday, Feb. 21, Michigan State TE Kellen Davis said he measured 6-feet-6 and weighed in at 262 pounds. Davis said he plans to participate in all the events at the combine.

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NFL | Hills weighs in
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:41:58 -0800

During his press conference at the NFL Scouting Combine Thursday, Feb. 21, University of Texas OT Tony Hills (knee, ankle) said he measured 6-feet-5 and weighed in at 301 pounds. Hills said he is at the combine to show teams that he is healthy. Hills plans to attend pro day March 19, where he will participate in events that are workout-related. He has been working out with Denver Broncos DL Tim Crowder and Minnesota Vikings DL Michael Robison, who have shown him what to look for from the defense. Hills' agent is Jordan Roy, from Dallas.

[CoachChaz]

Only if we sneak a rumor that Obama is a part of Latin Kings. :cool:

Go for broke. Make him a member of MS 13

[Lonestar]

The combine bores me to no end.

easy do not attend..

[underrated29]

I like it for

a. the rumors

b. I can actually see the players in action- ie. running cutting etc. That way i can really gauge who is good and not.

I dont realy care about the 40 times all that mcuh or the jumping or anything else. I just need to see the guys live movin around. Because all i have to go off of right now is just someone elses scouting reports.

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Chargers | Dunlap meets with team
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:25:21 -0800

The San Diego Chargers met with Auburn University OT King Dunlap Thursday, Feb. 21. Dunlap was listed as 6-foot-8 and 320 pounds but weighed in at 6-foot-8, 310 pounds. He has reportedly been sick and has lost some weight due to the illness.

[Rex]

The NFL Combine: BossHogg's version of porn.

[CoachChaz]

I went to the combine once with a friend of mine that works for the Giants. Bored me to tears.

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I would love to go to the Combine! do you think you could hook a brother up?!

[Lonestar]

This is voluntary if you do not like it stay out..

While I have not followed college Football like I used to. it give me and I'm sure others information about potential Broncos..

Lets keep the personal stuff out of here this thread is for combine info..

If Y'all want to snipe at each other go to the lounge where my tolerance level will be much higher then it will be in here for straying off topic.

Kapeish?[/B]

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Broncos | Team speaks with Sullivan
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:18:09 -0800

Notre Dame C John Sullivan said during his NFL Scouting Combine interview that he has met with the Denver Broncos.

[Scarface]

So since you have Dumervil on there, does that mean we can draft Ray Rice for me?

Yes, I give Shanny permission to draft him on Day 2.:cool:

[turftoad]

Broncos | Team speaks with Sullivan
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:18:09 -0800

Notre Dame C John Sullivan said during his NFL Scouting Combine interview that he has met with the Denver Broncos.

The Broncos along with about 12 other teams.

[BOSSHOGG30]

The Broncos along with about 12 other teams.

And? This is a Broncos board... I doubt everyone cares about the other 12 teams that talked to him. It is interesting to see who the Broncos are talking with at the combine.

[turftoad]

And? This is a Broncos board... I doubt everyone cares about the other 12 teams that talked to him. It is interesting to see who the Broncos are talking with at the combine.

I agree, wasn't trying to slam you by any means Boss. I apprieciate the news you bring. Just saying that we were not the only team talking to him.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I agree, wasn't trying to slam you by any means Boss. I apprieciate the news you bring. Just saying that we were not the only team talking to him.

k, sorry turf.... My woman hormones kicked in.

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California WR DeSean Jackson measured in at 5'9/169 at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

This is significant. Jackson was listed at 6'0/172 during his Cal days. He still has superior explosiveness to hang his hat on, but teams may not view such a diminutive player as a legitimate outside receiver right away. Expect Jackson to fall at least to the bottom of the first round.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Sullivan would be an interesting pick.

Doesn't surprise me on DeSean.

Thanks BOSS!

[turftoad]

California WR DeSean Jackson measured in at 5'9/169 at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

This is significant. Jackson was listed at 6'0/172 during his Cal days. He still has superior explosiveness to hang his hat on, but teams may not view such a diminutive player as a legitimate outside receiver right away. Expect Jackson to fall at least to the bottom of the first round.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

Smurff watch. I hope we stay away.................. far away.

[mclark]

Yeah, and I learned my lesson... he isn't doing so well... Although it is his rookie year last season. Plus, when I say stay away from the WAC conference, I more or less mean in the early rounds.

Ok, I like that clarification. I remember wanting to draft Chris Cooley a couple years ago, from Utah State. I wish we would have.

I see three Fresno State players on the New England roster. Also Western Kentucky, Cal State Bakersfield, Western Kentucky, Louisiana Lafayette, Sacramento State, Southern Mississippi, Central Florida, Navy, Memphis, Western Illinois.

I agree, generally speaking, that the better players go to the better conferences. But I don't think this means that it necessarily would be a mistake to draft Clady.

A couple years ago Dallas drafted a guy out of Troy State in the first round and he's become a pretty good NFL player, Demarcus Ware. It depends on the person. That same year New England drafted Logan Mankins out of Fresno State in the first round (WAC) -- and he's panned out.

[BOSSHOGG30]

My boy!

NFL | Stewart weighs in at combine
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:27:29 -0800

University of Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart weighed in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine at 5-foot-10, 235 pounds. Stewart works out at API in Tempe, Ariz.

[Rex]

Boss....
Can you give me the current temp, wind direction, and speed immediately outside the RCA dome now?

tia

[BOSSHOGG30]

Boss....
Can you give me the current temp, wind direction, and speed immediately outside the RCA dome now?

tia

It is 27 degrees but feels like 19
wind is blowing NE at 8 mph
81% humidity

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NFL | McFadden weighs in at NFL Scouting Combine
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:17:36 -0800

University of Arkansas RB Darren McFadden weighed in at the NFL Scouting Combine Friday, Feb. 22, at 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds.

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NFL | Choice weighs in at NFL Scouting Combine
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:37:10 -0800

Georgia Tech RB Tashard Choice weighed in at the NFL Scouting Combine Friday, Feb. 22, at 5-foot-10 1/2 and 215 pounds.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Michigan OT Jake Long repped 225 lbs 37 times during Friday's bench press drill, the most among offensive linemen at the Combine.

Long, who measured in at 6'7/313 on Thursday, showed he's been putting in a lot of weight room time recently. He'll likely run the 40 in the low 5s.
Related: Chiefs, Dolphins, Rams

[lex]

NFL | McFadden weighs in at NFL Scouting Combine
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:17:36 -0800

University of Arkansas RB Darren McFadden weighed in at the NFL Scouting Combine Friday, Feb. 22, at 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds.

I wonder how the 1 inch will affect his BMI?

[MHCBill]

Michigan OT Jake Long repped 225 lbs 37 times during Friday's bench press drill, the most among offensive linemen at the Combine.

Long, who measured in at 6'7/313 on Thursday, showed he's been putting in a lot of weight room time recently. He'll likely run the 40 in the low 5s.
Related: Chiefs, Dolphins, Rams

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That's good for us... means someone in the top five takes him.

Hopefully that pushes either Ellis or Dorsey out of the top five.

[shank]

I wonder how the 1 inch will affect his BMI?

twenty seven point eight

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[BOSSHOGG30]

You know Chris Long and Jake Long will be in the top 5. We might be able to trade up to either #3 with Atlanta or #6 with the Jets. Matt Ryan will probably be in the top 5 as well.

[dogfish]

Boss....
Can you give me the current temp, wind direction, and speed immediately outside the RCA dome now?

tia


It is 27 degrees but feels like 19
wind is blowing NE at 8 mph
81% humidity



should've asked him about the wind inside-- trick question to see if he's really on his toes. . . .

[turftoad]

NFL | Choice weighs in at NFL Scouting Combine
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:37:10 -0800

Georgia Tech RB Tashard Choice weighed in at the NFL Scouting Combine Friday, Feb. 22, at 5-foot-10 1/2 and 215 pounds.

This is our guy in the 4th.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Hawaii QB Colt Brennan measured 6'2/207 at Friday's Combine weigh-in.

Finally, something somewhat positive about Brennan. It's still light for a QB, but 22 pounds heavier than what Brennan weighed at the Senior Bowl.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Illinois RB Rashard Mendenhall measured 5'11/225 at Friday's Combine weigh-in.

Very solid. Mendenhall, who came out as a true junior, likely shed some weight to increase his long speed. He'll probably play in the 230s as a pro.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Thanks for the news. . .

Can we seriously stop advocating a trade up for Dorsey or Ellis though?

How many of you actually want to wait from that high of a pick until the fourth round to select again in a really deep draft?

It's just bad business.

[BroncoAV06]

Alot of people think that the bench press has really outlived its welcome, ie not really worth anything. Just wondering what others thought? Definitly do not want to get to excited with the combine which most of us know just good to get body types and times/splits.

Thanks for all the info Boss and others!

[lex]

Alot of people think that the bench press has really outlived its welcome, ie not really worth anything. Just wondering what others thought? Definitly do not want to get to excited with the combine which most of us know just good to get body types and times/splits.

Thanks for all the info Boss and others!


The power clean would be better. Its a better representation of explosion.

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Offensive linemen Bench press results

Name Reps
Long, Jake 37
Zuttah, Jeremy 35
Barton, Kirk 34
Gibson, Mike 31
Nicks, Carl 31
Keith, Brandon 31
Greco, John 30
McGlynn, Mike 30
Murphy, Shawn 29
McDuffie, Chris 29
Pollak, Mike 29

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Tightend Bench results

Name Reps
Stevens, Craig 27
Keller, Dustin 26
Davis, Fred 24
Cottam, Brad 24
Fine, Derek 24
Kapanui, Kolo 23
Barnidge, Gary 22
Davis, Kellen 22
Bishop, Adam 21

[Scarface]

California WR DeSean Jackson measured in at 5'9/169 at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

This is significant. Jackson was listed at 6'0/172 during his Cal days. He still has superior explosiveness to hang his hat on, but teams may not view such a diminutive player as a legitimate outside receiver right away. Expect Jackson to fall at least to the bottom of the first round.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

That dude is a beast!!! :laugh:

[Scarface]

The Broncos along with about 12 other teams.

Everybody talks to everybody. I don't even pay attention to who talked to who.

I did pay attention to Darren McFadden yesterday on NFL Network. He said TD is his favorite RB. He's a Broncos fan and was talking about how he loved watching Elway, Sharpe, and Eddie Mac. Now watch him go to the Raiders.:tsk:

[Scarface]

Ok, I like that clarification. I remember wanting to draft Chris Cooley a couple years ago, from Utah State. I wish we would have.

I see three Fresno State players on the New England roster. Also Western Kentucky, Cal State Bakersfield, Western Kentucky, Louisiana Lafayette, Sacramento State, Southern Mississippi, Central Florida, Navy, Memphis, Western Illinois.

I agree, generally speaking, that the better players go to the better conferences. But I don't think this means that it necessarily would be a mistake to draft Clady.

A couple years ago Dallas drafted a guy out of Troy State in the first round and he's become a pretty good NFL player, Demarcus Ware. It depends on the person. That same year New England drafted Logan Mankins out of Fresno State in the first round (WAC) -- and he's panned out.

Talent is talent. If you have a good scouting department you can find talent in any conference.:beer:

[Lonestar]

Talent is talent. If you have a good scouting department you can find talent in any conference.:beer:


Though it is more likely that the quality NFL players is going to come from the major D-one schools..

Then the next issue is why have we struggled over the years. Sure the last two drafts have as we speak been good but prior to that we had a real dry spell on day one EXCEPT LBs.

[Scarface]

Though it is more likely that the quality NFL players is going to come from the major D-one schools..


That goes without saying. But you don't pass on a talented guy just because he plays for a small conference. Like I said, talent is talent. I'll take Greg Jennings(MAC) over Chad Jackson(SEC) any day.

[BOSSHOGG30]

That goes without saying. But you don't pass on a talented guy just because he plays for a small conference. Like I said, talent is talent. I'll take Greg Jennings(MAC) over Chad Jackson(SEC) any day.

Good one example and everyone knows that you shouldn't take a wide receiver from Florida.... there are other rules of thumb besides the one factor of less talented conferences.

[Lonestar]

That goes without saying. But you don't pass on a talented guy just because he plays for a small conference. Like I said, talent is talent. I'll take Greg Jennings(MAC) over Chad Jackson(SEC) any day.

I do not know these players but far fewer players come out of the obscure conferences than from the major D-1 schools.

Mikey has been known to reach for players to start with why tempt fate..

Why try to beat the odds with every DAFT choices on day one..

He found TD in the sixth and since then thinks he is bullet proof.. which we all know is silly at best.. He thinks he is smarter than every other quality GM and head coach and his superior coaching skills will overcome not getting solid talent form proven programs..

[Scarface]

I do not know these players but far fewer players come out of the obscure conferences than from the major D-1 schools.



No kidding.

[BroncoAV06]

Well thats where it comes down to trusting your scouts as well. Scheff is a good example. If the talent is there teams will see it and pull the tirgger its just that when a player just does not live up to anything that it looks worse when he is not from the SEC, ACC, Big 12.

[shank]

according to nfl network, one of our team's needs is long snapper. blaspheme much?

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Vanderbilt WR Earl Bennett measured 5'11/209 at the Combine weigh-in.

This is shorter than expected, but still fine for a slot receiver, which is what Bennett indicated that he wants to be. Bennett will run his 40 Saturday and would help himself immensely with a time in the 4.4s. He'll also have Jay Cutler throwing to him at his Pro Day, which is quite the advantage.
Source: Denver Post

[Scarface]

Cutler taking care of his boy!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff302/ScarfaceBroncos2007/NFL%20Draft%2008/13d1b.jpg

[turftoad]

Vanderbilt WR Earl Bennett measured 5'11/209 at the Combine weigh-in.

This is shorter than expected, but still fine for a slot receiver, which is what Bennett indicated that he wants to be. Bennett will run his 40 Saturday and would help himself immensely with a time in the 4.4s. He'll also have Jay Cutler throwing to him at his Pro Day, which is quite the advantage.
Source: Denver Post

I'd loved to see him in a Bronco uni. Stokley will be 32 in June. I think he'll be a late second or early third rounder though.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Offensive linemen Bench press results

Name Reps
Long, Jake 37
Zuttah, Jeremy 35
Barton, Kirk 34
Gibson, Mike 31
Nicks, Carl 31
Keith, Brandon 31
Greco, John 30
McGlynn, Mike 30
Murphy, Shawn 29
McDuffie, Chris 29
Pollak, Mike 29


Zuttah really surprised me there. I'd love him to be a pick for us late on day two as a potential option for us in the future. I think he's an OG in the NFL. 30 isn't bad for Greco either. Barton might make a nice tackle selection in the fourth or fifth.

[shank]

Zuttah really surprised me there. I'd love him to be a pick for us late on day two as a potential option for us in the future. I think he's an OG in the NFL. 30 isn't bad for Greco either. Barton might make a nice tackle selection in the fourth or fifth.

zuttah is impressive in what they have shown of the OL. he moves really well and his bench reps speak for themselves. was he a LT in college?

[Requiem / The Dagda]

zuttah is impressive in what they have shown of the OL. he moves really well and his bench reps speak for themselves. was he a LT in college?

He played RT primarily this year, but has had experience at every position besides center. He's sort of like Chris Myers in that respect. Not a master of any position, but can play a whole bunch of them.

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NFL | Highsmith measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:38:43 -0800

Louisiana State LB Ali Highsmith measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-11 and a weight of 230 pounds.

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NFL | Mayo measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:38:22 -0800

University of Tennessee LB Jerod Mayo measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-1 3/4 and a weight of 242 pounds.

[JONtheBRONCO]

NFL | Mayo measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:38:22 -0800

University of Tennessee LB Jerod Mayo measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-1 3/4 and a weight of 242 pounds.

I like it. 2nd rounder?

[BOSSHOGG30]

Ali Highsmith put on some weight... I'm very impressed.

[shank]

holy hell

sedrick ellis weighed in at 309 lbs as opposed to glenn dorsey's 297. didn't expect that.

everything i saw up until now had ellis at 285

[Nomad]

NFL | Highsmith measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:38:43 -0800

Louisiana State LB Ali Highsmith measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-11 and a weight of 230 pounds.

I'm not very impressed with Highsmith. He has made many mental errors in his college career that cost quite a few games, more recently the ARK game. I don't think he'll be a good pro and I'm a LSU homer most times.

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Florida DE Derrick Harvey measured 6'5/291 at Friday's Combine weigh-in.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, but this is way heavier than expected. Harvey was listed in the low 250s in college. It'd be something if he can time well in the 40 and cone drills with the added pounds, but he's probably not playing linebacker at this weight.

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NFL | Connor will do all drills at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:45:12 -0800

Penn State LB Dan Connor said he will take part in all drills at the NFL Scouting Combine.


This is interesting because Penn State players usually don't take part in the combine... usually they do most of the work outs on Penn States Pro Day.

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NFL | Balmer measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:27:36 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports North Carolina DT Kentwan Balmer measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-4 1/2 and a weight of 308 pounds.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I think Ali would be a great fit at WILL for us.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Gholston measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:32:02 -0800

Ohio State DE Vernon Gholston measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-3 and a weight of 266 pounds.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Good Lord on Harvey. He put on 40 pounds? I'm not questioning you BOSS, but maybe that was a misprint? Maybe not. WOW.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Harrison measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:40:49 -0800

Arkansas-Fayetteville DT Marcus Harrison measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-2 3/4 and a weight of 317 pounds.


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NFL | Laws measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:40:31 -0800

Notre Dame DE Trevor Laws measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-3 3/4 and a weight of 304 pounds.


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NFL | C. Long measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:39:51 -0800

University of Virginia DE Christopher Long measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-3 and a weight of 272 pounds.


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NFL | D. Harvey measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:36:33 -0800

University of Florida DE Derrick Harvey measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-4 5/8 and a weight of 291 pounds.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Trevor Laws was also bigger than expected... That is a very good thing for him... He was listed at 6'.... 6'3" in quite the surprise.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Tightend forty times:

John Carlson: 4.98
Brad Cottam: 4.68
Kellen Davis: 4.60
Derek Fine: 4.89
Jermichael Finley: 4.85
Joey Haynos: 4.94
Kolo Kapanui: 5.10
Dustin Keller: 4.54

[BOSSHOGG30]

Brad Cottam really impresses me... Whoever picks him up in the draft is getting one hell of a tightend. For a guy his size to move that well it is just unbelieveable. It would be interesting to see if he would be willing to become an offensive lineman in the future. Reminds me of Matt Lepsis.

[BOSSHOGG30]

http://fflivewire.com/players/PlayersCombine.asp?OrderBy=+ORDER+BY+LastNAme%2C+F irstName%2C+PosNameShort%2C+Team&PlayerName=&pTeamID=99999999&PosNum=99999999&GO=GO%21

Good link for anyone who wants to see stats on the combine.

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NFL | Ankle injury will prevent Rivers from running
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:36:10 -0800

Updating a previous item, Southern California LB Keith Rivers (ankle) will not run at the NFL Scouting Combine because of a sprained ankle. He will bench at the NFL Combine, but will do his running at his Pro Day April 2. He is also represented by Athletes First.

[lex]

Look at some of the best players on our team and what do they all have in common?

Jay Cutler: Vanderbilt
Travis Henry: Tennessee
Brandon Marshall: UCF
Selvin Young: Texas
Javon Walker: Florida State
Daniel Graham: Colorado
Montrae Holland: Florida State
Tim Crowder: Texas
Elvis Dumervil: Louisville
Marcus Thomas: Florida
Ian Gold: Michigan
D.J. Williams: Miami
Dre Bly: North Carolina
Domonique Foxworth: Maryland

They all played in talented conferences. Let's keep this trend going Broncos! Stay away from the WAC conference please!

All but a couple of them played at schools that are located in the south but more precisely the southeast.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Caulcrick measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:21:45 -0800

Michigan State RB Jehuu Caulcrick measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot and a weight of 254 pounds. His agent is Buddy Baker. Caulcrick believes he is more than just a short-yardage back. "I definitely want to prove that I'm more than a short-yardage guy. I feel like I've displayed some of that. On two of the runs I had this season I exploded downfield. I had a 42-yard touchdown run. It showed that I have deceptive speed. If [teams] watch film on me they will see that."


Sounds like he wants to be a runningback.... not a smart move on his part.... He could be a Pro Bowl FB or a backup runningback.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Ohio State DE Vernon Gholston measured 6'3/266 at the Combine weigh-in.

Scouts reportedly believe Gholston could make an immediate impact like Shawne Merriman and DeMarcus Ware. Gholston could be a right defensive end in a 4-3 or a rush linebacker in a 3-4. He may go as high as No. 2 overall.
Source: Oakland Tribune

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NFL | Omon measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:54:51 -0800

Northwest Missouri State RB Archibong Omon measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-11 and a weight of 228 pounds.


I have my eye on this guy... something tell me he will be a sleeper.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Hester measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:31:12 -0800

Louisiana State FB Jacob Hester measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-10 1/2 and a weight of 226 pounds. He said he plans to stay around 230 pounds because he thinks it will give him the best chance to play a little both running back and fullback.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Hardy measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:17:38 -0800

Indiana University WR James Hardy measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-6 and a weight of 217 pounds. His agent is Eugene Parker. He is planning to workout at the NFL Combine.

[dogfish]

NFL | Omon measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:54:51 -0800

Northwest Missouri State RB Archibong Omon measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-11 and a weight of 228 pounds.


I have my eye on this guy... something tell me he will be a sleeper.

is his name honestly "archibong?"



:lol: :laugh: :pound:




best. . . name. . . . EVER!!




travis henry is so jealous. . . .

[claymore]

NFL | Hardy measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:17:38 -0800

Indiana University WR James Hardy measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-6 and a weight of 217 pounds. His agent is Eugene Parker. He is planning to workout at the NFL Combine.
Jeebus. That has to be a skinny SOB.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Adibi expects to start out at weakside LB
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:58:11 -0800

Virginia Tech LB Xavier Adibi was asked during his NFL Scouting Combine what position he is working at. Adibi said, "I've been playing linebacker. I'll probably start out on the weak side. I can put on weight easy. That's something I can do. Wherever a team needs me I'm willing to play."

[MOtorboat]

NFL | Omon measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:54:51 -0800

Northwest Missouri State RB Archibong Omon measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 5-foot-11 and a weight of 228 pounds.


I have my eye on this guy... something tell me he will be a sleeper.

Isn't his name Xavier?

[lex]

http://fflivewire.com/players/PlayersCombine.asp?OrderBy=+ORDER+BY+LastNAme%2C+F irstName%2C+PosNameShort%2C+Team&PlayerName=&pTeamID=99999999&PosNum=99999999&GO=GO%21

Good link for anyone who wants to see stats on the combine.


Felix Jones did 8 reps of 225.

[shank]

Felix Jones did 8 reps of 225.

oh yeah, he's def one of the top 5 rbs..:rolleyes:

[JONtheBRONCO]

Felix Jones did 8 reps of 225.

LOL

[lex]

oh yeah, he's def one of the top 5 rbs..:rolleyes:


Im not sure it matters THAT much but it kind of looks bad.

[Bronco9798]

Felix Jones did 8 reps of 225.

That OT from Michigan did 37.

[Watchthemiddle]

Felix Jones did 8 reps of 225.

I can do 12...so does that make me a top 10 pick?

I think too much is made of all this kind of stuff.

If I were a GM I would watch game tape. Either you can play or you cant.

I think too much is made of this stuff " his hand placement is bad" .." he doesn't move his hips right" ...."he is too slow"..."not strong enough"...blah blah blah

That is why I feel you find better "players" in the later rounds. They play the game right.

[shank]

I can do 12...so does that make me a top 10 pick?

I think too much is made of all this kind of stuff.

If I were a GM I would watch game tape. Either you can play or you cant.

I think too much is made of this stuff " his hand placement is bad" .." he doesn't move his hips right" ...."he is too slow"..."not strong enough"...blah blah blah

That is why I feel you find better "players" in the later rounds. They play the game right.

i agree with this, i just don't think felix jones is very good personally so this serves as a small slice of justification for me lol

[shank]

i was surprised to see keith rivers weight in at 241!

that makes him a little more attractive to me at 12 if things work out that way.

he said he likes sam the most because he had the most reps there. he is also finishin up his degree which is good.

[dogfish]

jonathon stewart did 30 reps of felix jones. . . .

[Lonestar]

i was surprised to see keith rivers weight in at 241!

that makes him a little more attractive to me at 12 if things work out that way.

he said he likes sam the most because he had the most reps there. he is also finishin up his degree which is good.

but you really do not spend a 12 on a SAM either the top choice are for top Mike or Will LB's. Good LBs can play SAM and we do not have draft choices to waste.. IMO

[shank]

but you really do not spend a 12 on a SAM either the top choice are for top Mike or Will LB's. Good LBs can play SAM and we do not have draft choices to waste.. IMO

i don't think most people see rivers playing sam in the nfl do they? i just thought it was interesting that he said it was his favorite and that he saw the most reps at it at the senior bowl.

my best guess would be that he would play will if we took him, unless we are dead-set on moving dj back to the weakside, in which case i don't think we would take rivers.

i just know that we may become sort of pigeon-holed into taking a lb at 12 if things work out a certain way and didn't like the idea of taking rivers mainly because of his size, so i was glad to see that he has put on weight to become more versatile.

[Lonestar]

i don't think most people see rivers playing sam in the nfl do they? i just thought it was interesting that he said it was his favorite and that he saw the most reps at it at the senior bowl.

my best guess would be that he would play will if we took him, unless we are dead-set on moving dj back to the weakside, in which case i don't think we would take rivers.

i just know that we may become sort of pigeon-holed into taking a lb at 12 if things work out a certain way and didn't like the idea of taking rivers mainly because of his size, so i was glad to see that he has put on weight to become more versatile.


I can live with that.. I do not know anyting about him as far as speed jsut he is bigger than we thought.. tomorrow will tell more..

BTW I was reall impressed with TE #13 today, a semi sleeper who upstaged the big name guys.. He is gonna be load at H back for someone..

[Lonestar]

jonathon stewart did 30 reps of felix jones. . . .



I think it was another stewart, not the guy we like..

[shank]

I can live with that.. I do not know anyting about him as far as speed jsut he is bigger than we thought.. tomorrow will tell more..

BTW I was reall impressed with TE #13 today, a semi sleeper who upstaged the big name guys.. He is gonna be load at H back for someone..

i've heard a lot of people describe rivers as the most athletic linebacker in the draft this year. he has the ability to cover and run with guys but could make the tough plays too, even when he was in the 220s. the fact that he added more weight means to me that he offers more to a team that just a weakside linebacker, but that's still probably where he'll be.

i have only see him play 2 or 3 games, so take what i say for what it's worth lol.:salute:

[Lonestar]

i've heard a lot of people describe rivers as the most athletic linebacker in the draft this year. he has the ability to cover and run with guys but could make the tough plays too, even when he was in the 220s. the fact that he added more weight means to me that he offers more to a team that just a weakside linebacker, but that's still probably where he'll be.

i have only see him play 2 or 3 games, so take what i say for what it's worth lol.:salute:


I personally would never take a LB under 235 again regardless of speed..gols has been a joke since coming back here IMO a total waste of cap space especially when you look at what happened to DJ because of it..

After the top couple will the next ones be available at 42?

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Rivers can play all three positions. A lot of people on the Mane hate him, but he's just the kind of player the Broncos would draft at #12. I see him as more of a WILL, but I think 240's gets him into the size that would allow him to play all of the spots effectively and not lose much speed. I can live with Keith at #12 because he'll start from Day One. I'd like to see us sit and wait on a guy like Wheeler at #42 and go OT at #12, but whatever.

Denver's bound to make us go nuts sometime. This deep is so deep at LB, I'd like to see us wait. We need someone who is a good blitzer, Slowik's scheme demands it.

Wheeler is an option at #42. If we traded back and got a third, Adibi would be an excellent choice, who bulked up and was over 230 and he played about 20 pounds lighter in college. . . if we're looking for a SAM, Crable would be an excellent option; but a friend on the Mane has a family member who was a medical trainer for the Wolverines and apparently Shawn is the biggest ***** on the planet. . .

Just trade down. Get more picks. Reap the benefits.

[shank]

I personally would never take a LB under 235 again regardless of speed..gols has been a joke since coming back here IMO a total waste of cap space especially when you look at what happened to DJ because of it..

After the top couple will the next ones be available at 42?

i feel the same way as you about weight, and that's why i'm glad that as a potential pick of ours at 12 that rivers added weight:salute:

i know that all the guys that will be going around 42 have pretty damned good size.

almost all the guys that i hear mentioned as 2nd rounders for us are at or over 240 lbs. i'm not sure about xavier adibi, but i know ali highsmith, another guy who was in the 220s weighed in with much more bulk. wheeler, henderson, mayo, goff and others all have size that fits our (mine and yours jr) desire to avoid gold-esque players.

[Scarface]

oh yeah, he's def one of the top 5 rbs..:rolleyes:

Bench press is so important for rbs.:rolleyes:

[shank]

Rivers can play all three positions. A lot of people on the Mane hate him, but he's just the kind of player the Broncos would draft at #12. I see him as more of a WILL, but I think 240's gets him into the size that would allow him to play all of the spots effectively and not lose much speed. I can live with Keith at #12 because he'll start from Day One. I'd like to see us sit and wait on a guy like Wheeler at #42 and go OT at #12, but whatever.

Denver's bound to make us go nuts sometime.

this is exactly what i'm thinking at this point (though as i've said in many a-thread i'd like to trade down in the 1st and get an OT like williams if at all possible)

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Bench press is so important for rbs.:rolleyes:

Well, it is a little concerning to see him putting up that few of reps. I used to be able to do 5 reps of 225 back in the day; and for the past two years I've barely lifted so about 15 at my own weight is all I can do. He's still a quality prospect, but it doesn't help him to do so bad.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

this is exactly what i'm thinking at this point (though as i've said in many a-thread i'd like to trade down in the 1st and get an OT like williams if at all possible)

Denver has two nice selections, it'd be hard for them to mess it up -- but I won't put anything past them. They've improved, but *sigh*. . .

I was looking at the roster again today and seeing all the "Jim Bates" guys who are second or third on the depth chart.

It's sickening. These are guys he had come here. . . but won't be here after it's all said and done.

These are guys like Winborn, Beck, Carrington, Mallard, Peterson and Cargile who would likely not even have the chance to be on another roster. That's six players who Bates liked and wanted to keep on our roster, who are virtually mean nothing to us now anymore. I don't expect anyone but Winborn out of those six to be back next year.

How bad does it suck to know we went out of our way to dump players to get guys who are non scheme fits anymore? Now we have to start all over. . . PATHETIC.

[shank]

Bench press is so important for rbs.:rolleyes:

do me a favor and read my other post? it was somewhat sarcastic and i cleared that up.

but still, overall strength IS pretty important for RBs and when you see qbs like cutler and quinn putting up 225 in the mid 20s.

it makes an even bigger difference when the other results look like this:


Jerome Felton - 30
Carl Stewart - 30
Jonathan Stewart - 28
Rashard Mendenhall - 26
Justin Forsett - 26
Owen Schmitt - 26
Peyton Hillis - 26
Cory Boyd - 25
Thomas Brown - 25
Benjarvus Green-Ellis - 24
Mike Hart - 23
Ray Rice - 23
Jacob Hester - 23
Matt Forte - 23
Kregg Lumpkin - 22
Marcus Thomas - 21
Ryan Torain - 21
Tashard Choice - 20

[Scarface]

Rbs need strength in their legs. Bench press means very little for a rb. It's like a 40 time for a punter. Who cares.

[shank]

These are guys like Winborn, Beck, Carrington, Mallard, Peterson and Cargile who would likely not even have the chance to be on another roster. That's six players who Bates liked and wanted to keep on our roster, who are virtually mean nothing to us now anymore. I don't expect anyone but Winborn out of those six to be back next year.

i agree that it sucks. i think beck could be back too as he played very well on special teams. i pray that mallard and peterson are not on our team (even though towards the end of the season they seemed to be putting forth more effort that a lot of our other players)...

let's look at the bate's players as a good thing; our team needs some changes, and this makes it easier to cut many guys loose and bring in a wave of new talent:D

:beer: <two glasses half full lol

[shank]

Rbs need strength in their legs. Bench press means very little for a rb. It's like a 40 time for a punter. Who cares.

on a level playing field it shows that he is inferior in upper body strength (which is indicative of all-around strength with no leg exercise at the combine, is very important for pass-blocking, conditioning, and can play a role in ball security).

All the runningbacks did the same test on a level playing field and he ended up at the bottom. i don't see how that's NOT significant.

[JONtheBRONCO]

Rbs need strength in their legs. Bench press means very little for a rb. It's like a 40 time for a punter. Who cares.

Pass protection?

[Scarface]

Pass protection?

Leverage and reading the defense.

[slim]

The combine "tests" are a joke...measurables are a joke. You can either play the game or you can't. Let me see what a guy looks like with the pads on, between the lines. That's all I care about.

[shank]

Leverage and reading the defense.

lol. if all it took was technique and smarts the league would look a lot different scarface.

would you discount a guy running the slowest 3-cone because there aren't cones on the field when they play the game?

[tubby]

JON how many times can you do 225?

[Lonestar]

The combine "tests" are a joke...measurables are a joke. You can either play the game or you can't. Let me see what a guy looks like with the pads on, between the lines. That's all I care about.

but since you can't measure all of that this is just a yardstick..

We would not want a 6 flat LB would we?

Nor a Skill guy that has a vertical of 12 or the IQ test of 3.

The combine allows the coaches to see these guys in some cases for the first time.. the scouts have seen them all year and have a good idea what they can and can not do. now the two coaches and scouts have a common link and can set down and talk with each other. about how they are going to address there needs..

[slim]

JON how many times can you do 225?

Who is JON?

BTW...is 225 is slang for beer, I can do about 24. :beer:

[slim]

but since you can't measure all of that this is just a yardstick..

We would not want a 6 flat LB would we?

Nor a Skill guy that has a vertical of 12 or the IQ test of 3.

The combine allows the coaches to see these guys in some cases for the first time.. the scouts have seen them all year and have a good idea what they can and can not do. now the two coaches and scouts have a common link and can set down and talk with each other. about how they are going to address there needs..

Maybe...I'm just saying if I was a coach I wouldn't give two rips about 40 times or the bench press. They have plenty of film on these players. That should be the tool they utilize...at least I would.

[tubby]

Who is JON?

BTW...is 225 is slang for beer, I can do about 24. :beer:

JONtheBRONCO you retard. He is frickin huge and could probably even beat you in a drinking contest.

[slim]

JONtheBRONCO you retard. He is frickin huge and could probably even beat you in a drinking contest.

Did/does he play ball?

Unless he has a liver made of stone (and a stomach to match)...he has no chance in a drinking contest. Just sayin'

[tubby]

Did/does he play ball?

I think he just kicks ass and takes names.

Hopefully he tells us how many times he can do 225 :strongy:

Just sit back and don't ask too many questions.

[Lonestar]

Maybe...I'm just saying if I was a coach I wouldn't give two rips about 40 times or the bench press. They have plenty of film on these players. That should be the tool they utilize...at least I would.

film is nice but seeing up close and comfortable is good for the coaches to see. also can't talk to a film clip either..

but then again most of these guys are not mensa canidiates either..

[BOSSHOGG30]

I can do 12...so does that make me a top 10 pick?

I think too much is made of all this kind of stuff.

If I were a GM I would watch game tape. Either you can play or you cant.

I think too much is made of this stuff " his hand placement is bad" .." he doesn't move his hips right" ...."he is too slow"..."not strong enough"...blah blah blah

That is why I feel you find better "players" in the later rounds. They play the game right.

It doesn't mean much, but you could look at it as a measurement on how hard he trains and prepares. You have to think that he has been in the weight room for 4 years in high school and 3 to 4 years in college. If you can't to 8 reps of 225 and you are a runningback, that is pretty bad.

[BOSSHOGG30]

You would like to see every guy put up at least a decent # of reps on the bench press. It is a test of strength and for you that say it isn't important for a runningback.... well that is stupid. Punters and kickers don't need to have good numbers on the bench, but every other position does. Just like speed is important, strength is just as important.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Brady Quinn 27
Jay Culter 24


Felix Jones 8

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | Connor measures in at NFL Combine
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:55:25 -0800

Penn State LB Dan Connor measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-2 3/4 and a weight of 231 pounds. His agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Connor said he heard from coaches that he would be playing both inside and outside linebacker, depending on the scheme. Connor added, "With a 3-4, obviously you want two inside spots. A 4-3, outside or in. I feel comfortable with both, and feel I can do both pretty well."

[BOSSHOGG30]

Vanderbilt's Chris Williams ran a 5.07 at the NFL Scouting Combine.

He showed good feet in the position drills too. He's a bit of a finesse tackle, but should get taken somewhere in the middle of the first round.

[BOSSHOGG30]

NFL | K. Phillips measures in at NFL Combine
Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:50:52 -0800

University of Miami (Fla.) FS Kenny Phillips measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-2 and a weight of 212 pounds.

[BOSSHOGG30]

The combine is a great thing... not really for the numbers so much, but you get an idea on how healthy a guy is, how well he prepares, and something to measure the guy on besides game film. Look at Maurice Clarett... he did horrible, most teams were very cautious after he ran a 4.8 forty. If he didn't run he probably would of went higher. You can't go just on game tape because Clarett was amazing in college.

[JONtheBRONCO]

JON how many times can you do 225?

Tubby, 31.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Appalachian State WR Dexter Jackson ran a 4.27 forty at the NFL Combine.

It's faster than last year's top time, a 4.28 posted by Yamon Figurs. Jackson never caught more than 33 passes in a season at Appy State, but brings enough return upside that he could easily sneak into the draft's first day.

[JONtheBRONCO]

Appalachian State WR Dexter Jackson ran a 4.27 forty at the NFL Combine.

It's faster than last year's top time, a 4.28 posted by Yamon Figurs. Jackson never caught more than 33 passes in a season at Appy State, but brings enough return upside that he could easily sneak into the draft's first day.

wow

[BOSSHOGG30]

WR 40 times

Donnie Avery: 4.40
Earl Bennett: 4.52
Adarius Bowman: 4.69
Dorien Bryant: 4.53
Andre Caldwell: 4.31
Harry Douglas: 4.49
Will Franklin: 4.32
D.J. Hall: 4.55
James Hardy: 4.47
Lavelle Hawkins: 4.56
DeShaun Jackson: 4.31
Dexter Jackson: 4.27

[lex]

WR 40 times

Donnie Avery: 4.40
Earl Bennett: 4.52
Adarius Bowman: 4.69
Dorien Bryant: 4.53
Andre Caldwell: 4.31
Harry Douglas: 4.49
Will Franklin: 4.32
D.J. Hall: 4.55
James Hardy: 4.47
Lavelle Hawkins: 4.56
DeShaun Jackson: 4.31
Dexter Jackson: 4.27

Dexter Jackson just improved his stock. He had already impressed people at the East-West game and did OK at the SB when arriving on short notice.

Bowmans stock is sliding. He had a problem holding onto the ball at the senior bowl now he runs a 4.7.

Dorien Bryants really needed a better time than that considering how he plays.

Lavelle Hawkins may have made himself a bargain by not running a blazing time at the 40. The guy catches everything and seems to play faster than his 40 time. The bad time may make him available in the 3rd or 4th.

Will Franklin in addition to running fast has also looked good catching the ball.

Thats a terrific time for James Hardy considering how tall he is.

[lex]

You would like to see every guy put up at least a decent # of reps on the bench press. It is a test of strength and for you that say it isn't important for a runningback.... well that is stupid. Punters and kickers don't need to have good numbers on the bench, but every other position does. Just like speed is important, strength is just as important.

Wow, I have a feeling if Jon Stewart had the biggest fist size, youd be on here proclaiming that its somehow important to have a big fist and calling people stupid for dismissing it.

The power clean is more important. Thats strength that translates to explosiveness.

[shank]

Wow, I have a feeling if Jon Stewart had the biggest fist size, youd be on here proclaiming that its somehow important to have a big fist and calling people stupid for dismissing it.

The power clean is more important. Thats strength that translates to explosiveness.

of course a leg strength test would be important,but they don't do one! sure there would be better tests for runningbacks, but that doesn't mean bench isn't important.

i'll say it again; jones was at the very BOTTOM of the list of runningbacks when it comes to bench press. how can you say that doesn't tell you something?

and if you're in complete denial that upper body strength translates to any kind of increased performance, then at least it tells you that every other runningback at the combine is working harder than felix on their upper body strength or are naturally more gifted in strength.

[BOSSHOGG30]

More 40 times:

Devin Thomas: 4.32
Arman Shields: 4.38
Limas Sweed: 4.46
Paul Hubbard: 4.46
Jerome Simpson: 4.47
Darius Reynaud: 4.47
Jordy Nelson: 4.51
Mario Manningham: 4.59
Mario Urrutia: 4.58

[lex]

of course a leg strength test would be important,but they don't do one! sure there would be better tests for runningbacks, but that doesn't mean bench isn't important.

i'll say it again; jones was at the very BOTTOM of the list of runningbacks when it comes to bench press. how can you say that doesn't tell you something?

and if you're in complete denial that upper body strength translates to any kind of increased performance, then at least it tells you that every other runningback at the combine is working harder than felix on their upper body strength or are naturally more gifted in strength.

I already said I dont know how important it is...and neither does anyone else. Its hard to quantify. I think the point made about dedication and being prepared is a valid one. But again, show me where I said strength wasnt important...furthermore, show me where I attempted to quantify how important it is in a blanket, across-the-board way.

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I already said I dont know how important it is...and neither does anyone else. Its hard to quantify. I think the point made about dedication and being prepared is a valid one. But again, show me where I said strength wasnt important...furthermore, show me where I attempted to quantify how important it is in a blanket, across-the-board way.

Lex did you ever play football? You rub off as one of those guys who pretend to know everything, but actually know nothing. I think I might have to use my ignore option for the first time ever.

[lex]

More 40 times:

Devin Thomas: 4.32
Arman Shields: 4.38
Limas Sweed: 4.46
Paul Hubbard: 4.46
Jerome Simpson: 4.47
Darius Reynaud: 4.47
Jordy Nelson: 4.51
Mario Manningham: 4.59
Mario Urrutia: 4.58

And Manningham followed it up with a 4.62. He just killed his stock although from watching it, he seemed to be really struggling with the starting position they like them to assume...lots of choppy steps and false starts. I get the impression he wasnt entirely prepared for this. It looks like he might be sliding but could be a good value for that reason considering his 40 time might be slightly misleading since it might have been due to his struggles with the starting position.

[lex]

Wow, Reynaud ran 4.47 and followed it up with a 4.67. Thats a huge disparity.

[shank]

I already said I dont know how important it is...and neither does anyone else. Its hard to quantify. I think the point made about dedication and being prepared is a valid one. But again, show me where I said strength wasnt important...furthermore, show me where I attempted to quantify how important it is in a blanket, across-the-board way.

you accused boss of arguing something stupid (fist size) just to support a player he likes.

i agree with boss that to say a rb doing 8 reps doesn't matter IS stupid.

(i wasn't attacking you, and didn't see you argue against the importance, i was attacking your attack of boss :salute:)

[lex]

Lex did you ever play football? You rub off as one of those guys who pretend to know everything, but actually know nothing. I think I might have to use my ignore option for the first time ever.

Indeed I did play football. DB and RB. If you feel compelled to use ignore, feel free. Youre not breaking my heart. Youve been slobbering all over Stewart and its perfectly transparent. Its obvious that every event Stewart does well in, youre going to take issue if someone somehow dismisses it.

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you accused boss of arguing something stupid (fist size) just to support a player he likes.

i agree with boss that to say a rb doing 8 reps doesn't matter IS stupid.

(i wasn't attacking you, and didn't see you argue against the importance, i was attacking your attack of boss :salute:)

thanks shaw... i have lex on ignore now... he seems to only post when he can argue over pointless and stupid things... he never has any facts to support his post yet if you provide facts to back up your arguement it doesn't hold any weight. He just keeps on yaking. I'm already enjoying the ignore feature of this site.

[lex]

you accused boss of arguing something stupid (fist size) just to support a player he likes.

i agree with boss that to say a rb doing 8 reps doesn't matter IS stupid.

(i wasn't attacking you, and didn't see you argue against the importance, i was attacking your attack of boss :salute:)

See post 163. Again, Im not saying the bench is hugely important for a running back and Im not saying it has no value at all. But when Boss' guy does well at the bench he argues like its hugely important when in reality its tough to know how important it is. Granted, its better to be strong than weak but its not unheard of for RBs who werent dedicated in the weight room to do well.

[slim]

Tubby, 31.

Can you play DT?

[shank]

See post 163. Again, Im not saying the bench is hugely important for a running back and Im not saying it has no value at all. But when Boss' guy does well at the bench he argues like its hugely important when in reality its tough to know how important it is. Granted, its better to be strong than weak but its not unheard of for RBs who werent dedicated in the weight room to do well.

and i defended him because i agree with him and he has a valid point. i do not think he was only arguing the issue because stewart did well. i already posted this, and as you can see, a majority of the RBs did well in the bench press, especially the 'other' top rated guys. when all the other top backs are putting up well over double the reps of felix jones, it says a lot more about felix jones than it does about jonathan stewart.


Jerome Felton - 30
Carl Stewart - 30
Jonathan Stewart - 28
Rashard Mendenhall - 26
Justin Forsett - 26
Owen Schmitt - 26
Peyton Hillis - 26
Cory Boyd - 25
Thomas Brown - 25
Benjarvus Green-Ellis - 24
Mike Hart - 23
Ray Rice - 23
Jacob Hester - 23
Matt Forte - 23
Kregg Lumpkin - 22
Marcus Thomas - 21
Ryan Torain - 21
Tashard Choice - 20

[tubby]

Does any one know if Albert Young and Amir Pinnix were invited to the combine?

[shank]

Does any one know if Albert Young and Amir Pinnix were invited to the combine?

according to nfl.com neither are participating.

[shank]

eddie royal is looking very good. i think mayock said he may be propelling himself into the 2nd round... do you buy it?

[lex]

eddie royal is looking very good. i think mayock said he may be propelling himself into the 2nd round... do you buy it?


No.

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Updating a previous item, Florida DE Derrick Harvey measured 6'5/271 at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

This is a little more like it. A previous report had indicated Harvey was 291 pounds. He could still shed some pounds in training camp and kick to outside linebacker if drafted by a 3-4 club.
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

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RB Vert Jump

FB Carl Stewart: 39
Jonathan Stewart: 36.5
Thomas Brown: 36
Chris Johnson: 35
Tashard Choice: 34
Jalen Parmele: 34
Ryan Torain: 34
Cory Boyd: 33.5
Felix Jones: 33.5
Rashard Mendenhall: 33.5
Steve Slaton: 33.5
Jehuu Caulrick: 33
Matt Forte: 33
Darren McFadden: 33

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I'm really impressed with Royal and espically Devin Thomas at the wideout position.

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NFL | J. Adams measures in at NFL Combine
Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:05:59 -0800

University of Michigan S Jamar Adams measured in at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine with a height of 6-foot-2 and a weight of 212 pounds.

[lex]

The running backs are about to run.

[MOtorboat]

Charles just ran a 4.36 and had a bad start...dude is fast.

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Anthony Alridge ran a 4.36 and so did Jamaal Charles

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Choice 4.54

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Felton will be one hell of a full back in the NFL

[lex]

Caulcrick ran a 4.7, FYI.

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Matt Forte: 4.51

[lex]

Forte, 4.51

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Mike Hart: 4.67

[lex]

Hart, 4.67

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Felix Jones: 4.44

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Chris Johnson: 4.29

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Mcfadden: 4.27

[MOtorboat]

Mcfadden: 4.27

Whoa...that's a great time...

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Mendenhall: 4.43

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(Sleeper) Omon: 4.59

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Ray Rice: 4.44

[shank]

Whoa...that's a great time...

i know, i didn't expect him to be sub-4.3. why's he gotta work against us so hard? doesn't he know that he's supposed to drop to 12 so we can trade back?

he's selfish :D

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Slaton: 4.44

[lex]

Like I said, if McFadden slides to 12, you take him and dont look back. 4.27 is approaching the stuff of legend...its Bo Jackson territory.

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Kevin Smith: 4.43

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Jonathan Stewart: 4.44

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Torain: 4.54

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Yvenson Benard: 4.83

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Owen Schmitt: 4.7

[shank]

wr simpson just broad jumped 11'4"!


stewarts time is a big deal.

[dogfish]

Appalachian State WR Dexter Jackson ran a 4.27 forty at the NFL Combine.

It's faster than last year's top time, a 4.28 posted by Yamon Figurs. Jackson never caught more than 33 passes in a season at Appy State, but brings enough return upside that he could easily sneak into the draft's first day.


and people say desean jackson would be a solid pick at #12 because he's explosive. . . . :rolleyes:



interesting stuff here-- looks like the RBs are outrunning most of the WRs. . .


looks like sweed solidified a good spot for himself. . . bowman is sinking like a stone. . . . 4.51 is a solid time for nelson. . . .

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FB Peyton Hillis: 4.58

[underrated29]

I am glad everyone is starting to see how good my boy Devin thomas is...

OK i am 100% sold that we are going to take stewart with the number 1. And it was close to my old sig... BUt i will put it in my thread so as not to hijak this one.

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Jamaal Charles 2nd attempt: 4.39

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Choice's 2nd attempt: 4.52

[atwater27]

Mendenhall's and Stewart's times are much more impressive than McFadden.

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Forte's 2nd attempt: 4.55

[MOtorboat]

Mendenhall's and Stewart's times are much more impressive than McFadden.

Maybe, but if he runs sub 4.3 on a second attempt, that's serious speed.

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Mike Hart's 2nd attempt: 4.69

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Chad Simpson: 4.38

[shank]

Mendenhall's and Stewart's times are much more impressive than McFadden.

i wouldn't go that far. mcfadden is less than 10 lbs lighter than mendenhall and ran far faster. i would say that stewart's time is much more impressive than mendenhall's though as, the weight disparity bewtween the two is larger than the difference between mendenhall and mcfadden.

mcfadden's time is very impressive. he ran the same time as the fastest wideout.

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Felix Jones 2nd attempt: 4.47

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Those are some amazing times.

Hardy is probably a first rounder now after running that. People thought he was a 4.55 guy at best, probably 4.6 and he killed it!

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McFadden's 2nd attempt: 4.33

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Here's a site that has everything listed for those who have worked out so far. . . most numbers. (http://fflivewire.com/players/PlayersCombine.asp?OrderBy=+ORDER+BY+LastNAme%2C+F irstName%2C+PosNameShort%2C+Team&PlayerName=&pTeamID=99999999&PosNum=1)

Everything in one place. :D

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Mendenhall 2nd attempt: 4.37

[lex]

i wouldn't go that far. mcfadden is less than 10 lbs lighter than mendenhall and ran far faster. i would say that stewart's time is much more impressive than mendenhall's though as, the weight disparity bewtween the two is larger than the difference between mendenhall and mcfadden.

mcfadden's time is very impressive. he ran the same time as the fastest wideout.

Mendenhall, 4.37

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(sleeper) Omon 2nd attempt: 4.59

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Owen Schmitt 2nd attempt: 4.75

[atwater27]

i wouldn't go that far. mcfadden is less than 10 lbs lighter than mendenhall and ran far faster. i would say that stewart's time is much more impressive than mendenhall's though as, the weight disparity bewtween the two is larger than the difference between mendenhall and mcfadden.

mcfadden's time is very impressive. he ran the same time as the fastest wideout.

Yeah, but power backs with speed are more valuable than finesse backs with speed.
I would take a Steven Jackson over a Reggie Bush anyday.

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Chad Simpson's 2nd attempt: 4.37

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Slaton's 2nd attempt: 4.45

[dogfish]

jeebus, what a group of running backs! :shocked:



i am gonna be bummed if we don't grab one of these guys. . . .

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Kevin Smith's 2nd attempt: 4.56

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Jonathan Stewart's 2nd attempt: 4.49

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Maybe now people will see why I say Mendenhall or Stewart would be the best value for the #12 overall pick.

[shank]

Mendenhall, 4.37

i think this time puts them all kind of at the same level as far as size-speed ratio. kinda evened everything out.


Yeah, but power backs with speed are more valuable than finesse backs with speed.
I would take a Steven Jackson over a Reggie Bush anyday.

i agree, but i wouldn't say from an athletic standpoint that their times were more impressive, but from what we want in a runningback here in denver, i too would rather have mendenhall or stewart, especially with times like those:salute:

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Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston bench pressed 225 37 times at the Combine.

Equaling Jake Long's mark, which was the most among offensive linemen. Long is 6'7/313, while Gholston is 6'3/266. Gholston has yet to run his 40.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

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Vanderbilt WR Earl Bennett ran an official 4.48 forty at the Combine.

This is a solid time for Bennett, an early entrant but still the SEC's all-time leading receiver. He intends to be a slot receiver in the pros, but has the size at 5'11/209 and speed to play outside.

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Boise State OT Ryan Clady suffered a pectorals injury while doing the bench press at the NFL Combine.
Source: Idaho Statesman

[dogfish]

Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston bench pressed 225 37 times at the Combine.

Equaling Jake Long's mark, which was the most among offensive linemen. Long is 6'7/313, while Gholston is 6'3/266. Gholston has yet to run his 40.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

holy shit! i've been telling people for years that dude is a freak-- for a speed-rushing DE, that is just sick. . . .

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Illinois RB Rashard Mendenhall timed 4.37 and 4.43 in the NFL Combine's forty-yard dash.

Outstanding times for Mendenhall, who is apparently ranked as the top running back on some teams' draft boards. Mendenhall is a tackle breaker, so showing he has home run speed as well certainly can't hurt.

Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart ran an unofficial 4.44 and 4.49 forty at the Combine.

For a 235-pound pure power back, this is highly impressive. Stewart projects as a surefire first-round pick. Arizona seems like a fine fit at No. 16.
Related: Cardinals

[atwater27]

Maybe now people will see why I say Mendenhall or Stewart would be the best value for the #12 overall pick.

We don't need a running back. It is near the bottom of our team needs.

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Sederick Ellis did 34 reps
Kentan Balmer did 33 reps

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Quentin Groves: 30 reps
Shawn Crable: 29 reps

[shank]

Those are some amazing times.

Hardy is probably a first rounder now after running that. People thought he was a 4.55 guy at best, probably 4.6 and he killed it!

yeah, that's amazing. if we can acquire an extra pick, i don't think i'd be upset if we picked this guy up. can you imagine 6'4" 4.4 bm lined up across from 6'6" 4.4 hardy? sheesh.


Ohio State DE/OLB Vernon Gholston bench pressed 225 37 times at the Combine.

Equaling Jake Long's mark, which was the most among offensive linemen. Long is 6'7/313, while Gholston is 6'3/266. Gholston has yet to run his 40.
Source: draftheadquarters.com

that's ridiculous. i had no idea he had that kind of strength. very impressive.

[dogfish]

that's ridiculous. i had no idea he had that kind of strength. very impressive.


by the time boss is done here today, he's going to have that kind of strength in his posting hand-- unless it falls off. . . . :laugh:

[atwater27]

by the time boss is done here today, he's going to have that kind of strength in his posting hand-- unless it falls off. . . . :laugh:

Or Carpel Tunnel. I am just taking it easy, watching the internet stream of NFL network combines live.

[dogfish]

Or Carpel Tunnel. I am just taking it easy, watching the internet stream of NFL network combines live.

yea, i set the DVR to record the positional drills, but it's nice and relaxing sitting here letting boss do all the work. . . . thanks boss!

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USC LB Keith Rivers sprained his ankle working out prior to the Combine and decided to skip the pre-draft event.

Rivers, who has been slotted by draftniks as high as No. 10 overall to the Saints, will likely miss a good chunk of the USC Pro Day on April 2. He still projects as a first-round pick and a weak-side linebacker in the NFL.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

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Offical times for RB's

Chris Johnson: 4.24
Darren Mcfadden: 4.33
Anthony Aldridge: 4.36
Jamaal Charles: 4.38
Chad Simpson: 4.42
Rashard Mendenhall: 4.45
Matt Forte: 4.46
Jalen Parmele: 4.47
Felix Jones: 4.47
Jonathan Stewart: 4.48

[shank]

Offical times for RB's

Chris Johnson: 4.24
Darren Mcfadden: 4.33
Anthony Aldridge: 4.36
Jamaal Charles: 4.38
Chad Simpson: 4.42
Rashard Mendenhall: 4.45
Matt Forte: 4.46
Jalen Parmele: 4.47
Felix Jones: 4.47
Jonathan Stewart: 4.48


that's insane.

[Tned]

Mcfadden: 4.27

That's pretty quick. I have also seen 4.33. Were those two different runs?

I've been out of touch for the last 4 or 5 days, so this might have already been discussed.

[lex]

That's pretty quick. I have also seen 4.33. Were those two different runs?

I've been out of touch for the last 4 or 5 days, so this might have already been discussed.


No, they tweaked his initialy run of 4.27 to make it 4.33. He also ran a 4.33 on his 2nd run too however. To be honest, since last year Ive always been somewhat skeptical of the tweaking. Last year, Chris Henry ran a 4.33 on TV and Peterson ran in the low 4.4s. By the end of the day both times were tweaked just so they were tied, which I thought was a little convenient. Its hardly an exact science. There are actually teams who go by different times.

[fcspikeit]

The combine is a great thing... not really for the numbers so much, but you get an idea on how healthy a guy is, how well he prepares, and something to measure the guy on besides game film. Look at Maurice Clarett... he did horrible, most teams were very cautious after he ran a 4.8 forty. If he didn't run he probably would of went higher. You can't go just on game tape because Clarett was amazing in college.


Not just that but as one scout put it,

Most the coaches haven't seen much of these players. Of course the scouts have. The combine gives the coaches a chance to see the players for the first time. If they like someone they can look over the game film. So the combine is a great way to get noticed by the coaches.

Think about it. There is no way the coaches could look at the film of every player coming out. With the combine it helps narrow the play9ing field a bit. If a players the scouts were scouting looks weak in a certain area like the bench press the coaches and scouts can now go back and look at the players film to see if it showed up on the field. They might have over looked something like that if it hadn't been pointed out by the test at the combine.

I don't believe the tests at the combine are the end of all things concerning the players but they are a tool to help you sort through the best players at any position.

If one players shows he is consistently behind the other players at the same position why would you take him over someone else who has the same type highlight reels and beat him in every test at the combine?

[fcspikeit]

More 40 times:

Devin Thomas: 4.32
Arman Shields: 4.38
Limas Sweed: 4.46
Paul Hubbard: 4.46
Jerome Simpson: 4.47
Darius Reynaud: 4.47
Jordy Nelson: 4.51
Mario Manningham: 4.59
Mario Urrutia: 4.58

I didn't think Jordy Nelson would put up that fast a time.. I really like him, after his Senior bowl this time will have to help his draft stock. I was hoping we could steal him with a late pick. With his hands and this time where do you now think he will go Boss? I was hoping we could get him in the 5th. Now he might have climbed as high as the 3rd what do you think?

[Tned]

No, they tweaked his initialy run of 4.27 to make it 4.33. He also ran a 4.33 on his 2nd run too however. To be honest, since last year Ive always been somewhat skeptical of the tweaking. Last year, Chris Henry ran a 4.33 on TV and Peterson ran in the low 4.4s. By the end of the day both times were tweaked just so they were tied, which I thought was a little convenient. Its hardly an exact science. There are actually teams who go by different times.

Thanks. I've nevery really followed the comibines much, so I am not real familiar with the procedures.

[dogfish]

interesting snippet from PFT-- it's not directly about the combine, but close enough, and it really doesn't need a seperate thread. . . .


RED FLAGS FOR DORSEY

During the 2007 football season, plenty of folks were presuming that LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey could be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

As it now stands, Dorsey might be this year's Alan Branch.

According to Howard Balzer of the Sports Xchange, NFL scouts have lingering concerns about a stress fracture that Dorsey suffered during the 2006 season. Per Balzer, Dorsey was sent to an Indianapolis hospital for further testing after undergoing a physical at the Scouting Combine.

Dorsey had not planned to work out at the Combine. He said that he'd stopped working out due to the recent death of his grandmother.

A year ago, Dorsey considered entering the draft but recognized that the leg injury could hold him back.


_________________________________________________



if he played with it all year and performed the way he did, let teams pass on him-- i'll take him every day and about five times on sunday. . . .

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DL bench rep results:

Vernon Gholston: 37
Trevor Law: 35
Sedrick Ellis: 34
Nick Hayden: 34
Balmer: 33
Frank Okam: 32
Derrick Harvey: 31
Lawerence Jackson: 31
Dre Moore: 31